IRC log for #koha, 2022-10-17

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05:58 reiveune hello
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07:32 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
07:38 cait1 good morning #koha
09:16 ashimema mrning
09:43 cait1 morning
09:43 cait1 just the 2 people I need... can I add IRC to a locally installed element client?
09:44 ashimema yes
09:44 cait1 i am not seeing how to add anything... yet
09:44 ashimema https://matrix.to/#/#koha-community:matrix.org
09:44 ashimema that's the Koha 'space'
09:45 ashimema it includes all the koha irc channels
09:45 ashimema should be as simple as clicking the link and letting it open in your desktop element
09:46 cait1 hm maybe it doesn't work with the matrix server we are using
09:47 cait1 it says cannot access
09:47 ashimema ah, what server are you on..
09:47 cait1 it's hosted by a partner institution
09:47 ashimema I only ever really looked at the main public one
09:48 cait1 but was worth trying
09:48 cait1 thx!
09:49 ashimema I'm haven't entirely groked how federation works in Matrix land as yet.
09:51 ashimema do they have an irc bridge on their synapse server?
09:51 ashimema if they do, you could bridge yourself I think
09:52 cait1 I don't know
09:54 ashimema or the synapse's need to be federated
09:54 ashimema https://matrix-org.github.io/s[…]est/federate.html
09:54 ashimema seems element can't do multiple homeservers... which is sorta annoying.
09:55 cait1 agreed
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10:33 tcohen hola #koha
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10:53 cait1 does omeone know if you can add patron attributes as search options to the patron search?
10:56 oleonard Hi cait1
10:56 cait1 hi oleonard :)
10:56 oleonard "Check to make this attribute staff_searchable in the staff patron search" certainly seems to imply you can
10:56 oleonard Also that is not a good sentence.
10:57 oleonard "make it staff_searchable?"
10:57 cait1 yeah, you can search it within Standard then
10:57 cait1 I was wondering if it could be added to the pull down as well
10:59 cait1 I see DefaultPatronSearchFields but thought we had one for the pull down too hm
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11:00 marcelr o/
11:01 marcelr oleonard: please check bug 31842
11:01 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31842 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , admin/branches: DT search generates js error on col.data.split
11:01 oleonard Yes, it's on my list marcelr. Thanks for working on it.
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11:41 marcelr tcohen++
11:56 cait1 what did he do? tcohen++ :D
12:28 marcelr what doesnt he do?
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14:15 lukeg hi
14:16 caroline hi lukeg!
14:29 * cait1 waves
14:36 oleonard @seen liliputech
14:36 huginn` oleonard: liliputech was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 34 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <liliputech> thx ashimema
14:36 oleonard Hm.
14:36 ashimema hi
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15:48 oleonard Hi schnydszch
15:55 ashimema what do you think about my thoughts on Pills vs Tabs.. about embedding the tabs in a card-header along the lines of bootstrap?
15:56 ashimema it it achievable.. I had a go but wasn't sure how best to approach it in the end.. more markup or altering css..
15:56 ashimema oleonard ^
15:56 oleonard Are you referring to a comment you made on the bug? I haven't seen it if so
15:57 ashimema I think it would also fit along with how our accordion UI works for table settings
15:57 ashimema yeah..
15:57 ashimema ok, no worries.. you've not seen the comment yet.. lol
15:58 ashimema the tl:dr is.. can we achieve tabs like: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/[…]/card/#navigation
15:58 oleonard Haha that Bootstrap 4 tab design is very much like jQueryUI's default tab design :D
15:59 oleonard https://jqueryui.com/tabs/
15:59 oleonard ...which has looked more or less the same for years
16:00 ashimema lol
16:00 ashimema I hadn't noticed
16:01 oleonard I noticed because I never cared for the tabs inside a colored box, so I made sure they were styled differently in Koha when I implemented them.
16:02 oleonard By the way we should be looked at v5 if we're talking about Bootstrap components: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/[…]/card/#navigation
16:03 * ashimema is all for a bootstrap upgrade.. but wasn't sure what the state of affairs was there..
16:03 ashimema we're bootstrap 3 ish aren't we
16:03 ashimema I get lost with our bootstrap versions
16:03 schnydszch Hi oleonard! Just checking out Element Chanserv in my browser
16:03 oleonard ashimema: 4.x in the OPAC, 3.x in the staff client
16:04 oleonard ashimema: I'd like to look at upgrading both to 5 soon
16:04 ashimema is there a vague plan to pull the staff into 5.x?
16:04 ashimema cool
16:05 ashimema so you don't like the boxed tabs then...  hmm..
16:06 oleonard I'm not in charge though, it's worth experimenting
16:06 ashimema with everything else moving towards being in cards I find the tabs the odd case
16:06 ashimema yeah.. worth playing with.. maybe just squaring off the tabs and tab-content and removing borders might work...
16:09 oleonard my brain is going in circles now that the redesign has been pushed. Can't decide where to look
16:10 ashimema ha, sorry dude
16:10 ashimema we need more hands to the mill.. I'm trying to help
16:10 ashimema but also working on a few other things in parallel which is hard
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16:37 lukeg Im wondering about non-dataTable tables, should they be given the Bootstrap class of table? See Bug 31766
16:37 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to master , Add 'page-section' to notices and slips page
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16:38 lukeg oops, I meant Bug 31773
16:38 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to master , Add 'page-section' to manage MARC import page
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18:36 cait oleonard: I am just catching up with today's mails - so no idea what happened yet today, but if you need someone helping to work thorugh something, let me know :)
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18:37 oleonard Thanks! I'm trying to get DataTables controls looking better... seems like a lot of unnecessary changes were made which were unrelated to the redesign
18:37 cait fingers crossed then
18:38 cait I'll be around for a bit
18:43 cait hm should we create the roles page for 23.05?
18:43 cait I could do it
18:45 kidclamp cait++
18:45 cait ok, on it already :)
18:47 cait the empty page looks a little scary: wiki
18:48 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_23.05
18:48 cait tcohen: can you please run the meeting script? Wiki hasn't updated for next dev yet
19:31 tuxayo hi #koha :)
19:31 cait hi tuxayo
19:34 tuxayo cait: about your case of joining IRC via the matrix instance hosted by a partner institution, does it federates at all with other instances? You can try to click on the room search field and paste "#matrix:matrix.org" to see if it lets you join the room.
19:34 tuxayo A large matrix instance by the french government isn't federated I think. Maybe it's the same with the instance you use.
19:34 cait I think that might be the case - but I'll give that a try tomorrow (on wrong computer now)
19:34 cait thx tuxayo
19:45 cait oleonard-away: are there some guidelines on how to place the page-section div?
19:45 cait i filed a ton of those bugs :)
20:12 cait hmm
20:12 cait I am trying to fix up the new catalouging start page
20:13 cait i noticed it's missing the help link and now ... I think i found a hole to fall in
20:13 cait help?
20:13 wahanui well, help is appreciated for bugs and keeping jenkins happy
20:13 cait trying to understand the new includes
20:16 cait hah, I got it working :)
21:37 ashimema Fix the help on cataloguing start page.m my bug?
21:38 ashimema I thought I'd fixed that
21:40 ashimema Oh.. when did the wrapper stuff happen.. did I totally miss that somehow
22:26 cait check the follow-up - I hope you agree :)
22:27 cait gnight
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