IRC log for #koha, 2010-04-09

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01:56 chris anyone heard of these guys before?
02:02 richard nope. would they be one of the first irish koha developers?
02:03 chris if they send a patch they would be :)
02:03 richard :)
02:05 richard looks like it's a pretty new site ->[…].php?1-About-Koha
02:05 chris yep
02:05 chris i just stumbled on to it
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02:44 chris_n interesting
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03:38 brendan hi Amit_G
03:41 Amit_G hyea brendan
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04:04 Jo Chris: you about?
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04:06 brendan hi Jo
04:12 Jo hi Brendan
04:16 Amit_G heya Jo
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04:20 Jo Hey Amit
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04:29 brendan Jo - congrats on the mover and shakers 2010
04:29 brendan Jo++
04:32 Jo oh thank you Brendan :)
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04:44 brendan @karma
04:44 munin brendan: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (119), "chris" (118), and "owen" (92).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23).  You (brendan) are ranked 20 out of 761.
04:45 brendan chris++
04:45 brendan @karma
04:45 munin brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (119), "gmcharlt" (119), and "owen" (92).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23).  You (brendan) are ranked 20 out of 761.
04:45 brendan nice I like ties at the top
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05:15 chris_n @wunder 28334
05:15 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 19.1�C (1:16 AM EDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling).
05:27 brendan hiya chris_n
05:27 brendan how goes the battle
05:30 chris_n I'm just about overcome with sleep :)
05:30 chris_n DBIC whipped up on me good today
05:31 * chris_n considered throwing it out altogether, but finally go the best of it
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05:57 nicomo HI Amit_G
05:57 nicomo hello #koha
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06:16 Amit_G @wunder Delhi
06:16 munin Amit_G: Error: No such location could be found.
06:17 Amit_G @wunder New Delhi
06:17 munin Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 37.0�C (11:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
06:17 Amit_G @wunder Dehradun
06:17 munin Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 24.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1008 hPa.
06:17 Amit_G @wunder Bangalore
06:17 munin Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 27.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 21.0�C.
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07:11 kf good morning #koha
07:11 Amit_G heya kf
07:12 kf hi Amit_G
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08:03 hdl_laptop hi all
08:11 kf hi hdl_laptop
08:12 hdl_laptop hi kf
08:12 hdl_laptop Welcom to the magic world....
08:13 hdl_laptop I really would have liked to be able to explain what you did right to get your results, but I am not on your compter :P
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08:14 magnus g'day #koha
08:15 kf hdl_laptop: my index problem?
08:15 kf hdl_laptop: im not sure it made the difference, but I added my indexed to getIndexes() in Search pm too
08:15 hdl_laptop hi magnus
08:16 magnus hi hdl_laptop
08:16 hdl_laptop kf oh.... bloody hell. We should get that from files or make that come into database.
08:35 kf hdl_laptop: yes, thats what I thoght when I found it
08:35 kf hdl_laptop: did a grep on Control-number when I got really frustrated :)
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11:35 miguel hi all
11:37 magnus hi miguel
11:43 miguel I was talking to Chirs, on the grounds of Perl template toolkit integration
11:44 miguel he told me that was not planned to include multilanguage in this development
11:44 miguel I think we could use it to avoid having to maintain different templates.
11:44 miguel do you think about?
11:58 hdl_laptop hi magnus hi miguel
11:58 magnus hi hdl_laptop
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12:12 jdavidb :)  Hi, #koha.
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12:17 owen Hi everyone
12:17 jwagner G'morning, all
12:20 schuster Howdy all!
12:20 jdavidb hi, schuster! :)
12:20 schuster wizzyrea you hear or is that a phantom?
12:21 schuster I just read this from the Ireland website and had to chuckle - Northeast Kansas Library System has 116 branches and over 2 million records.
12:21 schuster Not sure there are that many libraries in Kansas.... ;)
12:22 jwagner schuster, are you trying to pick a fight this early in the morning :-)
12:22 schuster I have 67 libraries so I'm big, but I do know that "The bigger you are the harder you fall" and being short I can attest to that!
12:24 * jwagner has the bruises to prove it, too....
12:24 schuster Busy week next week we have TLA(Texas Library Association Conference) probably 8,000 crazy librarians in San Antonio along the river walk all drinking lemonade ;)
12:24 jdavidb Dunno where they got those numbers; both are inflated about sixfold over what I know about.
12:24 * jwagner doesn't believe the part about all drinking lemonade
12:24 schuster Presenting on a panel discussion with the NTRL(North Texas Regional Library System Evergreen Consortium)
12:25 schuster shhhh don't tell my boss we do something else ;)
12:25 jdavidb 8,000 crazy librarians--is the "crazy" part mostly because *most* of the ones that go to TLA are K-12 folks, schuster?
12:25 * collum remembers when Plano was in the sticks, and the only reason to go there was to buy beer, because Richardson was dry.
12:25 schuster Hey - who said librarians can't let their hair down?
12:26 jwagner There's a reason I don't go to ALA....
12:26 schuster collum - You should see Frisco!  I live there and we hit 100,000 people can't wait to see what the census does this year.
12:26 jdavidb All ten of us who showed up at the Automation & Technology Roundtable meeting used to giggle about that...
12:26 schuster jwagner what no lemonade?
12:26 collum Wow!  That's where we went to the sticks to see the Drive-in movie.
12:27 jwagner schuster, let's just say I've been to enough library conferences to SERIOUSLY doubt the lemonade story.
12:27 schuster We moved there 12 years ago with about 20,000 people and dirt roads...  We've grown quite fast.  Now Prosper and Celina are the places to move...  We'll be OK before you know it.
12:27 collum Don't you need a passport to cross the Red River?
12:27 schuster jwagner HA!!!...  I'll be at ALA in DC!  My whole family is coming...
12:28 schuster Won't be long and we will annex OK.
12:28 schuster Since half of Dallas is from OK anyway...
12:28 jwagner schuster, we'll have to get together then.  Maybe for some lemonade :-)
12:28 jdavidb schuster:  When I was in high school, our football team (2A) played Southlake-Carroll for bi-district...  Two years ago, my daughter's high school football team (5A) beat Southlake-Carroll in regional playoffs..
12:29 schuster Still working out what I'm doing there but if you can get in that would be great, my wife would love to share lemonade.
12:30 schuster I keep wondering where all these people are working...  But I'm happy to have a job - I noticed about 5 houses in my neighborhood that are in foreclosure.
12:30 schuster collum where do you reside currently?
12:31 schuster I'm working with KUDOS to arrange a meeting for KUDOS and it was suggested that maybe the different companies would want to have a meeting right after with some clients?  Do you know if PTFS has arranged and "official" meetings with clients at ALA?
12:32 jwagner schuster, don't know about a client meeting but if that's what LL used to do, then probably.  You could check with Patrick on that.
12:32 collum schuster: I moved to Northern KY from Houston about 7 years ago.
12:34 schuster collum - wow that would be quite the culture shock...  But I hear it is quite pretty there.
12:34 schuster jwagner - thanks will do.
12:35 collum It's gorgeous and I don't miss the commute at all.
12:42 schuster or the humidity or allergies probably!
12:42 schuster They were saying on the radio this morning that the pollin count is over 5000 when normally 90 is high.
12:43 collum I do have my allergies.  I don't miss the heat, humidity, roaches, and scorpions.  We do have more spiders here than I have ever seen.
12:45 collum And I actually saw more than 9 inches of snow for the first time in my life.  But Dallas seemed to have more than that this year.
12:55 schuster I think I heard we had a total of 12 inches which is the second highest in history - not all at the same time though.  I think it topped out at about 8 at one time, granted it was all gone the next day...
12:56 jwagner I've lived in the DC area (off and on) for a good many years, and this winter was the most snow I can remember getting here.  It wasn't as much as an Indiana winter, but it was certainly impressive for this area.
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12:59 schuster In reading the page that was linked from Ireland I found this OPAC enhancement page -[…]_koha_opac_issues
12:59 schuster I think some of it has been done, but I don't know any of the people noted on the page...???
13:02 owen Until yesterday the last edit of that page was 2006-05-10
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13:04 hilongo Hello #koha! :)
13:05 owen schuster: Since Koha 3 was released in summer 2008 I think that wiki page needs some revision
13:07 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: around ?
13:07 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop
13:08 hdl_laptop hi
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13:10 hdl_laptop I am working on I have some background stuff going wrong and can't find what to set in order to fix that.
13:10 hdl_laptop any hint ?
13:10 hdl_laptop The problem is that the latest record is not processed.
13:11 hdl_laptop All records are BUT the latestone.
13:11 hdl_laptop I have seen many patches those days cool
13:12 hdl_laptop good.
13:13 chris_n g'morning #koha
13:14 hdl_laptop fredericd: will columns.def be integrated into po file ?
13:14 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: I'll give it a try over the weekend and see if I can figure something out
13:15 hdl_laptop or will it be changed into a yaml file so that prefs and columns.def could be in the same data structure ?
13:15 magnus what's all this about Ireland? feels like i'm missing something...
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13:51 kf have a nice weekend #koha
13:54 bigbrovar Hi guys I was wondering if its koha support barcode scanner in such a way that I scan a books barcodes and koha fetches all info about the book from the library of congress and the book can be added to the library database. can koha do this on the fly?
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14:01 owen bigbrovar: a barcode scanner is basically just a keyboard. It's an input device that sends characters to the computer
14:01 owen If you want Koha to do something for you, you have to write that into Koha
14:02 owen It would be interesting to set up a form where you could scan a book's UPC symbol and do an instant z39.50 search
14:02 owen You could even configure it to automatically pull the best match from a prioritized list of z39.50 sources
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14:36 cait hi #koha
14:36 jdavidb hi, cait! :)
14:37 cait :)
14:44 schuster owen - upc - most often now that is the 13 digit ISBN but if the Z server system doesn't do the automatic 10 to 13 conversion you don't get the recod.
14:45 schuster Prior to the work Plano ISD had done you had to search BOTH 10 and 13 in Koha to see if you had it.  Galen waved his magic wand so now when you search in Koha at least it does the conversion.
14:45 gmcharlt reminds me, I need to push my own patch to do that
14:45 schuster I don't know what happens if you did a Z39.50 search against koha...  hmmmm  May try that in the near future in my spare time.
14:45 owen Would that be a problem? If you're trying to grab a record based on the UPC you want to get a truly matching record. If a search didn't find anything based on the 13-digit isbn it wouldn't really match?
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14:47 schuster There are 10 and 13 digit equivalents.  The difference on the 13 is 978 at the beginning and the check digit 13th is different than the 10th digit on the 10 digit ISBN.
14:47 schuster ie 978123456789? and 123456789? - actually are the same ISBN the only difference is the last digit.
14:47 schuster ? being the check digit.
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14:48 schuster I believe that South Central was having some coding done to have Koha verify the check digit to make sure you have a "valid" isbn.
14:49 owen But if my copy of a book as a 13 digit UPC and your copy has the 10 digit UPC don't we have different versions of the book?
15:00 Colin owen: Not according to the isbn agency all 10 digit isbns have a 13 digit representation
15:00 owen I understand that
15:01 owen But if my book was *printed* with a 13-digit isbn, doesn't it differ from a book *printed* with a 10 digit one? New edition?
15:01 owen I'm just questioning whether one could assume it was an exact match
15:03 Colin A lot of books have the isbn added on a sticker it isn't at the edition level they differ but copy level
15:06 owen Okay, I just wanted to make sure I had it straight. Important to have one's facts straight when arguing about the functionality of a hypothetical future enhancement :)
15:08 collum A new ISBN is required for a revised edition.  But I'm not sure if it is for reprints.
15:10 Colin publishers practice differs (surprise!) Some of the big paperback publishers used to change isbns if they changed the cover
15:11 Colin I've seen others who think the same isbn is ok even if the change text, author and title!!
15:12 owen I can hear the irate patron now: "I wanted the one with the chick riding a dragon, not the one with the dude holding a sword!"
15:12 Colin its ok sir we've rebound them all in plain grey
15:14 jwagner Colin, not a brown paper wrapper?
15:15 gmcharlt and some (mostly small) publishers reused ISBNs
15:16 gmcharlt flaming death is too good for such incorrigibles
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16:08 wizzyrea hm, that was weird
16:09 wizzyrea ok, nm, just a fluke I guess
16:11 wizzyrea ...has that "forgive fines on return" always been there or is that new?
16:11 wizzyrea b/c I like!
16:12 owen On It's been there a while I think
16:14 wizzyrea on
16:14 wizzyrea actually
16:15 wizzyrea down by the renewal due date
16:15 wizzyrea why, oh why, can't there be a grooveshark iphone app.
16:16 wizzyrea I just found all this music I like, but can't buy it yet and I want to listen to it in the car but I can't. Wah.
16:16 jcamins Greetings, #koha
16:17 jcamins I'm sure this is a really easy question, but I am stumped: if you have made three changes to your local branch, and want to submit patches for the first two (since they're bug fixes), how do you do that?
16:17 wizzyrea good day :)
16:18 wizzyrea first:[…]lopment:git_usage
16:18 wizzyrea if that doesn't help I'm probably not the one to ask. ;)
16:19 Colin jcamins: are you wanting to do a format-patch?
16:19 jcamins Yeah, but only for the first two of three commits.
16:20 rhcl_away Hey, check this out. You can see my shirt and hands...
16:20 jcamins wizzyrea: I read that several times (it took me a while to understand it), but it seems to assume that everything you do is share-worthy
16:20 rhcl_away canx previous
16:23 Colin jcamins: you can specify a range of revisions format-patch revision1..revision2
16:24 jcamins And I would use the alphanumeric SHA1 ID for that revision1/revision2
16:25 jcamins Ah, yeah, that did it.
16:25 jcamins Thank you!
16:25 jcamins I was missing the two dots in between.
16:25 Colin they crop up in lots of handy git commands
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16:37 fredericd Does someone use Koha label creator?
16:37 fredericd I can't split call numbers
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16:46 chris_n fredericd: what version of Koha?
16:48 chris_n HEAD from a few weeks ago works ok here
16:49 fredericd chris_n: thanks. Yes, it works indeed. I just send a patch to handle properly UNIMARC item callnumber, like for MARC21
16:50 chris_n ahh... neat
16:50 chris_n nice catch on the misspelling of 'Labels' btw
16:51 fredericd chris_n: I like label creator module a LOT
16:53 wizzyrea it is really awesome. :)
16:53 wizzyrea much better than the old way, for sure
16:55 * chris_n hopes it gets a lot more use so we can make further improvements and features
16:59 fredericd chris_n: A good user oriented documentation would help to spread its use. Or a webcast on :)
17:00 chris_n nengard has done an excellent job of documenting the module
17:01 chris_n[…]-manual/?ch=x4155
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17:02 fredericd I agree
17:10 * chris_n thinks if he stood in front of a camera it might discourage people from using the module ;)
17:12 wizzyrea pft
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17:21 hdl_laptop fredericd: still around ?
17:25 fredericd more and less
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17:33 hdl_laptop fredericd: have you read my question about columns.def ?
17:34 fredericd No. Here?
17:38 hdl_laptop fredericd: yes here.
17:38 hdl_laptop I asked you what you intended to do with
17:38 hdl_laptop I asked you what you intended to do with columns.def
17:38 hdl_laptop Since at the moment it doesnot com into po file
17:39 hdl_laptop And i wondered whether we should stick to columns.def or chage that to YAML file. which could be translated the same way as pref files.
17:42 fredericd good question
17:42 fredericd it's doable but maybe not wishable
17:42 fredericd it would be a 3rd category of file to parse, install, etc.
17:42 wizzyrea how fun would it be to have an about page like this for the IRC regulars :) i4blnm5Yfolr
17:43 wizzyrea
17:43 wizzyrea there we go
17:43 fredericd i prefer :)
17:44 hdl_laptop fredericd: but then which structure for column.deg
17:44 hdl_laptop f
17:45 hdl_laptop could be like something we could use as a schema for an ORM
17:45 hdl_laptop But maybe it would be too much
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17:47 brendan morning #koha
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17:48 wizzyrea hey brendan
17:49 fredericd If it's for 3.4, it has to be coordinated with database abstration goal
17:49 fredericd which rely on a persistent execution environment?
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19:00 cait gmcharlt: around?
19:00 gmcharlt hi cait
19:00 cait hi :)
19:01 cait Im working on linking records by $w, I have a patch for the index and wanted to start work on xslt now. I saw 2 patches were send today that will change those files and fields.
19:02 cait is it better do include those changes first in my files?
19:03 gmcharlt you could apply those patches yourself and sign off on them, then resend them along with your own patches
19:03 gmcharlt otherwise, just make your changes and we'll see if there's actually a merge conflict
19:03 cait ok, is there a howto somewhere?
19:04 gmcharlt there are some hints at git am
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19:05 gmcharlt rather, at[…]pment:git_usage&s[]=git&s[]=apply#applying_patches
19:07 cait i think those patches are a good starting point for me, just was not sure how it could work out with git
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19:08 cait hm .mbox file... ok, I will eat something and figure that out later
19:09 brendan @wunder 93117
19:09 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1�C (11:50 AM PDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising).
19:18 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:18 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
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19:37 * chris pops in a for a sec while the kids are eating
19:37 brendan hi chris
19:38 brendan does New Zealand have any kind of daylight savings?
19:49 chris yep
19:49 chris_n based on cfouts announcement, it seems this would be a prime time for PTFS to turn back over to the community
19:49 chris it finished last weekend
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19:51 SJeffery We are having someone do a batch export of 30,000 records with the intention of loading them into Koha. Other than telling them that is needs to be in MARC21 format, is there anything additional format wise we should specify?
19:52 gmcharlt SJeffery: will you want to load items along with the bibs?
19:56 SJeffery Ouch, had not thought about that.
19:56 schuster What system are the "exporting" them out of?  You may have to "adjust" some of the item data to put them in the right tags before you load them.
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19:57 SJeffery The current idea is that our vendor for a program called STAR Libraries will do the export, and then have PTFS do the import, but I want to make sure the first vendor does what we need.
19:58 SJeffery I just checked our original quote and that is unclear whether it includes the item records.
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19:59 gmcharlt SJeffery: well, the first step is ensuring that one way or another that the extract from STAR includes as much item information as possible, either embedded in a MARC tag or a via a separate text of that can link back to the bibs via a reliable record control number
19:59 SJeffery The app we have now does not store anything in MARC format, so there is a conversion involved. I just want to make sure that the file they give us can be put straight into Koha.
20:00 gmcharlt that would mean embeding the items in 952s according to Koha's default MARC21 frameworks
20:01 SJeffery Embedding what in the 952's?
20:01 gmcharlt though that potentially touches on how much work the vendor doing the extract does vs how much the vendor doing the record import does, which I can't speak two
20:01 gmcharlt embedding item information - i.e., location, call number, barcode, etc.
20:02 SJeffery Is there a standard way to embed that info (such as subfields for barcodes)? Or does it all get sorted somehow on import?
20:03 gmcharlt SJeffery: the formatting is currently awful, but defaults can be  found at[…]-manual/?ch=a9489
20:04 SJeffery Oh my god
20:05 wizzyrea sorry, that' table is kind of broken at the moment
20:05 wizzyrea :(
20:05 gmcharlt SJeffery: this is a bit better[…]ion_for_vendors&s[]=embedded
20:06 SJeffery Ok, a tad better
20:06 SJeffery The migraine that was coming on disappeared
20:12 gmcharlt SJeffery: thanks to wizzyrea, there's now[…]ed-holdings-data/
20:12 gmcharlt wizzyrea++
20:12 wizzyrea refresh, it's even a bit better now
20:12 gmcharlt and again
20:12 gmcharlt wizzyrea++
20:13 wizzyrea *blush* ty ;)
20:14 cait wizzyrea++ :)
20:16 wizzyrea oh stop lol
20:16 wizzyrea ...but I did just fix the link on the index of the page to not point to the broken one >.>
20:17 gmcharlt wizzyrea++ # you're not making a very convincing argument for stopping, you know
20:17 SJeffery ok, great. I will pass that along to the vendor. Are those subfields part of MARC21?
20:18 gmcharlt not in the sense that they're standard MARC21 - no 9xx tag - but it will be consistent for Koha 3.0 and 3.2 installations
20:35 wizzyrea ok, there we go
20:35 wizzyrea I think it's a passable replacement for the broken table
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20:41 chris wizzyrea++
20:42 chris
20:42 chris everyone seen[…]ha-community-org/
20:45 wizzyrea "Yummy, like ircing on a cake! " cute
20:46 wizzyrea yea, I was wondering what people thought of that nifty bugzilla search page I did
20:48 chris i like it
20:48 wizzyrea hm, I should probably re-do that all open bugs query to not show enhancements
20:48 chris my sister is in washington dc today
20:49 wizzyrea !! cool :)
20:49 wizzyrea what for?
20:49 chris some medical conerence thing
20:50 chris shes a medical researcher, in public health, focussing mostly on the difference in outcomes
20:50 chris shes off to another one in london in a couple of days
20:51 wizzyrea Ooh
20:52 chris basically the govt hates her hehe
20:52 chris cos she points out things like maori are 3 times less likely to have breast cancer diagnosed, and once diagnoses 6 times less likely to receive effective treatment
20:53 chris shes there until tomorrow night us time
20:53 wizzyrea ouch
20:53 chris apparently its the cherry blossom festival?
20:54 wizzyrea oh right, because the cherry trees are blooming right now
20:54 wizzyrea we have some beautiful dogwood trees in lawrence right now
20:54 wizzyrea and the redbuds are blooming
20:54 wizzyrea <3 springtime
20:54 chris @wunder wellington, nz
20:54 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (8:00 AM NZST on April 10, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
20:54 wizzyrea brr-ish
20:54 chris getting cold here
20:54 chris autumn
20:54 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
20:54 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 23.2�C (3:56 PM CDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
20:55 wizzyrea :)
20:55 wizzyrea better than our -7 of only a few weeks back
20:55 chris_n wizzyrea++
20:55 chris yeah, single digits is cold for us
20:55 wizzyrea wow I am racking it up today
20:56 wizzyrea thanks guys :)
20:56 chris_n @karma wizzyrea
20:56 munin chris_n: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 80 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 80.
20:56 wizzyrea !!
20:56 * chris_n chants, "Go! Go!" :)
20:57 chris_n @wunder 28334
20:57 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 21.0�C (4:42 PM EDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
20:59 wizzyrea you know what
20:59 chris what?
20:59 wizzyrea actually, never mind
21:00 wizzyrea I think my thoughts would be unpopular, or at least heated discussion worthy
21:00 wizzyrea and I don't feel like fighting today :)
21:00 chris hehe
21:00 chris you cant do that
21:00 wizzyrea well I'm looking at the support page
21:01 wizzyrea and I want to take the stuff on the free support page and put it top level, just under pay for support
21:01 wizzyrea no reason to have to click through to free support
21:01 chris works for me
21:01 chris yup
21:01 wizzyrea unless you're a vendor running the site >.>
21:01 chris yeah well, that doesnt happen anymore
21:01 chris :)
21:02 chris i thought you were gonna ask someone to ask ptfs what they want to do with their 2 listings
21:02 chris seeings they are the same company now
21:02 gmcharlt wizzyrea: sounds perfectly fine to me
21:03 chris i dont think that anyone could think having the free stuff at the top could be a bad idea
21:03 chris actually i think it would be a good yardstick if they did :-)
21:03 wizzyrea
21:03 wizzyrea oh sec lemme clear the cache
21:03 chris switch them round?
21:04 wizzyrea done
21:05 chris nice
21:05 wizzyrea ah that makes my sense of harmony feel happier
21:07 wizzyrea oh speaking of harmony, has anybody looked at the 3.0 beta of wordpress? I have... it looks hawt.
21:10 chris yep
21:11 brendan @wunder 93117
21:11 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1�C (2:00 PM PDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling).
21:11 wizzyrea I'm super excited about it, love the new default theme
21:11 indradg_ @wunder kolkata
21:11 munin indradg_: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0�C (2:20 AM IST on April 10, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
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21:13 chris ok time to take the kids out before they destroy the house
21:13 chris have good weekends all
21:13 wizzyrea hehe!
21:13 wizzyrea later chris
21:19 cait good night all
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21:38 wizzyrea @karma
21:38 munin wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (119), "gmcharlt" (119), and "owen" (92).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23).  You (wizzyrea) are ranked 4 out of 761.
21:39 wizzyrea ooh tied for 1st gmcharlt ;)
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22:57 chris_n wizzyrea: nice change to support
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