IRC log for #koha, 2021-11-30

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00:13 tuxayo > dashboard looks like 2 U16 are failing, but not sure what the issue is
00:13 tuxayo looking at Jenkins we can even see that we are at one backported patch to have it full green :D
02:20 fridolin tuxayo: sure, i'll mail RMaints
02:21 tuxayo fridolin: it's just about us if we say that we don't wait for 21.05 and break the backport workflow for this time
02:22 tuxayo If Kyle turns out to be available to answer, they would likely backport the bug, that's the other solution
02:23 tuxayo about us: 19.11 isn't affected and if Kyle is swamped with other work that won't change.
02:24 tuxayo last 21.05.x minor is released anyway so no hurry for it
02:24 fridolin tuxayo: OK (little hamer sound), i prononce one back break the backport workflow
02:25 fridolin ill mail with that anwser
02:26 fridolin tuxayo: some old servers in the world may have Xenial running. I propose we wait for LTS 22.04 to say its obsolete
02:26 tuxayo too late
02:26 tuxayo last 21.05 was already released with a blocker and CI failing....
02:27 tuxayo so I hope no one on 21.05 & UB 16.04 & SIP will upgrade this month
02:29 tuxayo > I propose we wait for LTS 22.04 to say its obsolete
02:29 tuxayo +1 unless it becomes a burden to support, there is no reason to drop it now.
02:30 tuxayo > i prononce one back break the backport workflow
02:30 tuxayo "one back" ???
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06:56 * fridolin1 releasing 20.11.12
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07:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U21 build #17: FAILURE in 16 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_U21/17/
07:25 reiveune hello
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07:45 Jessedhammu Hi
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07:45 Jessedhammu i need some help with Koha rest on koha 19.xx to set to up with vufind , can anyone share any online resource that could be of help !?!?
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07:47 alex_a Bonjour
07:49 davidnind Jessedhammu: Vufind documentation: https://vufind.org/wiki/indexing:koha
07:50 davidnind a quick Google search shows several recent resources on connecting Koha with Vufind (I have no experience trying to setup integration, so hopefully others can offer their recent experiences)
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08:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #158: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_U18/158/
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08:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #159: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_U18/159/
08:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #164: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_D9/164/
08:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #170: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_U20/170/
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08:26 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:26 wahanui Congratulations!
08:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #144: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_U16/144/
08:33 ashimema morning 'koha
08:33 fridolin1 moring \o_
08:36 cait1 morning #koha
08:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #145: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_U16/145/
08:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #198: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_D11/198/
09:00 fridolin1 whooo 20.11 is good weather for my last release
09:00 fridolin1 pîouf
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09:01 cait1 for the German speakers... user meeting now ;)
09:03 magnuse \o/
09:03 magnuse davidnind++
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09:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #165: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_D9/165/
09:41 davidnind cait1: have a great user group meeting!
09:45 cait1 thx davidnind :)
09:46 cait1 we are on the second presetnation now - CSS in the OPAC
09:49 ashimema 🙂
10:19 cait1 if someone is interested, published slides are here https://www.db-thueringen.de/r[…]dbt_mods_00050303 including one about new features in 21.11 (I've heard Google translate kinda works)
10:26 cait1 davidnind++
10:45 fridolin1 see u
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10:50 tcohen hola
11:01 tcohen mtj[m]: plans for packaging?
11:01 tcohen need help with something?
11:04 cait1 i think he was on it last night, if you check logs
11:18 oleonard o/
11:25 tcohen o
11:25 tcohen \o
11:25 tcohen (Volley serve)
11:36 oleonard tcohen: Right before I woke up I dreamed someone was trying to teach me to play tennis
11:36 oleonard I was not good at it.
11:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:40 wahanui Congratulations!
11:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U21 build #18: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_U21/18/
11:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:54 wahanui Congratulations!
11:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #166: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_D9/166/
12:02 tcohen oleonard: I would love to teach you
12:02 oleonard :)
12:02 * tcohen is not exactly the best, though
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13:34 tcohen #koha who's running paste.koha-community.org?
13:35 tcohen I volunteer to run it on the server we donated, want to add SSL to it
13:36 cait1 tcohen: i think rangi
13:36 cait1 and please update wiki about host stuff :)
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13:53 tcohen of course
13:53 tcohen mtj: around?
13:54 tcohen @later tell mtj please ping me before releasing the 21.11 package
13:54 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:03 * oleonard got his booster
14:03 cait1 yay!
14:05 tcohen oleonard++
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14:28 magnuse did we ever use something called yepnope.js? oleonard?
14:28 oleonard Sounds familiar, why?
14:29 magnuse someone pointed out it was deprecated a long time ago
14:29 magnuse but i can't seem to find it in koha...
14:31 magnuse or to be more precise: someone said the version in koha 20.11.09 was "end of life" in 2015
14:33 oleonard The only reference I find is in bootstrap/lib/modernizr.min.js
14:34 oleonard The tricks I've tried to search deleted files doesn't find it
14:35 magnuse ah, thanks for the tip
14:46 oleonard Looks like we can safely remove Modernizr
14:47 oleonard We're no longer trying to support any browsers that lack the matchMedia feature
15:25 cait1 kill all the dead code :)
15:32 ashimema lol
15:33 ashimema how does one kill something that's already dead?
15:33 ashimema are they zombies?
15:33 ashimema decapitate all the zombie code!
15:35 cait1 :P
15:35 cait1 cya later #koha
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15:38 reiveune bye
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15:43 tcohen ashimema++
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16:35 maya-das hi
16:35 wahanui que tal, maya-das
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16:48 maya-das hi
16:48 wahanui bidet, maya-das
16:53 maya-das want to show LibraryNameTitle after "›" - Single Right-Pointing Angle Quotation Mark on every page --- does anyone knows how to do it without touching the .tt pages
16:55 maya-das in <title> </title> tag
16:58 maya-das if anyone knows pleas reply - have a good day !!!!!!!!!!!
17:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #106: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_U18/106/
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17:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:06 wahanui Congratulations!
17:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #115: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_U16/115/
17:10 maya-das in <title> </title> tag We want to show LibraryNameTitle after "&rsaquo;" - Single Right-Pointing Angle Quotation Mark on every page --- does anyone knows how to do it without touching the .tt pages
17:14 oleonard maya-das: Can you explain more?
17:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #43: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_D12/43/
17:15 oleonard maya-das: Perhaps you should show an example somehow?
17:18 maya-das oleonard : on https://search.myacpl.org/cgi-[…]ha/opac-search.pl LibraryNameTitle which is "athens county public library catalog" comes after ">" --- Single Right-Pointing Angle Quotation Mark  and in other koha catalog  the default order is reverse
17:21 oleonard It's a difference in Koha versions. Older versions show the reverse.
17:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U21 build #35: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U21/35/
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17:23 oleonard Did you see my response maya-das_ ?
17:25 davidnind maya-das: Add your library name to the LibraryName system preference
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17:30 maya-das_ oleonard : do you have any rough  idea when the this change took place ....   because the search.myacpl.org koha catalog version looks very recent ..... just wants to know any html  or css chage might be able  render the results we expected......
17:32 oleonard search.myacpl.org (my library's catalog) is 21.05
17:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #116: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_U20/116/
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17:37 maya-das davidind : adding library name, its just replaces the word "koha online" but the order is the same ........... take a look at the code from opac-detail.pl page ------ <title>[% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog &rsaquo; Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %]</title>
17:41 oleonard maya-das: The order of the elements in the page title changed between 20.11 and 21.05
17:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #131: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_D11/131/
17:51 davidnind Nice koha-US Q&A session on right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWOJ-otwgoM
17:57 maya-das oleonard: can i ask you, do you know any possible way to reverse the order ....
17:58 oleonard I don't know of a simple way to do it, no.
18:00 maya-das looks like we have to do like similar to this - <title>Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %] &rsaquo; [% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog</title> .................       on every page
18:01 oleonard maya-das: That's the order you want? Page information first, then library information?
18:01 maya-das yes ...
18:05 maya-das you are saying that elements changed between 20.11 and 21.05 ........ just looked for code of same page at https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]es/opac-detail.tt ......... it's the same in 21.05 ........<title>[% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog &rsaquo; Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %]</title>
18:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U21 build #36: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U21/36/
18:06 maya-das oleonard : ok...  thank you for your kind support ---- have a nice day ....
18:08 maya-das oleonard : you are saying that elements changed between 20.11 and 21.05 ........ just looked for code of same page at https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]es/opac-detail.tt ......... it's the same in 21.05 ........<title>[% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog &rsaquo; Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %]</ti
18:09 oleonard https://git.koha-community.org[…]es/opac-detail.tt
18:09 oleonard Github is not Koha's main repository.
18:13 maya-das we are now at 20.11.... so simply  need to upgrade to 21.05 :-)
18:14 maya-das oleonard - thank you :-)
18:14 oleonard You're welcome!
18:21 maya-das oleonard - just another question, you are saying it's your library myacpl.org --- can you suggest a CMS so we can design a simple and concise website like - https://www.myacpl.org/lists/n[…]ndnoteworthykids/
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19:33 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
19:33 wahanui Congratulations!
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20:02 mtj hi tcohen, whats up re 21.11 release?
20:05 mtj im planning to release now
20:09 mtj tcohen: if i miss you on irc, send me an email with the info
20:13 tcohen mtj: I submitted a follow-up on bug 15067
20:13 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ethan.amohia, REOPENED , Add additional languages to advanced search language search
20:13 tcohen it was an easy miss
20:13 tcohen it only affects new installs
20:14 tcohen but we can solve it in .01 with a new atomic updated
20:17 mtj tcohen: ok, ill apply patch and repackage
20:23 tcohen don't
20:23 tcohen haha
20:24 tcohen I think I missed two more cases, fridolin ?
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20:29 mtj hi tcohen: all new packages need the patch?
20:30 tcohen I'm updating 'the patch'
20:30 tcohen and is 21.11
20:31 tcohen this hasn't been backported
20:31 tcohen and the severity... is low
20:31 mtj yep ok
20:32 tcohen it will affect new installs, if we add more languages in the future
20:32 tcohen so can wait until .01
20:34 fridolin hi there (me reading)
20:34 mtj i'm happy to leave patch to .01
20:35 tcohen great
20:35 tcohen I'll file a separate bug, and the QA team reviews it properly
20:35 fridolin sound minor, leave it to .01
20:36 fridolin i bet most production installs wait for .04 or .05 of a release, Biblibre waits for .06
21:06 mtj Koha packages are available 🎁
21:33 fridolin Great thanks
21:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.11_D10 build #10: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.11_D10/10/
21:50 fridolin mtj there sould be soon a new release on 20.05.x for U16 compat
22:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #133: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_D11/133/
22:41 fridolin https://blog.emojipedia.org/emojis-are-folklore/
22:41 fridolin whaaaaaou
22:41 fridolin Library of Congress in the plaec
22:41 fridolin palce
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23:13 tuxayo hi all :)
23:13 tuxayo fridolin and mtj I'll now backport the fix for UB16.04 and release 20.05.x.
23:13 tuxayo Yesterday it was a bit too late for me to do it when fridolin's announce came to unblock the thing
23:21 fridolin no pb
23:21 fridolin so you release 20.05.19 right ?
23:23 tuxayo fridolin: 18
23:23 tcohen does an ALTER TABLE cause an implicit commit on MariaDB?
23:24 tuxayo tcohen: it seem yes
23:24 tuxayo https://mariadb.com/kb/en/star[…]n/#ddl-statements
23:25 tuxayo https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-4259
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23:25 tuxayo found in answers and comments of https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]ents-in-major-sql
23:26 fridolin tuxayo: ah oki .18 is not yet out. Perfect
23:27 * fridolin lunch time
23:27 * tuxayo diner time

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