IRC log for #koha, 2021-10-18

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02:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #350: FAILURE in 2 min 22 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U18/350/
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03:31 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
03:31 wahanui Congratulations!
03:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #351: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U18/351/
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06:35 reiveune hello
06:43 magnuse https://git.koha-community.org/ down?
06:48 Joubu not down but a bit slow indeed
06:48 Joubu will have a look
06:53 Joubu please don't try git fetch or web, it's getting slower and slower:)
06:55 Joubu restarting gitea
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07:08 Joubu back to normal
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07:46 magnuse Joubu++
08:17 ashimema mornin' koha
08:29 magnuse kia ora ashimema
08:30 ashimema wonder if there's a leak somewhere in the gittea code.. I found it was slowing down allot on Friday.. clearly it got worse over the weekend needing the restart this morning
08:32 Joubu RAM and swap were full, gitea had been OOM killed 3 times in the last hour...
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09:14 ashimema thanks for the patch on bug 29261 Joubu 🙂
09:14 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29261 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Translation script breaks members/tables/members_results.tt
09:14 ashimema I obviously mis-understood one of your comments
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28153: DBRev 21.06.00.035 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]38538b009c8b1b88a>
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28831: DBRev 21.06.00.034 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ff480bf8e47f67511>
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28445: (follow-up) Display count of modified items when too many to display <https://git.koha-community.org[…]eb87ab96a50dae23c>
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28153: (follow-up) Add installer files and update atomicupdate <https://git.koha-community.org[…]a43ce23d812d46380>
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28211: (QA follow-up) Add unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ca8088cb9847de7e6>
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29243: Correct call when adding items from staged records <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c28c18f1ef358a6c4>
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28445: Split and join on ' | ' instead of '|' for repeatable <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ad9eb729c9eb1df9a>
09:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28211: (QA follow-up) POD changes <https://git.koha-community.org[…]4a86eff39d110f7e1>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28211: (QA follow-up) Remove test_call_recursive <https://git.koha-community.org[…]08abd8b1c635e7057>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27949: (QA follow-up) Remove TODO <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2a1ae57a26a9de138>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28831: Database revision, add new preference <https://git.koha-community.org[…]37224492ac539d44f>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28831: Add the new group by substatus-block <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5733ac511a90b039f>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28831: Add choose/when, and change indentation <https://git.koha-community.org[…]860572c474ed2d44f>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28785: Don't send SessionRestrictionByIP to template <https://git.koha-community.org[…]fabcd6c0dafec510c>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28785: Add skip_version_check for checkauth <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d98572015cc7c5a32>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28785: Adjust check_cookie_auth calls <https://git.koha-community.org[…]27de343a9c86d9564>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28785: Centralize cookie auth check in check_cookie_auth <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5aa57a00a8981fbae>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27949: Allow multiple article requests print slip <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b75d17a065706f545>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28211: Replace use of call_recursive() with call() <https://git.koha-community.org[…]17dd3d3c4f7e978d8>
09:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28153: Add 'Hold reminder' messaging preference <https://git.koha-community.org[…]50e8223dad807138f>
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11:20 oleonard Hi #koha
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14:22 ashimema cait around?
14:22 wahanui hmmm... cait around is cait cait1 cait2 cait3 cait4 cait5
14:23 cait1 no?
14:23 cait1 *hides*
14:23 ashimema I'm getting myself confused
14:24 ashimema between 773 and 785 linking it seems
14:24 cait1 @marc 773
14:24 huginn` cait1: Information concerning the host item for the constituent unit described in the record (vertical relationship). In the case of host items that are serial or multi-volume in nature, information in subfields $g and $q is necessary to point to the exact location of the component part within the bibliographic item. (Repeatable) [b,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,3,6,7,8]
14:24 cait1 @marc 785
14:24 huginn` cait1: Information concerning the immediate successor to the target item (chronological relationship). When a note is generated from this field, the introductory phrase may be generated based on the value in the second indicator position for display. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8]
14:24 cait1 @marc 780
14:24 huginn` cait1: Information concerning the immediate predecessor of the target item (chronological relationship). When a note is generated from this field, the introductory term or phrase may be generated based on the value in the second indicator position for display. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8]
14:24 cait1 they all really work in the same way
14:24 cait1 780 and 785 are a couple
14:25 cait1 a lot of them can be paired up
14:25 cait1 not all
14:25 ashimema if UseControlNumber is disabled.. one uses Host-item search (on title only) whilst the other uses ti,phr
14:25 cait1 so waht's the question?
14:25 ashimema and then you split them with author stuff in bug 20277
14:25 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20277 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Link to host item doesn't work in analytical records if 773$a is present
14:25 cait1 hm did you check what host item indexes?
14:25 cait1 i thought it was 773$t
14:26 cait1 actually i hitnk i might be to blame in part for the confusion
14:26 cait1 $a is main heading in the documentation
14:26 cait1 and our first marc21 export put the title there when there was no author
14:26 ashimema wow..
14:26 cait1 instead of $t that was then empty
14:27 cait1 because it was a misunderstanding of the documentation I guess
14:27 ashimema now I'm wondering if the fallback search in bug 11175 was always wrong.
14:27 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Signed Off , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views
14:27 cait1 I cannot tell about that right now
14:27 cait1 but nowadays we assume that $t is the title
14:27 ashimema ok
14:27 cait1 and $a might or might not be filled with an author
14:28 cait1 so the at searches we have in some spots actually are not correct
14:28 ashimema 'show_analytics_link' does a different search to the 773 one
14:28 cait1 they do soemtimes work as title contains 245$c that might have the author in the same spelling... but it also might have not
14:28 ashimema so I think you're fix doesn't change enough lines.. shouldn't those searches match?
14:28 cait1 we never ran into these cases because we use $w
14:28 ashimema us too 😉
14:28 cait1 i thinik oleonard-away also worked on a fix for one a while ago
14:29 cait1 maybe we coud compromise on verifying the fix is ok and then change the others on a different bug?
14:29 cait1 i think oleonard-away was working on one of those too a while ago, but not sure now if it's the same bug or not
14:38 ashimema I'm working through 11175
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14:45 ashimema hmm
14:46 ashimema right..
14:46 ashimema so the 773 is a specific reverse link
14:47 ashimema the 'Show analytics' is the reverse right..
14:47 ashimema my brain hurts
14:53 ashimema I 'think' Host-item contains title and author.. but distinctly.
14:53 ashimema 995   <!--record.abs line 229: melm 773$a      Host-item-->... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]wgvPWAdinxygIfIL)
14:53 ashimema 1003   <!--record.abs line 231: melm 773$t      Host-item-->
14:53 ashimema 1004   <index_subfields tag="773" subfields="t">                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             1005     <target_index>Host-item:w</target_index>
14:53 ashimema 1006   </index_subfields>
14:54 ashimema or am I reading that wrong?
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15:27 reiveune bye
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15:31 domm Quick question (hopefully): Can we use both LDAP and "internal"/Koha for auth? For example, patrons should use KOha-auth, but librarians LDAP?
15:32 domm ah, classic: after posting the question I find a link indicating that this is possible:
15:33 domm https://bywatersolutions.com/n[…]-work-in-koha-3-4
15:33 domm (though that's a rather old link..)
15:37 oleonard cait1: That doesn't sound familiar...
15:46 cait1 sorry, ashimema, phone calls and such, got distracted
15:46 cait1 domm: but ye
15:46 cait1 s
15:46 ashimema no worries cait1
15:46 cait1 domm: if the user doesn't match on LDAP, it will use Koha's login
15:46 cait1 it's the same login form and in that a little unlike the other auth methods
15:47 ashimema I've changed 11175 to use ->subfield('245', "a") instead of ->title
15:47 ashimema so it now matches the XSLT
15:47 ashimema so i think we're good now cait1
15:48 * ashimema mistook ->title to mean 'a' only when it actually means 'all subfields'
15:48 domm ok, I' also seen that in the code, now.. I was a bit unsure because modern SSO-Logins usually allow the user to choose the auth provider...
15:48 ashimema ->title_proper doesn't even cover it.. as that concats a few but not all subfields and not just 'a'
15:48 domm cait1: thanks, anyway
15:52 ashimema cait1: could you ask your chaps to test bug 28729 for me?
15:52 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28729 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Return-path header not set in emails
15:52 ashimema took some digging
16:09 cait1 ashimema: title-cover
16:09 cait1 is just a
16:09 ashimema cover?
16:09 cait1 ashimema: we actually have a patch in production for that (or almost production) - I will compare and check with you
16:10 cait1 a standard index in koha that is only 245a
16:10 ashimema oh.. cool
16:10 cait1 on my todo list to post it :(
16:10 cait1 we will check
16:10 cait1 just added to my todo
16:10 ashimema ah, interesting
16:10 cait1 see you all tomorrow!
16:11 ashimema host-item is 245at
16:11 ashimema have a good evening miss
16:11 cait1 also interesting actually
16:11 cait1 you too!
16:11 cait1 although... t?
16:11 cait1 your it's not 773?
16:11 ashimema oo
16:11 ashimema my bad.. misread
16:11 ashimema 773at
16:11 cait1 ok, that let's me rest now :)
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16:19 IGS I'm a librarian.  I don't speak SQL.  Can someone help me with a report?
16:20 oleonard You don't have to ask to ask IGS. Ask away, and if anyone can help they will.
16:22 IGS We're not a circulating library, but I still need statistics about what things people are using.  I was told to make a report using the following line of SQL.
16:22 IGS select * statistics where type='localuse'
16:22 IGS It says I have a syntax error.
16:26 oleonard select * FROM statistics where type='localuse'
16:26 ashimema oleonard++
16:29 IGS That did something.  It showed me a list that looks kind of like this.
16:29 IGS datetimebranchvaluetypeotheritemnumberitemtypelocationborrowernumberccode 2021-10-11 10:45:15MAIN0.0000localuse5362
16:30 IGS How can I get it to show me the title of the item?
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16:51 IGS Is it possible to modify the SQL line " select * FROM statistics where type='localuse' " so that the report shows me the title of the item and maybe the call number?
17:09 tcohen hola
17:09 wahanui hi, tcohen
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