IRC log for #koha, 2010-06-29

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02:21 jloucks Hello.
02:52 pianohack hi jloucks
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03:05 jloucks ola.
03:05 jloucks hola.
03:05 jloucks Got my system up... Anyone using the "upcoming books" feature--and how hard is it to set up?
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03:29 Amit heya chris
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04:11 chris "The problem is that Oracle is naturally trying to optimise its acquisition of Sun for its own shareholders, but seems to have forgotten that there are other stakeholders too: the larger open source communities that have formed around the code. That may make sense in the short term, but is undoubtedly fatal in the long term: free software cannot continue to grow and thrive without an engaged community."
04:11 chris why does that sound familiar
04:13 pianohack bye all. Buying an asus u30jc-a1 (9.5 hr battery life ftw)
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04:17 larsw chris, because it happens almost every time company A develops a successful free software project and then gets bought?
04:21 chris that'll be it
04:59 chris looks like pianohack chose a good machine
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05:00 chris hi cait
05:00 cait hi chris
05:00 cait feeling better?
05:01 chris yeah, even ate something this afternoon
05:04 robin gonna be back at work tomorrow? Enquiring minds...:)
05:07 chris yeah, thats the plan
05:10 * robin checks out all of debian perl as part of taking over the koha stuff. This may take a while :)
05:12 chris heh
05:15 larsw robin, why do you need all of pkg-perl? or did I misunderstand?
05:15 robin larsw: I was just following the instructions :)
05:15 robin I guess I could check out the subtrees I want...
05:16 larsw yeah, I think that's going to be much better for you :)
05:16 larsw iirc it might save you around 8 hours of checkout time :)
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05:58 jloucks bed time. Later people.
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07:40 chris evening all
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08:21 kf hi #koha
08:22 chris hi kf
08:23 kf hi chris
08:35 hdl hi chris
08:35 hdl hi kf
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11:03 kf hi hdl ;)
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11:45 druthb good day, #koha!
11:46 chris hi druthb
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11:51 * druthb waves to nengard
11:52 druthb @eightball will this 2.2.x upgrade I'm working on ever, ever get finished?
11:52 munin druthb: Naturally.
11:52 druthb good.
11:53 jwagner What's this? You change your handle & suddenly munin likes you???
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11:54 druthb Didn't say that.
11:54 druthb @roulette
11:54 munin druthb: *click*
11:54 druthb @roulette
11:54 munin druthb: *click*
11:54 druthb @roulette
11:54 druthb was kicked by munin: BANG!
11:55 * munin reloads and spins the chambers.
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11:55 druthb See?
11:55 jwagner You had to work at it, though....
11:55 druthb My disguise threw munin off a little.
11:55 druthb (The one I used to wear, and don't any more.)
11:56 * nengard tries to wave back, but her arm is so tired she can't raise it ...
11:56 nengard ALA is exhausting!!
11:58 druthb nengard++ #for sharing her birthday muffin, and a wonderful time at lunch Sunday.
11:58 nengard druthb++ for having lunch with me on my birthday :)
11:58 nengard and lots of other pluses from that day too :)
11:59 druthb @karma
11:59 munin druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (149), "gmcharlt" (149), and "owen" (117).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-57), "failed" (-40), and "-" (-25).  You (druthb) are ranked 153 out of 890.
11:59 druthb @karma druthb
11:59 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
11:59 druthb Yay!  my first point!
12:00 jwagner See?  I _told_ you you'd never catch up to me now!!!
12:01 druthb Awwww
12:01 jwagner heh heh heh
12:02 jwagner If I weren't so exhausted from ALA, I'd do a victory dance....
12:02 * jwagner thinks that exhibit hall was TOO BIG
12:02 * druthb whispers something into munin's ear, then giggles, and returns to her seat.
12:02 druthb @karma druthb
12:02 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 33 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 33.
12:03 jwagner That's cheating!
12:03 gmcharlt no, it's perfectly fair ;)
12:03 gmcharlt @karma jdavidb
12:03 munin gmcharlt: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0.
12:03 jwagner Harrumph!
12:03 * druthb cackles maniacally.
12:04 * jwagner mutters, Just You Wait....
12:04 druthb gmcharlt++ # thank you very much, sir
12:04 gmcharlt :)
12:04 gmcharlt jwagner++ # harrumphing
12:05 druthb @karma jwagner
12:05 munin druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 35 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 35.
12:05 druthb I got the harrumph in stereo--got it here, and could hear her down the hall.
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12:06 Genji hiya all.. anyone here who knows about templates?
12:07 druthb Depends...I know some of them, Genji.  I keep certain ones filed under "self-induced pain and suffering."
12:08 Genji im trying to work out why a tmpl_include, isn't.
12:09 druthb Can you tmpl_include another file in the same directory?  I've had path problems show up that way; couldn't include *anything* from that dir, 'cuz the path was not set up right somehow.
12:09 druthb (for a specific file, also worth checking protections to make sure the web server can see 'em.)
12:11 Genji not permissions. i just chowned the koha directory to the webserver user.
12:11 * druthb checks that off her list.
12:22 chris awesome, confirmation from nigeria
12:23 chris just one last speaker confirmation outstanding
12:27 chris speakers confirmed from nigeria, taiwan, malaysia, pakistan, us, uk, france, australia and nz
12:30 kfmeeting @wunder Konstanz
12:30 munin kfmeeting: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.1�C (2:38 PM CEST on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady).
12:30 * druthb waves to kfmeeting.
12:30 kfmeeting 28? munin must be kidding
12:30 druthb @wunder 20817
12:31 munin druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 24.0�C (8:39 AM EDT on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising).
12:31 kfmeeting or its the 10 computers in those room
12:31 * kfmeeting smiles and waves back to druthb
12:31 chris @wunder wellington, nz
12:31 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (12:00 AM NZST on June 30, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
12:31 chris right, time for sleep i think
12:31 chris night all
12:31 kfmeeting night chris
12:32 druthb Cool and damp in Wellington, hot and sweaty in DC, and wicked hot and dry in Konstanz.
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12:32 collum @wunder 41011
12:32 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 23.4�C (8:40 AM EDT on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
12:34 kfmeeting ok, back to next training session...
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12:34 druthb :)
12:34 * collum will one day learn that 23.4 C is good without having to convert it to F.
12:34 druthb Hi, owen!
12:35 owen Hi
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12:37 Mirbolt hello there, can anyone suggest why when i check in an item, it looses its current location? i am using 3.00.04
12:41 owen Mirbolt: After checking something in the item has no current location at all?
12:41 Mirbolt that is correct
12:42 Mirbolt i have to go into edit and resave the item in order to give it a current location again
12:42 owen Are you sure you're logged in at a valid branch--not logged in as your kohaadmin user for instance?
12:42 Mirbolt yep, checked that
12:43 * owen has not heard of that problem before
12:52 Mirbolt Mirbolt is sad to hear that
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13:13 owen Comments on Bug 2711 says that 245n and 245p show in the XSLT detail display in the OPAC
13:13 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2711 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, No Holds on Lost Items
13:13 owen ...but I'm looking at a record with a 245p and I don't see it
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13:16 owen munin, do you have a test install of HEAD you can check that out on? Thanks buddy.
13:16 munin owen: Error: "do" is not a valid command.
13:19 owen Whoops, syspref fail
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13:32 jcamins Good morning, #koha
13:45 jcamins larsw: Around?
13:45 owen Too early for larsw I think
13:45 jcamins Oh, right. He's in NZ.
13:45 jcamins I keep on forgetting that significant parts of the Koha community are in NZ.
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13:47 jwagner nengard, online?
13:47 nengard yes
13:48 jwagner Just added screen shots to Bug 2434
13:48 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Remove unimplemented upcoming events message
13:48 nengard rather be in bed though
13:48 bouazizi slt
13:48 jwagner (me too!  my legs ache!!!)
13:48 bouazizi do you speak frensh
13:49 nengard okay can anyone else confirm whether this works or not? cause we're both seeing different things
13:50 jwagner I'm pretty sure it's happening because the entry is still in the message transports table.  Looking at the code, it just cycles through everything in that table for the display.  What I was wondering, when I reopened it, was if there's a way to script removing that entry from the message transports table.
13:50 owen bouazizi: If you need help with Koha in French, try #koha-fr on
13:50 owen[…]ort-communautaire
13:51 bouazizi thinks
13:51 nengard jwagner, are you sure your database was updated with this patch? off to check my tables, but your theory is confusing cause I don't see those rows anymore on any page
13:51 druthb jwagner and nengard: Sure, that can be scripted; it's in to do precisely that, in fact, in HEAD.
13:52 nengard Event is not in my message transports table
13:52 nengard like it is in yours
13:52 jwagner I've been doing a git pull on master on that server
13:53 druthb did you run
13:53 jwagner It didn't require it -- Isn't that supposed to come up & prompt you when it's needed?
13:53 druthb *supposed* to, yes
13:53 * druthb never waits for it to ask.
13:54 nengard jwagner i have found that sometimes it doesn't prompt me
13:54 owen druthb is forward like that
13:54 jwagner OK, druthb, can you run it on the 3.2 server, or will you trust me to :-)
13:54 * druthb grabs a coat.  That was cooooold, owen.
13:55 druthb jwagner, that server is Your Baby...go for it.
13:55 nengard sometimes the system thinks that it's a newer version than it really is
13:55 nengard i had to change my version in the old prefs editor a few times
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13:56 owen druthb: You gotta be assertive with Koha. Don't wait for Koha to make the first move ;)
13:56 druthb heh.  true enough, that.
13:56 owen 184 open "PATCH-sent" bugs:
13:57 owen If your bug report has been "PATCH-sent" since April 2009, you might want to revisit it :P
13:57 nengard thanks for the list owen - i'll go ahead and read through these
13:58 * owen made a little bit of headway on it yesterday
13:58 nengard saw that!!
13:58 owen If you maintain a separate branch in get for every patch you submit, it should be obvious that you've got outstanding patches!
13:59 owen get -> git
13:59 jwagner Hmmm.  Ran the script manually -- no output to screen and no change in the db.  It's still showing me at
13:59 druthb That's the right rev.
14:00 jwagner And the lines are still in message_transports & in the screen displays.
14:00 druthb wait..message_transports?    the patch removes from letter and message_attributes.
14:01 jwagner But unless I'm reading the code wrong (the bit I quoted in the bug report), it's cycling through the transports table for the display.
14:02 * jwagner thinks it's entirely possible I'm reading the code wrong, of course.
14:03 jwagner The EVENT notice is still in the notices list
14:03 nengard can someone else please check their dbs?
14:03 nengard like I said jwagner and I see diff things in our tables
14:03 nengard my transports table doesn't have Event
14:03 nengard that's why I didn't remove it from that table ...
14:04 druthb ah-hah.
14:05 nengard those aren't put in there during install
14:05 nengard jsut checked the sql riles
14:05 nengard or --
14:05 nengard just checked the sql files
14:05 nengard how is that table populated?
14:06 jwagner Has to be during the install -- I've never added anything to it.  This server was set up specifically for testing 3.2, so it's not that old.
14:06 nengard FOUND IT!!
14:06 nengard it's in the optional SQL
14:06 bouazizi prb Echec de la connexion à
14:06 bouazizi do you solution
14:06 nengard not sure why i don't have it - but i'll update the file and submit another patch
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14:08 jwagner Great.  Glad to know I'm not going crazy.  At least in this regard....
14:08 druthb 'bout to say..
14:08 owen bouazizi: Did you try #koha-fr on
14:08 bouazizi no
14:09 owen bouazizi:[…]ort-communautaire
14:09 bouazizi thinks owen
14:18 jwagner nengard++ # quick work on the patch
14:18 druthb nengard++
14:18 nengard :) no prob
14:18 druthb @karma nengard
14:18 munin druthb: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 105 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 105.
14:18 nengard glad we figured it out
14:19 nengard i hve no clue why it wasn't in my table to start with
14:19 owen druthb: Regarding Bug 4340, any idea why a search for "o'brien" would return results, but a search for " d'andrea" wouldn't?
14:19 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4340 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, dbavousett, ASSIGNED, patron name search does not handle punctuated names
14:19 nengard what?? that's crazy talk
14:19 druthb hmmm
14:20 owen I'm testing on HEAD without the Bug 4340 patch
14:22 druthb The Bug 4340 path doesn't so much cope with the case you're dealing with here, owen; its' goal is to cope with punctuated names where the user has entered part of the name, but not the punctuation mark.
14:23 * owen finds his patron search was by default limiting to his own branch
14:23 druthb did un-doing the limit solve the problem you were observing?
14:24 owen Yup
14:24 owen druthb: Can you describe a case which fails right now but which works with your patch?
14:24 nengard does bug 4853 refer to renewing items checked out to patrons? or renewing serials?
14:24 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4853 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Rights needed to renew a document
14:24 nengard i think items checked out to patrons
14:24 nengard but i want to confirm
14:24 druthb owen++ # for solving his own issues
14:25 druthb owen:  Sure.  If you enter Jones, and a borrower is named Smith-Jones, as of when this patch was written--more than a year ago--you would not retrieve the borrower.
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14:26 druthb Ditto for other punctuations:  "Angelo" would not find "D'Angelo"
14:26 druthb It is possible that this patch is now mooted by some other development.
14:26 owen So if a search for "brien" returns patrons named "O'Brien," then the problem has been fixed?
14:26 druthb That case would be addressed by my patch, yes.
14:28 druthb what my patch was trying to avoid was the case where "Foobrien" would be returned, also.
14:28 kfmeeting back
14:28 owen I'm also finding that searching for "Flores" returns both "Flores" and "Santiago-Flores"
14:29 * jwagner needs a refresher in basic Windows tools. Paint != Calculator....
14:29 druthb That would be correct behavior, according to my patch.  But does it return Smithflores?
14:29 owen A search for "lores" returns Flores, Santiago-Flores, and first name Dolores
14:29 wizzyrea so the heather heath problem?
14:30 druthb That was specifically what my patch does *not* do, as the requesting customer felt that was undesirable behavior.
14:31 druthb If the community feels a straight-LIKE search that I ducked around is a better answer, I'm fine with that, and the bug can be mooted.
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14:31 druthb Hi, brendan. :)
14:31 * owen is tempted to close the bug and wait for someone to complain
14:31 brendan hi ruth
14:31 druthb wizzy:  exactly.
14:31 owen wizzyrea: Did that specific case never get addressed?
14:32 * owen can't remember exactly what the details were
14:32 wizzyrea i haven't checked it but I certainly can
14:34 wizzyrea just so I'm clear
14:34 wizzyrea the behavior that we are hoping for is that
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14:34 wizzyrea typing heather heath brings back 1 patron?
14:34 wizzyrea or that it brings back all people heather and heath*
14:35 owen Ah, but not people named Heather Cunningham
14:35 wizzyrea in her case, heather is her first name
14:35 wizzyrea heath is her last name
14:35 wizzyrea and it brings back heath*
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14:36 wizzyrea in all name fields
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14:36 wizzyrea at least
14:36 wizzyrea in my test install
14:36 wizzyrea but let me make sure its uptotippytopdate
14:36 * kfmeeting is totally confused
14:36 * owen too
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14:36 kf @wunder mumbai
14:36 munin kf: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (7:40 PM IST on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
14:36 kf @wunder Konstanz
14:36 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.5�C (4:45 PM CEST on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
14:39 kf why did I type mumbai at first?
14:39 * druthb catches up with the screen, and blinks, trying to sort all that out.
14:40 wizzyrea ugh sorry
14:40 wizzyrea I'll go back to my hole
14:40 wizzyrea I just wanted to know if the deal where if you search for heather heath, she's not at the top of the list for exact match had been addressed.
14:41 wizzyrea (it's an annoyance, and a fringe case)
14:41 druthb no, don't, wizzyrea...I'm just back and forth with something troubling here..
14:41 druthb I agree--an exact-match should jump to the top of the list; it just makes sense.
14:41 wizzyrea troubling = bad
14:42 druthb nuisanc-ey, mostly.
14:44 Genji okay, for some strange reason, even though i just logged in, opac still shows the login box and the interface, straight after.
14:44 Genji any ideas?
14:44 nengard can anyone tell me what bug 4487 was trying to point us to and what i should be testing to see if it works? there is no summary or attached patch
14:44 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4487 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, Permit - and . in callnumber plugin
14:45 Genji permit an . in callnumber...
14:45 nengard Genji - cookie issue?
14:45 Genji dunno.. but i click refresh.. and the login box is gone.
14:46 nengard Genji meaning i should be able to type a . in the call number? cause I could do that before ...
14:46 wizzyrea dunno, there is precious little it
14:46 wizzyrea about it*
14:46 nengard hmmm
14:46 nengard must be why it's still open
14:46 nengard no one can test what they don't understand
14:46 wizzyrea *nod*
14:47 wizzyrea nahuel, can you speak to bug 4487 so we can test, plz?
14:47 brendan @wunder 20008
14:47 munin brendan: The current temperature in Palisades, Washington, District of Columbia is 29.3�C (10:54 AM EDT on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising).
14:49 nahuel wizzyrea, what ?
14:49 owen is now known as owen-away
14:49 wizzyrea we're not sure how to test bug 4487 to be able to close it
14:50 nahuel hmmm
14:50 nahuel in callnumber autocompletion
14:50 nahuel it was not able to have - and . in prefix
14:52 nengard i'm confused ... there is no autocomplete in call numbers ... or am i missing something?
14:52 nengard call number on my system has no plugin associated with it in the bib record
14:53 nengard off to see the item record now
14:53 nengard not on the item record either ...
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14:57 nahuel nengard, there is a plugin for callnumber :)
14:57 nahuel in cataloguing framework
14:57 nengard i'm in cataloging ... i'm in add a record and there is nothign there ... i'm in add an item and there is nothing there - on my system ... anyone else want to test this?
14:59 nahuel you must configure your framework
14:59 nahuel to use the plugin callnumber in your callnumber field
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15:06 nengard can someone who uses that plugin test this and close the bug?
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15:19 wizzyrea hm. Can you only do one global notice for hold notification?
15:20 jwagner wizzyrea, so far as I know there's only one hold notice.
15:24 wizzyrea I know you can *define* secondary ones
15:24 wizzyrea but I don't see anywhere you can actually apply it to a specific library
15:24 jwagner Yes, but can you tell the code to use them....
15:25 wizzyrea that's my point :)
15:25 jwagner It would be nice if all the notices could be set up by library, wouldn't it?
15:26 wizzyrea yep
15:26 jwagner (well, you can do overdues that way now, but you get my point)
15:26 kf bye koha
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15:29 Genji is it possible to put params into $cgi ?
15:29 Genji like $input->param(
15:30 Genji 'text', 'value'); ?
15:33 wasabi new
15:33 wasabi oops..
15:36 wizzyrea jwagner:[…]lla3/post_bug.cgi
15:36 wizzyrea er
15:36 wizzyrea lol
15:37 wizzyrea[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4919
15:37 munin Bug 4919: enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Need ability to define Hold Notice text per library/branch
15:59 Genji how do i invoke a pl file within another pl file?
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16:04 cait hi all
16:04 druthb hi, cait! :D
16:04 cait :)
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16:55 owen nengard: The patch for Bug 4354 hasn't been pushed
16:55 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4354 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Cannot edit existing issuing rules
16:56 nengard owen, but i can edit an existing rule :) so i closed it -- sorry :)
16:56 owen The bug report should be titled "There should probably be a simpler way to edit an existing rule" :P
16:58 owen bouazizi: Did you get information from #koha-fr which led to your bug report?
17:00 owen Sorry wizzyrea, bugs are being strictly rationed: If you file one you have to fix one ;)
17:00 wizzyrea hrmph.
17:01 pianohack Hey, I only have to explain the way I coded it every time someone changes an issuing rule at our library
17:01 pianohack The ajaxcirc patches had a click-to-edit thing for smart rules in the mix
17:02 pianohack That might be easy to separate out and apply, now that c4::service is in
17:02 wizzyrea I will happily fix them if I think I can. Most of the low hanging fruit has been picked though
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17:10 owen Anyone here familiar with the build_browser_and_cloud script? Are there recommended MARC21 parameters for it?
17:13 owen The help says "-f TTTs to define the MARC tag/subfield to use for building nav (676a in UNIMARC for dewey for example)"
17:13 owen What does that mean, "building nav?"
17:18 collum owen: I ran it months ago.  I think I used 092a (Dewey Decimal Number)
17:18 owen What does it do with it?
17:18 collum It created a cloud with French headings for the equivalent dewey number.
17:19 collum I was going to create an English file, but Dewey is under copyright.
17:19 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Correct typo in German sample news <[…]3825c23660d339584>
17:19 collum I can send you a screen shot when I get home tonight.
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17:21 CGI212 Hi
17:23 CGI212 can some body help to create some map in google maps the enterprices that do support
17:26 CGI212 we can create a map of companies that implement koha around the world???
17:28 owen CGI212: You could. Have you seen the list of support companies?
17:29 owen
17:34 CGI212 yes, but there is none in Latin America
17:35 CGI212 how can some company be part of those
17:35 owen Perhaps you could ask here?
17:40 CGI212 haaa ok
17:41 CGI212 it may appear on sites in support of the official website of koha
17:42 owen CGI212: Companies can request a listing on
17:54 CGI212 and you know some company that work in LATINOAMERICA??
17:54 owen No, that's why I suggested asking
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18:03 owen Does require certain parameters to run correctly?
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18:16 owen nengard: I see you commented on Bug 3743, can I assume that means it's a bug in HEAD?
18:16 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3743 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Acquisition stats ordering by month
18:17 nengard it was a problem in HEAD in 2009 when I wrote that ... I'd have to test again to see if it's still there
18:18 owen The changes in the patch don't appear in the current code
18:19 owen Looks like it's still a problem.
18:29 owen The next person so submit a bug without a Koha version number gets negative karma! Don't make me do it!
18:31 * cait writes herself a big post-it
18:31 cait ;)
18:31 cait owen++ for hard bug work
18:32 cait wrote it and found a new bug... *sighs*
18:34 owen "Those who can, do. Those who can't, bug others to finish what they started."
18:34 cait ?
18:35 owen From the English (American?) proverb "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."
18:35 cait owen: thx :)
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18:39 cait was lucky with my bug, nicoles patch will fix it
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19:01 wizzyrea owen: you make me laugh almost every day
19:01 wizzyrea and I appreciate that
19:01 cait bug or feature: opaclanguagedisplay is appearing on opac and I18N tab?
19:01 owen thanks wizzyrea :)
19:02 pianohack cait: Bah, likely bug. I probably put it in both places by accident
19:02 wizzyrea your "tweet mashup" tweet a couple of days ago almost made me fall off my chair.
19:02 pianohack Hmm, some prefs might work better in two tabs, tho
19:02 owen pianohack: The description of each is slightly different, so it looks like an unintentional duplication
19:03 wizzyrea the real kicker, PH, is can you have one on and one off and it still works
19:03 cait huh?
19:03 owen Oy
19:03 wizzyrea which will it honor?
19:04 pianohack wizzyrea: Linked to same database row
19:04 pianohack should be, anyway
19:04 wizzyrea good, that's a problem avoided :D
19:05 pianohack owen: ah, okay, that is a problem
19:12 owen Hm... why isn't showing me a filter?
19:16 * owen shall file a bug with no version number and a comment asking for further questions to be directed to a P.O. Box in Saskatchewan.
19:17 pianohack Don't forget a default assignee of the ceo of a company that no longer exists and didn't answer bugmail when it did
19:17 wizzyrea ohsnap
19:17 wizzyrea though I think we've rooted most of that out
19:17 pianohack Not pointing out any PARTICULAR company
19:17 pianohack just, you know, POINTING IT OUT
19:17 wizzyrea if your ILS vendor hands you a lemon...
19:17 wizzyrea OH CRAP.
19:18 wizzyrea (referring of course to the OLD management, not the new... eek.)
19:18 owen We all understand the reference
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19:34 chris if the shoe fits
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20:17 larsw jcamins, I'm here now
20:17 jcamins Yay! Question for you: where is the list of Koha's dependencies under Debian?
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20:18 * owen pictures jcamins waiting patiently all day for larsw to wake up
20:19 jcamins I looked in the debian directory, but I couldn't figure out where the actual dependency list was.
20:20 jcamins Probably because I don't know anything about Debian other than it's a flavor of GNU/Linux.
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20:20 pianohack jcamins: look at the debian/control file
20:22 jcamins Ah!
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20:23 jcamins I guess I should've just asked the channel at large. Oh well. I'm not writing a FreeBSD ports Makefile until tonight anyway.
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20:31 * owen leaves a bucket of negative karma to pass out to bad-bug filers and heads home for the night
20:31 richard hi
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21:08 cait good night all
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21:10 larsw jcamins_a, you'll want to base the dependency list on the canonical list in, rather than maintain it manually; see debian/update-control (or whatever I called it; I don't have a koha checkout now)
21:52 jcamins_a larsw: Oh, I see. That makes sense. Thanks. I guess I'll write a similar script for FreeBSD.
21:53 jcamins_a Incidentally, great comment.
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22:02 henboy @seen pianohacker
22:02 munin henboy: Error: 'pianohacker' is not a valid nick.  That nick is too long for this server.
22:02 chris @seen pianohack
22:02 munin chris: pianohack was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 41 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <pianohack> jcamins: look at the debian/control file
22:02 henboy @seen pianohack
22:02 munin henboy: pianohack was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 41 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <pianohack> jcamins: look at the debian/control file
22:03 henboy Thank you chris
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22:05 chris speak of the devil
22:06 henboy yeah he is actually across the room from me - he told me to see when he was last in to show me how
22:07 chris ahh :-)
22:08 chris you are the new jesse? :-)
22:08 pianohack So yah, that's Kieran from my library. Showing him irc so he knows who to bug when I'm doing finals :)
22:08 chris ahhh cool, i think i emailed with you henboy
22:08 henboy god help me no... I am just trying to understand the basics
22:08 henboy oh
22:08 * chris is chris cormack from nz
22:09 henboy awesome
22:23 brendan heya henboy
22:23 brendan and pianohack
22:23 pianohack hi brendan
22:26 henboy hey there brendan:
22:29 pianohack Anyone successfully used misc/maintenance/ lately?
22:29 pianohack Looks safe and updated, but wanted to check
22:35 brendan use it all the time during intial data imports
22:36 brendan or moving around itemtypes or something trivial like that
22:38 chris yeah, it works great
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