IRC log for #koha, 2022-08-18

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01:23 dcook How good is C4::Auth::check_cookie_auth? So grateful to have it in master...
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01:49 aleisha agreed!
01:50 aleisha i would love to work away from using language like master. calling it main or something else instead. i believe this was raised in the last couple of years, has there been any movement there?
02:09 dcook aleisha: I was actually just thinking about that yesterday
02:09 dcook I'm surprised that we haven't moved away tbh
02:10 dcook A fair number of other projects I work on have switched to 'main'
02:10 dcook I wonder..
02:10 aleisha me too. i think we should make it a priority!
02:12 dcook aleisha: I think Joubu runs the Gitea repo that serves so I suppose he'd be the key person to talk to, and I suppose tcohen as RM
02:12 dcook I don't know much about branch maintainers. Do you use scripts that reference a master branch?
02:12 aleisha i havent been rmaint for a while so it's probably changed since, i didnt use any fancy scripts i believe
02:13 dcook maybe we could make a resolution to start using "main" from 22.11?
02:16 dcook Actually feeling kind of inspired this morning...
02:17 dcook After I write a patch for bug 31389, bug 31380 might be able to get off the ground...
02:17 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31389 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Calculate user permissions in separate function
02:17 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Build Mojolicious controller for running Koha plugins
02:46 wajasu on the left sidebar of the opac, i have my authors, collections, etc inthe results.  i saw a video where some facets or checkboxes allow one to drill down inthe results.
02:46 wajasu is that available with zerba? or elasticsearch, or just  syspref setting?
03:31 tuxayo > I don't know much about branch maintainers. Do you use scripts that reference a master branch?
03:31 tuxayo I don't think so dcook
03:31 dcook Kewl
03:31 tuxayo There is in release-tools etc/config.yaml that has a "master" value
03:31 tuxayo used to know the next release name
03:32 tuxayo and get the right team from the list team.
03:32 tuxayo We could forget to change it and would still work
03:33 tuxayo > I'm surprised that we haven't moved away tbh
03:33 tuxayo It needs someone to bring the topic in mailing lists and meetings
03:37 tuxayo Yeah why not changing to something else.
03:37 tuxayo I haven't read much about the reasons so it seems weird to me to reduce master to it's master-slave sense as there is the "expert" meaning and "The original of a document or of a recording." which fit what we do with git.
03:37 tuxayo But it doesn't hurt.
03:39 tuxayo We should just be sure the new term works well in the usual phrases.
03:39 tuxayo Maybe dev or devel would be less confusing in context than main.
04:10 dcook "main" seems to be the de facto standard globally I think
04:10 dcook And I think that systems like Github, Gitlab, etc default to "main" for new HEAD branches these days I think
04:11 dcook bug And
04:11 dcook Ack
04:11 dcook Bug 31380
04:11 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build Mojolicious controller for running Koha plugins
04:11 dcook Pretty excited by this one
04:21 dcook Oops forgot to update one patch..
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06:52 alex_ Bonjour
06:52 wahanui hola, alex_
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07:06 cait1 good morning #koha!
07:29 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
07:29 paulderscheid[m] morning cait1
07:34 cait1 morning paulderscheid[m] :)
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08:09 Joubu dcook: are you using vim?
08:09 Joubu vmap <F8> :!perltidy -q<CR>
08:10 Joubu I have this mapping in .vimrc, in visual mode you can select a block and press F8 to perltidy the whole block
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08:48 marcelr hi #koha
08:51 marcelr @later tell kidclamp could you plz qa 31385 ?
08:51 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
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09:23 * ashimema rolls up sleeves and dives into bug 30718
09:23 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Use flatpickr's altInput option everywhere
09:23 ashimema @later tell tuxayo, thanks for the vigilant testing of bug 30718.. give's me the confidence to QA now 🙂
09:23 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
09:24 marcelr ashimema: you pick my patch
09:24 marcelr no problem but i was going to do that one
09:24 ashimema haha
09:24 ashimema if you'd like it your welcome to it 😜
09:24 marcelr seriously for one time
09:25 marcelr i have bug 29144 for you
09:25 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29144 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Move branches.opac_info to AdditionalContents allowing multi language
09:25 ashimema sure.. happy to swap to that if you're happy on datpicker 🙂
09:25 ashimema be nice to see both go through
09:25 marcelr i already started on 30718 before
09:26 ashimema haha.. me too.. though not for ages..
09:26 ashimema it's nice to see it SO'd.. and reading the comments it looks like victor did a pretty good job
09:26 ashimema I'll leave that one to you then
09:26 marcelr ok
09:26 ashimema and focus on 29144 for you 🙂
09:26 ashimema teamwork
09:26 marcelr great
09:27 marcelr it should still apply with some auto merging..
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09:31 marcelr anyone willing to test Joubu's patches on bug 27421; i want to qa it tomorrow
09:31 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Porting tools/ to BackgroundJob
09:33 anne Hello, I want to change item type to book. I used the batch item modification tool (thanks for the help yesterday). At the end, I got something like this : It will be processed as soon as possible. But nothing happens... Is there anything specific to be run ?
09:34 marcelr look for background jobs / background worker etc
09:35 marcelr and check Bugzilla
09:56 marcelr brb
10:04 cait1 anne: was there a link to click when you got the message?
10:04 cait1 you can go here and see the status of your changes maybe: .../cgi-bin/koha/admin/
10:05 anne I remember two links. I had clicked on one of them: 404 error
10:05 cait1 hm yes, that could be a bug that is soon to be fixed
10:05 cait1 which version are you on?
10:05 cait1 you can see it on the 'about Koha' page at the top
10:06 anne Version
10:07 cait1 ok
10:07 cait1 you should try to update to the new 22.05.x version coming out soon (I think next week)
10:08 cait1 you could also update now to the latest bugfix release of 22.05 which will fix some things, but I think this specific bug might be in the version next week
10:13 anne Ok cait1 thanks, when I go to .../cgi-bin/koha/admin/ I got error 404. So, I think I'll wait until the new 22.05.x version is released
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11:13 oleonard What's up #koha?
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11:24 marcelr o/
11:24 oleonard Hi marcelr
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11:59 liliputech late hi koha today :p (not working on koha today, rmaint queue is ok)
12:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28854: (follow-up) Remove errant warning <[…]2f11d00f35ef90dbd>
12:05 tcohen hola #koha
12:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30684: (follow-up) Use log_warning_msg for the "not running" warning <[…]0265c3e045c039ac0>
12:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30779: Remove _update_import_record_marc and update tests <[…]bcc1d842777b67c3b>
12:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 31217: OPAC coce.js is not hiding the coce-coverimg div for single-pixel images <[…]df6bbf2ab6623bbcd>
12:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30684: When a service isn't running koha-* scripts --restart should start it <[…]e4487004bdd550a04>
12:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30779: Do not update import marc after importing items <[…]74b62c8ed77d6afad>
12:14 liliputech hi cait1 just got your message from huginn, glad translation-team made it through, thanks to those involved :)
12:20 cait1 :)
13:01 marcelr ashimema++ # bug 29144
13:01 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29144 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Passed QA , Move branches.opac_info to AdditionalContents allowing multi language
13:01 cait1 ashimema++
13:02 ashimema took a bit of reading but was clear in the end
13:02 ashimema I find the whole 'all libraries' and 'best match' stuff a little confusing but couldn't come up with better terms..
13:02 ashimema we can certainly refine that in the other bug though..
13:03 ashimema I agree with cait though.. 'All libraries' to me is really clearly 'Always display'.. and we have customers using it that way
13:03 ashimema the difficulty I find is that we have News and Additional contents sharing so much code.. I think I always felt they should be their own code paths as they have enough distinct functionality (like this case) to warrant it in my opinion
13:04 marcelr yes it is hard to draw the line
13:05 ashimema indeed
13:05 ashimema DRY code isn't always the best code.. sometimes slightly modified code is actually clearer and more specifi
13:06 ashimema anywho.. it's a nice enhancement 🙂
13:07 marcelr but lots of copy-paste is so awesome :)
13:08 marcelr when development is done with sed
13:08 ashimema haha
13:08 ashimema fine line
13:09 marcelr i cced you on 29190 now
13:28 tcohen we have evolved in good ways lately
13:29 tcohen now it is really easy to add a table and a class
13:29 tcohen with just a few specific methods
13:29 tcohen easy to write tests
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13:30 tcohen we still don't have a scaffolding tool
13:30 tcohen that'd be awesome
13:31 cait1 ... can a scaffolding tool be explained easily?
13:32 tcohen some tool you pass some parameters and it generates empty classes and (why not) API entries...
13:34 marcelr automate writing stupid code :)
13:34 marcelr is there any scaffolding bug solver too tomas ?
13:35 tcohen the idea is that you automate broureaucracy and only focus on the important stuff
13:42 cait1 thx :)
13:43 tcohen it is quite often that we need to solve minor quirks on QA, related to bad copying and pasting, lack of POD etc
13:45 cait1 i think the danger of scaffolding is that you still need to make adjustments
13:45 cait1 so we might still see some oversiths
13:45 cait1 but maybe it could flag oversights some way
13:54 cait1 .. like if a placeholder is not replaced with a proper description? (have never used such tools...)
14:07 kidclamp marcelr - signed off
14:13 paulderscheid[m] Does anyone know why I'm getting this error?... (full message at[…]bFwigznFCuKOYiVU)
14:14 paulderscheid[m] Well I know what happens, I just don't get why there's no relationship between Biblio and biblio_metadata
14:14 marcelr thx kidclamp i will go further tomorrow
14:15 paulderscheid[m] > <> Does anyone know why I'm getting this error?... (full message at[…]AVbbqZnyfYjcbfaA)
14:21 liliputech paulderscheid[m]: in your call to biblio->Search there is a typo I guess, biblioitems is misspelled as bibliotitems, try to change it :)
14:22 paulderscheid[m] I just introduced it
14:22 paulderscheid[m] The problem was there before
14:23 paulderscheid[m] Actually the error occurs if I try to use the ->next method
14:23 paulderscheid[m] ```while ( my $biblio = $biblios->next ) {```
14:24 paulderscheid[m] Any idea liliputech
14:39 marcelr cu later
14:43 cait1 sorry paulderscheid[m] - pass
14:45 paulderscheid[m] @seen tcohen
14:45 huginn paulderscheid[m]: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <tcohen> it is quite often that we need to solve minor quirks on QA, related to bad copying and pasting, lack of POD etc
14:45 paulderscheid[m] No problem cait1
15:15 cait1 bye all :)
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15:25 liliputech paulderscheid[m]: pass as well...
16:00 liliputech 'evening, see u tomorrow
16:14 oleonard ashimema around?
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16:18 ashimema hi
16:18 wahanui what's up, ashimema
16:19 oleonard Hi, I have a question about Bug 31028
16:19 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31028 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Add 'Report a concern' feature for patrons to report concerns about catalog records
16:19 oleonard The text, "A short summary of what the library policy is for dealing with such concerns and what constitutes a valid concern" is hard-coded in a couple of templates
16:20 oleonard That seems like it should have a customization method built in
16:21 oleonard I can add a comment to the bug, but I wondered if I was missing something
16:23 ashimema bugger.. I forgot to add that feature in
16:24 ashimema yeah.. it was meant to use the AdditionalContents stuff
16:24 ashimema but I clearly forgot about it.. haha
16:24 ashimema thanks
16:24 oleonard Okay I'll go ahead and leave a comment
16:24 ashimema thanks
16:25 * ashimema seems to always be juggling a bit too much these days..
16:25 ashimema also need to add unit tests and stuff for QA.. but wanted to get going on refining the feature 😛
16:30 * ashimema hopes the follow-up on bug 31373 makes Joubu a bit happier
16:30 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31373 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Notice template validation is missing INCLUDE_PATH
16:31 ashimema sometimes.. little things end up much bigger 😧
16:31 ashimema that was meant to be a tiny bugfix..
16:31 ashimema right.. time to now go remind myself how AdditionalContent stuff works.. :!
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17:13 wajasu i have Amazonbot GETs in my plack.log.   Should I put a robots.txt in the root accordingly.  It's been going for a day.
17:13 tuxayo ashimema: «thanks for the vigilant testing of bug 30718.. give's me the confidence to QA now 🙂» Glad to hear :D
17:13 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Use flatpickr's altInput option everywhere
17:18 oleonard wajasu: I believe a lot of people do
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17:57 wajasu ok.
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19:45 caroline Is there a way to request a transfer from another library without going through holds?
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20:27 cait caroline: not sure for request... I think we migh tonly have the 'other direction'
20:27 cait transfer fom circ start page...
20:29 caroline It's what I thought... I had a weird request from a client that I don't fully understand, but basically, it was possible in 20.05 to create a transfer to your own library from elsewhere, but it's not possible anymore
20:29 * cait might have gone down some rabbit hole
20:29 cait how did you do it?
20:29 cait I mean in 20.05
20:29 caroline You chose your own library in 'destination' and manually wrote in the barcode
20:30 cait hm, but how would the other library learn about the request?
20:30 caroline I have no idea... but now we have transfers to send, so they could look at that
20:31 cait it would updat the item status... but how could you tell it was a request and not something that is already 'travelling'
20:31 cait not quite
20:31 cait it's a different status if something is requested to be transferred or in transfer
20:31 cait i think stock rotation uses that
20:32 caroline I'm not sure... like I said it's a weird request and their process is not logical with the transfer process
20:32 cait might be the only feature for now using it - ashimema would know
20:32 caroline but they used to be able to, and now they're not and they are not happy :(
20:34 caroline poor marieluce is trying to appease them by finding an alternative way of doing whatever they need to do
20:34 cait I understand... but I really think they misused the form before
20:34 cait the form assumes you have the item in your hand and put it in transport (like start sending it)
20:34 caroline I think so too :)
20:35 cait but yeah I understand
20:35 cait sometimes it#s difficult
20:36 caroline And their message was really weird bc they said that the other library is only opened some days a week and they don't want to wait to put it in transfer... but who sends it? the employee who is there only a couple days a week, right?
20:36 cait yeah, that si the bit I don't get too
20:37 caroline I don't fully understand what they're trying to do...
20:37 cait someone needs to do the physicla sending bit
20:38 caroline They don't allow holds on available items, so I think it has something to do with that
20:39 cait hmm
20:39 cait could you activate the holdoverwrite thing to allow them on staff side?
20:40 cait or they could just log in as the other library?
20:40 caroline they already have that, and that will be the workaround marieluce will propose... I just wish I understood the underlying need
20:40 cait hm yes
20:41 caroline yeah they don't want to log into the other library bc then they forget and all transactions are done in the other library and it's a mess
20:42 cait it's a valid concern
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21:16 * cait feels like patching koha sometimes is like pulling a string on your knitting
21:17 cait davidnind++ thx :)
21:17 caroline I can relate to that XD
21:21 cait :)
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