Time Nick Message 22:38 chris yeah, it works great 22:36 brendan or moving around itemtypes or something trivial like that 22:35 brendan use it all the time during intial data imports 22:29 pianohack Looks safe and updated, but wanted to check 22:29 pianohack Anyone successfully used misc/maintenance/sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl lately? 22:26 henboy hey there brendan: 22:23 pianohack hi brendan 22:23 brendan and pianohack 22:23 brendan heya henboy 22:09 henboy awesome 22:08 * chris is chris cormack from nz 22:08 henboy oh 22:08 henboy god help me no... I am just trying to understand the basics 22:08 chris ahhh cool, i think i emailed with you henboy 22:08 pianohack So yah, that's Kieran from my library. Showing him irc so he knows who to bug when I'm doing finals :) 22:08 chris you are the new jesse? :-) 22:07 chris ahh :-) 22:06 henboy yeah he is actually across the room from me - he told me to see when he was last in to show me how 22:05 chris speak of the devil 22:03 henboy Thank you chris 22:02 munin henboy: pianohack was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 41 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <pianohack> jcamins: look at the debian/control file 22:02 henboy @seen pianohack 22:02 munin chris: pianohack was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 41 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <pianohack> jcamins: look at the debian/control file 22:02 chris @seen pianohack 22:02 munin henboy: Error: 'pianohacker' is not a valid nick. That nick is too long for this server. 22:02 henboy @seen pianohacker 21:53 jcamins_a Incidentally, great comment. 21:52 jcamins_a larsw: Oh, I see. That makes sense. Thanks. I guess I'll write a similar script for FreeBSD. 21:10 larsw jcamins_a, you'll want to base the dependency list on the canonical list in PerlDependencies.pm, rather than maintain it manually; see debian/update-control (or whatever I called it; I don't have a koha checkout now) 21:08 cait good night all 20:31 richard hi 20:31 * owen leaves a bucket of negative karma to pass out to bad-bug filers and heads home for the night 20:23 jcamins I guess I should've just asked the channel at large. Oh well. I'm not writing a FreeBSD ports Makefile until tonight anyway. 20:22 jcamins Ah! 20:20 pianohack jcamins: look at the debian/control file 20:20 jcamins Probably because I don't know anything about Debian other than it's a flavor of GNU/Linux. 20:19 jcamins I looked in the debian directory, but I couldn't figure out where the actual dependency list was. 20:18 * owen pictures jcamins waiting patiently all day for larsw to wake up 20:17 jcamins Yay! Question for you: where is the list of Koha's dependencies under Debian? 20:17 larsw jcamins, I'm here now 19:34 chris if the shoe fits 19:18 owen We all understand the reference 19:18 wizzyrea (referring of course to the OLD management, not the new... eek.) 19:17 wizzyrea OH CRAP. 19:17 wizzyrea if your ILS vendor hands you a lemon... 19:17 pianohack just, you know, POINTING IT OUT 19:17 pianohack Not pointing out any PARTICULAR company 19:17 wizzyrea though I think we've rooted most of that out 19:17 wizzyrea ohsnap 19:17 pianohack Don't forget a default assignee of the ceo of a company that no longer exists and didn't answer bugmail when it did 19:16 * owen shall file a bug with no version number and a comment asking for further questions to be directed to a P.O. Box in Saskatchewan. 19:12 owen Hm... why isn't opac-topissues.pl showing me a filter? 19:05 pianohack owen: ah, okay, that is a problem 19:04 wizzyrea good, that's a problem avoided :D 19:04 pianohack should be, anyway 19:04 pianohack wizzyrea: Linked to same database row 19:03 wizzyrea which will it honor? 19:03 owen Oy 19:03 cait huh? 19:03 wizzyrea the real kicker, PH, is can you have one on and one off and it still works 19:02 owen pianohack: The description of each is slightly different, so it looks like an unintentional duplication 19:02 pianohack Hmm, some prefs might work better in two tabs, tho 19:02 wizzyrea your "tweet mashup" tweet a couple of days ago almost made me fall off my chair. 19:02 pianohack cait: Bah, likely bug. I probably put it in both places by accident 19:01 owen thanks wizzyrea :) 19:01 cait bug or feature: opaclanguagedisplay is appearing on opac and I18N tab? 19:01 wizzyrea and I appreciate that 19:01 wizzyrea owen: you make me laugh almost every day 18:39 cait was lucky with my bug, nicoles patch will fix it 18:35 cait owen: thx :) 18:35 owen From the English (American?) proverb "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach." 18:34 cait ? 18:34 owen "Those who can, do. Those who can't, bug others to finish what they started." 18:32 cait wrote it and found a new bug... *sighs* 18:31 cait owen++ for hard bug work 18:31 cait ;) 18:31 * cait writes herself a big post-it 18:29 owen The next person so submit a bug without a Koha version number gets negative karma! Don't make me do it! 18:19 owen Looks like it's still a problem. 18:18 owen The changes in the patch don't appear in the current code 18:17 nengard it was a problem in HEAD in 2009 when I wrote that ... I'd have to test again to see if it's still there 18:16 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3743 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Acquisition stats ordering by month 18:16 owen nengard: I see you commented on Bug 3743, can I assume that means it's a bug in HEAD? 18:03 owen Does build_holds_queue.pl require certain parameters to run correctly? 17:54 owen No, that's why I suggested asking http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/koha-es/ 17:54 CGI212 and you know some company that work in LATINOAMERICA?? 17:42 owen CGI212: Companies can request a listing on http://koha-community.org 17:41 CGI212 it may appear on sites in support of the official website of koha 17:40 CGI212 haaa ok 17:35 owen Perhaps you could ask here? http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/koha-es/ 17:35 CGI212 how can some company be part of those 17:34 CGI212 yes, but there is none in Latin America 17:29 owen http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ 17:28 owen CGI212: You could. Have you seen the list of support companies? 17:26 CGI212 we can create a map of companies that implement koha around the world??? 17:23 CGI212 can some body help to create some map in google maps the enterprices that do support 17:21 CGI212 Hi 17:19 collum I can send you a screen shot when I get home tonight. 17:19 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Correct typo in German sample news <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=764c105494fae8785f0bea63825c23660d339584> 17:19 collum I was going to create an English file, but Dewey is under copyright. 17:18 collum It created a cloud with French headings for the equivalent dewey number. 17:18 owen What does it do with it? 17:18 collum owen: I ran it months ago. I think I used 092a (Dewey Decimal Number) 17:13 owen What does that mean, "building nav?" 17:13 owen The help says "-f TTTs to define the MARC tag/subfield to use for building nav (676a in UNIMARC for dewey for example)" 17:10 owen Anyone here familiar with the build_browser_and_cloud script? Are there recommended MARC21 parameters for it? 17:02 wizzyrea I will happily fix them if I think I can. Most of the low hanging fruit has been picked though 17:02 pianohack That might be easy to separate out and apply, now that c4::service is in 17:01 pianohack The ajaxcirc patches had a click-to-edit thing for smart rules in the mix 17:01 pianohack Hey, I only have to explain the way I coded it every time someone changes an issuing rule at our library 17:00 wizzyrea hrmph. 17:00 owen Sorry wizzyrea, bugs are being strictly rationed: If you file one you have to fix one ;) 16:58 owen bouazizi: Did you get information from #koha-fr which led to your bug report? 16:56 owen The bug report should be titled "There should probably be a simpler way to edit an existing rule" :P 16:56 nengard owen, but i can edit an existing rule :) so i closed it -- sorry :) 16:55 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4354 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Cannot edit existing issuing rules 16:55 owen nengard: The patch for Bug 4354 hasn't been pushed 16:04 cait :) 16:04 druthb hi, cait! :D 16:04 cait hi all 15:59 Genji how do i invoke a pl file within another pl file? 15:37 munin 04Bug 4919: enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Need ability to define Hold Notice text per library/branch 15:37 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4919 15:36 wizzyrea lol 15:36 wasabi Genji: http://search.cpan.org/dist/CGI.pm/lib/CGI.pm#SETTING_THE_VALUE(S)_OF_A_NAMED_PARAMETER: ;) 15:36 wizzyrea er 15:36 wizzyrea jwagner: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/post_bug.cgi 15:33 wasabi oops.. 15:33 wasabi new 15:30 Genji 'text', 'value'); ? 15:29 Genji like $input->param( 15:29 Genji is it possible to put params into $cgi ? 15:26 kf bye koha 15:26 jwagner (well, you can do overdues that way now, but you get my point) 15:26 wizzyrea yep 15:25 jwagner It would be nice if all the notices could be set up by library, wouldn't it? 15:25 wizzyrea that's my point :) 15:24 jwagner Yes, but can you tell the code to use them.... 15:24 wizzyrea but I don't see anywhere you can actually apply it to a specific library 15:24 wizzyrea I know you can *define* secondary ones 15:20 jwagner wizzyrea, so far as I know there's only one hold notice. 15:19 wizzyrea hm. Can you only do one global notice for hold notification? 15:06 nengard can someone who uses that plugin test this and close the bug? 14:59 nahuel to use the plugin callnumber in your callnumber field 14:59 nahuel you must configure your framework 14:57 nengard i'm in cataloging ... i'm in add a record and there is nothign there ... i'm in add an item and there is nothing there - on my system ... anyone else want to test this? 14:57 nahuel in cataloguing framework 14:57 nahuel nengard, there is a plugin for callnumber :) 14:53 nengard not on the item record either ... 14:53 nengard off to see the item record now 14:52 nengard call number on my system has no plugin associated with it in the bib record 14:52 nengard i'm confused ... there is no autocomplete in call numbers ... or am i missing something? 14:50 nahuel it was not able to have - and . in prefix 14:50 nahuel in callnumber autocompletion 14:50 nahuel hmmm 14:49 wizzyrea we're not sure how to test bug 4487 to be able to close it 14:49 nahuel wizzyrea, what ? 14:47 munin brendan: The current temperature in Palisades, Washington, District of Columbia is 29.3�C (10:54 AM EDT on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising). 14:47 brendan @wunder 20008 14:47 wizzyrea nahuel, can you speak to bug 4487 so we can test, plz? 14:46 wizzyrea *nod* 14:46 nengard no one can test what they don't understand 14:46 nengard must be why it's still open 14:46 nengard hmmm 14:46 wizzyrea about it* 14:46 wizzyrea dunno, there is precious little it 14:46 nengard Genji meaning i should be able to type a . in the call number? cause I could do that before ... 14:45 Genji dunno.. but i click refresh.. and the login box is gone. 14:45 nengard Genji - cookie issue? 14:45 Genji permit an . in callnumber... 14:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4487 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, Permit - and . in callnumber plugin 14:44 nengard can anyone tell me what bug 4487 was trying to point us to and what i should be testing to see if it works? there is no summary or attached patch 14:44 Genji any ideas? 14:44 Genji okay, for some strange reason, even though i just logged in, opac still shows the login box and the interface, straight after. 14:42 druthb nuisanc-ey, mostly. 14:41 wizzyrea troubling = bad 14:41 druthb I agree--an exact-match should jump to the top of the list; it just makes sense. 14:41 druthb no, don't, wizzyrea...I'm just back and forth with something troubling here.. 14:41 wizzyrea (it's an annoyance, and a fringe case) 14:40 wizzyrea I just wanted to know if the deal where if you search for heather heath, she's not at the top of the list for exact match had been addressed. 14:40 wizzyrea I'll go back to my hole 14:40 wizzyrea ugh sorry 14:39 * druthb catches up with the screen, and blinks, trying to sort all that out. 14:39 kf why did I type mumbai at first? 14:36 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.5�C (4:45 PM CEST on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). 14:36 kf @wunder Konstanz 14:36 munin kf: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (7:40 PM IST on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 14:36 kf @wunder mumbai 14:36 * owen too 14:36 * kfmeeting is totally confused 14:36 wizzyrea but let me make sure its uptotippytopdate 14:36 wizzyrea in my test install 14:36 wizzyrea at least 14:36 wizzyrea in all name fields 14:35 wizzyrea and it brings back heath* 14:35 wizzyrea heath is her last name 14:35 wizzyrea in her case, heather is her first name 14:35 owen Ah, but not people named Heather Cunningham 14:34 wizzyrea or that it brings back all people heather and heath* 14:34 wizzyrea typing heather heath brings back 1 patron? 14:34 wizzyrea the behavior that we are hoping for is that 14:34 wizzyrea just so I'm clear 14:32 wizzyrea i haven't checked it but I certainly can 14:32 * owen can't remember exactly what the details were 14:31 owen wizzyrea: Did that specific case never get addressed? 14:31 druthb wizzy: exactly. 14:31 brendan hi ruth 14:31 * owen is tempted to close the bug and wait for someone to complain 14:31 druthb Hi, brendan. :) 14:31 druthb If the community feels a straight-LIKE search that I ducked around is a better answer, I'm fine with that, and the bug can be mooted. 14:30 druthb That was specifically what my patch does *not* do, as the requesting customer felt that was undesirable behavior. 14:29 wizzyrea so the heather heath problem? 14:29 owen A search for "lores" returns Flores, Santiago-Flores, and first name Dolores 14:29 druthb That would be correct behavior, according to my patch. But does it return Smithflores? 14:29 * jwagner needs a refresher in basic Windows tools. Paint != Calculator.... 14:28 owen I'm also finding that searching for "Flores" returns both "Flores" and "Santiago-Flores" 14:28 kfmeeting back 14:28 druthb what my patch was trying to avoid was the case where "Foobrien" would be returned, also. 14:26 druthb That case would be addressed by my patch, yes. 14:26 owen So if a search for "brien" returns patrons named "O'Brien," then the problem has been fixed? 14:26 druthb It is possible that this patch is now mooted by some other development. 14:26 druthb Ditto for other punctuations: "Angelo" would not find "D'Angelo" 14:25 druthb owen: Sure. If you enter Jones, and a borrower is named Smith-Jones, as of when this patch was written--more than a year ago--you would not retrieve the borrower. 14:24 druthb owen++ # for solving his own issues 14:24 nengard but i want to confirm 14:24 nengard i think items checked out to patrons 14:24 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4853 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, Rights needed to renew a document 14:24 nengard does bug 4853 refer to renewing items checked out to patrons? or renewing serials? 14:24 owen druthb: Can you describe a case which fails right now but which works with your patch? 14:24 owen Yup 14:23 druthb did un-doing the limit solve the problem you were observing? 14:23 * owen finds his patron search was by default limiting to his own branch 14:22 druthb The Bug 4340 path doesn't so much cope with the case you're dealing with here, owen; its' goal is to cope with punctuated names where the user has entered part of the name, but not the punctuation mark. 14:20 owen I'm testing on HEAD without the Bug 4340 patch 14:19 druthb hmmm 14:19 nengard what?? that's crazy talk 14:19 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4340 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, dbavousett, ASSIGNED, patron name search does not handle punctuated names 14:19 owen druthb: Regarding Bug 4340, any idea why a search for "o'brien" would return results, but a search for " d'andrea" wouldn't? 14:19 nengard i hve no clue why it wasn't in my table to start with 14:18 nengard glad we figured it out 14:18 munin druthb: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 105 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 105. 14:18 druthb @karma nengard 14:18 nengard :) no prob 14:18 druthb nengard++ 14:18 jwagner nengard++ # quick work on the patch 14:09 bouazizi thinks owen 14:09 owen bouazizi: http://www.koha-fr.org/content/support-communautaire 14:08 bouazizi no 14:08 owen bouazizi: Did you try #koha-fr on irc.freenode.net? 14:08 druthb 'bout to say.. 14:08 jwagner Great. Glad to know I'm not going crazy. At least in this regard.... 14:06 nengard not sure why i don't have it - but i'll update the file and submit another patch 14:06 bouazizi do you solution 14:06 bouazizi prb Echec de la connexion à z3950.bnf.fr 14:06 nengard it's in the optional SQL 14:06 nengard FOUND IT!! 14:06 jwagner Has to be during the install -- I've never added anything to it. This server was set up specifically for testing 3.2, so it's not that old. 14:05 nengard how is that table populated? 14:05 nengard just checked the sql files 14:05 nengard or -- 14:05 nengard jsut checked the sql riles 14:05 nengard those aren't put in there during install 14:04 druthb ah-hah. 14:03 nengard that's why I didn't remove it from that table ... 14:03 nengard my transports table doesn't have Event 14:03 nengard like I said jwagner and I see diff things in our tables 14:03 nengard can someone else please check their dbs? 14:03 jwagner The EVENT notice is still in the notices list 14:02 * jwagner thinks it's entirely possible I'm reading the code wrong, of course. 14:01 jwagner But unless I'm reading the code wrong (the bit I quoted in the bug report), it's cycling through the transports table for the display. 14:00 druthb wait..message_transports? the patch removes from letter and message_attributes. 14:00 jwagner And the lines are still in message_transports & in the screen displays. 13:59 druthb That's the right rev. 13:59 jwagner Hmmm. Ran the updatedatabase.pl script manually -- no output to screen and no change in the db. It's still showing me at 3.01.00.141 13:59 owen get -> git 13:58 owen If you maintain a separate branch in get for every patch you submit, it should be obvious that you've got outstanding patches! 13:58 nengard saw that!! 13:58 * owen made a little bit of headway on it yesterday 13:57 nengard thanks for the list owen - i'll go ahead and read through these 13:57 owen If your bug report has been "PATCH-sent" since April 2009, you might want to revisit it :P 13:56 owen 184 open "PATCH-sent" bugs: http://bit.ly/biwiw0 13:56 druthb heh. true enough, that. 13:56 owen druthb: You gotta be assertive with Koha. Don't wait for Koha to make the first move ;) 13:55 nengard i had to change my version in the old prefs editor a few times 13:55 nengard sometimes the system thinks that it's a newer version than it really is 13:55 druthb jwagner, that server is Your Baby...go for it. 13:54 * druthb grabs a coat. That was cooooold, owen. 13:54 jwagner OK, druthb, can you run it on the 3.2 server, or will you trust me to :-) 13:54 owen druthb is forward like that 13:54 nengard jwagner i have found that sometimes it doesn't prompt me 13:53 * druthb never waits for it to ask. 13:53 druthb *supposed* to, yes 13:53 jwagner It didn't require it -- Isn't that supposed to come up & prompt you when it's needed? 13:53 druthb did you run updatedatabase.pl? 13:52 jwagner I've been doing a git pull on master on that server 13:52 nengard like it is in yours 13:52 nengard Event is not in my message transports table 13:51 druthb jwagner and nengard: Sure, that can be scripted; it's in updatedatabase.pl to do precisely that, in fact, in HEAD. 13:51 nengard jwagner, are you sure your database was updated with this patch? off to check my tables, but your theory is confusing cause I don't see those rows anymore on any page 13:51 bouazizi thinks 13:50 owen http://www.koha-fr.org/content/support-communautaire 13:50 owen bouazizi: If you need help with Koha in French, try #koha-fr on irc.freenode.net 13:50 jwagner I'm pretty sure it's happening because the entry is still in the message transports table. Looking at the code, it just cycles through everything in that table for the display. What I was wondering, when I reopened it, was if there's a way to script removing that entry from the message transports table. 13:49 nengard okay can anyone else confirm whether this works or not? cause we're both seeing different things 13:48 bouazizi do you speak frensh 13:48 jwagner (me too! my legs ache!!!) 13:48 bouazizi slt 13:48 nengard rather be in bed though 13:48 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Remove unimplemented upcoming events message 13:48 jwagner Just added screen shots to Bug 2434 13:47 nengard yes 13:47 jwagner nengard, online? 13:45 jcamins I keep on forgetting that significant parts of the Koha community are in NZ. 13:45 jcamins Oh, right. He's in NZ. 13:45 owen Too early for larsw I think 13:45 jcamins larsw: Around? 13:32 jcamins Good morning, #koha 13:19 owen Whoops, syspref fail 13:16 munin owen: Error: "do" is not a valid command. 13:16 owen munin, do you have a test install of HEAD you can check that out on? Thanks buddy. 13:13 owen ...but I'm looking at a record with a 245p and I don't see it 13:13 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2711 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, No Holds on Lost Items 13:13 owen Comments on Bug 2711 says that 245n and 245p show in the XSLT detail display in the OPAC 12:52 Mirbolt Mirbolt is sad to hear that 12:43 * owen has not heard of that problem before 12:42 Mirbolt yep, checked that 12:42 owen Are you sure you're logged in at a valid branch--not logged in as your kohaadmin user for instance? 12:42 Mirbolt i have to go into edit and resave the item in order to give it a current location again 12:41 Mirbolt that is correct 12:41 owen Mirbolt: After checking something in the item has no current location at all? 12:37 Mirbolt hello there, can anyone suggest why when i check in an item, it looses its current location? i am using 3.00.04 12:35 owen Hi 12:34 druthb Hi, owen! 12:34 * collum will one day learn that 23.4 C is good without having to convert it to F. 12:34 druthb :) 12:34 kfmeeting ok, back to next training session... 12:32 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 23.4�C (8:40 AM EDT on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). 12:32 collum @wunder 41011 12:32 druthb Cool and damp in Wellington, hot and sweaty in DC, and wicked hot and dry in Konstanz. 12:31 kfmeeting night chris 12:31 chris night all 12:31 chris right, time for sleep i think 12:31 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (12:00 AM NZST on June 30, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 12:31 chris @wunder wellington, nz 12:31 * kfmeeting smiles and waves back to druthb 12:31 kfmeeting or its the 10 computers in those room 12:31 munin druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 24.0�C (8:39 AM EDT on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). 12:30 druthb @wunder 20817 12:30 kfmeeting 28? munin must be kidding 12:30 * druthb waves to kfmeeting. 12:30 munin kfmeeting: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.1�C (2:38 PM CEST on June 29, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). 12:30 kfmeeting @wunder Konstanz 12:27 chris speakers confirmed from nigeria, taiwan, malaysia, pakistan, us, uk, france, australia and nz 12:23 chris just one last speaker confirmation outstanding 12:22 chris awesome, confirmation from nigeria 12:11 * druthb checks that off her list. 12:11 Genji not permissions. i just chowned the koha directory to the webserver user. 12:09 druthb (for a specific file, also worth checking protections to make sure the web server can see 'em.) 12:09 druthb Can you tmpl_include another file in the same directory? I've had path problems show up that way; couldn't include *anything* from that dir, 'cuz the path was not set up right somehow. 12:08 Genji im trying to work out why a tmpl_include, isn't. 12:07 druthb Depends...I know some of them, Genji. I keep certain ones filed under "self-induced pain and suffering." 12:06 Genji hiya all.. anyone here who knows about templates? 12:05 druthb I got the harrumph in stereo--got it here, and could hear her down the hall. 12:05 munin druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 35 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 35. 12:05 druthb @karma jwagner 12:04 gmcharlt jwagner++ # harrumphing 12:04 gmcharlt :) 12:04 druthb gmcharlt++ # thank you very much, sir 12:04 * jwagner mutters, Just You Wait.... 12:03 * druthb cackles maniacally. 12:03 jwagner Harrumph! 12:03 munin gmcharlt: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. 12:03 gmcharlt @karma jdavidb 12:03 gmcharlt no, it's perfectly fair ;) 12:03 jwagner That's cheating! 12:02 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 33 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 33. 12:02 druthb @karma druthb 12:02 * druthb whispers something into munin's ear, then giggles, and returns to her seat. 12:02 * jwagner thinks that exhibit hall was TOO BIG 12:02 jwagner If I weren't so exhausted from ALA, I'd do a victory dance.... 12:01 jwagner heh heh heh 12:01 druthb Awwww 12:00 jwagner See? I _told_ you you'd never catch up to me now!!! 11:59 druthb Yay! my first point! 11:59 munin druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 11:59 druthb @karma druthb 11:59 munin druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (149), "gmcharlt" (149), and "owen" (117). Lowest karma: "<!" (-57), "failed" (-40), and "-" (-25). You (druthb) are ranked 153 out of 890. 11:59 druthb @karma 11:58 nengard and lots of other pluses from that day too :) 11:58 nengard druthb++ for having lunch with me on my birthday :) 11:58 druthb nengard++ #for sharing her birthday muffin, and a wonderful time at lunch Sunday. 11:56 nengard ALA is exhausting!! 11:56 * nengard tries to wave back, but her arm is so tired she can't raise it ... 11:55 druthb (The one I used to wear, and don't any more.) 11:55 druthb My disguise threw munin off a little. 11:55 jwagner You had to work at it, though.... 11:55 druthb See? 11:55 * munin reloads and spins the chambers. 11:54 druthb @roulette 11:54 munin druthb: *click* 11:54 druthb @roulette 11:54 munin druthb: *click* 11:54 druthb @roulette 11:54 druthb Didn't say that. 11:53 jwagner What's this? You change your handle & suddenly munin likes you??? 11:52 druthb good. 11:52 munin druthb: Naturally. 11:52 druthb @eightball will this 2.2.x upgrade I'm working on ever, ever get finished? 11:51 * druthb waves to nengard 11:46 chris hi druthb 11:45 druthb good day, #koha! 11:03 kf hi hdl ;) 08:35 hdl hi kf 08:35 hdl hi chris 08:23 kf hi chris 08:22 chris hi kf 08:21 kf hi #koha 07:40 chris evening all 05:59 cait bbl 05:58 jloucks bed time. Later people. 05:16 larsw iirc it might save you around 8 hours of checkout time :) 05:16 larsw yeah, I think that's going to be much better for you :) 05:15 robin I guess I could check out the subtrees I want... 05:15 robin larsw: I was just following the instructions :) 05:15 larsw robin, why do you need all of pkg-perl? or did I misunderstand? 05:12 chris heh 05:10 * robin checks out all of debian perl as part of taking over the koha stuff. This may take a while :) 05:07 chris yeah, thats the plan 05:04 robin gonna be back at work tomorrow? Enquiring minds...:) 05:01 chris yeah, even ate something this afternoon 05:00 cait feeling better? 05:00 cait hi chris 05:00 chris hi cait 04:59 chris looks like pianohack chose a good machine 04:21 chris that'll be it 04:17 larsw chris, because it happens almost every time company A develops a successful free software project and then gets bought? 04:13 pianohack bye all. Buying an asus u30jc-a1 (9.5 hr battery life ftw) 04:11 chris why does that sound familiar 04:11 chris "The problem is that Oracle is naturally trying to optimise its acquisition of Sun for its own shareholders, but seems to have forgotten that there are other stakeholders too: the larger open source communities that have formed around the code. That may make sense in the short term, but is undoubtedly fatal in the long term: free software cannot continue to grow and thrive without an engaged community." 03:29 Amit heya chris 03:05 jloucks Got my system up... Anyone using the "upcoming books" feature--and how hard is it to set up? 03:05 jloucks hola. 03:05 jloucks ola. 02:52 pianohack hi jloucks 02:21 jloucks Hello.