IRC log for #koha, 2023-10-09

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05:49 asif hello, Hello anyone can guide me on how to bring book physical location in OPAC and how to change the material type as book not as text thank you for your reply in advance
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06:03 reiveune hello
06:05 asif hi anyone can help me please
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07:02 Zahid[m] Hi, Morning
07:04 Zahid[m] can anyone guide the process of fines in koha 22.11 version.... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]GrPZenYgRRCFATGfr>)
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07:43 MartinWitjens[m] Help, in Dutch we have names like: Martin van der Berg. Berg is the surname, Martin is the firstname. How can I add a field for 'van der' in Koha?
08:05 paulderscheid[m] Isn't it common practice in RDA that the 'van der' is part of the last name?
08:08 ashimema Maybe wait for marcelr to appear, he's likely dealt with this before.
08:08 ashimema Marcel is based in Amsterdam I believe Martin Witjens:
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09:29 cait good morning #koha
09:37 Zahid[m] our library wants to implement fines in koha 22.11,... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]CSZGvfRGrkzUbipZM>)
09:37 puphaus[m] Good Morning togehter :)
09:38 puphaus[m] s/togehter/together/
10:07 krimsonkharne[m] morning #koha
10:12 krimsonkharne[m] Zahid: do you mean overdue fines? currently I don't think it's possible to declare different fine amounts depending on overdue periods in the circulation rules
10:12 krimsonkharne[m] though I'm no expert
10:14 krimsonkharne[m] so you could set it up so that there's a grace period of 30 days before the first fine is charged and then charge 3 dollars/rupees daily after those 30 days are over, but you would be missing the first 1 dollar/rupee for the first 30 days
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10:18 krimsonkharne[m] asif: In Koha, the shelving location is often found in MARC field 952$c - Shelving Location. You can define shelving locations in the authorized value "LOC". Not sure if that's exactly what you mean but hope it helps!
10:21 cait krimsonkharne++ :)
10:21 oleonard Hi #koha
10:21 cait and hi all
10:24 krimsonkharne[m] yay karma :)
11:04 oleonard cait++
11:04 oleonard Thanks for the QA :)
11:21 tcohen[m] hola #koha o/
11:21 tcohen[m] no laters, is that good? haha
11:23 cait oleonard: you are welcome
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11:31 Zahid[m] <krimsonkharne[m]> "so you could set it up so that..." <- yes i am talking about overdue fines. can it be possible for overdue charge 1 dollar for 30 days then after 30 days it charges 3 dollars daily? if i forget the first 1 dollar charge can it be possible?
11:32 Zahid[m] how it can work?
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11:43 Zahid[m] if i spin my question
11:43 Zahid[m] can it be possible that koha does not calculate the overdue fine for first 30 days
11:43 Zahid[m] then after 30 days it calculate the charges 3 dollars daily?
11:48 krimsonkharne[m] Zahid: Yes, that's possible! In that case you can set it up in the circulation rules (Administration -> Circulation and Fine Rules) using the field "Fine/suspension grace period". Then you would have a grace period of 30 days. And then 3 dollars as the amount and fine charging interval would be 1 day (if your unit field is set to "Days").
11:50 krimsonkharne[m] For more information: https://koha-community.org/man[…]n-and-fines-rules
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11:54 Zahid[m] so i add 30 days in Fine/suspension grace period box in circulation and fines rules page it does not calculate after 30 days it will be calculating fines daily
11:55 Zahid[m] will it work?
11:56 Zahid[m] <krimsonkharne[m]> "For more information: https://..." <- i shall read the documentation first then if i have question i shall ask you
12:29 krimsonkharne[m] OK!
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13:57 tcohen[m] Everytime I wake up there's 40 more things in PQA
13:57 cait sorry not sorry ;)
13:57 tcohen[m] people, take a day off please
13:57 tcohen[m] haha
13:58 cait I would love to...
13:58 tcohen[m] More seriously, it is great to see that work. I hope I can manage the workload at good pace
13:59 cait there should be a lot of easy ones there - at least if you trust me, Caroline and oleonard-away ;)
13:59 cait a lot of those shoudl be GUI and the MARC update ones caroline did
13:59 cait caroline++
14:00 tcohen[m] yeah
14:00 tcohen[m] #koha has anyone been able to reproduce the selenium patron search failure locally? if so, please share some details
14:00 cait i haven't tried - which bug is it?
14:00 tcohen[m] https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/2673/
14:01 cait ah hm, but I need to reset to get selenium :( maybe not right now
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14:28 ashimema did we very recently change something in our flatpickr
14:28 cait we made dates editable int he OPAC
14:28 cait is the one that I can think of
14:28 cait what are you seeing?
14:29 cait oh and there was something about 23:59 when entering dates manually
14:29 ashimema ha.. that might be it
14:29 ashimema I just rebased bookings and now it's hugely broken
14:29 ashimema more than I've ever seen it break before
14:29 cait oh
14:30 oleonard :(
14:30 cait bug 34939
14:30 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34939 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to stable , When manually entering dates in flatPickr the hour and minute get set to 00:00 not 23:59
14:30 cait the change itself is not big
14:31 ashimema my tries reverting that to see if it's the culprit
14:32 ashimema yup
14:32 ashimema that's the culprit
14:32 ashimema thanks cait
14:32 ashimema now I can try to work out how the feck it does it
14:40 ashimema yikes
14:40 ashimema it doesn't just effect pickers with time elements
14:40 ashimema it affect ALL pickers
14:40 ashimema so all dates will now be 23:59
14:40 ashimema also.. I actually want 00:00 as my start for a full day
14:41 ashimema and 23:59 for the end of a full day
14:41 ashimema doh
14:43 cait ok, sorry for that one :( that is on me
14:43 cait but maybe caught it early at least
14:43 ashimema no worrie
14:43 ashimema it's a hidden one
14:43 ashimema we also hook on 00:00:00:00 for 'minDate' too
14:43 cait can we make it dependent on a class or so?
14:44 ashimema just trying to work that out
14:44 cait then we could mar the ones that deal with due dates
14:44 ashimema it's going to be really hard to come up with a test plan
14:48 ashimema Joubu around?
14:50 tcohen[m] hola ashimema
14:50 ashimema hi tochen
14:53 cait maybe we should revert for now
14:55 cait oleonard: I removed the Coce placeholder string,  did you see? I didn#t find it used and it looked like you had also wanted to remove it. Was there a reason you didn#t in the end?
14:56 oleonard No idea XD
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15:02 cait oleonard: that doesn't help my self doubts )
15:03 oleonard Luckily I have great confidence in you
15:03 cait can someone point me to where you can define alias for an index name with elastic?
15:05 cait oh, QueryBuilder?
15:05 cait I was hoping for a yaml file
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15:34 cait bye
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17:48 paulderscheid[m] Ahem, do we not normalise phone numbers before writing them to the db in koha? O.O
18:06 ashimema not that I know of
18:11 davidnind paulderscheid: some work was started on this with Bug 23817 - Normalize phone number when searching patrons, the initial focus was on entering the numbers in the UI
18:11 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23817 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Normalize phone number when searching patrons
18:13 paulderscheid[m] Thanks davidnind
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19:53 cait oleonard-away: is it me or is the paid transactions filter also broken in staff? :(
19:59 davidnind cait: can confirm that it is broken for me as well (added some manual charges, paid a couple of them, 'Filter paid transactions' doesn't do anything)
20:00 cait i have the ifx
20:00 cait i put it on bug 35015 too
20:00 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35015 major, P5 - low, ---, matt.blenkinsop, Passed QA , Regression: Charges table no longer filters out paid transactions
20:02 davidnind cait++
20:12 cait it helped to see MatthewBlenkinsop fix :) it was the same issue
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21:48 cait tcohen: follow-up on bug 34300 is ready
21:48 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wainuiwitikapark, Pushed to master , Add link to place a hold on ordered items in baskets
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