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@later tell oleonard If you figure out how to get your kids into Koha, be sure to share the secret |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
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Annelisterman[m] |
ashimema: Ok. It makes automatically a claim to a missing bundle item. That explains it. |
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good morning #koha |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
morning |
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morning PedroAmorim[m] |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Hi all |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Batch item modification is not working in GitHub. Please fix the issue |
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oleonard |
In GitHub? What does that mean? |
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tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
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ashimema |
morning tcohen |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
oleonard: https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Git installation doing. 21.05 working fine. After 21.11 koha batch items modification not working |
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oleonard |
In what way? |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
oleonard: Kohaclone |
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oleonard |
TriveniChandriki[m]: I don't have any special understanding of your problem, I'm just asking clarifying questions in case that helps someone else understand |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
oleonard: |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s_setup_correctly |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Koha-dev kohagit installation doing. |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Background job not working |
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tcohen |
TriveniChandriki[m]: you really need to provide more information |
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tcohen |
and I recommend you install Koha using the DEbian packages instead |
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tcohen |
for background jobs to run, you need to set the 'workers' |
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tcohen |
so batch operations won't work until the workers are running |
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tcohen |
The Debian packages set all the things for you |
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uploaded an image: (134KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]3723698464974.jpg > |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
We are doing in single server multiple instances and multiple kohaclone. Because we do development every client. |
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ashimema |
!DO NOT USE THESE INSTRUCTIONS ON A FORWARD BASIS! |
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mtj |
hi TriveniChandriki[m], if you are mixing koha versions - its expected that you *will* have problems with that setup |
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ashimema |
right at the top of that wiki page you point to |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Same version we are doing |
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ashimema |
those instructions have not been updated since 2013! |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
ashimema: Ya . Searched lot in Google and koha community |
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oleonard |
TriveniChandriki[m]: You seem to be rejecting a lot of good advice |
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ashimema |
you're welcome to try, but a lot has changed since 2013 and the recommended approaches all involved packages to keep things as simple as possible for end users.. the community doesn't have the people to maintain and support everything. |
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mtj |
TriveniChandriki[m]: you probably have some cut/paste typo in your setup |
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ashimema |
where is this development.. it's always good practice to try and contribute to the upstream project in open source.. |
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ashimema |
that way you don't have to keep maintaining your own customisation and then ask for help when they inevitably break |
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mtj |
TriveniChandriki[m]: remember that you have tested that problem is OK, on newer koha versions |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
mtj: Thanku so much ur help on fixing issue sip2. |
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mtj |
TriveniChandriki[m]: if you configure a working KTD koha - you can look at a working 'koha-gitify' system |
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mtj |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ha-testing-docker |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
I am trying this. Still facing issues |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Please help on this issue. Kindly requesting all |
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mtj |
TriveniChandriki[m]: ^^ tcohen mantioned that you might be missing 'worker' jobs for your koha instance |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
How to do this any steps |
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mtj |
$ KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/dev1/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/kohadevbox/koha \ |
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mtj |
perl /kohadevbox/koha/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl --queue long_tasks |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
ok i will try |
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mtj |
if you created a koha instance with 'koha-create', the worker jobs should be created corrected |
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"mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "worker jobs" (21 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/2002 |
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mtj |
TriveniChandriki[m]: ^^ |
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mtj |
/usr/bin/perl /kohadevbox/koha/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl --queue default |
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mtj |
/usr/bin/perl /kohadevbox/koha/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl --queue long_tasks |
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mtj |
hmm, you should have 2 worker jobs, per instance |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
export KOHA_CONF=/home/mapsystems/koha-devnew/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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export PERL5LIB=/home/mapsystems/kohaclonenew:/home/mapsystems/kohaclonenew/lib |
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perl /home/mapsystems/kohaclonenew/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl --queue long_tasks |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
perl /home/mapsystems/kohaclonenew/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl --queue default |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
this one working |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
thanku so much everyone |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
<mtj> "Triveni Chandriki: ^^" <- Great help sir. Thanku so much sir |
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mtj |
TriveniChandriki[m]: congrats 🐱 |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
mtj: Big thanku to u and everyone. |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Last one month i am trying to fix this issue . |
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magnuse__ |
oleonard around? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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magnuse__ |
oleonard: i was looking at bug 15640 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, CLOSED FIXED, Accessibility - ensure there are no titles on hover over the links (circ home page) |
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magnuse__ |
do you still think title attributes on links/buttons are a bad idea? |
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magnuse__ |
we have some rfps where that sort of thing is asked for quite specifically |
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oleonard |
In that particular bug the original problem was some links had titles an some didn't. The solution was to remove the title attributes because they didn't contribute important additional information |
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magnuse |
yeah, and i totally get that it only works for mice, not for touch etc |
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oleonard |
Contrast that with a situation where the interface element is an icon, for instance, with no associated text. |
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oleonard |
The title attribute can also be picked up by screen readers, so it has use beyond the mouse-hover case. |
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magnuse |
ah, true |
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magnuse |
so... are you saying it's more a question of we should do it everywhere or have some good guidelines on where to do it, not just sprinkle it around randomly? |
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oleonard |
In my opinion you should not need a title attribute in most cases because the link/button text should be sufficiently self-explanatory. |
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magnuse |
*nod* |
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oleonard |
It is hard to keep all the accessibility advice straight, though! |
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magnuse |
yeah, i know way too little about that area! |
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oleonard |
I'd be happy to help with specific examples, but generally I'm just Googling recently-authored recommendations. |
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magnuse |
no specific examples yet, just wanted to hear your thoughts :-) |
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cait1 |
oleonard: i think what you said makes sense, if that helps :) |
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cait1 |
always good to have a speaking button text and not to need a title too |
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emlam |
Morning everyone! |
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caroline |
good morning! |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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cait1 |
caroline: bug 33179 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33179 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow for libraries to automatically suppress a bibliographic record from OPAC if no items are attached |
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cait1 |
fits your recent question, I think |
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cait1 |
hi emlam :) |
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caroline |
kelly received my brainwave it seems XD |
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emlam |
hi cait! :) |
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thd |
Is this not the time of the developers' meeting scheduled to avoid international women's day? |
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thd |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_9_March_2023 |
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thd |
Maybe no reminder was sent for the unusual non-Wednesday scheduling. |
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oleonard |
i would appear so |
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oleonard |
*It* would appear so. |
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oleonard |
It's on the calendar and everything :D |
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cait1 |
oh yes |
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cait1 |
i had it on my calendar for 45 min ago too :( |
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cait1 |
and I even did my homework for this one |
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cait1 |
tuxayo: ? |
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cait1 |
bye all :) |
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emlam |
Anyone know if the mail system for the koha wiki ever got fixed? |
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emlam |
asking because I've been at the "confirm your email address" stage of account creation for a while :'-) |
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oleonard |
Sorry emlam I think at one time I had the right permission to help you but I don't seem to anymore |
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emlam |
alas |
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emlam |
thanks for trying! |
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davidnind |
emlam: email for the Wiki has been working for a while now - I don't see your account in the queues for me to confirm your account |
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davidnind |
emlam: I think your account is active (but I don't have enough permissions to confirm that), maybe try a password reset |
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emlam |
Hmmm...I've tried password reset, but haven't gotten an email from that either |
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emlam |
not even in spam folder |
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davidnind |
maybe check your spam folder (your account was created on 22 October 2022) |
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davidnind |
OK, I'll find out who can reset it for |
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oleonard |
davidnind: Does it show what the account's email address is? Could that be the mistake? |
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davidnind |
Just have to go out now, but will look at later this morning |
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emlam |
thank you! |
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emlam |
oleonard++ davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
emlam: userid is Emlam and email is emily.lamancusa AT montgomerycountymd.gov |
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emlam |
still nothing. I wonder if it's getting blocked by an organizational spam filter that's deleting it before it even makes it to my spam folder |
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emlam |
thanks for confirming that I'm inputting the right email address at least! |
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ashimema |
https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Emlam |
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ashimema |
It's that you? |
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emlam |
Yup! |
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ashimema |
> Only one password reset email will be sent per valid account every 0 hours |
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ashimema |
Interesting, that doesn't look right |
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ashimema |
That's display when I just tried to reset for you |
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emlam |
That's what I see when I try to reset my password too. I was assuming that was the default "don't use this feature" value and the message just wasn't coded with that case in mind, but perhaps that was not a good assumption... |
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caroline |
What do we think of the gif here? (bottom of the page) https://koha-community.org/man[…]tml#making-a-sale |
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ashimema |
tcohen, do you know what $wgPasswordReminderResendTime is set to on our mediawiki |
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ashimema |
Seems clear to me caroline |
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caroline |
So we should continue to add gifs in the manual? |
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caroline |
(I wanted to update it, but my gif maker doesn't work on ubuntu 22 anymore... it makes webm files |
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oleonard |
caroline: As long as their size isn't bogging things down I think it's a good idea |
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caroline |
I like animated gifs personally, sometimes it's clearer than just a picture |
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oleonard |
Could we use webm? https://caniuse.com/?search=webm |
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caroline |
not sure how it would translate since it's a video file and not an image |
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oleonard |
yeah probably making it too complicated |
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waves |
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cait |
I think a lot of people still print, maybe we need to make sure it's accessible in multiple ways (having a good writen description too) |
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caroline |
cait what would you change in the description in this case? |
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cait |
oh sorr,y I didn't look that closely |
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cait |
just mean we should not rely only on the picture in general or gif |
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caroline |
ok, I was just editing this part so I would have changed the description if it wasn't clear |
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cait |
checked now - it's super clear :) |
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caroline |
:) |
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thd |
ashimema: $wgPasswordReminderResendTime has not been included in Koha MediaWiki LocalSettings.php |
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thd |
ashimema: Consequently it must have some default value. |
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thd |
ashimema: Of course it could be added to LocalSettings.php |
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ashimema |
I don't know whether it's needed |
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ashimema |
Just felt odd to say 0 hours in the above message |
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thd |
If it has a function, it could be added and set to some useful value but maybe the default with no setting is fine. |
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caroline |
What is the purpose of the "Nobody" permission in lists? |
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caroline |
https://snipboard.io/7iK4gS.jpg |
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caroline |
I never understood it |
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thd |
When everyone is someone no one is anyone. |
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caroline |
reminds me of Who's on first |
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caroline |
follow up on my xml parser problem again... I didn't manage to fix it BUT I did a batchRebuildItemsTable in another context and it fixed the invalid characters and now everything works! |
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caroline |
the rebuild did cause a gazillion background jobs to be created though which was not cool... |
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fridolin |
hello |
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caroline |
no yellow today? Are you feeling ok? |
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fridolin |
yeyyy |
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fridolin |
caroline: I dont feel blue no worries :D |
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fridolin |
I was hoping for a bot to reply |
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caroline |
oh yeah, I think they are on vacation |
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fridolin |
good for server load ;) |