Time  Nick             Message
05:58 reiveune         hello
07:32 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
07:38 cait1            good morning #koha
09:16 ashimema         mrning
09:43 cait1            morning
09:43 cait1            just the 2 people I need... can I add IRC to a locally installed element client?
09:44 ashimema         yes
09:44 cait1            i am not seeing how to add anything... yet
09:44 ashimema         https://matrix.to/#/#koha-community:matrix.org
09:44 ashimema         that's the Koha 'space'
09:45 ashimema         it includes all the koha irc channels
09:45 ashimema         should be as simple as clicking the link and letting it open in your desktop element
09:46 cait1            hm maybe it doesn't work with the matrix server we are using
09:47 cait1            it says cannot access
09:47 ashimema         ah, what server are you on..
09:47 cait1            it's hosted by a partner institution
09:47 ashimema         I only ever really looked at the main public one
09:48 cait1            but was worth trying
09:48 cait1            thx!
09:49 ashimema         I'm haven't entirely groked how federation works in Matrix land as yet.
09:51 ashimema         do they have an irc bridge on their synapse server?
09:51 ashimema         if they do, you could bridge yourself I think
09:52 cait1            I don't know
09:54 ashimema         or the synapse's need to be federated
09:54 ashimema         https://matrix-org.github.io/synapse/latest/federate.html
09:54 ashimema         seems element can't do multiple homeservers... which is sorta annoying.
09:55 cait1            agreed
10:33 tcohen           hola #koha
10:53 cait1            does omeone know if you can add patron attributes as search options to the patron search?
10:56 oleonard         Hi cait1
10:56 cait1            hi oleonard :)
10:56 oleonard         "Check to make this attribute staff_searchable in the staff patron search" certainly seems to imply you can
10:56 oleonard         Also that is not a good sentence.
10:57 oleonard         "make it staff_searchable?"
10:57 cait1            yeah, you can search it within Standard then
10:57 cait1            I was wondering if it could be added to the pull down as well
10:59 cait1            I see DefaultPatronSearchFields but thought we had one for the pull down too hm
11:00 marcelr          o/
11:01 marcelr          oleonard: please check bug 31842
11:01 huginn`          Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31842 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , admin/branches: DT search generates js error on col.data.split
11:01 oleonard         Yes, it's on my list marcelr. Thanks for working on it.
11:41 marcelr          tcohen++
11:56 cait1            what did he do? tcohen++ :D
12:28 marcelr          what doesnt he do?
14:15 lukeg            hi
14:16 caroline         hi lukeg!
14:29 * cait1          waves
14:36 oleonard         @seen liliputech
14:36 huginn`          oleonard: liliputech was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 34 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <liliputech> thx ashimema
14:36 oleonard         Hm.
14:36 ashimema         hi
15:48 oleonard         Hi schnydszch
15:55 ashimema         what do you think about my thoughts on Pills vs Tabs.. about embedding the tabs in a card-header along the lines of bootstrap?
15:56 ashimema         it it achievable.. I had a go but wasn't sure how best to approach it in the end.. more markup or altering css..
15:56 ashimema         oleonard ^
15:56 oleonard         Are you referring to a comment you made on the bug? I haven't seen it if so
15:57 ashimema         I think it would also fit along with how our accordion UI works for table settings
15:57 ashimema         yeah..
15:57 ashimema         ok, no worries.. you've not seen the comment yet.. lol
15:58 ashimema         the tl:dr is.. can we achieve tabs like: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/components/card/#navigation
15:58 oleonard         Haha that Bootstrap 4 tab design is very much like jQueryUI's default tab design :D
15:59 oleonard         https://jqueryui.com/tabs/
15:59 oleonard         ...which has looked more or less the same for years
16:00 ashimema         lol
16:00 ashimema         I hadn't noticed
16:01 oleonard         I noticed because I never cared for the tabs inside a colored box, so I made sure they were styled differently in Koha when I implemented them.
16:02 oleonard         By the way we should be looked at v5 if we're talking about Bootstrap components: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/5.2/components/card/#navigation
16:03 * ashimema       is all for a bootstrap upgrade.. but wasn't sure what the state of affairs was there..
16:03 ashimema         we're bootstrap 3 ish aren't we
16:03 ashimema         I get lost with our bootstrap versions
16:03 schnydszch       Hi oleonard! Just checking out Element Chanserv in my browser
16:03 oleonard         ashimema: 4.x in the OPAC, 3.x in the staff client
16:04 oleonard         ashimema: I'd like to look at upgrading both to 5 soon
16:04 ashimema         is there a vague plan to pull the staff into 5.x?
16:04 ashimema         cool
16:05 ashimema         so you don't like the boxed tabs then...  hmm..
16:06 oleonard         I'm not in charge though, it's worth experimenting
16:06 ashimema         with everything else moving towards being in cards I find the tabs the odd case
16:06 ashimema         yeah.. worth playing with.. maybe just squaring off the tabs and tab-content and removing borders might work...
16:09 oleonard         my brain is going in circles now that the redesign has been pushed. Can't decide where to look
16:10 ashimema         ha, sorry dude
16:10 ashimema         we need more hands to the mill.. I'm trying to help
16:10 ashimema         but also working on a few other things in parallel which is hard
16:37 lukeg            Im wondering about non-dataTable tables, should they be given the Bootstrap class of table? See Bug 31766
16:37 huginn`          Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to master , Add 'page-section' to notices and slips page
16:38 lukeg            oops, I meant Bug 31773
16:38 huginn`          Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Pushed to master , Add 'page-section' to manage MARC import page
18:36 cait             oleonard: I am just catching up with today's mails - so no idea what happened yet today, but if you need someone helping to work thorugh something, let me know :)
18:37 oleonard         Thanks! I'm trying to get DataTables controls looking better... seems like a lot of unnecessary changes were made which were unrelated to the redesign
18:37 cait             fingers crossed then
18:38 cait             I'll be around for a bit
18:43 cait             hm should we create the roles page for 23.05?
18:43 cait             I could do it
18:45 kidclamp         cait++
18:45 cait             ok, on it already :)
18:47 cait             the empty page looks a little scary: wiki
18:48 cait             https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_23.05
18:48 cait             tcohen: can you please run the meeting script? Wiki hasn't updated for next dev yet
19:31 tuxayo           hi #koha :)
19:31 cait             hi tuxayo
19:34 tuxayo           cait: about your case of joining IRC via the matrix instance hosted by a partner institution, does it federates at all with other instances? You can try to click on the room search field and paste "#matrix:matrix.org" to see if it lets you join the room.
19:34 tuxayo           A large matrix instance by the french government isn't federated I think. Maybe it's the same with the instance you use.
19:34 cait             I think that might be the case - but I'll give that a try tomorrow (on wrong computer now)
19:34 cait             thx tuxayo
19:45 cait             oleonard-away: are there some guidelines on how to place the page-section div?
19:45 cait             i filed a ton of those bugs :)
20:12 cait             hmm
20:12 cait             I am trying to fix up the new catalouging start page
20:13 cait             i noticed it's missing the help link and now ... I think i found a hole to fall in
20:13 cait             help?
20:13 wahanui          well, help is appreciated for bugs and keeping jenkins happy
20:13 cait             trying to understand the new includes
20:16 cait             hah, I got it working :)
21:37 ashimema         Fix the help on cataloguing start page.m my bug?
21:38 ashimema         I thought I'd fixed that
21:40 ashimema         Oh.. when did the wrapper stuff happen.. did I totally miss that somehow
22:26 cait             check the follow-up - I hope you agree :)
22:27 cait             gnight