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cait1: nope, it's at 21:00 utc |
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Bonjour |
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salut, alex_ |
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cait1 |
oh the other 9 |
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cait1 |
this one showed up wrongly in my calendar |
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cait1 |
Joubu: webseite says 11 |
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cait1 |
pm |
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Joubu |
cait1: the website? |
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wahanui |
somebody said the website was updated |
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cait1 |
Joubu: https://koha-community.org/calendar/ has 11pm for me |
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cait1 |
but you said UTC... I am just not awake yet I guess |
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Joubu |
21UTC must be 23 for you |
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Joubu |
you lost me :D |
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cait1 |
it's alright :) sorry for beign confusing, I'll wait with more comments until the first coffee/tea kicks in next time |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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fridolin |
cait1: my fault i created at 11am UTC but it is 11am for Tahiti time, its |
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fridolin |
Victor notices that and altered the ML |
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fridolin |
i fixed it yesterday |
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cait1 |
fridolin: ok, not going crazy, that's good to know :) |
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fridolin |
^^ |
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* fridolin |
first QA whoooo |
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ashimema |
fridolin++ |
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* ashimema |
is out today so won't be around much. |
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magnuse |
fridolin++ |
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fridolin |
"a great power implies ..." |
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fridolin |
... mmm to use it ^^ |
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cait1 |
use it _wisely_ ;) |
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liliputech |
hello, i didn't manage to backport bz30742 to 21.11.x, lots of conflicts and time is limited, i'm afraid that if i take a lot of time on some single bugs it makes it hard for me to keep up with lucas! |
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magnuse |
bug 30742 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30742 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to stable , Confusion when placing hold on record with no items available because of not for loan |
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Joubu |
liliputech: you should not rebase yourself if it's not trivial |
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Joubu |
so asking the original author for a rebase is the way to go |
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liliputech |
thx Joubu, that's what I needed to hear :) |
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liliputech |
so, now going over to the next bz to backport :) |
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magnuse |
liliputech++ |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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magnuse |
\o |
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jase |
Hello |
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jase |
I would like to know current stable version of koha? |
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oleonard |
jase: The latest stable version is always highlighted on the Koha home page: https://koha-community.org/ |
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jase |
Now using koha 3.15. I want to update new stable vesrion. |
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oleonard |
Upgrading from such an old version will be more difficult than usual. |
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jase |
I can see that 22.05 |
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jase |
Do you have any other suggestion? |
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marcelr |
o/ |
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magnuse |
"When you use the basic license, the Elasticsearch security features are disabled by default." hmmm... |
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marcelr |
hash- or arrayref expected (not a simple scalar, use allow_nonref to allow this) at /usr/share/koha/opac/opac-search.pl line 564 |
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oleonard |
jase: Don't be too alarmed about the jump from 3 to 22, we changed Koha's numbering convention at one point to start following a year/month pattern. But your version is still quite old. |
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marcelr |
Commit 71f54a75713c5d5a6acfbdd3fefe1166ea0efafd |
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marcelr |
- $pasarParams .= '&query=' . uri_escape_utf8($query); + $pasarParams .= '&query=' . uri_escape_utf8(encode_json($query)); |
| 11:26 |
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marcelr |
a simple opac search already crashes on master |
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oleonard |
jase: I'm not an expert so I don't want to recommend any particular resource, but searching the web for "koha upgrade from 3" or something similar might help. In broad terms, you'll want to export your existing Koha database and import it into a new up-to-date Koha installation |
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magnuse |
tried to set up elasticsearch on ubuntu, and it pretty much just worked. now trying on debian, but can't get search to work, and seeing warnings about security not being configured in the logs. anyone got some pro tips? |
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oleonard |
magnuse: Maybe kidclamp owes you a favor for something? |
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magnuse |
hehe, i doubt it |
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oleonard |
magnuse: kidclamp may not remember it because he took quite a blow to the head, but you did save him from that wild boar attack in Marseille that one time. |
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marcelr |
bug 30925 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30925 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot create public lists in OPAC or staff ? |
| 11:55 |
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magnuse |
oleonard: ah yes, that is true! |
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oleonard |
marcelr: Seems to work for me |
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marcelr |
current master |
| 11:57 |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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marcelr |
by adding items from detail |
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marcelr |
to a new list |
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oleonard |
Oh, sorry I checked without reading. I didn't test that. |
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magnuse |
huh, /cgi-bin/koha/admin/searchengine/elasticsearch/mappings.pl says Index 'koha_vaggeryd' needs to be recreated. |
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Joubu |
marcelr: seems to work for me |
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marcelr |
it occurs when adding items to a new list |
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Joubu |
opac-detail.pl > "save to your lists" > add to new list "foo" private > save |
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marcelr |
via addbybiblionumber |
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Joubu |
the new list is created |
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marcelr |
it is private |
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marcelr |
but i want a public one / check allowpubliclistcreation |
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Joubu |
ok, creating a public list will create a private list |
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marcelr |
yep |
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marcelr |
i will refine the title |
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Joubu |
your bug report was missing some info ;) |
| 12:04 |
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marcelr |
bug 30925 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30925 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Creating public list by adding items to new list creates a private list |
| 12:05 |
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Joubu |
var "category" is not retrieved from opac/opac-addbybiblionumber.pl... |
| 12:06 |
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Joubu |
Bug 28959: (follow-up) Adjust all places in which 'category' was used |
| 12:06 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, virtualshelves.category is really a boolean |
| 12:06 |
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marcelr |
hmm another suspect found? |
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Joubu |
-my $category = $query->param('category'); |
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marcelr |
i was looking for a public= parameter |
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Joubu |
+my $public = $query->param('public'); |
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Joubu |
but it does not modify the template... |
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marcelr |
21.11 |
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kidclamp |
magnuse - I vaguely remember having to configure security out of the box - add the following in elasticsearch.yml: xpack.security.enabled: false |
| 12:13 |
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kidclamp |
https://discuss.elastic.co/t/h[…]ng-message/274421 |
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magnuse |
kidclamp: ok, thanks |
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magnuse |
i think maybe i was trying the wrong version, should it be 6? |
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* kidclamp |
nods |
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magnuse |
...as described here? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ian#Elasticsearch |
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kidclamp |
that looks right, but wizzyrea does most of the installs now, I just ask her to make magic :-) |
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oleonard-away |
wizzyrea: Hidden wizard |
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Joubu |
marcelr: so the last patch on bug 30813 is not correct, do you agree with that? |
| 12:18 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30813 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Refactor TransformMarcToKoha to remove TransformMarcToKohaOneField |
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FlorianB |
Hello koha people |
| 12:19 |
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magnuse |
kidclamp: thanks |
| 12:20 |
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marcelr |
Joubu whats wrong with the last patch? i just say do not import any names just require the module since i am calling it |
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FlorianB |
Joobu: Regarding the bug 3544, can you give me the field where you used the upload plugin? |
| 12:20 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3544 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Value builder plug-ins don't work with repeatable subfields |
| 12:20 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: Sorry but... please explicitely list the subroutines you will be using in the scripts/modules |
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Joubu |
third time |
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Joubu |
not sure why you are telling me I don't understand what you meant |
| 12:20 |
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Joubu |
don't use Module qw(); |
| 12:21 |
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Joubu |
the point of 17600 is to clean the imports and list the subroutines |
| 12:21 |
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Joubu |
for import cleaning purpose |
| 12:21 |
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Joubu |
and not have unecessary use statements |
| 12:21 |
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Joubu |
I am done now :) |
| 12:21 |
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marcelr |
ok ok |
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liliputech |
hi, for things i've decided not to backport (like big enhancement patch such as 30055) shall i update bugzilla status to resolved fixed? |
| 12:22 |
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marcelr |
Joubu in that case the previous patches needs adjustment; since they are calling a routine prefixed with C4:: etc |
| 12:22 |
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marcelr |
i just changed use Module; to use Module qw(); to state explicitly that we were not importing anything |
| 12:22 |
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marcelr |
so the problem is before that |
| 12:23 |
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marcelr |
iirc we still have some strange circular stuff where we 'solved' it with adding such prefixes too |
| 12:24 |
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Joubu |
Yes, you don't have to import, it will work if you are using the full namespace, but I suggested to have them anyway in the use statements for cleaning purpose |
| 12:24 |
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marcelr |
right i will adjust the report |
| 12:24 |
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Joubu |
cleaning and readability. You open the file and now directly what you will be doing with the file |
| 12:24 |
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Joubu |
no need to search for you package in the file |
| 12:25 |
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marcelr |
as you notice, we will have a hard time keeping it like that ;) |
| 12:25 |
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Joubu |
I am trying to keep it like that, and I thought I communicated enough about that change. Apparently not :) |
| 12:26 |
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marcelr |
communication is an art |
| 12:39 |
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marcelr |
Joubu: git grep -l -E 'use C4(::\w+)+;' has still 948 occurrences ;) |
| 12:39 |
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marcelr |
hits |
| 12:40 |
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liliputech |
pushing 6 commits to 21.11 :) |
| 12:43 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: C4::Context at least is not relevant |
| 12:43 |
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marcelr |
thats a good start |
| 12:45 |
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marcelr |
maybe we should still add a coding guideline too (or adjust PERL14) |
| 12:46 |
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marcelr |
about minimizing exports |
| 12:48 |
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tcohen |
hi all |
| 12:48 |
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tcohen |
I plan to migrate jenkins soon, anyone has objections? |
| 12:49 |
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tcohen |
there will be some downtime due to timezone stuffs with Chri |
| 12:49 |
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tcohen |
s |
| 12:53 |
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oleonard |
liliputech: Did someone answer you? I believe you're correct. If you don't backport, it's resolved fixed. |
| 12:54 |
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liliputech |
thx oleonard :) |
| 12:54 |
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marcelr |
tcohen++ |
| 12:55 |
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marcelr |
tcohen: opac search is broken on master for zebra |
| 12:55 |
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tcohen |
is it? |
| 12:55 |
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marcelr |
cant search nothing now |
| 12:55 |
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marcelr |
nada |
| 12:55 |
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* tcohen |
faints |
| 12:56 |
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marcelr |
nada,nada |
| 12:56 |
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* tcohen |
tries to remember how to start KTD |
| 12:56 |
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marcelr |
migrate it? |
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tcohen |
Waiting for the kid at a cafe, the mac has old docker images and is not loading KTD |
| 12:57 |
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tcohen |
heh |
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simon_ |
hi everyone! |
| 12:58 |
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oleonard |
Works for me marcelr |
| 12:59 |
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marcelr |
zebra only setup oleonard? |
| 12:59 |
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oleonard |
yes |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
commit 2da14cf8c10c2d5165220e6657b279b37aa02f81 |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
Author: Nick Clemens <nick bywatersolutions.com> |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
Date: Thu Apr 14 12:20:09 2022 +0000 |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
Bug 30528: Process limits before handling CCL query |
| 12:59 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30528 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Limits are not correctly parsed when query contains CCL |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
that's the only recent change |
| 13:00 |
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tcohen |
and queries certainly worked for me |
| 13:00 |
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simon_ |
i may have found ab bug: do the acquisiton and the subscription intranet detail tab work for you in 21.11? |
| 13:00 |
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marcelr |
Bug 30844 |
| 13:00 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30844 minor, P5 - low, ---, kevin.carnes, Pushed to master , The OPAC detail page's browser is limited to the current page of results when using Elasticsearch |
| 13:00 |
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marcelr |
commit 71f54a75713c5d5a6acfbdd3fefe1166ea0efafd |
| 13:01 |
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oleonard |
simon_: Do they simply not appear or is there some other symptom? |
| 13:01 |
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simon_ |
the tab is there, but no content |
| 13:01 |
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tcohen |
anyone experiencing this? |
| 13:01 |
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tcohen |
koha-koha-1 | Running [sudo koha-shell kohadev -p -c 'PERL5LIB=/Users/tcohen/perl5/lib/:/Users/tcohen/git/koha perl /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl -v --opac-base-url http://kohadev.myDNSname.org:8080 --intranet-base-url http://kohadev-intra.myDNSname.org:8081 --marcflavour MARC21']... |
| 13:01 |
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tcohen |
koha-koha-1 | Can't locate C4/Installer.pm in @INC (you may need to install the C4::Installer module) (@INC contains: /Users/tcohen/perl5/lib/ /Users/tcohen/git/koha /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.32.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.32 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32 /usr/share/perl/5.32 |
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tcohen |
/usr/local/lib/site_perl) at /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl line 25 |
| 13:02 |
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simon_ |
it seems there is a closing </div> missing for <div id="components"> in the detail.tt |
| 13:02 |
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oleonard |
simon_: That is a known bug. Bug 30721 |
| 13:03 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
| 13:03 |
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oleonard |
The fix has not been backported yet. |
| 13:03 |
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simon_ |
ah ok cool, thx |
| 13:03 |
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simon_ |
i am really bad at finding bugs in bugzilla it seems |
| 13:04 |
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oleonard |
simon_: It took me a couple tries even though I'm the one who filed it! |
| 13:05 |
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kidclamp |
marcelr: search working for me on master |
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simon_ |
;) |
| 13:06 |
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marcelr |
ok kidclamp |
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wahanui |
i heard kidclamp was the guy with an amazing moustache |
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oleonard |
wahanui: And let it never not be true |
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wahanui |
oleonard: i'm not following you... |
| 13:06 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: You should follow me on Twitter |
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wahanui |
oleonard: sorry... |
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oleonard_ |
Thanks power blip. |
| 13:14 |
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oleonard_ |
I wonder if one should not be able to have no cash register set when cash registers are enabled |
| 13:15 |
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oleonard_ |
If it shouldn't be possible to have no cash register set, we should require that a default cash register be defined for each branch |
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oleonard_ |
Either way it would be nice to be able to set a default cash register from the library edit interface as well. |
| 13:17 |
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alohabot |
🎠🮠Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ¬ðŸ˜ðŸ¥– |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_21.11_D10 build #103: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.11_D10/103/ |
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oleonard |
ashimema around? |
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liliputech |
yay \o/ |
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liliputech |
@seen ashimema |
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huginn |
liliputech: ashimema was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 28 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: * ashimema is out today so won't be around much. |
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tcohen |
marcelr, kidclamp with QueryAutoTruncate, searching for '*' returns no results |
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tcohen |
QueryAutoTruncate=off |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_21.11_U20 build #89: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.11_U20/89/ |
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magnuse |
"elasticsearch.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'" yeah, that's really helpful |
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cait1 |
liliputech: coudl you have a look at backproting bug 30721? pushed in May, maybe it was missed earlier on |
| 13:28 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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cait1 |
ashimema said he was not around today |
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cait1 |
earlier :) |
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oleonard |
Yes but now *I'M* asking ;) |
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kidclamp |
tomas hasn't that always been the case? |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_21.11_D11 build #115: FIXED in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.11_D11/115/ |
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liliputech |
cait1: sure, I'll have a look! |
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tcohen |
kidclamp: is it correct? |
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tcohen |
the report mentioned that querying for '*' worked but browsing next results didn't |
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kidclamp |
in zebra * returns nothing, in ES it should return everything |
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tcohen |
you say we are not translating '*' to the right query in zebra |
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kidclamp |
on something else, will check that report again, I missed that link |
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cait1 |
tcohen: * never worked in Zebra |
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FlorianB |
Hi again, had to step away from the computer, I think my earlier question got drowned in other discussions |
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FlorianB |
Joobu: Regarding the bug 3544, can you give me the field where you used the upload plugin? |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3544 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Value builder plug-ins don't work with repeatable subfields |
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Joubu |
FlorianB: 856$u |
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Joubu |
FlorianB: https://snipboard.io/TKkJBp.jpg |
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FlorianB |
Thanks! |
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tcohen |
cait1: thats' a shame |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30850: DBRev 22.06.00.002 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f764bc32f98c4856e> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30923: Remove EXPERIMENTAL mark on RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials <https://git.koha-community.org[…]47559dc2ee102ce05> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30899: Correct dbrev 211200041 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]771924012d7890c6b> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30850: (QA follow-up) Cosmetic changes to atomic update <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b7ed12f220fa92cd1> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30850: dbrev to inform existing users of the mapping change <https://git.koha-community.org[…]52aec3e9b31501d02> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30850: Add default mapping for biblio.author to 110$a (MARC21) <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b1c01801d1334de84> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30738: Log warnings for background MARC import <https://git.koha-community.org[…]9060b2800947982e8> |
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caroline |
@later tell davidnind do you mind if I merge a couple of requests in the manual? |
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huginn |
caroline: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
oleonard: bug 8694 - did you test the patch? |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8694 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Failed QA , Show accurate subscription renewal warning for expired subscriptions |
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oleonard |
I don't remember, I just remember that I was seeing the bug happen. I can try your patch (again?) if that would help |
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liliputech |
cait1: just pushed 30721 to 21.11.x :) |
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oleonard |
liliputech++ |
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cait1 |
liliputech: thx! |
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cait1 |
tcohen: in Zebra you say: allrecords,AlwaysMatches="" |
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cait1 |
... I guess that doesn't make things much better |
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liliputech |
jenkins server move on it's way? |
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tcohen |
not yet |
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tcohen |
will do a test first |
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tcohen |
some workers won't be available due to the IP change |
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tcohen |
I'm moving it to a dockerized setup on https://portainer.koha-community.org |
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liliputech |
hum, them why did my last run got aborted? errors on the branch? hope not :( |
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liliputech |
tcohen: nice! |
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tcohen |
right now only api.koha-community.org is running on that portainer setup |
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tcohen |
any service we want to run can be set there |
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alohabot |
🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo 🥜ðŸ¥ðŸ£ |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: (QA follow-up) Adjust three use statements <https://git.koha-community.org[…]4f46268384b239144> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: (follow-up) Correct C4::Breeding call <https://git.koha-community.org[…]a4e0d9ed29d29a42f> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: (follow-up) ImportBatch updates <https://git.koha-community.org[…]099a2cd60a4299cf8> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: Remove Koha::MetadataRecord::getKohaField <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2e46e71e136e11272> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: Remove TransformMarcToKohaOneField <https://git.koha-community.org[…]25b77f5e9ae2684f5> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: Adjust TransformMarcToKoha to take kohafields parameter <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ebbc4e44e8d8012e7> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: Update TransformMarcToKoha to accept a hashref <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e487ca0ebd06b6911> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30789: Improve performance of AddBiblio <https://git.koha-community.org[…]6ad001188aafd4350> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30807: Migrate to patron-title in pay and paycollect <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b36f3fb62df54865d> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30806: Migrate to patron-title in member-flags <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b3a101565eab302db> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 27519: Normalize Show/Don't show in system preferences <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0ac45003da1aab0b1> |
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Project Koha_21.11_D12 build #78: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.11_D12/78/ |
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koha-jenkins |
oleonard: Bug 30721: Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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cait1 |
bye #koha1 |
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tcohen |
bye cait |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_21.11_U20 build #90: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.11_U20/90/ |
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koha-jenkins |
oleonard: Bug 30721: Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30508: Do not display OPAC message about block from holds when OPACHoldRequests... <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c1860e47524430e95> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 29312: Remove unnecessary dot <https://git.koha-community.org[…]65d459d6b84126069> |
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AnneP |
Hello, I have just installed koha and I have a problem to change Koha to MARC mapping. Is this the place to ask that kind of question ? |
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oleonard |
Yes AnneP |
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alohabot |
🎠🨠Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸðŸ¥¨ðŸ¥– |
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oleonard: Bug 30721: Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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AnneP |
Thanks oleonard. (sorry for my english, I'm french). When I import a new record, it doesn't work : the match is not made. So I went to this page : change Koha to marc mapping. It is surprising to me that so few of the fields are filled in! And for example, in the line biblio.abstract, I click "add" and put : 520,a but nothing happens |
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oleonard |
AnneP: No apologies necessary for your English, this is an international group. There are usually at least one or two French-speakers around actually. |
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oleonard |
AnneP: Did you do the step in the note on that page? "you must ask your administrator to run misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl" |
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caroline |
I was going to ask, when you say "nothing happens", does that mean that the page does not reflect the change? |
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AnneP |
Caroline : yes the page does not reflect the change. |
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Project Koha_21.11_D11 build #116: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.11_D11/116/ |
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koha-jenkins |
oleonard: Bug 30721: Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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AnneP |
Oleanard : when I run ./batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl I got some problems such as : unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 170. and DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed: Can't call method "get" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 61. at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Database.pm line 139 |
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caroline |
It's weird that there is nothing... usually there are default values and 520$a is already in biblio.abstract afaik |
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caroline |
I would check the logs the see if anything happens when you click 'Ok' to add the field |
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caroline |
Also, the fact that koha-conf.xml is not found is a problem in itself |
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alohabot |
🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo 🌮ðŸ¥ðŸ¥ |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_21.11_U18 build #94: FIXED in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.11_U18/94/ |
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koha-jenkins |
oleonard: Bug 30721: Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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AnneP |
Caroline : I don't understand either why I don't have default values... I looked at access.log and error.log (I'm not sure if it was the logs that should have been looked at) and nothing seems interesting. |
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caroline |
do you have an intranet-error.log? |
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oleonard |
AnneP: caroline is right that a koha-conf.xml error might be the root of many problems |
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liliputech |
evening koha |
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oleonard: Bug 30721: Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Markup error in detail page's component parts tab |
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AnneP |
Caroline : thanks, I have this in intranet-error.log (but does not correspond to now) : [2022/06/08 08:24:39] [WARN] Error _processRow_DB C4::ImportExportFramework::_processRow_DB(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_biblio`.`marc_subfield_structure`, CONSTRAINT `marc_subfield_structure_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`authorised_value`) REFERENCES `authorised_ |
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oleonard |
AnneP: How did you install Koha? |
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caroline |
It might be related because the mappings are based on the framework. If the frameworks aren't correctly installed, the mappings might not be functional |
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AnneP |
this page : cgi-bin/koha/admin/checkmarc.pl doesn't work (error 500). Perhaps the best thing to do is to reinstall koha ? |
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oleonard |
I think maybe so. |
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oleonard |
Watch carefully for any errors that show up during installation |
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AnneP |
Oleonard : i follow https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]e_a_Koha_instance (someone else has installed koha with the linux package) |
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AnneP |
How can I uninstall koha properly? |
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oleonard |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]kages#koha-remove |
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AnneP |
Thanks olenard and caroline. Bye |
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reiveune |
bye |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 30813: (follow-up) Fix tests import <https://git.koha-community.org[…]661935ecc253dae21> |
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🎠🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo ðŸ°ðŸœðŸ¢ |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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marcelr: stop breaking the tests, please :-P |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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tcohen |
c'mon green jenkins |
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Hi #koha :) |
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tuxayo |
Reminder: meeting in 2h |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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caroline |
Bug 27212 affects the table in which page? the 'all available funds' here? https://staff-caroline.sandbox[…]qui/acqui-home.pl |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, RESOLVED FIXED, Add column configuration to the acquisitions home page |
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caroline |
I'm asking bc I don't see the 'Columns' button and the table settings don't affect 'all available funds', but it's the only table I see in acqui-home, so I'm a bit lost |
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liliputech |
hi koha (for 2nd time of the day) |
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meeting in 10 min! |
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tuxayo |
rmain- wait, the list is likely out of date |
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cait |
here :) |
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liliputech |
here :) |
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tcohen |
here-ish |
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tuxayo |
meeting in 4 min! |
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tuxayo |
rmaints? |
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wahanui |
rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo |
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tuxayo |
qa_team? |
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wahanui |
qa_team is cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova and Joubu |
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tuxayo |
botsnack wahanui |
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tuxayo |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
:) |
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tuxayo |
:D |
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tuxayo |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jun 8 20:59:53 2022 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_8_june_2022' |
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tuxayo |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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tuxayo |
#info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo VoG, France |
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tcohen |
#info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Cordoba, Argentina |
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liliputech |
#info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre, France |
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cait |
hm if there are on more people we should decide something radical again :) |
| 21:01 |
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tuxayo |
rmaints? |
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wahanui |
rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo |
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tuxayo |
qa_team? |
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wahanui |
qa_team is, like, cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova and Joubu |
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mtj |
#info mason james, nz |
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mtj |
hi peeps |
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tuxayo |
hi ^^ |
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tuxayo |
cait: what was the last radical decision? ^^ |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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cait |
version numbering |
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tuxayo |
:o |
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liliputech |
any link to last meeting's minutes? :-' |
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tcohen |
rewrite the project in Rust |
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tuxayo |
RM said it, let's do it! |
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liliputech |
Whut?! ><' |
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tuxayo |
https://www.arewewebyet.org/ |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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tuxayo |
liliputech: meetings.koha-community.org/2022/development_irc_meeting_25_may_2022.2022-05-25-14.01.log.html |
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tuxayo |
https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-05-25-14.01.html |
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liliputech |
thx tuxayo! |
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liliputech |
oh, I was there :) |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, New Zealand |
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tuxayo |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
| 21:07 |
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tuxayo |
Anything to announce that doesn't fit the other points in the agenda? |
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tuxayo |
#link https://koha-community.org/koha-22-05-released Koha 22.05 released |
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tuxayo |
🎉 |
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liliputech |
BibLibre is having a internal camp last week of june, hopefully a good time to make a bugsquashing day with french librarians ? |
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liliputech |
from 27 of june up to 1st of july |
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cait |
no bad times for bug squashing |
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cait |
and early enough in the release for some big bugs too :) |
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liliputech |
tuxayo: if you're around, you should come over to Breteuil I guess :) |
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liliputech |
cait: any bugs you can think of? |
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tuxayo |
I wanted to do patch-testing sessions with french librarian like they do for translations. Great you had the same idea at BibLibre :D |
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cait |
#info Biblibre is having an internal camp from 27 of june up to 1st of july |
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tuxayo |
#info Need signoff queue is 250, help needed |
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davidnind |
#info Call for proposals for KohaCon22 closed on Friday 3rd June https://koha-us.org/events/con[…]s/kohacon22/#tab2 - approximately 21 submissions received |
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tuxayo |
liliputech: many ideas ↑ |
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cait |
liliputech: if you ask me when the date is closer, i can probably give some hints |
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davidnind |
NSO queue at 243 at the moment... |
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cait |
thanks to you in large parts :) |
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tuxayo |
> 21 submissions |
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tuxayo |
cool |
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fridolin |
#info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, Tahiti |
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liliputech |
cait: I know we are interested in community work on grouped-holds and calendar holds at BibLibre, and other contributors also have solutions on this. |
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davidnind |
I had it down to 235, but it has no crept up (better than the over 300 it was a few months ago I think...) |
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tuxayo |
davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
but everyone has been signing off on things, we keep adding things to it :-D |
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fridolin |
it is alive ! ^^ |
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liliputech |
davidnind: that's a good thing! |
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tuxayo |
anything else to announce? |
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tuxayo |
#topic Update from the Release manager (22.05) |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (22.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
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tuxayo |
tcohen: ðŸŽ™ï¸ |
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tuxayo |
*22.11 |
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tuxayo |
It's after work hours in Argentina I guess, so tcohen might not be available continuously. Maybe they will come back latter in the meeting. |
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tuxayo |
#topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
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tuxayo |
rmaints? |
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wahanui |
rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo |
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liliputech |
lukeg: you go first maybe since u'r the upest-stream? |
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tuxayo |
#info last release of 20.11 went well. I haven't touched 21.05, I will have some catch up on it. |
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tuxayo |
Likely lukeg isn't there so go liliputech |
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liliputech |
#info keeping up with 22.05.x branch, first time doing a release. hope all is going to be well. |
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fridolin |
We see a few backports on https://git.koha-community.org[…]ts/branch/22.05.x |
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liliputech |
#info I will be afk for the whole next week, 21.11.07 might be a little delayed. |
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* tuxayo |
sent a last minute meeting reminder to the folks at Catalyst, last time it worked (last time I forgot to tell them in the 1st place there was a meeting at a good time for Oceania ^^") |
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tuxayo |
liliputech: thanks for the info, no problem, the release can wait a few days. |
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tuxayo |
Did you check you have all the accesses though? Like on the website to post the release announcement. |
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liliputech |
tuxayo: verified my access to git repo (working) and manage the backports so far but may need some training on other tasks |
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tuxayo |
That + ssh for download.koha-community.org |
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liliputech |
is that in the wiki? didn't read all through maybe. seen that string freeze is on 15 and release on 22 (generally speaking). |
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liliputech |
(or forgot...) |
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tuxayo |
liliputech: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nce#Initial_setup |
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rangi[m] |
sorry, sorta here |
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tuxayo |
hi :) |
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tuxayo |
liliputech: Follow this to be sure you have the right access. Because some can take a few days because only one person has the rights. |
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fridolin |
liliputech: we can meet to see how goes the backport and also for first release |
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tuxayo |
#action tuxayo add requesting access for ssh access for download.koha-community.org in Initial_setup of rmaint doc |
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liliputech |
focused on git, got to catchup my training on everything else. thx for the alert tuxayo! thx fridolin for the meeting proposal :) |
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tuxayo |
moving on? |
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tuxayo |
yw liliputech |
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tuxayo |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
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tuxayo |
qa_team? |
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wahanui |
i guess qa_team is cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova and Joubu |
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cait |
QA queue is a little high right now, focusing on bugs right now |
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alexbuckley |
#info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT |
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alexbuckley |
apologies for the late arrival! |
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cait |
17 bugs waiting for QA atm |
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tuxayo |
hi :) |
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alexbuckley |
:) |
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* fridolin |
made its first passed QA and first failed QA |
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fridolin |
still warming up |
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cait |
we have a great team for this cycle and looking forward to see things moving smoothly |
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tuxayo |
Ah yes, focusing on bugs and not enhancements. |
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fridolin |
sure |
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cait |
yes, fridolin++ and aleisha++ too |
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tuxayo |
(17 bugs waiting) |
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cait |
for being 'new' on the team and QA'ing patches |
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fridolin |
focus on Recalls children bugs |
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tuxayo |
anything else? |
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wahanui |
anything else is necessarily going to be incremental. |
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tuxayo |
wise words about recalls indeed wahanui |
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cait |
hm nope |
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liliputech |
:) |
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davidnind |
#info Omnibus bug for recalls: Bug 29734 - [OMNIBUS] Recalls for Koha |
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tuxayo |
thanks |
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tuxayo |
#topic Status of roadmap projects |
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Topic for #koha is now Status of roadmap projects (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
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tuxayo |
#link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_22.11_roadmap Roadmap |
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thd |
Finishing some scripts for wiki update testing. |
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fridolin |
cool |
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tuxayo |
#info Tomas in an email: «Feel free to comment there or add the things you plan to work on during this cycle. If there are already bugs filed, please add links to them as well.» |
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thd |
Difficult to catch two days of concentrated time with extra work. |
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mtj |
hi thd, shall we colab via irc to work on the wiki project? |
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aleisha |
sorry im so late!! |
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tuxayo |
no problem, hi :) |
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aleisha |
#info Aleisha Amohia, Catalyst IT Wellington New Zealand |
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fridolin |
great to see you ;) |
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* fridolin |
waves across ocean in direction to NZ |
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thd |
Sure mtj |
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aleisha |
:D |
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tuxayo |
#topic Actions from last meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
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tuxayo |
«fridolin audits major and critical bugs (new, assigned and need signoff) » |
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tuxayo |
I guess that was for the release ^^ |
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tuxayo |
#topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
| 21:41 |
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cait |
mtj++ |
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tuxayo |
#info «Status of the LTS release: It looks like we are no longer supporting 19.11, does this mean we have a new "LTS" version now or has the idea been dropped? (LTS workflow proposal)» |
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cait |
that one was from me |
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tuxayo |
19.11 was never declared LTS last cycle, it's was like bonus ^^ |
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cait |
we had it as lts on the docs page |
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mtj |
thd, we have an element/matrix gateway to koha-irc too (if prefered) |
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cait |
and maybe some othe rspots |
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tuxayo |
:o |
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cait |
i noticed when updating |
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aleisha |
catalyst isn't maintaining it anymore |
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cait |
yes, that's ok |
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liliputech |
#info BibLibre deploys 21.11 to it's clients lately. |
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davidnind |
#info LTS workflow proposal https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]workflow_proposal |
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cait |
I think we had discussed to do 3 years and it was now 2.5 which is still pretty good. I liked the idea of an LTS and maybe we could decide what the next LTS to be would be? |
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tuxayo |
I advanced quite a bit on that document but at some point my brain exploded trying to find all the posibilites. |
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cait |
same here |
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fridolin |
we may define 21.11 as LTS if someone stiks to it |
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cait |
I fail to see which would be hte logical next one for an LTS |
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cait |
I think the oldstable would make sense |
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liliputech |
cait: oldstable is now 21.11? |
| 21:45 |
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tuxayo |
I having an LTS with 3 RMaint and leaving the possibility to upgrade every year. From XX.11 to XX.11 or XX.05 to XX.05 isn't possible |
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cait |
because stable is 22.05 |
| 21:45 |
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aleisha |
i agree 21.11 would be a good one |
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tuxayo |
There need to be some restriction in the posibilites for instances admins |
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cait |
i think bws is also updating to 21.11 or preparing for it? |
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liliputech |
fridolin: when you mean getting someone stix to it, you mean the Rmaint should be same for the 3 coming years? |
| 21:46 |
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davidnind |
so maintained for 2.5 years, then oldstable at that time becomes the next LTS? Should be a specific role for LTS version? |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
i think you'd be Rmaint LTS :) |
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fridolin |
liliputech: its a discussion to have on how/who indeed |
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cait |
i think 2.5 would be ok too if that is how it comes out now |
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liliputech |
cait: who's that "you" you're talking about? |
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* liliputech |
looking other his shoulder, seeing no one ^^ |
| 21:48 |
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fridolin |
maybe a specific role that takes action when version is older than oldoldstable |
| 21:48 |
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davidnind |
liliputech: I don't think it means it should be the same person for 3 years - just that someone fills the role each cycle |
| 21:48 |
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fridolin |
+1 ^ |
| 21:48 |
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liliputech |
ok :) |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
ah :) we already have a 21.11 maint now |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
if no one signs up, I might be willing to put my hat in later on |
| 21:48 |
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davidnind |
over time, there should be fewer and fewer items to backport - apart from security bugs |
| 21:49 |
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tuxayo |
> specific role for LTS version |
| 21:49 |
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tuxayo |
Maybe that should be the way. Having a role because we struggle to find 3 Rmaints but actually LTS RMaint is much lighter than stable and oldstable |
| 21:49 |
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cait |
yes, I think in a year it's mostly watching for security bugs |
| 21:49 |
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liliputech |
i think it's good to have rolling roles for each individuals to get better overall knowledge and thoughts on the global process |
| 21:49 |
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cait |
I tihnk waht I meant to say is that it's an RMaint role like the others, but a little lighter as we gt more and more careful with the older versions |
| 21:49 |
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fridolin |
https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences show 21.11 has more than 2000 |
| 21:50 |
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tuxayo |
> it's mostly watching for security bugs |
| 21:50 |
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tuxayo |
That and big tickets about compatibility, like to still work with a sported ElasticSearch version for example. |
| 21:50 |
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tuxayo |
In a sense, it's security also. |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
19.11 has some 'peek' in the data too |
| 21:51 |
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cait |
yes |
| 21:51 |
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tuxayo |
peak? |
| 21:51 |
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cait |
api stuff like that, breaking changes |
| 21:51 |
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cait |
maybe peak |
| 21:51 |
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liliputech |
cait |
| 21:52 |
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cait |
yes? |
| 21:52 |
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wahanui |
yes is something different :) |
| 21:52 |
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liliputech |
breaking changes? in an LTS?! |
| 21:52 |
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cait |
someone makes a change in an api we support |
| 21:52 |
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cait |
so it stops working in the version |
| 21:52 |
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rangi[m] |
ie amazon change their bookcovers |
| 21:52 |
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cait |
yes |
| 21:52 |
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tuxayo |
Could the LTS have an irregular release schedule? Otherwise, most of the work is making releases empty of commits but with just translation update. |
| 21:52 |
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rangi[m] |
then yeah we would have to backport it |
| 21:52 |
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liliputech |
cait: ok, that kind of breaking change (not on our side that means :)) |
| 21:53 |
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cait |
i think if there is nothing, you don't release that month |
| 21:53 |
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cait |
maybe just put a note up in the wiki |
| 21:53 |
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liliputech |
rangi[m]: +1 |
| 21:53 |
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rangi[m] |
19.11 could still be lts if someone else wanted to take it over, there was nothign to release this month |
| 21:53 |
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cait |
and urgent security woudl trigger an out of schedule release as well |
| 21:53 |
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tuxayo |
Ah yes |
| 21:54 |
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tuxayo |
So LTS RMaint could be a very little commitment if one sticks only to security and big breaking issues and releases only when needed. |
| 21:55 |
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cait |
a watching role and maybe triggering devs to make patches fit the old version yes |
| 21:56 |
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fridolin |
like a wine-maker, looking at good millesimes ^^ |
| 21:56 |
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cait |
heh |
| 21:56 |
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davidnind |
so, (1) LTS = 2.5 to 3 years (2) oldstable (which is now 21.11) or 19.11? (3) LTS role for each cycle (4) Mandate = security + things that are broken (APIs (external), dependencies (such as Elasticsearch), etc) (5) Irregular release - only when something is needed |
| 21:56 |
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cait |
so... do we agree on making 21.11 the next one labelled LTS? |
| 21:56 |
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tuxayo |
Yes, there is this more spread out commitment that for the few patches, it might be more effort to backport so far in time. |
| 21:56 |
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liliputech |
agreed |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
devs should help with that, but RMaint can alert |
| 21:57 |
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davidnind |
cait: +1 |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
for onw 21.11 will still be a normally maintained release... and it will age like good wine :) |
| 21:57 |
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tuxayo |
Yes, spread out as in falling to other people, the devs of the most critical patches |
| 21:58 |
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tuxayo |
that looks a great summary davidnind |
| 21:58 |
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liliputech |
davidnind: +1 |
| 21:58 |
|
cait |
mayve #info it? |
| 21:58 |
|
liliputech |
#info Hello, |
| 21:58 |
|
liliputech |
Les requêtes sont toujours de la forme : |
| 21:58 |
|
liliputech |
https://websvc.afi-sa.net/afi_[…]&api=2.0&action=7 |
| 21:59 |
|
liliputech |
Pour la table de correspondance entre la valeur du paramètre action et le type de donnée demandée au serveur de cache (vignette, bande-annonce, etc...): |
| 21:59 |
|
liliputech |
https://git.afi-sa.net/afi/web[…]fine_services.php |
| 21:59 |
|
liliputech |
Pour celle correspondant au types de doc (Document vidéo, livre, périodique), le README indique la correspondance : |
| 21:59 |
|
tuxayo |
he he |
| 21:59 |
|
liliputech |
https://git.afi-sa.net/afi/web[…]/master/README.md |
| 21:59 |
|
liliputech |
yups... |
| 21:59 |
|
tuxayo |
no objections to the summary, then: |
| 21:59 |
|
cait |
maybe just to remove the19.11 |
| 21:59 |
|
tuxayo |
Ah |
| 21:59 |
|
cait |
i think moving up now would be good |
| 22:00 |
|
tuxayo |
Maybe we could call on koha-devel if someone would like to continue 19.11 following the above guidelines? |
| 22:00 |
|
tuxayo |
Or just moving up |
| 22:00 |
|
fridolin |
and at the same time recrute for 21.11 LTS |
| 22:01 |
|
davidnind |
and add to mandate: only essential backports after it reaches ololdstable? |
| 22:01 |
|
fridolin |
or we could fill that role in 1 year |
| 22:01 |
|
cait |
but... we already have a recruit for 21.1 |
| 22:01 |
|
cait |
1 |
| 22:01 |
|
cait |
no need now :) |
| 22:01 |
|
fridolin |
yep i mean for 21.11 LTS |
| 22:01 |
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liliputech |
fridolin: time to choose when it becomes LTS :) |
| 22:01 |
|
cait |
i think in one year, we just need to make sure, we continually have an Rmaint for it |
| 22:01 |
|
tuxayo |
> and at the same time recrute for 21.11 LTS |
| 22:01 |
|
tuxayo |
I guess you mean to advertise that in 11 months, it will be a need? |
| 22:01 |
|
liliputech |
(that means, in a yr) |
| 22:02 |
|
fridolin |
people maybe want now to know if it will be an LTS |
| 22:02 |
|
cait |
I said I'd do it if needed, but secretly I hope it won't be much of an issue |
| 22:02 |
|
fridolin |
like we know it for Ubuntu LTS |
| 22:02 |
|
cait |
yes, advertise now |
| 22:02 |
|
cait |
but i think we don't need to worry about having the RMaint for the full cycle righ tnow |
| 22:02 |
|
fridolin |
they may choose this version instead of 22.05 |
| 22:03 |
|
cait |
we have liliputech for the next 6 months and then we go from there |
| 22:03 |
|
tuxayo |
No need for 19.11, good, there are some changes with updatedabase format that could be tedious anyway |
| 22:04 |
|
cait |
it's just a feeling - announcing a newer version LTS now might also give this some momentum |
| 22:04 |
|
tuxayo |
Should we already mark on the website that 21.11 is LTS with the expected support timeframe? |
| 22:04 |
|
cait |
I'd like that |
| 22:04 |
|
cait |
not sure wher eto put it on the website... |
| 22:04 |
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liliputech |
I'll do my best :) I'll see if I'm willing to continue RMaint on LTS or oldstable later. have to discuss also within BibLibre what's best for us |
| 22:05 |
|
cait |
at the moment it shows up here: https://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 22:05 |
|
davidnind |
so TS version summary so far, (1) LTS = 2.5 to 3 years (2) Start with oldstable (which is now 21.11) (3) LTS role for each cycle (4) Mandate = security + things that are broken (APIs (external), dependencies (such as Elasticsearch), etc) + essential backports only once past oldoldstable (5) Irregular release - only when something is needed once past oldoldstable (6) Let everyone know what LTS is and what we mean for support (website, mail |
| 22:05 |
|
davidnind |
ing list, manual section on supported versions, etc) |
| 22:05 |
|
cait |
liliputech: sure! didn't meant ot tie you to it forever :) |
| 22:06 |
|
davidnind |
so for such a long summary, hope haven't confiused things by adding oldoldstable |
| 22:06 |
|
liliputech |
cait: maybe when i next release 21.11 i can advertise for this? |
| 22:06 |
|
cait |
+1 |
| 22:06 |
|
* liliputech |
will try to keep that in mind |
| 22:07 |
|
tuxayo |
So you will call it append LTS to 21.11 in the few relevant places? |
| 22:07 |
|
liliputech |
tuxayo: +1 |
| 22:07 |
|
davidnind |
so for (3) to add LTS maintainer commitment is for the currently 6 monthly cycle |
| 22:08 |
|
tuxayo |
I guess we can keep that |
| 22:09 |
|
cait |
I think it doesn<'t need to be the same person all the tieme |
| 22:09 |
|
davidnind |
shall I open a bug and include the summary and things we need to do, get feedback (for a short period) to refine, complete actions, and then update in the relevant places including sending to mailing list? |
| 22:09 |
|
davidnind |
cait: that was what I was trying to reflect :) |
| 22:09 |
|
cait |
sorry, late :) |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
it's late... |
| 22:10 |
|
tuxayo |
davidnind: yes :D |
| 22:10 |
|
davidnind |
cait++ |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
a bug might be a starting poitn for changing the wiki and such |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
and the website |
| 22:10 |
|
wahanui |
i heard the website was updated |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
so this is an agreed right? |
| 22:10 |
|
davidnind |
wahanui: LOL |
| 22:10 |
|
wahanui |
davidnind: sorry... |
| 22:10 |
|
tuxayo |
+1 to ask if there are eventual objections/amendements in the list |
| 22:10 |
|
davidnind |
+1 |
| 22:10 |
|
* fridolin |
has to leave in 10min |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
.... does that count as a radical decision being made? :) |
| 22:11 |
|
cait |
probably not |
| 22:11 |
|
tuxayo |
yes, I was thinking about that XD |
| 22:11 |
|
davidnind |
#action davidnind to create bug to summarise discussions and next steps for LTS version of Koha |
| 22:11 |
|
tuxayo |
So no changes in the website and wiki for now |
| 22:11 |
|
cait |
if we want to ask for objections it needs to be via mailing list |
| 22:11 |
|
cait |
bugs don't get seen |
| 22:11 |
|
tuxayo |
#info LTS version summary |
| 22:12 |
|
tuxayo |
#info (1) LTS = 2.5 to 3 years (2) Start with oldstable (which is now 21.11) (3) LTS role for each cycle (4) Mandate = security + things that are broken (APIs (external), dependencies (such as Elasticsearch), etc) + essential backports only once past oldoldstable |
| 22:12 |
|
tuxayo |
#info (5) Irregular release - only when something is needed once past oldoldstable (6) Let everyone know what LTS is and what we mean for support (website, mailing list, manual section on supported versions, etc) |
| 22:12 |
|
liliputech |
shall i still advertise in next release? |
| 22:12 |
|
cait |
so we should either ask on ML or make the changes |
| 22:12 |
|
tuxayo |
davidnind: also advertise the ticket you open in the mailing list? |
| 22:13 |
|
davidnind |
will do |
| 22:13 |
|
liliputech |
we have to fix a deadline for NOGO response, otherwise you may get some late NOGO's (too bad for them?) |
| 22:14 |
|
liliputech |
or mail is for advertisement, not for a vote? |
| 22:14 |
|
tuxayo |
People are starting to get their annual leave so wait a few weeks if we want to be conservative? |
| 22:14 |
|
cait |
deadlines always help to not have things get stuck |
| 22:14 |
|
davidnind |
maybe for next 21.11 release indicate that it is proposed that 21.11 becomes the first(next?) LTS release - confirm or otherwise at next development meeting? |
| 22:15 |
|
cait |
we can announce and deadline would be next dev meeting? |
| 22:15 |
|
davidnind |
+1 |
| 22:15 |
|
liliputech |
ok for me |
| 22:15 |
|
cait |
ook all mapped out:) |
| 22:16 |
|
cait |
time to sleep :) |
| 22:16 |
|
liliputech |
yup |
| 22:16 |
|
tuxayo |
see ya |
| 22:16 |
|
cait |
bye #koha :) |
| 22:16 |
|
tuxayo |
#action davidnind request feedback for the above on the mailing list with next dev meeting (two weeks from now) as a deadline |
| 22:16 |
|
tuxayo |
LTS topic wrapped up, right? |
| 22:16 |
|
liliputech |
yep |
| 22:16 |
|
davidnind |
yep |
| 22:17 |
|
davidnind |
...until the next time we discuss it |
| 22:17 |
|
liliputech |
next time meeting? |
| 22:18 |
|
tuxayo |
#topic Gitlab policy changes, register Koha as an Open Source project proper? |
| 22:18 |
|
|
Topic for #koha is now Gitlab policy changes, register Koha as an Open Source project proper? (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
| 22:18 |
|
tuxayo |
no over yet ^^" |
| 22:18 |
|
tuxayo |
#info see email discussion: https://lists.koha-community.o[…]2-May/047081.html |
| 22:18 |
|
fridolin |
i bet we need Tomas for that |
| 22:19 |
|
davidnind |
Defer to next meeting or go with consensus from mailing list discussion - which seemed to be apply |
| 22:19 |
|
tuxayo |
#action tuxayo postpone topic Gitlab policy changes |
| 22:19 |
|
tuxayo |
#topic bug Some highlights |
| 22:19 |
|
|
Topic for #koha is now bug Some highlights (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
| 22:20 |
|
tuxayo |
#topic Some bug highlights |
| 22:20 |
|
|
Topic for #koha is now Some bug highlights (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 June 2022) |
| 22:20 |
|
tuxayo |
bug 28267 |
| 22:20 |
|
huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28267 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha-common package upgrade problem from 20.05.xx to 20.11.04-1 |
| 22:20 |
|
tuxayo |
Oh, I should looks at that |
| 22:20 |
|
tuxayo |
bug 30907 |
| 22:20 |
|
huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30907 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , List of checkouts won't load if item is recalled |
| 22:20 |
|
fridolin |
the number of >= major is huge |
| 22:20 |
|
liliputech |
from what i read : it can't be any of the koha service provider doing the action (non-profit). +do we actually use features advertised by gitlab in this program? |
| 22:20 |
|
aleisha |
i can try and prioritise some |
| 22:20 |
|
fridolin |
i've higlighted some critical ones |
| 22:21 |
|
tuxayo |
bug 30899 |
| 22:21 |
|
huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30899 critical, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to master , Upgrade sometimes fails at "Upgrade to 21.11.05.004" |
| 22:21 |
|
fridolin |
if anyone can also walk to double check |
| 22:21 |
|
liliputech |
that last one i will definitly have to backport |
| 22:21 |
|
tuxayo |
liliputech: 30899 might be for interest for you |
| 22:22 |
|
liliputech |
that's what he said :) |
| 22:22 |
|
fridolin |
yep its a hot backport one ;) |
| 22:22 |
|
tuxayo |
«it can't be any of the koha service provider doing the action (non-profit)» |
| 22:22 |
|
tuxayo |
I feel we don't belong in the non-profit program, I'll say in the list. |
| 22:22 |
|
davidnind |
liliputech: I think it is mainly the CD/CI minutes that we need, it would be the Koha Community applying |
| 22:23 |
|
tuxayo |
thanks aleisha |
| 22:23 |
|
liliputech |
davidnind: ok |
| 22:23 |
|
tuxayo |
«do we actually use features advertised by gitlab in this program?» |
| 22:23 |
|
tuxayo |
All our docker images are built by that IIUC |
| 22:23 |
|
fridolin |
liliputech: looks like you may cherry-pick the commits from 22.05.x, they look identic to patches |
| 22:23 |
|
tuxayo |
On every push on a stable branch, all the images for many OSes are built |
| 22:23 |
|
liliputech |
davidnind: isnt the ci/cd handled by jenkins? |
| 22:24 |
|
* fridolin |
has to go, have a nice day/night/between |
| 22:24 |
|
tuxayo |
see ya |
| 22:24 |
|
liliputech |
fridolin: waves |
| 22:24 |
|
tuxayo |
liliputech: jenkins runs the tests but it uses the image built by GitLab CI |
| 22:24 |
|
liliputech |
tuxayo: ok |
| 22:25 |
|
davidnind |
liliputech: don't know, the manual needs the minutes (takes about 45 mins to 1 hour for each commit, unless we change to doing at set times) |
| 22:25 |
|
liliputech |
'kay |
| 22:25 |
|
tuxayo |
Ah I forgot the manual |
| 22:26 |
|
davidnind |
unless someone wants to setup and maintain a gitlab stack! |
| 22:27 |
|
tuxayo |
Or find and instance that has CI and that could accept us for some money each month. |
| 22:27 |
|
tuxayo |
*an instance |
| 22:27 |
|
liliputech |
actually, some BibLibre's partner do host a gitlab instance :) and they use ci/cd. I don't know if they pay smthg for it though. |
| 22:27 |
|
liliputech |
(AFI) |
| 22:28 |
|
tuxayo |
that could be plan! |
| 22:28 |
|
tuxayo |
Or hopefully hosting the CI isn't as hard as hosting a whole GitLab and we still have the repos on gitlab.com and the CI runs elsewhere. |
| 22:28 |
|
davidnind |
should we set the time for the next meeting, and continue the discussion about GitLab on the mailing list until the next meeting? |
| 22:28 |
|
tuxayo |
I think you can host your own running. |
| 22:28 |
|
tuxayo |
ok |
| 22:29 |
|
tuxayo |
#Set time of next meeting |
| 22:29 |
|
liliputech |
hum. that must be discussed internally + that would make Koha depends on a single service provider... |
| 22:29 |
|
liliputech |
I will discuss the matter with the team :) |
| 22:29 |
|
liliputech |
(I mean the team hosting the gitlab instance) |
| 22:30 |
|
davidnind |
I think the Koha Communities approach is to generally use free and open source software, or be able to "easily" run it ourselves if things "turn to custard" |
| 22:30 |
|
davidnind |
..Community's |
| 22:30 |
|
tuxayo |
About the meeting in two week for Europe and Americas work hours, let's do the 22th then? |
| 22:30 |
|
davidnind |
liliputech++ |
| 22:30 |
|
davidnind |
+1 |
| 22:30 |
|
liliputech |
Being part of gitlab opensource program may also bring some visibility and new fellow devs :) |
| 22:31 |
|
liliputech |
er... can't be there on the 22th... will be in my afk week :( |
| 22:31 |
|
tuxayo |
About the meeting in 4 weeks for Oceania and Americas work hours, the 6th of july and same hour? (21 UTC) |
| 22:31 |
|
liliputech |
ok for the one on 6th july |
| 22:32 |
|
thd |
Be careful that Gitlab service can bring in some features which are not free software when you do not self host Gitlab. |
| 22:32 |
|
tuxayo |
+1 |
| 22:32 |
|
liliputech |
+1 |
| 22:32 |
|
tuxayo |
gitlab.com isn't the libre version |
| 22:33 |
|
tuxayo |
#info Next meeting: 22 June 2022, 14 UTC |
| 22:33 |
|
* liliputech |
keep in mind to discuss koha hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI. |
| 22:33 |
|
davidnind |
apart from the CD/CI minutes, I don't think we use any of the subscription only features |
| 22:33 |
|
tuxayo |
#action liliputech discuss koha CI (docker image built + manuall build) hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI. |
| 22:34 |
|
tuxayo |
I've noted to set the same hour for meeting in 4 weeks. |
| 22:34 |
|
tuxayo |
So we are done :) |
| 22:34 |
|
tuxayo |
#endmeeting |
| 22:34 |
|
|
Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org |
| 22:34 |
|
huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Jun 8 22:34:43 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 22:34 |
|
huginn |
Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-06-08-20.59.html |
| 22:34 |
|
huginn |
Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-06-08-20.59.txt |
| 22:34 |
|
huginn |
Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]08-20.59.log.html |
| 22:34 |
|
tuxayo |
thanks all for attending :) |
| 22:34 |
|
liliputech |
thk! |
| 22:35 |
|
liliputech |
good night :) |
| 22:35 |
|
tuxayo |
liliputech: «Being part of gitlab opensource program may also bring some visibility and new fellow devs :)» really? |
| 22:35 |
|
davidnind |
tuxayo++ |
| 22:35 |
|
tuxayo |
Isn't it just about having paid feature for free? |
| 22:35 |
|
aleisha |
tuxayo++ |
| 22:36 |
|
davidnind |
maybe we should still have the meeting in the next 2 weeks - but defer any items that need liliputech's input? |
| 22:36 |
|
tuxayo |
«that would make Koha depends on a single service provider...» |
| 22:36 |
|
tuxayo |
it's already a lot the case https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]te_Administration |
| 22:37 |
|
tuxayo |
davidnind: yes, if liliputech hasn't followed up on the mailing list, I'll defer to the meeting after. |
| 22:37 |
|
davidnind |
i the worst case scenario "we" could sit up a GitLab instance using the open source version, as well as things needed for CD/CI |
| 22:37 |
|
tuxayo |
> maybe we should still have the meeting in the next 2 weeks |
| 22:37 |
|
tuxayo |
It's planned. 22 June 2022, 14 UTC |
| 22:38 |
|
davidnind |
sorry, I misunderstood - having every 2 weeks keeps the momentum going... |
| 22:39 |
|
tuxayo |
alternating between Oceania-Americas and Americas-Europe cause that people can only attend a meeting every 4 weeks. |
| 22:39 |
|
tuxayo |
But they can still read the logs and leave stuff in the agenda for the meetings they can't attend. |
| 22:39 |
|
davidnind |
the main things with the tools we use (as long as we have backups) is that we can move to a new service provider if things aren't working |
| 22:41 |
|
davidnind |
we can all stay awake 24 hours :-D, but there is generally not a good sweet spot for meetings internationally that accommodates all contributors - moving around is the compromise |
| 22:41 |
|
tuxayo |
Having someone taking the time to solicit every hoster of out self hosted stuff to inspect the backup could be a good thing ^^ |
| 22:42 |
|
tuxayo |
*our self hosted stuff |
| 22:42 |
|
davidnind |
probably a good community governance thing - ideally we should have no single point of failure... |
| 22:44 |
|
tuxayo |
Indeed, I will raise the question of checking the backups. |
| 22:45 |
|
tuxayo |
> there is generally not a good sweet spot for meetings internationally that accommodates all contributors |
| 22:45 |
|
tuxayo |
Damn round earth! |
| 22:45 |
|
davidnind |
caroline: I'm going to do the merge requests today - if I haven't, feel free to fire away! |
| 22:45 |
|
tuxayo |
I wish the problem would be harder because we don't have much contributions from Asia. |
| 22:45 |
|
davidnind |
caroline: thanks for all your work! |
| 22:46 |
|
tuxayo |
> moving around is the compromise |
| 22:46 |
|
tuxayo |
yes, very happy that we started alternating again and that we have attendance from Oceania :) |
| 22:47 |
|
davidnind |
there is certainly a lot of activity and adoption in Asia, just not too much direct contribution to the Koha Community in terms of the code |
| 22:50 |
|
davidnind |
there was a KohaCon in Asia - KohaCon11 in Thane, India and KohaCon17 in the Phillipines |
| 22:50 |
|
tuxayo |
> lot of activity and adoption in Asia |
| 22:50 |
|
tuxayo |
Great :D What did you hear about it? |
| 22:50 |
|
tuxayo |
And Pakistan |
| 22:50 |
|
davidnind |
also, rangi has been the "Super Guest Star" at various conferences |
| 22:50 |
|
tuxayo |
he he |
| 22:51 |
|
davidnind |
Pakistan also, yes |
| 22:52 |
|
davidnind |
the Koha Facebook group has a lot of contributions/questions from Asia |
| 22:52 |
|
tuxayo |
:D |
| 22:53 |
|
tuxayo |
> not too much direct contribution |
| 22:53 |
|
tuxayo |
If we want to change that. How to do that? The only one I have is propose to Koha Pakistan session of patch testing with librarians. Any other ideas to outreach? Any other Asian communities besides Koha Pakistan? |
| 22:53 |
|
davidnind |
nothing specific about Asia - just from the social media and other things I get the impression that it is "big" and used a lot |
| 22:54 |
|
davidnind |
http://kohageek.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:55 |
|
davidnind |
I'm not sure, worthy of further discussion, particularly with those that have good contacts |
| 22:56 |
|
davidnind |
also https://vimal0212.wordpress.com/ |
| 22:59 |
|
tuxayo |
Ho, Malaysia :D |
| 23:00 |
|
tuxayo |
Thanks for the leads :) |
| 23:08 |
|
tuxayo |
Time to go, see ya :) |
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davidnind |
me too... |
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