Time  Nick         Message
00:13 tuxayo       > dashboard looks like 2 U16 are failing, but not sure what the issue is
00:13 tuxayo       looking at Jenkins we can even see that we are at one backported patch to have it full green :D
02:20 fridolin     tuxayo: sure, i'll mail RMaints
02:21 tuxayo       fridolin: it's just about us if we say that we don't wait for 21.05 and break the backport workflow for this time
02:22 tuxayo       If Kyle turns out to be available to answer, they would likely backport the bug, that's the other solution
02:23 tuxayo       about us: 19.11 isn't affected and if Kyle is swamped with other work that won't change.
02:24 tuxayo       last 21.05.x minor is released anyway so no hurry for it
02:24 fridolin     tuxayo: OK (little hamer sound), i prononce one back break the backport workflow
02:25 fridolin     ill mail with that anwser
02:26 fridolin     tuxayo: some old servers in the world may have Xenial running. I propose we wait for LTS 22.04 to say its obsolete
02:26 tuxayo       too late
02:26 tuxayo       last 21.05 was already released with a blocker and CI failing....
02:27 tuxayo       so I hope no one on 21.05 & UB 16.04 & SIP will upgrade this month
02:29 tuxayo       > I propose we wait for LTS 22.04 to say its obsolete
02:29 tuxayo       +1 unless it becomes a burden to support, there is no reason to drop it now.
02:30 tuxayo       > i prononce one back break the backport workflow
02:30 tuxayo       "one back" ???
06:56 * fridolin1  releasing 20.11.12
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07:25 reiveune     hello
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07:45 Jessedhammu  Hi
07:45 Jessedhammu  i need some help with Koha rest on koha 19.xx to set to up with vufind , can anyone share any online resource that could be of help !?!?
07:47 alex_a       Bonjour
07:49 davidnind    Jessedhammu: Vufind documentation: https://vufind.org/wiki/indexing:koha
07:50 davidnind    a quick Google search shows several recent resources on connecting Koha with Vufind (I have no experience trying to setup integration, so hopefully others can offer their recent experiences)
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08:26 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:26 wahanui      Congratulations!
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08:33 ashimema     morning 'koha
08:33 fridolin1    moring \o_
08:36 cait1        morning #koha
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09:00 fridolin1    whooo 20.11 is good weather for my last release
09:00 fridolin1    pîouf
09:01 cait1        for the German speakers... user meeting now ;)
09:03 magnuse      \o/
09:03 magnuse      davidnind++
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09:41 davidnind    cait1: have a great user group meeting!
09:45 cait1        thx davidnind :)
09:46 cait1        we are on the second presetnation now - CSS in the OPAC
09:49 ashimema     🙂
10:19 cait1        if someone is interested, published slides are here https://www.db-thueringen.de/receive/dbt_mods_00050303 including one about new features in 21.11 (I've heard Google translate kinda works)
10:26 cait1        davidnind++
10:45 fridolin1    see u
10:50 tcohen       hola
11:01 tcohen       mtj[m]: plans for packaging?
11:01 tcohen       need help with something?
11:04 cait1        i think he was on it last night, if you check logs
11:18 oleonard     o/
11:25 tcohen       o
11:25 tcohen       \o
11:25 tcohen       (Volley serve)
11:36 oleonard     tcohen: Right before I woke up I dreamed someone was trying to teach me to play tennis
11:36 oleonard     I was not good at it.
11:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:40 wahanui      Congratulations!
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11:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:54 wahanui      Congratulations!
11:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #166: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/166/
12:02 tcohen       oleonard: I would love to teach you
12:02 oleonard     :)
12:02 * tcohen     is not exactly the best, though
13:34 tcohen       #koha who's running paste.koha-community.org?
13:35 tcohen       I volunteer to run it on the server we donated, want to add SSL to it
13:36 cait1        tcohen: i think rangi
13:36 cait1        and please update wiki about host stuff :)
13:53 tcohen       of course
13:53 tcohen       mtj: around?
13:54 tcohen       @later tell mtj please ping me before releasing the 21.11 package
13:54 huginn`      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:03 * oleonard   got his booster
14:03 cait1        yay!
14:05 tcohen       oleonard++
14:28 magnuse      did we ever use something called yepnope.js? oleonard?
14:28 oleonard     Sounds familiar, why?
14:29 magnuse      someone pointed out it was deprecated a long time ago
14:29 magnuse      but i can't seem to find it in koha...
14:31 magnuse      or to be more precise: someone said the version in koha 20.11.09 was "end of life" in 2015
14:33 oleonard     The only reference I find is in bootstrap/lib/modernizr.min.js
14:34 oleonard     The tricks I've tried to search deleted files doesn't find it
14:35 magnuse      ah, thanks for the tip
14:46 oleonard     Looks like we can safely remove Modernizr
14:47 oleonard     We're no longer trying to support any browsers that lack the matchMedia feature
15:25 cait1        kill all the dead code :)
15:32 ashimema     lol
15:33 ashimema     how does one kill something that's already dead?
15:33 ashimema     are they zombies?
15:33 ashimema     decapitate all the zombie code!
15:35 cait1        :P
15:35 cait1        cya later #koha
15:38 reiveune     bye
15:43 tcohen       ashimema++
16:35 maya-das     hi
16:35 wahanui      que tal, maya-das
16:48 maya-das     hi
16:48 wahanui      bidet, maya-das
16:53 maya-das     want to show LibraryNameTitle after "›" - Single Right-Pointing Angle Quotation Mark on every page --- does anyone knows how to do it without touching the .tt pages
16:55 maya-das     in <title> </title> tag
16:58 maya-das     if anyone knows pleas reply - have a good day !!!!!!!!!!!
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17:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:06 wahanui      Congratulations!
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17:10 maya-das     in <title> </title> tag We want to show LibraryNameTitle after "&rsaquo;" - Single Right-Pointing Angle Quotation Mark on every page --- does anyone knows how to do it without touching the .tt pages
17:14 oleonard     maya-das: Can you explain more?
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17:15 oleonard     maya-das: Perhaps you should show an example somehow?
17:18 maya-das     oleonard : on https://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl LibraryNameTitle which is "athens county public library catalog" comes after ">" --- Single Right-Pointing Angle Quotation Mark  and in other koha catalog  the default order is reverse
17:21 oleonard     It's a difference in Koha versions. Older versions show the reverse.
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17:23 oleonard     Did you see my response maya-das_ ?
17:25 davidnind    maya-das: Add your library name to the LibraryName system preference
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17:30 maya-das_    oleonard : do you have any rough  idea when the this change took place ....   because the search.myacpl.org koha catalog version looks very recent ..... just wants to know any html  or css chage might be able  render the results we expected......
17:32 oleonard     search.myacpl.org (my library's catalog) is 21.05
17:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #116: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U20/116/
17:37 maya-das     davidind : adding library name, its just replaces the word "koha online" but the order is the same ........... take a look at the code from opac-detail.pl page ------ <title>[% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog &rsaquo; Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %]</title>
17:41 oleonard     maya-das: The order of the elements in the page title changed between 20.11 and 21.05
17:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #131: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/131/
17:51 davidnind    Nice koha-US Q&A session on right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWOJ-otwgoM
17:57 maya-das     oleonard: can i ask you, do you know any possible way to reverse the order ....
17:58 oleonard     I don't know of a simple way to do it, no.
18:00 maya-das     looks like we have to do like similar to this - <title>Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %] &rsaquo; [% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog</title> .................       on every page
18:01 oleonard     maya-das: That's the order you want? Page information first, then library information?
18:01 maya-das     yes ...
18:05 maya-das     you are saying that elements changed between 20.11 and 21.05 ........ just looked for code of same page at https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/20.11.x/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/opac-detail.tt ......... it's the same in 21.05 ........<title>[% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog &rsaquo; Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %]</title>
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18:06 maya-das     oleonard : ok...  thank you for your kind support ---- have a nice day ....
18:08 maya-das     oleonard : you are saying that elements changed between 20.11 and 21.05 ........ just looked for code of same page at https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/20.11.x/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/opac-detail.tt ......... it's the same in 21.05 ........<title>[% IF ( LibraryNameTitle ) %][% LibraryNameTitle | html %][% ELSE %]Koha online[% END %] catalog &rsaquo; Details for: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title-head.inc' %]</ti
18:09 oleonard     https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/modules/opac-detail.tt
18:09 oleonard     Github is not Koha's main repository.
18:13 maya-das     we are now at 20.11.... so simply  need to upgrade to 21.05 :-)
18:14 maya-das     oleonard - thank you :-)
18:14 oleonard     You're welcome!
18:21 maya-das     oleonard - just another question, you are saying it's your library myacpl.org --- can you suggest a CMS so we can design a simple and concise website like - https://www.myacpl.org/lists/newandnoteworthykids/
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19:33 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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20:02 mtj          hi tcohen, whats up re 21.11 release?
20:05 mtj          im planning to release now
20:09 mtj          tcohen: if i miss you on irc, send me an email with the info
20:13 tcohen       mtj: I submitted a follow-up on bug 15067
20:13 huginn`      Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ethan.amohia, REOPENED , Add additional languages to advanced search language search
20:13 tcohen       it was an easy miss
20:13 tcohen       it only affects new installs
20:14 tcohen       but we can solve it in .01 with a new atomic updated
20:17 mtj          tcohen: ok, ill apply patch and repackage
20:23 tcohen       don't
20:23 tcohen       haha
20:24 tcohen       I think I missed two more cases, fridolin ?
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20:29 mtj          hi tcohen: all new packages need the patch?
20:30 tcohen       I'm updating 'the patch'
20:30 tcohen       and is 21.11
20:31 tcohen       this hasn't been backported
20:31 tcohen       and the severity... is low
20:31 mtj          yep ok
20:32 tcohen       it will affect new installs, if we add more languages in the future
20:32 tcohen       so can wait until .01
20:34 fridolin     hi there (me reading)
20:34 mtj          i'm happy to leave patch to .01
20:35 tcohen       great
20:35 tcohen       I'll file a separate bug, and the QA team reviews it properly
20:35 fridolin     sound minor, leave it to .01
20:36 fridolin     i bet most production installs wait for .04 or .05 of a release, Biblibre waits for .06
21:06 mtj          Koha packages are available 🎁
21:33 fridolin     Great thanks
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21:50 fridolin     mtj there sould be soon a new release on 20.05.x for U16 compat
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22:41 fridolin     https://blog.emojipedia.org/emojis-are-folklore/
22:41 fridolin     whaaaaaou
22:41 fridolin     Library of Congress in the plaec
22:41 fridolin     palce
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23:13 tuxayo       hi all :)
23:13 tuxayo       fridolin and mtj I'll now backport the fix for UB16.04 and release 20.05.x.
23:13 tuxayo       Yesterday it was a bit too late for me to do it when fridolin's announce came to unblock the thing
23:21 fridolin     no pb
23:21 fridolin     so you release 20.05.19 right ?
23:23 tuxayo       fridolin: 18
23:23 tcohen       does an ALTER TABLE cause an implicit commit on MariaDB?
23:24 tuxayo       tcohen: it seem yes
23:24 tuxayo       https://mariadb.com/kb/en/start-transaction/#ddl-statements
23:25 tuxayo       https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-4259
23:25 tuxayo       found in answers and comments of https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4692690/is-it-possible-to-roll-back-create-table-and-alter-table-statements-in-major-sql
23:26 fridolin     tuxayo: ah oki .18 is not yet out. Perfect
23:27 * fridolin   lunch time
23:27 * tuxayo     diner time