IRC log for #koha, 2022-09-22

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02:55 aman Hello
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02:57 aman I am adding some languages to my koha OPAC and Staff Client interface with koha-translate command. All other languages work but not French. When French language is selected my opac search results don't display any metadata connected with the records
02:58 aman My koha is the latest, installed from debian packages
03:04 aman Happens both in OPAC and Staff client
03:05 aman Switched between zebra and elasticssearch, same result
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05:41 marcelr hi #koha
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06:23 magnuse_ \o/
06:24 * cait1 waves
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06:30 reiveune hello
06:30 wahanui hey, reiveune
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06:39 marcelr mtj around?
06:40 marcelr @later tell mtj under bullseye / 21.11 i have a Locale/XGettext/ that does only not include the two version 0.6 lines; any idea ?
06:40 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
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06:52 marcelr @later tell mtj The module without the VERSION numbers of TT2 is actually 0.1
06:52 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
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07:03 alex_ Bonjour
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08:01 ashimema Morning
08:05 tuxayo Hi #koha :)
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08:32 marcelr hi ashimema tuxayo
08:32 tuxayo hi marcelr :)
09:28 marcelr bbl
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09:34 mtj hi tcohen: can we sort some wiki/canasta instances on the new prod system
09:37 mtj @later tell marcelr: about now, ping me :)
09:37 huginn` mtj: The operation succeeded.
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10:54 tcohen morning
10:54 ashimema morning tcohen
11:01 tcohen mtj: I'll try to make some time tomorrow for that. No nanny today and complex day
11:02 tcohen will try to make pushes today, as I can do in short timespans for review
11:04 tcohen anyone from biblibre? we need a account (or similar) so notifications are back. My personal email provider got banned and we've lost many notifications
11:04 ashimema interesting.. no idea if there is a mail exchange out there
11:05 ashimema who owns the domain.. Liz perhaps?
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11:06 mtj tcohen: thanks, ping me if you need anything done
11:08 mtj i think biblibre might admin emails, ping Joubu?
11:10 tcohen jajm? alex_?
11:10 mtj tcohen: could you make 2 wiki instances - prod and testing
11:11 tcohen sure, we only have test right now
11:13 * ashimema gets excited
11:19 mtj mee too
11:20 mtj i had a chat to thd yesterday, and things seem to be looking good on the new wiki
11:25 tcohen yeah
11:26 tcohen thd: around? Sorry for the delay on my end, will try to do it tomorrow
11:28 tcohen #koha: any volunteers to look at selenium tests failures? I lost my fuel on that for the week
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11:39 marcelr o/
11:42 marcelr mtj still around?
11:43 mtj hi marcelr
11:43 marcelr do you have a clue on TT2?
11:43 mtj hmm, i will look now
11:44 marcelr does the 21.11 repo contain the right version? how could I check that myself?
11:44 marcelr apart from looking at install results
11:44 mtj marcelr: i guess there is some subtle mismatch between master and 21.11
11:45 marcelr yes it is a strange mismatch
11:45 marcelr since only two lines with VERSION = seem to be missing
11:45 marcelr are we replacing stuff in the code ?
11:46 marcelr on cpan i saw that only version 0.1 misses the VERSION
11:47 marcelr or does a later install overwrite stuff with something older perhaps
11:47 marcelr sorry for thinking out loud :)
11:51 mtj tcohen: i am curious about rewriting  a/some problimatic selenium tests to playwright
11:52 mtj
11:53 mtj im hoping optimistically that a rewrite from one to other, would be straightforward
11:55 mtj if playwright proved to have reliable tests, it would be worth it
11:55 marcelr no package for it, i guess
11:56 marcelr just like selenium
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12:26 tcohen mtj[m]: it would be great if we could take a look
12:26 tcohen besides the fact this tests are ugly to write
12:27 tcohen I believe the problem is the preparation work that needs to be done to run them
12:27 tcohen like, they are expecting data that is just not there, sometimes
12:27 tcohen so really hard to reproduce locally
12:27 mtj hi tcohen, but wouldbt we have the same problem with playwright?
12:29 mtj hmm, i dont think that explains the random selenium fails on jenkins
12:30 tcohen I know, I'm not sure yet about this particular problem. I'm just mentioning reproducing locally is not that simple.
12:30 tcohen Maybe we should add an alias or command in KTD
12:30 tcohen hmm
12:30 marcelr tcohen: git rm ?
12:31 tcohen LOL
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12:31 marcelr just get rid of the perl scripts and you are done
12:32 mtj tcohen: ah yes, the db needs to be in a certain state, before the sele tests pass
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12:47 marcelr ashimema, tcohen: any news on bug 30588 in relation to api path ?
12:47 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30588 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Add the option to require 2FA setup on first staff login
12:47 marcelr should we rename it ?
12:53 tcohen internet fun
12:54 cait I thought rangi
12:54 cait hups, shodul scroll down, was re emails
13:00 tcohen marcelr: huh=
13:00 tcohen didn't know about that one, tbh
13:01 tcohen marcelr: can you help with background jobs for staging/import?
13:01 tcohen I can take a look at yours
13:02 marcelr tcohen: do you mean 30982 ?
13:02 marcelr i will qa that one tomorrow
13:03 tcohen that'd be a good start, yes
13:03 tcohen thanks
13:03 marcelr as for 30588 i was in the assumption that martin already talked with you about it
13:04 marcelr at least he was planning to..
13:04 tcohen I'm pretty sure
13:04 tcohen I must have forgotten
13:04 marcelr you are like an elephant never forgetting
13:06 tcohen You mean big and old? LOL
13:06 tcohen I'll refresh that conversation with ashimema
13:08 marcelr good plan
13:10 cait tcohen: wrinkly ;)
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13:18 * tcohen googles wrinkly
13:19 tcohen LOL
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13:20 oleonard Hi #koha
13:21 oleonard KohaCon day 3 at the beautiful Lawrence Public Library
13:26 paulderscheid[m] Morning from Lawrence, KS o/ Finally got working WiFi
13:27 marcelr hi kohacon
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13:33 pastebot "mtj" at pasted "apt install libplaywright-perl" (16 lines) at
13:33 mtj hi marcelr, that might work ^
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13:45 marcelr nice mtj (iirc looks easier than the selenium stuff?)
13:49 mtj looks nice enough...[…]b/main/
13:53 mtj looks like vscode is the go[…]ng-started-vscode
13:56 tundunf hi all!
13:56 mtj[…]sentinel-recorder
13:57 mtj "Record browser interactions to auto generate Cypress, Playwright and Puppeteer test scripts."
13:57 mtj hi tundunf
14:00 oleonard Cypress is what Joubu is using with the ERM stuff isn't it?
14:01 marcelr iirc it is
14:02 marcelr looking for another job with all that autogenerate stuff :)
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14:11 h2 Hi! Total IRC newbie here, trying it out, waving hello.
14:11 oleonard Hi!
14:11 Michael_Adamyk Hello!
14:11 AndrewFH howdy :)
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14:12 oleonard Does oftc show you the list of people who are online? usually most of those people are lurking or not actually here. It can be hard to tell!
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14:12 Jenny hello
14:12 wahanui bidet, Jenny
14:12 oleonard So it's always worth blurting out your question
14:13 Jenny just testing how the IRC works
14:13 h2 Hi!
14:13 Jenny IDENTIFY Jenny
14:13 oleonard There are a couple of bots that help us out, like wahanui who greeted you and answers some questions
14:13 Jenny Sorry, it says authenticate with IDENTIFY (idk)
14:14 Jenny oh ok- re the bots
14:14 Jenny interesting
14:14 ashimema hello
14:14 wahanui privet, ashimema
14:14 oleonard Jenny you don't need to worry about the authentication thing
14:14 Jenny ok Leonard- thank you
14:14 oleonard @seen kidclamp
14:14 huginn` oleonard: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 day, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <kidclamp> I do that sometimes, but when I hear my CPU fan kick on, I throttle back :-D
14:14 AndrewFH some irc info that might be helpful:
14:15 AndrewFH and a who's-who:
14:15 oleonard ^^ an example of how huginn (another bot) helps us
14:15 Jenny I'm currently tuned in to the conference so I will come off here now. As I said I just wanted to test. Thanks guys
14:17 h2 This is neat--I'm tuned in to the conference, too, so will go back to it.  I'll drop in here again sometime!  Bye!
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14:31 milktoast Is there an online KOHA VirtualBox that one cold download to practice, test and show others about KOHA
14:32 cait milktoast: a sandbox is helpful sometimes for a quick show - or the demos on the website
14:32 AndrewFH there are a few options. the easiest might be the live demo site ByWater Solutions runs. just go to and scroll down until you see the bit about a demo site
14:32 AndrewFH it'll tell you how to access both the online catalog and the staff interface
14:33 cait there is no 'ready to use' virtualbox made by the communty
14:33 ashimema sandboxes?
14:33 wahanui sandboxes are down apparently
14:33 AndrewFH here's a wiki page about the sandboxes:
14:33 cait and
14:34 milktoast thanks
14:57 oleonard wahanui: forget sandboxes
14:57 wahanui oleonard: I forgot sandboxes
14:57 oleonard wahanui: sandboxes is
14:57 wahanui OK, oleonard.
14:57 oleonard sandboxes?
14:57 wahanui sandboxes is probably
14:57 oleonard Probably, wahanui? Really?
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15:00 AndrewFH heya @bag :)
15:01 cait oleonard: don't upset the bot!
15:05 oleonard What's the worst they can they do, rise up and kill all humans?? :D
15:05 cait I'd call that tempting fate?
15:08 ashimema you just put this in my head:
15:08 oleonard 👍
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15:18 reiveune bye
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16:52 kohaadmin Hi, Need help with translator for OPAC and Staff Client
16:53 kohaadmin All languages are working but French is not working. The search in the catalogue returns records without any associated bibliographic information/metadata when French language is selected
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17:33 milktoast I asked this at the Con and no one has heard of or used it... has anyone used and converted from Primasoft's "Handy Library Manage" to KOHA? This is what I'm tying to do.
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18:01 milktoast Does Koha support complex import
18:02 milktoast Asking because of this page to export ours[…]export-sample.htm
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18:33 paulderscheid[m] Which path is a page in if created with the new pages feature in master?
18:36 oleonard Like this in the staff interface: /cgi-bin/koha/tools/
18:36 oleonard In the OPAC: /cgi-bin/koha/
18:45 oleonard Bug 15326
18:45 wahanui Bug 15326 is, like, making good progress. Still needs work, but getting a lot closer
18:45 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15326 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Add CMS feature
18:46 oleonard paulderscheid[m]: The test plan implies that you must do your own customization to be able to link to new OPAC pages
18:46 oleonard wahanui forget Bug 15326
18:46 wahanui oleonard: I forgot bug 15326
18:50 paulderscheid[m] oleonard++
18:57 ashimema There's a follow-up bug by marcelr that improves those links a little btw pauldetscheid
18:58 paulderscheid[m] Thanks ashimema
18:58 paulderscheid[m] I remember you not being happy with how it was Setup
18:58 ashimema I still reckon we can do better . But I've not played too much with it yet
18:58 paulderscheid[m] My boss seems pretty intrigued
18:59 ashimema Can't entirely remember the details honestly
18:59 ashimema It had moved a lot since if first looked at it
18:59 ashimema It's a great feature
19:00 ashimema I just think we should be able to do better with URLs ... Instead of exposing internal IDs I think we should have nice clear urls
19:00 ashimema Kinda like WordPress gives pretty url
19:00 ashimema But yeah.. that can come later
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19:10 cait1 :)
19:10 cait1 paulderscheid[m]: say hi to the boss ;)
19:10 cait1 I heard you won some mugs!
19:12 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, for the longest trip to KohaCon ^^
19:13 cait1 :)
19:13 paulderscheid[m] cait1: I will
19:13 cait1 enjoying your first KohaCon?
19:13 paulderscheid[m] It's great
19:14 cait1 :)
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23:01 tuxayo > I heard you won some mugs!
23:01 tuxayo > Yeah, for the longest trip to KohaCon ^^
23:02 tuxayo lol, you got the prize "for the climate"
23:02 tuxayo aka, the flightshame prize :P
23:03 tuxayo actually it's a good surprise that you got it Paul, it could have been much worse in terms of distance
23:04 tuxayo so you can be proud :P
23:39 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, we bought the CO2 certs but you‘re still right

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