Time  Nick       Message
01:56 chris      anyone heard of these guys before? http://oslo.ie/home
02:02 richard    nope. would they be one of the first irish koha developers?
02:03 chris      if they send a patch they would be :)
02:03 richard    :)
02:05 richard    looks like it's a pretty new site -> http://www.oslo.ie/forum/showthread.php?1-About-Koha
02:05 chris      yep
02:05 chris      i just stumbled on to it
02:44 chris_n    interesting
03:38 brendan    hi Amit_G
03:41 Amit_G     hyea brendan
04:04 Jo         Chris: you about?
04:06 brendan    hi Jo
04:12 Jo         hi Brendan
04:16 Amit_G     heya Jo
04:20 Jo         Hey Amit
04:29 brendan    Jo - congrats on the mover and shakers 2010
04:29 brendan    Jo++
04:32 Jo         oh thank you Brendan :)
04:44 brendan    @karma
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04:45 brendan    chris++
04:45 brendan    @karma
04:45 munin      brendan: Highest karma: "chris" (119), "gmcharlt" (119), and "owen" (92).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23).  You (brendan) are ranked 20 out of 761.
04:45 brendan    nice I like ties at the top
05:15 chris_n    @wunder 28334
05:15 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 19.1�C (1:16 AM EDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling).
05:27 brendan    hiya chris_n
05:27 brendan    how goes the battle
05:30 chris_n    I'm just about overcome with sleep :)
05:30 chris_n    DBIC whipped up on me good today
05:31 * chris_n  considered throwing it out altogether, but finally go the best of it
05:46 Amit_G     heya chris_n
05:50 Amit_G     heya nicomo
05:57 nicomo     HI Amit_G
05:57 nicomo     hello #koha
06:16 Amit_G     @wunder Delhi
06:16 munin      Amit_G: Error: No such location could be found.
06:17 Amit_G     @wunder New Delhi
06:17 munin      Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 37.0�C (11:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
06:17 Amit_G     @wunder Dehradun
06:17 munin      Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 24.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1008 hPa.
06:17 Amit_G     @wunder Bangalore
06:17 munin      Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 27.0�C (8:30 AM IST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 21.0�C.
07:11 kf         good morning #koha
07:11 Amit_G     heya kf
07:12 kf         hi Amit_G
08:03 hdl_laptop hi all
08:11 kf         hi hdl_laptop
08:12 hdl_laptop hi kf
08:12 hdl_laptop Welcom to the magic world....
08:13 hdl_laptop I really would have liked to be able to explain what you did right to get your results, but I am not on your compter :P
08:14 magnus     g'day #koha
08:15 kf         hdl_laptop: my index problem?
08:15 kf         hdl_laptop: im not sure it made the difference, but I added my indexed to getIndexes() in Search pm too
08:15 hdl_laptop hi magnus
08:16 magnus     hi hdl_laptop
08:16 hdl_laptop kf oh.... bloody hell. We should get that from files or make that come into database.
08:35 kf         hdl_laptop: yes, thats what I thoght when I found it
08:35 kf         hdl_laptop: did a grep on Control-number when I got really frustrated :)
11:35 miguel     hi all
11:37 magnus     hi miguel
11:43 miguel     I was talking to Chirs, on the grounds of Perl template toolkit integration
11:44 miguel     he told me that was not planned to include multilanguage in this development
11:44 miguel     I think we could use it to avoid having to maintain different templates.
11:44 miguel     do you think about?
11:58 hdl_laptop hi magnus hi miguel
11:58 magnus     hi hdl_laptop
12:12 jdavidb    :)  Hi, #koha.
12:14 * jdavidb  waves to owen
12:17 owen       Hi everyone
12:17 jwagner    G'morning, all
12:20 schuster   Howdy all!
12:20 jdavidb    hi, schuster! :)
12:20 schuster   wizzyrea you hear or is that a phantom?
12:21 schuster   I just read this from the Ireland website and had to chuckle - Northeast Kansas Library System has 116 branches and over 2 million records.
12:21 schuster   Not sure there are that many libraries in Kansas.... ;)
12:22 jwagner    schuster, are you trying to pick a fight this early in the morning :-)
12:22 schuster   I have 67 libraries so I'm big, but I do know that "The bigger you are the harder you fall" and being short I can attest to that!
12:24 * jwagner  has the bruises to prove it, too....
12:24 schuster   Busy week next week we have TLA(Texas Library Association Conference) probably 8,000 crazy librarians in San Antonio along the river walk all drinking lemonade ;)
12:24 jdavidb    Dunno where they got those numbers; both are inflated about sixfold over what I know about.
12:24 * jwagner  doesn't believe the part about all drinking lemonade
12:24 schuster   Presenting on a panel discussion with the NTRL(North Texas Regional Library System Evergreen Consortium)
12:25 schuster   shhhh don't tell my boss we do something else ;)
12:25 jdavidb    8,000 crazy librarians--is the "crazy" part mostly because *most* of the ones that go to TLA are K-12 folks, schuster?
12:25 * collum   remembers when Plano was in the sticks, and the only reason to go there was to buy beer, because Richardson was dry.
12:25 schuster   Hey - who said librarians can't let their hair down?
12:26 jwagner    There's a reason I don't go to ALA....
12:26 schuster   collum - You should see Frisco!  I live there and we hit 100,000 people can't wait to see what the census does this year.
12:26 jdavidb    All ten of us who showed up at the Automation & Technology Roundtable meeting used to giggle about that...
12:26 schuster   jwagner what no lemonade?
12:26 collum     Wow!  That's where we went to the sticks to see the Drive-in movie.
12:27 jwagner    schuster, let's just say I've been to enough library conferences to SERIOUSLY doubt the lemonade story.
12:27 schuster   We moved there 12 years ago with about 20,000 people and dirt roads...  We've grown quite fast.  Now Prosper and Celina are the places to move...  We'll be OK before you know it.
12:27 collum     Don't you need a passport to cross the Red River?
12:27 schuster   jwagner HA!!!...  I'll be at ALA in DC!  My whole family is coming...
12:28 schuster   Won't be long and we will annex OK.
12:28 schuster   Since half of Dallas is from OK anyway...
12:28 jwagner    schuster, we'll have to get together then.  Maybe for some lemonade :-)
12:28 jdavidb    schuster:  When I was in high school, our football team (2A) played Southlake-Carroll for bi-district...  Two years ago, my daughter's high school football team (5A) beat Southlake-Carroll in regional playoffs..
12:29 schuster   Still working out what I'm doing there but if you can get in that would be great, my wife would love to share lemonade.
12:30 schuster   I keep wondering where all these people are working...  But I'm happy to have a job - I noticed about 5 houses in my neighborhood that are in foreclosure.
12:30 schuster   collum where do you reside currently?
12:31 schuster   I'm working with KUDOS to arrange a meeting for KUDOS and it was suggested that maybe the different companies would want to have a meeting right after with some clients?  Do you know if PTFS has arranged and "official" meetings with clients at ALA?
12:32 jwagner    schuster, don't know about a client meeting but if that's what LL used to do, then probably.  You could check with Patrick on that.
12:32 collum     schuster: I moved to Northern KY from Houston about 7 years ago.
12:34 schuster   collum - wow that would be quite the culture shock...  But I hear it is quite pretty there.
12:34 schuster   jwagner - thanks will do.
12:35 collum     It's gorgeous and I don't miss the commute at all.
12:42 schuster   or the humidity or allergies probably!
12:42 schuster   They were saying on the radio this morning that the pollin count is over 5000 when normally 90 is high.
12:43 collum     I do have my allergies.  I don't miss the heat, humidity, roaches, and scorpions.  We do have more spiders here than I have ever seen.
12:45 collum     And I actually saw more than 9 inches of snow for the first time in my life.  But Dallas seemed to have more than that this year.
12:55 schuster   I think I heard we had a total of 12 inches which is the second highest in history - not all at the same time though.  I think it topped out at about 8 at one time, granted it was all gone the next day...
12:56 jwagner    I've lived in the DC area (off and on) for a good many years, and this winter was the most snow I can remember getting here.  It wasn't as much as an Indiana winter, but it was certainly impressive for this area.
12:59 schuster   In reading the page that was linked from Ireland I found this OPAC enhancement page - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=future_koha_opac_issues
12:59 schuster   I think some of it has been done, but I don't know any of the people noted on the page...???
13:02 owen       Until yesterday the last edit of that page was 2006-05-10
13:04 hilongo    Hello #koha! :)
13:05 owen       schuster: Since Koha 3 was released in summer 2008 I think that wiki page needs some revision
13:07 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: around ?
13:07 gmcharlt   hi hdl_laptop
13:08 hdl_laptop hi
13:10 hdl_laptop I am working on batchMod.pl. I have some background stuff going wrong and can't find what to set in order to fix that.
13:10 hdl_laptop any hint ?
13:10 hdl_laptop The problem is that the latest record is not processed.
13:11 hdl_laptop All records are BUT the latestone.
13:11 hdl_laptop I have seen many patches those days cool
13:12 hdl_laptop good.
13:13 chris_n    g'morning #koha
13:14 hdl_laptop fredericd: will columns.def be integrated into po file ?
13:14 gmcharlt   hdl_laptop: I'll give it a try over the weekend and see if I can figure something out
13:15 hdl_laptop or will it be changed into a yaml file so that prefs and columns.def could be in the same data structure ?
13:15 magnus     what's all this about Ireland? feels like i'm missing something...
13:51 kf         have a nice weekend #koha
13:54 bigbrovar  Hi guys I was wondering if its koha support barcode scanner in such a way that I scan a books barcodes and koha fetches all info about the book from the library of congress and the book can be added to the library database. can koha do this on the fly?
14:01 owen       bigbrovar: a barcode scanner is basically just a keyboard. It's an input device that sends characters to the computer
14:01 owen       If you want Koha to do something for you, you have to write that into Koha
14:02 owen       It would be interesting to set up a form where you could scan a book's UPC symbol and do an instant z39.50 search
14:02 owen       You could even configure it to automatically pull the best match from a prioritized list of z39.50 sources
14:36 cait       hi #koha
14:36 jdavidb    hi, cait! :)
14:37 cait       :)
14:44 schuster   owen - upc - most often now that is the 13 digit ISBN but if the Z server system doesn't do the automatic 10 to 13 conversion you don't get the recod.
14:45 schuster   Prior to the work Plano ISD had done you had to search BOTH 10 and 13 in Koha to see if you had it.  Galen waved his magic wand so now when you search in Koha at least it does the conversion.
14:45 gmcharlt   reminds me, I need to push my own patch to do that
14:45 schuster   I don't know what happens if you did a Z39.50 search against koha...  hmmmm  May try that in the near future in my spare time.
14:45 owen       Would that be a problem? If you're trying to grab a record based on the UPC you want to get a truly matching record. If a search didn't find anything based on the 13-digit isbn it wouldn't really match?
14:47 schuster   There are 10 and 13 digit equivalents.  The difference on the 13 is 978 at the beginning and the check digit 13th is different than the 10th digit on the 10 digit ISBN.
14:47 schuster   ie 978123456789? and 123456789? - actually are the same ISBN the only difference is the last digit.
14:47 schuster   ? being the check digit.
14:48 schuster   I believe that South Central was having some coding done to have Koha verify the check digit to make sure you have a "valid" isbn.
14:49 owen       But if my copy of a book as a 13 digit UPC and your copy has the 10 digit UPC don't we have different versions of the book?
15:00 Colin      owen: Not according to the isbn agency all 10 digit isbns have a 13 digit representation
15:00 owen       I understand that
15:01 owen       But if my book was *printed* with a 13-digit isbn, doesn't it differ from a book *printed* with a 10 digit one? New edition?
15:01 owen       I'm just questioning whether one could assume it was an exact match
15:03 Colin      A lot of books have the isbn added on a sticker it isn't at the edition level they differ but copy level
15:06 owen       Okay, I just wanted to make sure I had it straight. Important to have one's facts straight when arguing about the functionality of a hypothetical future enhancement :)
15:08 collum     A new ISBN is required for a revised edition.  But I'm not sure if it is for reprints.
15:10 Colin      publishers practice differs (surprise!) Some of the big paperback publishers used to change isbns if they changed the cover
15:11 Colin      I've seen others who think the same isbn is ok even if the change text, author and title!!
15:12 owen       I can hear the irate patron now: "I wanted the one with the chick riding a dragon, not the one with the dude holding a sword!"
15:12 Colin      its ok sir we've rebound them all in plain grey
15:14 jwagner    Colin, not a brown paper wrapper?
15:15 gmcharlt   and some (mostly small) publishers reused ISBNs
15:16 gmcharlt   flaming death is too good for such incorrigibles
16:08 wizzyrea   hm, that was weird
16:09 wizzyrea   ok, nm, just a fluke I guess
16:11 wizzyrea   ...has that "forgive fines on return" always been there or is that new?
16:11 wizzyrea   b/c I like!
16:12 owen       On returns.pl? It's been there a while I think
16:14 wizzyrea   on circulation.pl
16:14 wizzyrea   actually
16:15 wizzyrea   down by the renewal due date
16:15 wizzyrea   why, oh why, can't there be a grooveshark iphone app.
16:16 wizzyrea   I just found all this music I like, but can't buy it yet and I want to listen to it in the car but I can't. Wah.
16:16 jcamins    Greetings, #koha
16:17 jcamins    I'm sure this is a really easy question, but I am stumped: if you have made three changes to your local branch, and want to submit patches for the first two (since they're bug fixes), how do you do that?
16:17 wizzyrea   good day :)
16:18 wizzyrea   first: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
16:18 wizzyrea   if that doesn't help I'm probably not the one to ask. ;)
16:19 Colin      jcamins: are you wanting to do a format-patch?
16:19 jcamins    Yeah, but only for the first two of three commits.
16:20 rhcl_away  Hey, check this out. You can see my shirt and hands...
16:20 jcamins    wizzyrea: I read that several times (it took me a while to understand it), but it seems to assume that everything you do is share-worthy
16:20 rhcl_away  canx previous
16:23 Colin      jcamins: you can specify a range of revisions format-patch revision1..revision2
16:24 jcamins    And I would use the alphanumeric SHA1 ID for that revision1/revision2
16:25 jcamins    Ah, yeah, that did it.
16:25 jcamins    Thank you!
16:25 jcamins    I was missing the two dots in between.
16:25 Colin      they crop up in lots of handy git commands
16:37 fredericd  Does someone use Koha label creator?
16:37 fredericd  I can't split call numbers
16:46 chris_n    fredericd: what version of Koha?
16:48 chris_n    HEAD from a few weeks ago works ok here
16:49 fredericd  chris_n: thanks. Yes, it works indeed. I just send a patch to handle properly UNIMARC item callnumber, like for MARC21
16:50 chris_n    ahh... neat
16:50 chris_n    nice catch on the misspelling of 'Labels' btw
16:51 fredericd  chris_n: I like label creator module a LOT
16:53 wizzyrea   it is really awesome. :)
16:53 wizzyrea   much better than the old way, for sure
16:55 * chris_n  hopes it gets a lot more use so we can make further improvements and features
16:59 fredericd  chris_n: A good user oriented documentation would help to spread its use. Or a webcast on koha-community.org :)
17:00 chris_n    nengard has done an excellent job of documenting the module
17:01 chris_n    http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x4155
17:02 fredericd  I agree
17:10 * chris_n  thinks if he stood in front of a camera it might discourage people from using the module ;)
17:12 wizzyrea   pft
17:21 hdl_laptop fredericd: still around ?
17:25 fredericd  more and less
17:33 hdl_laptop fredericd: have you read my question about columns.def ?
17:34 fredericd  No. Here?
17:38 hdl_laptop fredericd: yes here.
17:38 hdl_laptop I asked you what you intended to do with columns.dev
17:38 hdl_laptop I asked you what you intended to do with columns.def
17:38 hdl_laptop Since at the moment it doesnot com into po file
17:39 hdl_laptop And i wondered whether we should stick to columns.def or chage that to YAML file. which could be translated the same way as pref files.
17:42 fredericd  good question
17:42 fredericd  it's doable but maybe not wishable
17:42 fredericd  it would be a 3rd category of file to parse, install, etc.
17:42 wizzyrea   how fun would it be to have an about page like this for the IRC regulars :) i4blnm5Yfolr
17:43 wizzyrea   http://www.linuxmint.com/about.php
17:43 wizzyrea   there we go
17:43 fredericd  i prefer :)
17:44 hdl_laptop fredericd: but then which structure for column.deg
17:44 hdl_laptop f
17:45 hdl_laptop could be like something we could use as a schema for an ORM
17:45 hdl_laptop But maybe it would be too much
17:47 brendan    morning #koha
17:48 wizzyrea   hey brendan
17:49 fredericd  If it's for 3.4, it has to be coordinated with database abstration goal
17:49 fredericd  which rely on a persistent execution environment?
19:00 cait       gmcharlt: around?
19:00 gmcharlt   hi cait
19:00 cait       hi :)
19:01 cait       Im working on linking records by $w, I have a patch for the index and wanted to start work on xslt now. I saw 2 patches were send today that will change those files and fields.
19:02 cait       is it better do include those changes first in my files?
19:03 gmcharlt   you could apply those patches yourself and sign off on them, then resend them along with your own patches
19:03 gmcharlt   otherwise, just make your changes and we'll see if there's actually a merge conflict
19:03 cait       ok, is there a howto somewhere?
19:04 gmcharlt   there are some hints at git am
19:05 gmcharlt   rather, at http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage&s[]=git&s[]=apply#applying_patches
19:07 cait       i think those patches are a good starting point for me, just was not sure how it could work out with git
19:08 cait       hm .mbox file... ok, I will eat something and figure that out later
19:09 brendan    @wunder 93117
19:09 munin      brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1�C (11:50 AM PDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising).
19:18 cait       @wunder Konstanz
19:18 munin      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
19:37 * chris    pops in a for a sec while the kids are eating
19:37 brendan    hi chris
19:38 brendan    does New Zealand have any kind of daylight savings?
19:49 chris      yep
19:49 chris_n    based on cfouts announcement, it seems this would be a prime time for PTFS to turn koha.org back over to the community
19:49 chris      it finished last weekend
19:49 * chris_n  does *not* hold his breath
19:51 SJeffery   We are having someone do a batch export of 30,000 records with the intention of loading them into Koha. Other than telling them that is needs to be in MARC21 format, is there anything additional format wise we should specify?
19:52 gmcharlt   SJeffery: will you want to load items along with the bibs?
19:56 SJeffery   Ouch, had not thought about that.
19:56 schuster   What system are the "exporting" them out of?  You may have to "adjust" some of the item data to put them in the right tags before you load them.
19:57 SJeffery   The current idea is that our vendor for a program called STAR Libraries will do the export, and then have PTFS do the import, but I want to make sure the first vendor does what we need.
19:58 SJeffery   I just checked our original quote and that is unclear whether it includes the item records.
19:59 gmcharlt   SJeffery: well, the first step is ensuring that one way or another that the extract from STAR includes as much item information as possible, either embedded in a MARC tag or a via a separate text of that can link back to the bibs via a reliable record control number
19:59 SJeffery   The app we have now does not store anything in MARC format, so there is a conversion involved. I just want to make sure that the file they give us can be put straight into Koha.
20:00 gmcharlt   that would mean embeding the items in 952s according to Koha's default MARC21 frameworks
20:01 SJeffery   Embedding what in the 952's?
20:01 gmcharlt   though that potentially touches on how much work the vendor doing the extract does vs how much the vendor doing the record import does, which I can't speak two
20:01 gmcharlt   embedding item information - i.e., location, call number, barcode, etc.
20:02 SJeffery   Is there a standard way to embed that info (such as subfields for barcodes)? Or does it all get sorted somehow on import?
20:03 gmcharlt   SJeffery: the formatting is currently awful, but defaults can be  found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=a9489
20:04 SJeffery   Oh my god
20:05 wizzyrea   sorry, that' table is kind of broken at the moment
20:05 wizzyrea   :(
20:05 gmcharlt   SJeffery: this is a bit better http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:documentation:marc21holdings_holdings_data_information_for_vendors&s[]=embedded
20:06 SJeffery   Ok, a tad better
20:06 SJeffery   The migraine that was coming on disappeared
20:12 gmcharlt   SJeffery: thanks to wizzyrea, there's now http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/appendix-g-koha-embedded-holdings-data/
20:12 gmcharlt   wizzyrea++
20:12 wizzyrea   refresh, it's even a bit better now
20:12 gmcharlt   and again
20:12 gmcharlt   wizzyrea++
20:13 wizzyrea   *blush* ty ;)
20:14 cait       wizzyrea++ :)
20:16 wizzyrea   oh stop lol
20:16 wizzyrea   ...but I did just fix the link on the index of the page to not point to the broken one >.>
20:17 gmcharlt   wizzyrea++ # you're not making a very convincing argument for stopping, you know
20:17 SJeffery   ok, great. I will pass that along to the vendor. Are those subfields part of MARC21?
20:18 gmcharlt   not in the sense that they're standard MARC21 - no 9xx tag - but it will be consistent for Koha 3.0 and 3.2 installations
20:35 wizzyrea   ok, there we go
20:35 wizzyrea   I think it's a passable replacement for the broken table
20:41 chris      wizzyrea++
20:42 chris      koha-community.org++
20:42 chris      everyone seen http://koha-community.org/new-features-of-koha-community-org/
20:45 wizzyrea   "Yummy, like ircing on a cake! " cute
20:46 wizzyrea   yea, I was wondering what people thought of that nifty bugzilla search page I did
20:48 chris      i like it
20:48 wizzyrea   hm, I should probably re-do that all open bugs query to not show enhancements
20:48 chris      my sister is in washington dc today
20:49 wizzyrea   !! cool :)
20:49 wizzyrea   what for?
20:49 chris      some medical conerence thing
20:50 chris      shes a medical researcher, in public health, focussing mostly on the difference in outcomes
20:50 chris      shes off to another one in london in a couple of days
20:51 wizzyrea   Ooh
20:52 chris      basically the govt hates her hehe
20:52 chris      cos she points out things like maori are 3 times less likely to have breast cancer diagnosed, and once diagnoses 6 times less likely to receive effective treatment
20:53 chris      shes there until tomorrow night us time
20:53 wizzyrea   ouch
20:53 chris      apparently its the cherry blossom festival?
20:54 wizzyrea   oh right, because the cherry trees are blooming right now
20:54 wizzyrea   we have some beautiful dogwood trees in lawrence right now
20:54 wizzyrea   and the redbuds are blooming
20:54 wizzyrea   <3 springtime
20:54 chris      @wunder wellington, nz
20:54 munin      chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (8:00 AM NZST on April 10, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
20:54 wizzyrea   brr-ish
20:54 chris      getting cold here
20:54 chris      autumn
20:54 wizzyrea   @wunder lawrence, ks
20:54 munin      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 23.2�C (3:56 PM CDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
20:55 wizzyrea   :)
20:55 wizzyrea   better than our -7 of only a few weeks back
20:55 chris_n    wizzyrea++
20:55 chris      yeah, single digits is cold for us
20:55 wizzyrea   wow I am racking it up today
20:56 wizzyrea   thanks guys :)
20:56 chris_n    @karma wizzyrea
20:56 munin      chris_n: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 80 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 80.
20:56 wizzyrea   !!
20:56 * chris_n  chants, "Go! Go!" :)
20:57 chris_n    @wunder 28334
20:57 munin      chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 21.0�C (4:42 PM EDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
20:59 wizzyrea   you know what
20:59 chris      what?
20:59 wizzyrea   actually, never mind
21:00 wizzyrea   I think my thoughts would be unpopular, or at least heated discussion worthy
21:00 wizzyrea   and I don't feel like fighting today :)
21:00 chris      hehe
21:00 chris      you cant do that
21:00 wizzyrea   well I'm looking at the support page
21:01 wizzyrea   and I want to take the stuff on the free support page and put it top level, just under pay for support
21:01 wizzyrea   no reason to have to click through to free support
21:01 chris      works for me
21:01 chris      yup
21:01 wizzyrea   unless you're a vendor running the site >.>
21:01 chris      yeah well, that doesnt happen anymore
21:01 chris      :)
21:02 chris      i thought you were gonna ask someone to ask ptfs what they want to do with their 2 listings
21:02 chris      seeings they are the same company now
21:02 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: sounds perfectly fine to me
21:03 chris      i dont think that anyone could think having the free stuff at the top could be a bad idea
21:03 chris      actually i think it would be a good yardstick if they did :-)
21:03 wizzyrea   http://koha-community.org/support/
21:03 wizzyrea   oh sec lemme clear the cache
21:03 chris      switch them round?
21:04 wizzyrea   done
21:05 chris      nice
21:05 wizzyrea   ah that makes my sense of harmony feel happier
21:07 wizzyrea   oh speaking of harmony, has anybody looked at the 3.0 beta of wordpress? I have... it looks hawt.
21:10 chris      yep
21:11 brendan    @wunder 93117
21:11 munin      brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1�C (2:00 PM PDT on April 09, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling).
21:11 wizzyrea   I'm super excited about it, love the new default theme
21:11 indradg_   @wunder kolkata
21:11 munin      indradg_: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0�C (2:20 AM IST on April 10, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
21:13 chris      ok time to take the kids out before they destroy the house
21:13 chris      have good weekends all
21:13 wizzyrea   hehe!
21:13 wizzyrea   later chris
21:19 cait       good night all
21:38 wizzyrea   @karma
21:38 munin      wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (119), "gmcharlt" (119), and "owen" (92).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-51), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23).  You (wizzyrea) are ranked 4 out of 761.
21:39 wizzyrea   ooh tied for 1st gmcharlt ;)
22:57 chris_n    wizzyrea: nice change to support