IRC log for #koha, 2021-10-25

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06:44 marcelr hi #koha
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07:12 marcelr hi cait
07:19 cait hi marcelr
07:23 marcelr cait its a bit confusing to see searches for hi=value and rcn=value when looking at analytical recs
07:24 cait hm why confusingß
07:24 cait isn't hi the fallback for when no rcn is used?
07:24 marcelr are they always recorded both
07:24 cait or actually... it's not
07:24 cait what do you mean?
07:25 marcelr in the count we use hi=
07:25 marcelr but in display we are checking rcn
07:25 cait host item 773 a and t i think
07:25 marcelr or host item indeed
07:25 cait i guess yes, the first schould also use rcn then
07:25 cait I guess it shoudl depend on UseControlNumber
07:25 cait as the XLST does?
07:25 marcelr it seems a bit inconsistent
07:26 cait i ahven't had a deeper look at the patches, only answering questions on analytics mostly, so hard to tell for me
07:26 marcelr you are using analytics?
07:26 cait yes
07:26 cait we have tons
07:27 cait we have a lot of special libraries
07:27 cait analytics can make up 50% of the records
07:27 marcelr is the relation via itemnumber or biblionumber
07:27 cait neither
07:27 cait that's only when you use EasyAnalytics
07:27 cait we are using $w
07:27 marcelr ok you re not using easy
07:27 cait we can't
07:27 cait our records are from the union catalog and linke there
07:28 marcelr ah
07:28 cait as we can't still not write protect... Easyanalytics has never been an option
07:28 cait and even if we coudl - we cannot write protect 773
07:28 cait so it probably won't ever be an option afaikt
07:28 marcelr ok
07:29 cait do you want me to see about an example in our catalogs?
07:31 marcelr no i have an idea about it thx
07:31 marcelr the easy analytics is the problem
07:31 cait hmm
07:31 cait the wiki documents them as exclusive
07:32 cait using UseControlNumber with EasyAnalytics isn't recommended/doesn't work
07:32 marcelr i wonder how many are using it
07:33 cait hea?
07:33 wahanui it has been said that hea is in there
07:33 marcelr 1200 libraries
07:34 marcelr so not unsubstantial
07:36 magnuse wahanui: forget hea
07:36 wahanui magnuse: I forgot hea
07:37 magnuse hea is
07:37 magnuse hea?
07:37 wahanui well, hea is
07:42 cait hm but not a few eitehr
07:42 cait I think the use case is probably special libraries without a union catalog in the background
07:42 cait local cataloguing
07:53 marcelr yeah i did a double negation: not un...
07:53 cait ah right, sorrry, doing too many things at once here
08:23 Joubu cait: you really should switch to ktd
08:23 Joubu and hi #koha
08:25 cait Joubu: time...
08:26 Joubu I don't think so, you are spending time to fix kohadevbox issues that are fixed in ktd
08:27 cait Joubu: yeah, but throwing out everythng is easier said than doe
08:27 cait and often the instructions that are super clear to you guys cause a lot of question marks with me
08:28 cait i'd rather not switch in feature freeze phase
08:29 cait sentences like this alays make me suspicious: The docker-compose.yml file is self explanatory.
08:32 Joubu you don't need to edit
08:32 Joubu it
08:32 Joubu anyway, I replied on the bug about your problem
08:33 Joubu it should fix the missing yamlxs module
08:39 mtj hi cait, Joubu... curious.. what is the yaml-xs problem?
08:44 Joubu mtj: none, kohadevbox is not maintained
08:44 Joubu th
08:44 Joubu the debian scripts don't have the PERL5LIB set correctly
08:44 Joubu /lib is missing
08:58 cait mtj: what Joubu said I guess, I was just not sure if ti should work or not
08:58 ashimema I'm off today..
08:58 cait and if we no longer maintain kohadevbox... should we not deprecate it at least?
08:58 ashimema But can't help but see a bunch more action on analytics
08:58 cait as it stands right now you don't get a fully working Koha with that bug
08:59 ashimema Easy analytics Vs UseControlNumber is a constant annoyance to me
08:59 ashimema The cataloguing helper side of those two are indeed mutaally exclusive.. one disables the other.
09:01 ashimema I'm worried about lots more followups coming through.. and some of the discussion I see here sounds wrong
09:04 ashimema Joubu did some EasyAnalytics patches recently marcelr.. your conflating three things as far as I can tell
09:05 ashimema Yes.. there are three options.. not just two
09:06 ashimema UseControlNumber, EasyAnalytics and Manual cataloguing.. this patch deals with the first and third option and deliberately ignores EasyAnalytics... The Easy workflow needs a complete overhaul in itself
09:11 marcelr ashimema: i am on it still
09:11 marcelr you got me working on it even  on sunday ;)
09:11 marcelr what did i start..
09:12 marcelr but you are right about easyanalytics and controlno
09:12 marcelr but we should address that somewehre else
09:13 mtj hi cait, i guess we should gently encourage people to use ktd, not kohadevbox
09:14 mtj ..the great thing about ktd is that its always being tested to be working
09:17 cait mtj: yeah... but we only do so here
09:17 cait not in docs
09:17 cait writing
09:17 cait people spend a lot of time setting up kohadevbox because they refer to instructions etc.
09:19 mtj ah yes... many docs still suggest to use kdb for 1st-time developers
09:19 cait yes
09:19 cait we are actually not good writing docs ina lot of places or updating them
09:19 cait that's why I didn't want to switch with someone sitting next to me actually :(
09:20 Joubu you don't have to switch
09:21 Joubu you can just give it a try
09:21 Joubu and keep using kohadevbox if you are not convinced by ktd
09:27 ashimema Will read back later.. driving now
09:27 ashimema Thanks for digging in marcelr
09:27 ashimema Bbiab
09:44 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: Split installation and onboarding <[…]41991f58419bdf40b>
09:44 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: DB must exist but empty <[…]9f4bd4d7e86cac556>
09:44 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: Fix language selection <[…]d805f0c86d9fad217>
09:44 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: Fix tests <[…]8b06fcea6878c9fe2>
09:44 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19821: Require database_test != database <[…]ba3cbb55d934eb78c>
09:44 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: Add selenium tests for installation and onboarding process <[…]475954853cf9b0d2d>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: Use submit button if only one exists on the page <[…]fd2ca8822f35d246a>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19821: Do not modify KOHA_CONF, use new database_test entry instead <[…]b324bf120aae49338>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: Ease elements selection <[…]1b73d8292fc92a23c>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19821: Use database_test entry if exists <[…]cc79f502a8bae41fc>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19821: Ignore .proverc and .proverc.dist in Makefile.t <[…]85ae274614368f67b>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19821: Install sample data, ES mappings and Version syspref <[…]2c65a5b12102f841d>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19821: Close filehandle after writing <[…]6c978f0c44f722fa2>
09:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19821: Run tests on a separate database <[…]30f78d7914b842e9b>
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10:10 oleonard Hi all
10:10 marcelr hi oleonard
10:10 wahanui hi oleopard
10:13 Joubu marcelr: 11175 - your last follow-up must remove the tests I wrote on Friday
10:14 marcelr i removed the patch
10:14 marcelr sorry for that
10:14 Joubu ok
10:14 marcelr i also removed my patches that adjusted the tests
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11:28 tcohen hi alll
11:29 tcohen hola #koha
11:29 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19185: Add missing +x on new test files <[…]0a4ed662f6c521ad5>
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11:31 marcelr hi tcohen
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12:09 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:09 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:31 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:31 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:33 marcelr anyone for testing bug 29146 ?
12:33 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29146 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Should framework default values be applied to existing records?
12:34 marcelr 5 mins ?
12:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:36 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:40 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:48 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:50 wahanui Congratulations!
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13:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:25 wahanui Congratulations!
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13:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:37 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:00 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29126: Compiled CSS <[…]8e3a4da14e3f53d1b>
14:00 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28101: Compiled CSS <[…]84df880d698bbb679>
14:00 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28101: (follow-up) Correct breadcrumb divider image <[…]7f848d5dc582fb01f>
14:00 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28847: Remove diag statements <[…]47567f670d4bfd6a0>
14:00 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29315: Remove warnings from Search.t <[…]a6bb8aadac360c488>
14:00 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29309: (follow-up) Change 'Pay fines' to 'Pay charges' <[…]33f7d7fcb0774e1b6>
14:00 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29309: Make 'Pay all fines' be 'Pay all charges' <[…]e43f719f01bb2d312>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29306: Fix warning on undefined $_ in Holds.t <[…]07575ae25755858a5>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29126: (follow-up) Correct color of btn-link class in striped tables <[…]440e97089379c2cc5>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29284: (follow-up) Fix code that I copied from too <[…]07ac535f949b3902b>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29227: Patron messaging preferences digest show as editable but are not <[…]6e381922452d09899>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29207: Getopt::Long should not ignore cases <[…]7278064b6283bac0a>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29186: (QA follow-up) Correct the check for showing limit menu <[…]1d60461fc4d87df4b>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29126: Accessibility: More corrections to contrast in the OPAC <[…]6c26576b2a730f361>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28101: Update breadcrumb markup in the OPAC for consistency and accessibility <[…]8fa2b50dc77593c92>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20463: (follow-up) Remove option from search templates <[…]9b4f534f2bb5e5586>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20463: (follow-up) Configure short name mrl for Multipart-resource-level index <[…]14eeb85ac0085b2c2>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20463: Adding index for Leader 19 Multipart resource record level <[…]f962c00a9a320ed4d>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28101: changed styling for breadcrumbs <[…]183d326e9bd5fa9c5>
14:01 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29186: Move reports result limit menu into toolbar <[…]f52feb87ab222bfaf>
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14:23 cait tcohen: around?
14:23 cait can you remind me of your bug changing the invoices table?
14:23 cait talking to someone who has always an empty table and thought there were some hints there
14:24 cait ah found it
14:24 cait but ideas welcome
14:25 tcohen cait: use the inspector to find the problem?
14:25 tcohen it is probably bad datsa
14:25 tcohen data
14:25 cait "invalid schema"
14:25 cait not one of our installations
14:27 cait we are looking at logs
14:30 cait ajax error in datatables in the browser
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14:31 cait nothing in the logs, but updateing to latest koha version and rechecking... and looks like a datatables issue
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14:35 cait DataTables warning: table id=pending_orders - Ajax error. For more information about this error, please see
14:36 tcohen there must be a request on hte browser to the API
14:36 cait yep
14:36 cait jsut got there
14:36 cait the reply is "Bye!"
14:36 tcohen unlikely
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14:37 cait /api/v1/acquisitions/orders?only_ac​tive=1&_page=1&_per_page=20&_match=​contains& < is that looking complete?
14:37 cait tcohen: i can see it, it says "Bye!"
14:38 tcohen the request response says 'Bye'?
14:38 cait yep
14:38 cait with !
14:38 cait title page not found 404
14:39 cait
14:39 cait i pasted you the exact repsonce, it displays rendered as bye with blue background
14:40 tcohen it seems the API is not loading
14:40 cait 21.05.04
14:40 cait package,s just updated from koha-commons
14:40 tcohen restarted plack
14:40 tcohen and the logs say the schema is wrong
14:41 cait we are restarting
14:41 cait error remains
14:41 tcohen I've just checked out that version
14:41 tcohen and doing a reset_all
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14:43 tcohen cait: I need more info
14:43 cait tell me
14:44 tcohen specifically anything related to that 'bad schema' error
14:44 cait you need to make an order, order something, close
14:44 cait receive chipment
14:44 cait table shoudl not be empty
14:44 tcohen I've checked out the v21.05.04 tag, reset_all
14:44 cait i am getting log entries as we speak
14:44 tcohen and I don't get a 404
14:44 cait we are looking at api-error-log, correct?
14:45 cait thx for helping
14:45 cait tcohen++
14:45 tcohen no
14:45 tcohen plack-error.log
14:45 tcohen the API hasn't loaded at all it seems :-D
14:45 cait i think ther was nothing before
14:46 tcohen can I get SSH access?
14:46 tcohen heh
14:46 cait give me a sec
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14:48 cait tomas, sent you an email
14:49 cait tcohen oops
14:49 tcohen heh
14:50 tcohen wrong library versions?
14:50 tcohen what OS version
14:50 cait Debian
14:50 tcohen pmvers JSON::Validator
14:51 tcohen I bet it is Debian 9
14:51 tcohen and there's an issue with the dependencies version
14:52 cait pmvers - command not found?
14:52 tcohen sudo apt install pmtools
14:53 cait about page says 0.97
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14:53 cait same with pmvers
14:53 tcohen root@kohadevbox:kohadevbox$ pmvers JSON::Validator
14:53 tcohen 3.14
14:54 tcohen mtj: around?
14:54 tcohen what was the trick?
14:55 tcohen cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
14:56 cait koha stable main
14:57 cait stretch 9.13 (just verified linux version)
14:57 tcohen can you add
14:57 tcohen koha stable main stretch ?
14:57 cait we are editing
14:58 tcohen (I suggest stable => 21.05, but that's personal preference to avoid )
14:58 cait hm?
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14:58 tcohen koha 21.05 main stretch
14:59 tcohen you don't want them to inadvertedly upgrade to 21.11 in a month
15:00 cait to update you need sudo apt-get update?
15:00 cait it's doing something apparently
15:00 cait packages not found
15:01 tcohen restore the 'stable'
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15:02 cait on it
15:02 tcohen amd64 arch, right?
15:04 cait validator has been kept back
15:04 tcohen dist-upgrade
15:04 cait 9 too old?
15:04 tcohen yes, but it is theoretically solved by mtj
15:05 cait trying to install the package
15:05 cait updating it
15:05 tcohen crossed fingers here
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15:05 cait dist-upgrade = newer debianversion right?
15:05 tcohen no
15:06 tcohen dist-upgrade overrides packages version change blocks
15:06 cait openapi-perl is also held back
15:06 tcohen apt upgrade usually doesn't perform version upgrades
15:07 cait waht#s the exact commandß
15:07 cait sudo apt get dist-upgrade
15:07 tcohen sudo apt dist-upgrade
15:07 tcohen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
15:07 cait it does things
15:07 tcohen either
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15:08 cait do we need to restart something?
15:08 cait about is still stuck on 0.97
15:08 tcohen sure
15:08 tcohen all the things
15:08 tcohen systemctl restart memcached koha-common apache2
15:08 cait tcohen++
15:09 cait table is now filled :)
15:09 cait you did it
15:10 tcohen yay
15:10 tcohen the problem was broader
15:10 tcohen as listing cities, libraries, etc is all driven by the API
15:15 cait forwarded that, thx for helping out
15:15 cait now that we made the connection to the library the fix is logical
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15:38 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:38 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:44 cait kidclamp: please follow up on the edit search bug - so close
15:57 reiveune bye
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17:14 kidclamp cait: submitted
18:52 kidclamp @later tell oleonard could you test 29318? this one will be a problem
18:52 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
18:55 oleonard Aye aye kidclamp
18:57 oleonard (he can't hear me)
18:58 oleonard AYE AYE KIDCLAMP!!!
18:58 kidclamp oleonard++
19:01 oleonard kidclamp: Although I can't reproduce the logging-out part
19:01 oleonard Oh wait...
19:02 * oleonard just forgot which branch he was on
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20:32 cait kidclamp: TT filters! *shakes fist'
20:32 * cait now feels bad and sends cookies
20:34 * kidclamp eats cookies and apologizes with crumbs spilling out of his mouth
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20:48 cait kidclamp: i am just fixing the bug
20:48 cait this time spotted it
20:49 cait hm forgot my sign-off lines :(
20:56 cait night night
21:11 Nemo_bis 17.57 < c4l-bridge> <akorphan> It's the most wonderful time of the year: Code4Lib 2022 presentation CFP is open!
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