IRC log for #koha, 2021-03-25

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01:44 Hunaid Hello. I am looking for a library management software for my school. i cam across koha. But i understand it runs on Linux. Does it work on windows?
01:49 tuxayo Hunaid: hi :) It worked on Windows in the past, now I'm not sure, but you will have a much harder time running it on Windows than on Linux.
01:53 Hunaid Thank you. Can you recommend something for Windows
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03:28 shaffendi hi heello
03:28 shaffendi i need help on serial data..
04:24 tuxayo hi :) shaffendi write your question, and maybe someone could help
04:24 tuxayo You may ask again a few hours later or use the mailing list that suits best[…]ha-mailing-lists/
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07:20 ashimema What do you mean by 'runs on windows' Hunald.. I wouldn't suggest running it on a desktop machine.. it is designed to sit on a server..
07:21 ashimema I imagine Koha would run under linux subsystem for windows.. but I've personally not tried
07:21 ashimema Hunaid ^
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07:40 reiveune hello
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07:46 alex_a Bonjour
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08:03 magnuse \o/
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10:13 * cait1 waves
10:19 ashimema Hi cait1
10:26 cait1 just got out of morning meetings
10:26 cait1 how is everyon?
10:28 ashimema not bad, not bad
10:28 ashimema just looking through the accessibility improvement bugs
10:29 ashimema little bit scary.. think they're at the stage and having taken it all apart and now working out how to put it back together again
10:29 ashimema the first patch I just QA'd is scary
10:30 ashimema wow.. back up to 80 majors.. that seems a little high
10:37 cait1 yeah we have been better
10:41 oleonard Hi all
10:41 oleonard We seem to be having a surge of people asking to run Koha on Windows. I wonder if there was a catalyst.
10:43 cait1 oh, only saw one of them on mailng list, but miht have deleted others
10:44 ashimema it's weird
10:44 ashimema I noted at least a couple
10:49 tcohen Good morning
10:49 tcohen hi cait
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11:47 cait1 maybe jus one of these things that happen in waves?
11:47 cait1 hi tcohen!
11:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:48 wahanui Congratulations!
11:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #265: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/265/
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11:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:56 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:02 wahanui Congratulations!
12:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #309: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/309/
12:03 oleonard ashimema: I'm adding some follow-ups to my title-string patches because I've found some missed ones
12:03 ashimema I saw
12:03 oleonard I'm setting them back to signed off so you can have another look, if you don't mind
12:04 ashimema will do
12:04 ashimema there's so many cases it's really easy to miss them
12:04 ashimema thanks for taking that set on
12:08 * oleonard likes projects
12:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:10 wahanui Congratulations!
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12:13 * cait1 likes oleonard
12:15 oleonard :)
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13:14 magnuse oleonard++
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13:32 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:32 wahanui Congratulations!
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13:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:34 wahanui Congratulations!
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13:43 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:43 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:36 * magnuse tried submitting a receipe for the cookbook :-O
14:36 ashimema :)
14:36 caroline yay magnuse++
14:38 * magnuse wanders off to fry some mackerels
14:43 * ashimema races ahead in the QA leaderboard
14:47 ashimema 71 enhancements in the QA queue still though!
14:47 ashimema yowsers
14:47 ashimema and on that note.. I need to go on teh school run
14:47 ashimema see ya
14:53 * oleonard-away is hungry for fried mackerels now
15:04 cait2 hm no
15:04 cait2 Pizza
15:14 oleonard Tomorrow is pizza day. Today is fried mackerel day.
15:21 cait2 but...
15:21 caroline by that logic, it's pizza day in NZ
15:21 caroline Or is pizza day always tomorrow?
15:25 oleonard no!
15:40 eythian Thursday is pizza day in NZ IIRC
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15:44 cm hi
15:45 cm how reliable is
15:45 cm it found the correct number of occurrences of my authorities but didn't link anything
15:46 cm or do i maybe have to rebuild the zebraindex to see the links?
15:47 caroline cm I think you have to rebuild the indexes yes
15:47 caroline also, check the linker system preferences
15:47 cm where do i find these preferences?
15:50 caroline Administration > System preferences > Authorities
15:50 cm ok, i've rebuild the index but still see nothing
15:50 cm i'll relink
15:50 caroline Or Administration > System preferences and search for Linker
15:50 cm thx
15:52 cm what setting should i be looking for?
15:52 cm as far as i can see, everything is set to default
15:53 caroline just check to make sure it's to your liking
15:53 cm ok
15:53 cm so i did the linking again: still nothing :-(
15:54 caroline did you run it with -v to see what it does?
15:54 cm yes
15:54 cm first, it processed all of my records
15:55 cm Number of bibs checked:                 46386
15:55 cm Number of bibs modified:                0
15:56 cm didnt do any linking, even though it found the correct number of occurrences, like: Bericht:        447 occurrences
15:57 cm or maybe i misunderstand what the linker is supposed to do?
15:57 cm I'm talking about the "used in x records" number
15:57 cm which is still 0
15:58 caroline I use it all the time and it usually works
15:58 caroline dis you modify your MARC frameworks?
15:58 caroline maybe if $9 is not in the framework, it can't link
15:58 cm it is in the framework
15:59 cm i'
15:59 cm i'll double-check
15:59 caroline I'm out of ideas... :/
16:00 cm ok, i have 2 frameworks
16:00 cm default and another one
16:00 cm $9 is set for the other one
16:00 cm maybe the linker is using the wrong framework?
16:01 caroline depends on your bib records
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16:02 cm hm
16:02 cm what could i do to verify it is using the desired framework?
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16:07 caroline cm check one of your 447 Bericht records
16:07 caroline which framework does it use?
16:07 cm ok one sec..
16:08 cm how can i see the framework?
16:08 cm is it in the marc record?
16:09 caroline in the staff interface, if you click in the MARC view, it shoudl show just above the marc
16:09 caroline there should be a drop down menu with your frameworks... the one that is selected is the one your record uses
16:09 cm ok it is using the correct framework
16:10 caroline damn... I was hoping that would be the problem hehe!
16:10 cm so maybe a colleague altered the framework recently.. anything i have to do after that maybe?
16:10 cm as i said i rebuild the zebtra-index
16:11 caroline can you check if you edit the record and click on the tag for Bericht, is there a $9?
16:11 caroline is the subfield there and is it filled?
16:12 caroline normally the $9 has the authority record number in it
16:14 cm hm
16:14 cm so i see $9 in my framework
16:15 cm but not in the marc of the specific record
16:15 caroline even if you click on the title of the tag?
16:15 caroline (to "open" the tag)
16:18 cm ok
16:18 cm i see $9 but it is not set
16:18 cm that should happen by the linking i guess?
16:18 caroline yes
16:18 cm so the $9 is there
16:18 cm at least :)
16:19 caroline is the text in your bib record and in your auth record the same?
16:19 caroline Sometimes I've seen it won't recognize if there are spaces or different punctuation
16:19 cm you mean the keyword?
16:19 caroline yes
16:19 cm yes
16:19 cm it's exactly the same
16:19 caroline ok that's good
16:20 reiveune bye
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16:21 caroline when you reindex, do you index your authorities?
16:21 caroline hm... dumb questions
16:21 cm yes, i especially added -a to zebrA
16:21 caroline of course otherwise you wouldn't be able to find them
16:22 caroline did you also add -b?
16:22 caroline wouldn't change anything if $9 is empty
16:22 caroline sorry, thinking out loud
16:22 cm sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library
16:22 cm thats what i did
16:23 cm and then again with flag -a
16:23 cm maybe the linker is trying the link the wrong tag?
16:23 cm e.g. one record has its keyword in tag 650
16:24 cm another one in 651
16:24 cm another one in 100
16:25 caroline those are all standard...
16:26 cm looking at the subfield settings for $9 now
16:26 cm there are several options like important, mandatory and so on
16:26 caroline shouldn't change anything
16:26 cm hm
16:26 cm damn
16:26 caroline yeah...
16:28 cm so let's assume that the framework was changed
16:28 cm what might be needed to make the changes visible to the linker?
16:28 cm i already did a rebuild
16:28 cm a restart of the database maybe?
16:30 cm now im looking at the "Koha to MARC mapping" options
16:30 cm there are several mappings for subfields a or b but none for $9
16:30 cm maybe that's missing?
16:30 caroline let me check mine, but I don't think it's supposed to be linked
16:31 caroline no only 952$9 is linked in mine
16:32 cm hm
16:32 cm looking at "authority types"
16:32 cm i checked all types and again see several subfields
16:33 cm but $9 is missing
16:33 cm should it be added there as well?
16:33 caroline in my default MARC framework, for 100$9 I have Managed in tab 1, Visibility OPAC, Intranet, Collapsed
16:34 caroline and for 100$a I have Managed in tab 1, Visibility OPAC, Intranet, Edito, Koha link, thesaurus PERSO_NAME
16:34 cm checking mine
16:36 cm look similar
16:37 cm $9 is managed in tab 0 but i guess that doesnt matter
16:37 caroline is $a also managed in tab 0?
16:37 cm yes
16:37 caroline (as long as they're in the same tab, it's ok)
16:38 caroline To circle back to your authority types questions, it's normal that there is no $9 in there
16:38 cm ok
16:39 caroline $9 is used to store the auth number in the bib record, so it's only necessary in the bib record
16:42 cm hm
16:42 cm sorry for bothering you sou much caroline ..
16:43 cm i really appreciate your patience :-)
16:43 caroline sorry I can't help you more
16:43 cm hm
16:43 cm yeah i guess ill just leave it at that
16:43 cm thx!
16:43 caroline I'm out of ideas, but I can answer questions if you have other ones
16:44 cm so if i link records to authorities manually, it works
16:44 cm does that give you any hint?
16:44 caroline no...
16:45 cm :-)
16:52 cm thx again caroline!
16:52 cm bye
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17:21 circ-user-exXpE Hi everyone
17:22 circ-user-exXpE First time using the channel. I hope I dont do anything wrong
17:23 circ-user-exXpE In my library we are trying to setup the search in chinese characters but all attempts around Zebra are getting nowhere
17:23 circ-user-exXpE does anyone have a very clear idea about what we should do?
17:24 circ-user-exXpE is there any good instruction out there on how to do this?
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17:53 ashimema sorry circ-user-exCpE.. I'm just clocking off for the day.. as are allot of europe
17:53 ashimema you might have better luck trying again tomorrow a little earlier.. or weighting a couple of hours and hoping others come along that might be able to help
17:54 ashimema or use the mailing lists
17:54 ashimema We have various things working in zebra here including kanji and chinese.. so there is a way.. but I'm not sure what it is off the top of my head
17:54 ashimema ICU might be required as a starter
17:55 * ashimema runs off to save burning dinner
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18:00 oleonard Oh no ashimema's fried mackerel is burning
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