IRC log for #koha, 2021-09-28

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06:17 reiveune hello
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06:35 cait1 good morning #koha
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06:51 alex_a Bonjour
06:51 wahanui hola, alex_a
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07:07 magnuse \o/
07:26 ashimema mornin'
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08:18 fridolin hi there
08:18 wahanui privet, fridolin
08:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U_Stable build #38: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]0.11_U_Stable/38/
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08:39 cait1 .. apologizes for derailing bugs
08:39 cait1 it*s one of those days
08:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #421: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/421/
08:40 Joubu Can't connect to (certificate verify failed)
08:40 Joubu great..
08:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #247: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U20/247/
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08:47 ashimema on a derailing mission are we cait
08:47 ashimema cait1 even
08:47 * ashimema checks his email
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09:18 magnuse if i use the new(ish) feature of configuring an SMTP server to send email, i should not have to set up postfix or similar on the server, right?
09:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #198: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_D10/198/
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09:29 Joubu @later tell oleonard about 8992 - are you using idref? I am expecting it to work only for UNIMARC users, and the code exists in UNIMARCslimUtils.xsl. It has been removed from the non-XSLT view, but should still work with the UNIMARC XSLT
09:29 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:30 Joubu cait1: I've updated the git server's info on the wiki
09:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #141: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_D9/141/
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10:06 Joubu restarting git server
10:07 Joubu done
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10:15 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
10:15 wahanui Congratulations!
10:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #162: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_D11/162/
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10:29 oleonard Joubu: I'm not using idref, but I thought it was still only in the non-xslt view.
10:29 oleonard So I'm glad to hear I'm wrong.
10:30 oleonard Joubu: Does it still use Greybox for the modal?
10:33 Joubu oleonard: yes:
10:33 Joubu 397                   <xsl:attribute name="rel">gb_page_center[600,500]</xsl:attribute>
10:33 Joubu from koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap​/en/xslt/UNIMARCslimUtils.xsl
10:36 oleonard Boo
10:59 Joubu oleonard: What about bug 24223? Do we go with the follow-up patch or do you think there is still something missing?
10:59 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24223 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert OpacNav system preference to news block
10:59 Joubu it's not that bug number
11:00 Joubu bug 29041
11:00 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29041 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Improve specificity of breadcrumbs in Additional Contents
11:02 oleonard As far as I know that bug isn't missing anything. Am I missing what it's missing?
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11:04 Joubu oleonard: we chatted by email and you were confused by the duplicate
11:04 Joubu ha
11:04 Joubu still not the correct bug number
11:04 Joubu bug 24387
11:04 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Rename News tool
11:04 Joubu too many tabs opened
11:07 oleonard I
11:08 oleonard I'm torn about that one...
11:08 oleonard It's not great, but I'm not sure how to make it better
11:09 oleonard Part of the problem is that we really need to include branch selection in the same single editor used for multiple languages
11:10 oleonard (that's not related to making the upgrade smoother, but I think it's a conceptual barrier to understanding the problem)
11:11 Joubu oleonard: do you think we should focus on that before we release 21.11?
11:12 Joubu I think we should, otherwise people may need to focus twice on the same problem (duplicate)
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11:13 marcelr hi #koha
11:14 tcohen hola #koha
11:14 oleonard Joubu: I will do more tests with news entries for multiple libraries. So far I've only focused on multiple languages
11:18 oleonard Joubu: I've also noticed that sometimes the TinyMCE editor doesn't load properly for each language tab on the first try. Have you see that?
11:20 Joubu It's slow when there are several languages, but I've always seen loaded
11:20 marcelr hi tcohen oleonard Joubu
11:28 oleonard Hi marcelr and tcohen
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11:39 oleonard Joubu: When working with the data from opac_news, we know the languages and we know the libraries... The only thing we don't know is which is "default," is that right?
11:40 Joubu yes, but we also don't know how the rows are grouped (if they are)
11:40 oleonard Why not?
11:40 oleonard They're grouped by branch aren't they?
11:40 Joubu that's why you ended up with duplicate
11:42 Joubu say you have 2 OpacMainUserBlock, 1 'fr-FR' and 1 'en'. After the dbrev from 24387 you will have 3 entries. Because we created a default for fr-FR.
11:42 Joubu and so the UI will display 2 OpacMainUserBlock when 'en' is used
11:42 Joubu one in French, the other in English
11:43 Joubu because we cannot guess that one is the translation from the other one
11:44 Joubu we could assume that all OpacMainUserBlock are unique, but it's can be wrong (like library displaying several contents in a given block)
11:45 Joubu I feel like I've explained that several times already but never managed to express myself correctly
11:47 oleonard If I create a new OpacMainUserBlock for all libraries, with translations for "default" and "en," only the "en" appears.
11:47 oleonard Is that correct?
11:47 tcohen we should fix the dbrev so it puts a name to the 'news' entry
11:47 tcohen I've just noticed it
11:49 Joubu oleonard: After 24387 (current master), if you have a 'default' and 'en', if the language of the UI is English, only 'en' will be displayed.
11:50 Joubu oleonard: because the DB rows are now grouped. What you see on /tools/​d_form&category=html_customizations (the add/edit form) represents 1 additional content
11:50 Joubu tcohen: how that?
11:50 tcohen the dbrev adds one copy of (say) OpacMainUserBlock per installed language => Good
11:51 tcohen if you want to edit, you need to add a name to be able to save it
11:51 Joubu there is a bug currently
11:51 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=24387#c54
11:51 huginn Bug 24387: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Rename News tool
11:51 Joubu it's not pushed yet, I was waiting for a confirmation
11:56 oleonard Joubu: I wonder if automatically selecting the wrong "default" isn't better than creating duplicates. It's a lot easier to switch the contents of the default entry than to copy the contents of each duplicate entry into a single one.
12:00 Joubu but may be hard to catch
12:00 Joubu say you have 2 contents for 'en', one for 'fr' and 2 for 'es', but they are all different (not the same meaning).
12:01 oleonard True...
12:01 Joubu wouldn't that be weird to group them? and how you group them?
12:05 oleonard In that case should we offer a tool for merging separate entries?
12:06 oleonard No, that's probably too complicated, because different entries could already have multiple languages attached
12:08 oleonard Frustrating... I'm sure this is going to be a pain point for libraries but I don't know how we can help other than to offer documentation.
12:12 oleonard Also... Someone please sign off on Bug 29042 :)
12:12 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29042 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve formatting of entry form in Additional Contents
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12:29 tcohen oleonard:
12:30 tcohen it does look worse
12:30 tcohen haha
12:30 marcelr tcohen++
12:47 oleonard tcohen: I have to get the browser width down to 775px for it to look that way. Is it the same for you?
12:48 tcohen 894
12:49 tcohen I'm using a 4k monitor (28'') with 200% scaling
12:49 tcohen firefox, linux
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13:16 oleonard cait1 around?
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13:49 cait1 oleonard-away: sorry, just leaving
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14:25 Joubu @later tell mtj I noticed you faced problems with ktd pipelines. Me too :) I've just pushed a commit to use a mirror (not
14:25 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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15:07 reiveune bye
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15:28 Joubu I've marked some bugs as pushed but we are having a problem with koha-testing-docker's images
15:28 Joubu Gitlab's runners seem to be rejected from cpan and debian, so images don't build correctly and I cannot push (need for a new dependency)
15:29 Joubu will push as soon as it's fixed
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16:21 oleonard-away kidclamp: available for a question?
16:21 kidclamp Sure, waiting on an appointment
16:22 oleonard I'm trying to test the "Related works" part of the OPAC detail XSLT but I don't know how to populate it
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16:23 oleonard I noticed you worked on Bug 13382 so I thought you might know
16:23 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=13382 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, CLOSED FIXED, RDA: 700/710/711 display in XSLT
16:25 oleonard Or maybe cait knows :)
16:26 kidclamp I have a sample record there with all the fields, does that work?
16:26 oleonard That would be excellent
16:31 cait hm?
16:33 oleonard I'm trying to resurrect Bug 27613, kidclamp is going to help me out with a good record to test with.
16:33 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Failed QA , Pipe separated online resource links are hard to customize
16:34 cait oh
16:34 cait i wanted to get back to that too :(
16:34 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=36515
16:34 cait i tihnk i kinda stopped it in its track last time?
16:35 cait happy to see it resurrected
16:39 oleonard Oh duh, it was right there on the bug. Thanks kidclamp
16:41 oleonard cait: I'm continuing to use the pseudo-class to create visual separators but I'm expanding the scope of the changes so that it's more consistent
16:42 cait sounds good - i think i put some of our use cases, but never got to try out the suggested css :(
16:43 oleonard cait: I was curious about that, and wanted to make sure I understood what you needed
18:33 davidnind oleonard: how do I sign off a remote branch? (for bug 26949)
18:33 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26949 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade TinyMCE in the staff interface from 5.0.16 to 5.5.1
18:34 oleonard If you declare it signed off I can add your signoff
18:35 davidnind thanks Owen!
18:36 davidnind the only minor issue was the about page with the version number for TinyMCE
18:51 oleonard Got it, should be fixed now.
18:54 davidnind oleonard++
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20:57 kidclamp oleonard: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29131
20:57 huginn Bug 29131: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Row striping breaks color coding on item circulation alerts
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