IRC log for #koha, 2021-11-01

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08:25 marcelr hi #koha
08:25 ashimema anyone care to remind me how to update table configurations.. i.e. columns_settings stuff?
08:25 ashimema my brain is drawing a blank this morning
08:30 ashimema is it as simple as just updateing admin/column_settings.yaml
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09:31 ashimema marcelr++
09:31 ashimema sounds like you're on the case for bug 29330..
09:31 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29330 blocker, P5 - low, ---,, ASSIGNED , Koha cannot send emails with attachments using Koha::Email and message_queue table
09:31 ashimema when I started digging there, I couldn't see any easy way out
09:32 ashimema either we need to pass fully formed Email::Mime's again as we used to for Mail::Sendmail.. or we need to store attachments separately and attach them at send time
09:32 ashimema be interested to see if you can find a middle ground or which option to go for
09:32 ashimema count me for testing/qa
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09:58 * cait waves
09:59 cait tuxayo: yu
09:59 ashimema Thanks for the QA's over the weekend cait 🙂
09:59 ashimema just going through and fixing issues 🙂
09:59 ashimema filling up your inbox again 😛
09:59 cait usually the problem is all the new and changed strings, tuxayo
09:59 cait i can see hea
09:59 cait argh my hand fell asleep
09:59 ashimema hehe
09:59 cait ok, trying again
10:00 cait i can see that and you are lucky that we got a holiday today :)
10:00 ashimema mwahaha
10:00 cait that's why I am late with QA mail too
10:00 cait btw 2 patches of mine in qa queue *cough*
10:00 ashimema this release suddenly seems to be shaping up..
10:00 cait they always kinda do
10:01 ashimema enhancements cait?
10:01 cait yes
10:01 ashimema I don't see any in the bugs queue
10:01 * ashimema has been trying to concentrate on 'bugs' of late.
10:01 cait but we still got time for the small ones
10:02 cait hard feature freeeze is this week
10:02 ashimema ah, i see them
10:02 ashimema will take a quick look
10:02 cait thanks, they are not big, a comment would be nice already
10:02 ashimema yeah.. I've been battling through.. there just seemed allot of bugs so I thought it pertinent to focus my efforts a little
10:03 * ashimema is always happy to act on requests though:)
10:03 ashimema marc editor capitals aye
10:03 cait controversioal one
10:04 ashimema Honestly.. I'm not a cataloguer so struggle to know what way that jump.. I'll grab a trainer here and ask their opinion..
10:04 cait fair
10:04 ashimema Personally.. being case agnostic seems OK..
10:04 cait as i said a comment is already nice
10:05 ashimema But this isn't case agnostic is it .. it's case sensitive.. so 'a' and 'A' can coexist?
10:05 cait yes
10:05 cait if you need extra fields
10:05 cait it's the only way currently and it works, i know others have been using it too
10:06 cait it's not MARC standard
10:06 ashimema Interesting.. I'll read the bug
10:06 cait the form with the change doesn't advertise it
10:06 cait it just allows it
10:06 cait currently you have to select from a 999 entries long pull down
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10:08 cait hi oleonard :)
10:08 oleonard Hi :)
10:08 marcelr ashimema: i was writing a hack so ugly that i am continuing that road
10:08 ashimema mail marcelr?
10:08 marcelr yes
10:08 ashimema yeah.. it aint simple is it.
10:09 marcelr it needs more attention than quick fixing
10:09 ashimema thanks for taking it on.
10:09 ashimema I just couldn't commit the time ☹️
10:09 marcelr and it is only used minimally
10:09 marcelr overdues
10:09 marcelr for email blobs
10:10 * cait deletes 105 branches from last month *harr*
10:15 ashimema lol.. my history of that bug is funny
10:15 ashimema trying to coax it forward a number of times
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10:41 cait marcelr: just bad if you use that feature i guess... i'd be happy with another way to get those notices out of Koha easily
10:42 cait marcelr: so attaching the marc files to carts and lists is not effected?
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10:59 oleonard cait: Thanks for all your QA work
10:59 cait Putti++ too
10:59 cait oleonard: i am around today - just throw things at me :)
11:00 oleonard I'll be trying to clean up the issues you found with my Flatpickr patches today
11:00 cait that would be great thx
11:10 marcelr cait i did not come across the marc attachment now, but i remember seeing bad mime encoding before (so might be affected too yes)
11:10 ashimema how mean should I be regards tests and SIP?
11:11 ashimema I feel like bug 23640 should have included a unit test to prove the caching was getting reset for every connection..
11:11 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23640 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, CLOSED FIXED, L1 cache too long in SIP Server
11:11 cait i am not usre how easy/hard that is to do
11:11 ashimema now I think bug 26871 should have such a unit test to prove caching is reset for each request
11:11 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26871 major, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Signed Off , L1 cache still too long in SIP Server
11:11 ashimema indeed..
11:12 ashimema it's a bit like the EDI challenges I have
11:13 ashimema there's very little prior art.. so writing tests is hard
11:15 cait ashimema: tiny follow-up request on bug 27360
11:15 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27360 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Libraries should be able to pick which branches display on the public 'Libraries' page
11:17 cait I can add it but maybe need a little help with phrasing
11:18 ashimema 'Visibile in OPAC:' better?
11:19 cait yes and no
11:19 cait i had been thinking about that
11:19 ashimema mm
11:19 ashimema it's not easy
11:19 cait but it's still visible in a lot of places
11:19 cait i think i'd just put a hint on the input
11:19 ashimema 'Advertised in OPAC'?
11:19 cait i think we should name it Libraires page
11:19 cait in OPAC is too general too
11:20 cait i see that you modeled it after pickup location
11:20 cait but lookin at the item types page I wonder why we do not have checkboxes lol
11:20 cait ok, another fish to fry afor another day
11:21 ashimema fair
11:21 cait If set to yes, this library's information will display on the Libraries page in the OPAC
11:21 ashimema patch attached
11:21 cait oh
11:21 cait i was just writin git up
11:22 ashimema lol
11:22 cait can i change it to "on"?
11:22 ashimema happy for you to replace mine
11:22 ashimema certainly
11:22 cait :)
11:22 * ashimema was just picking off a few low hanging fruit bugs
11:22 cait if you are ok, i am going to add mine, because it's done and less steps with git
11:22 ashimema more than happy for people to refine them
11:23 * ashimema needs tea... and should really get back to the support desk and clearing down his queue
11:23 cait tea sounds good, hope only nice tickets
11:23 ashimema fixing weird EDI fringe cases is so unappealing right now though...
11:26 cait oh
11:27 cait yes, I can understand that
11:28 cait ashimema: are you still around kinda? I am going to venture into setting up ill backends once more
11:29 ashimema yup
11:29 cait i killed my box, so have to start over
11:30 ashimema[…]a-plugin-ill-koha
11:30 cait ere... stop leaving us...
11:30 * ashimema thinks the freeform should get moved there too
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11:30 * cait hands ere the duct tape
11:31 oleonard cait: Immediately after the release we should all get you up and running on KTD
11:31 cait i know...
11:31 ere cait: Sweet, thanks! Bad wifi...
11:31 cait but it might require a ceratin amount of hand holding
11:32 oleonard cait: I'm personally offering handholding, although I'm just a user and not an expert.
11:32 cait oleonard: much appreciated :)
11:33 cait i know i have kept pushing it off... I'll tackle it after release
11:34 cait ashimema: wondering, the instructions on the plugin still read like the original backendss (clone repo etc.)
11:34 ashimema mm
11:34 ashimema i just noticed that
11:34 ashimema not good
11:35 ashimema and it appears behind the ptfs-e repo too ☹️
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11:36 cait i'll use the standard repo for now
11:50 cait ashimema: i think i got it running first try this time :)
11:52 ashimema nice one
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12:50 cait oleonard-away: on bug 28453
12:50 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28453 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update pagination subroutine to generate Bootstrap markup
12:58 cait Joubu: around today?
13:12 tcohen hola #koha
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13:19 cait hola tcohen
13:30 oleonard-away tcohen: Do I remember correctly that there is a way to add your own commands to the KTD launch procedure?
13:30 tcohen what do you mean?
13:30 tcohen in docker, you can override the 'startup script'
13:31 tcohen is that what you mean?
13:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #90: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U16/90/
13:34 oleonard tcohen: Like if I want to run an npm package install automatically
13:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U21 build #12: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U21/12/
13:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:48 wahanui Congratulations!
13:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #83: FIXED in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]1.05_U_Stable/83/
13:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #93: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U20/93/
13:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:56 wahanui Congratulations!
13:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D10 build #130: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_D10/130/
14:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #84: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U18/84/
14:05 * ashimema wishes the 'Patches pushed for release 21.11' in the dashboard worked
14:06 cait me too :)
14:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #87: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_21.05_D9/87/
14:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #21: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_D12/21/
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14:38 oleonard I'm really confused by the problem with Bug 29212 :(
14:38 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use Flatpickr on OPAC pages
14:42 cait sorry for that one
14:42 cait can you reproduce?
14:43 oleonard Yes
14:43 cait ok... so it's real... meh
14:44 oleonard The dropdown doesn't work *and* arrow key navigation doesn't work
14:45 oleonard But the same thing in the staff interface -- suspend hold modal -- works fine.
14:45 oleonard ...although it's done slightly differently, so maybe there's something there.
14:45 cait mean
14:45 cait soemthing different in the includes/libraries etc?
14:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #91: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U16/91/
14:50 ashimema @later tell fridolin could you QA bug 28236.. I believe you use dev installs still so hopefulyl understand the need
14:50 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
14:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #107: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_D11/107/
14:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:50 wahanui Congratulations!
14:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U21 build #13: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U21/13/
14:50 ashimema humm
14:51 nugged mates, anyone had experience with installation of MARC::File::XML (in deep, that problem actually from MARC::Charset) over decent (5.34.0) Perl?
14:51 nugged It's installing well on 5.32.1, but fails in 5.34.0 when doing "make" with the error:
14:51 nugged ```gdbm_fetch: Item not found at blib/lib/MARC/Charset/ line 89.```
14:51 nugged (as I debugged with values – that die happens when marc8_key is 'B' utf8_key is '27' and frozen with something like "MARC::Charset::Code001Bucs1B​marc<control>name42charset")
14:51 nugged (not directly Koha related, but maybe someone know where to dig further?)
14:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #22: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_D12/22/
14:55 oleonard ashimema: If you were able to take a look at Bug 29212 I'd be grateful... maybe you can see what I'm missing
14:55 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use Flatpickr on OPAC pages
14:56 ashimema hehe.. I just opened a tab with that bug
14:56 ashimema was reading the comments
14:59 ashimema hmm
14:59 ashimema nothing obvious
15:00 oleonard I tried switching from repeated modal markup (in each row of the holds table) to a single reusable modal outside the table and jQueryUI tabs and it didn't change a thing.
15:01 ashimema oooh
15:01 ashimema I had to do something funky for modal flatpickrs
15:01 ashimema very recently
15:02 ashimema or was that select2 thinking about it
15:02 ashimema there was something funky around which 'container' it attaches itself to
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15:04 oleonard cait: On the other hand, I don't think I'm seeing what you're seeing with Bug 29036
15:04 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29036 minor, P5 - low, ---, bolshawh, Failed QA , Accessibility: OPAC buttons don't have sufficient contrast
15:04 cait hm weird, i switched back and forth twice to make sure
15:05 cait i saw some breadcrumb related things in an unrelated patch earlier after yarn build...
15:05 cait i can rerun it
15:05 cait but give me a moment
15:06 nugged ... how to force backgroundJob to be processed if they left behind, in quee, on server?
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15:08 cait khall: around?
15:08 khall what's up cait ?
15:09 cait oh yay
15:09 cait i am stuck on testing bug 28474
15:09 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Pass params to before_send_messages plugin hooks
15:09 cait you say: the plugin output shows... but i have no idea where that is
15:09 cait when i "run report" on the kitchen sink installed, it explodes
15:09 cait The method Koha::Patron::Categories->search_limited is not covered by tests!
15:13 cait khall: ^
15:13 khall cait I'll take a look and clarify
15:16 cait oleonard: want to hold my hand for rerunning bug 29036? :)
15:16 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29036 minor, P5 - low, ---, bolshawh, Failed QA , Accessibility: OPAC buttons don't have sufficient contrast
15:16 oleonard I don't think there's any trick to it, but if you could try again that'd be great
15:16 oleonard And share a screenshot if you still see the problem
15:17 cait it#s still there i am afraid
15:17 cait screenshot coming
15:21 cait oleonard: put it on the bug
15:26 * cait sings about 32 bugs in the queue...
15:27 cait Heading into the kitchen for a bit - bbl
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15:54 ashimema did I imagine a bug where we fixed multiple to addresses in Koha::Email ?
15:55 ashimema i.e allowing passing a list
15:58 cait there is a bug
15:58 cait not sure if it was fixed
16:01 cait it could have been a comment on one of the email bugs
16:13 ashimema mm
16:13 oleonard I don't have a good track record today... Can't figure out 29212, can't reproduce 29036
16:18 khall cait you should see something when you run from the command line!
16:18 khall for bug 28474
16:18 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Pass params to before_send_messages plugin hooks
16:21 cait khall: but where do i see it?
16:22 cait in the gui?
16:22 cait on cli?
16:22 cait which page?
16:22 wahanui well, which page is this?
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17:22 cait ashimema++
17:22 ashimema ?
17:29 cait just taking some bugs out of the queue :)
17:29 cait cheering you on
17:29 cait I'll try to have another look once i got this cake into the oven
17:29 ashimema I'm on a roll now.. found a bunch of easy ones
17:31 cait yep, we can well get under 30 today i think
17:31 cait if we are fast before davidnind shows up :)
17:32 ashimema haha
17:47 ashimema I'm done for the day..
17:51 cait oooh but understandable :)
17:51 cait thx for QA!
18:46 ashimema Set you a decent challenge.. I doubled your numbers :)
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19:45 cait just because I failed so much today ... :(
20:25 Nemo_bis ambiguous English verbs
21:14 cait Nemo_bis: hm?
21:55 tuxayo @later tell cait «usually the problem is all the new and changed strings» that's a problem for the top 6 lang that are at 100% then there are the 20+ actives languages that haven't caught up.
21:55 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
21:56 cait tuxayo: true
21:56 * cait waves
21:56 tuxayo o/
21:57 cait bgkriegel has scripts to do the copying I believe, but it's not an automated process
22:32 cait bye #koha
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22:49 pabloab Hi!
22:50 pabloab I just one to point an important but easy to fix problem on koha site: On Home › Support › Koha Mailing Lists, the link to Spanish language list incorrectly link to Yahoo instead of https://lists.koha-community.o[…]/listinfo/koha-es
22:51 pabloab BTW, there is any consensus or schedule about moving to Discourse...?
23:03 tuxayo Hola pabloab
23:05 tuxayo I'll see if I can change the page
23:07 tuxayo thanks for the report, it's fixed :)
23:10 pabloab WOW! That was fast! Thanks tuxayo! :-D
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23:17 tuxayo pabloab: about Discourse it seems that the idea is well received.
23:17 tuxayo I needs someone with time to continue digging for the details. Like where to (self?)host.
23:19 pabloab BibLibre don't want to host it?
23:21 pabloab I probably could find a provider but probably only for Spanish, but probably the idea is to shift all communities to something like right?
23:33 tuxayo > BibLibre don't want to host it?
23:33 tuxayo it wasn't discussed specifically, it's didn't go to that point.
23:33 tuxayo > but probably the idea is to shift all communities to something like right?
23:33 tuxayo totally
23:40 pabloab I hope it reach it, as I said on the mailing list, that would be a major boost! Mailman is like living in the '90s
23:53 tuxayo pabloab: I hope too
23:53 tuxayo > Mailman is like living in the '90s
23:54 tuxayo Even more true considering that we have the version 2 that stores the password in plaintext and emails it back by default every month ( which I take as a provocation ! )
23:57 pabloab ufff, md5 with salt would be better than that. What do you think about filing a bug on bugzilla? Maybe should be a security one...
23:58 tuxayo It's known, it might be the reason why the topic of upgrading or switching to another too came up

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