IRC log for #koha, 2021-03-01

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07:33 reiveune hello
07:33 wahanui que tal, reiveune
07:52 cait first timer bug fix on bug 27829! This is no practice! :)
07:52 magnuse \o/
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07:52 alex_a Bonjour
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08:03 Joubu Hi there
08:03 wahanui bidet, Joubu
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08:04 cait1 good morning #koha
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08:42 ashimema Mornin' #koha
08:42 ashimema 27829?
08:43 ashimema I don't see a bug with that number cait1
08:43 cait1 bug 27829
08:43 cait1 hm typoed
08:43 cait1 27820
08:43 cait1 will I ever get a bug number right on hte first try?
08:43 ashimema lol
08:44 cait1 found it?
08:44 ashimema yup
08:44 ashimema oopsie on my part.. can't imagine how I left out the use line
08:44 cait :)
08:44 ashimema will get onto it later today
08:44 ashimema just QAing bug 22690 at the minute
08:45 cait which bot are we missing? huginn?
08:45 cait gmcharlt: are you around and could you bring back our beloved huginn bot? :)
08:50 Joubu ashimema: I am a bit worried about this one. The cronaction statement is there since the first patch. Does it mean the patch never got tested correctly?
08:50 cait maybe logs were turned off?
08:50 cait not sure if that would do it i didn't touch that one myself
08:51 ashimema Well, in the end I never implemented/updated the plugins  I wrote it for to use it.. as it was ended up way more contentious than I thought.. I had a local test plugin I used to test it when i wrote it
08:52 ashimema maybe no-one tested it after.. I wouldnt' surprise me that I managed to miss our a final merged commit with the use statement so it worked locally but the patch was bad
08:52 ashimema grr
08:52 ashimema I'm still torn about this one now... I'd really like to see a team effort for getting the task queue viable and usable as a schedular
08:52 ashimema but I have no idea when or if anyone is going to commit to that
08:53 cait this enh hs been backported
08:53 Joubu for next cycle I'd say
08:53 cait and is in the standard crontab... i think push the fix fast and then care about the future :)
08:53 ashimema mm
08:54 Joubu If it hasn't been tested it must be reverted from stable
08:56 ashimema I actually thought we exported cronlogaction from Koha::Script.. but it appears not
08:57 cait Joubu: we can revert, but will it remove lines from crontabs? I just merged ours and never sure how that works for people that use standard packages
08:57 cait so it might be more disruptive than fixing?
09:02 Joubu we can fix and test more carefully, yes
09:09 Joubu mtj: ?
09:09 Joubu mtj: we need a fix for 26893 ASAP, please give me some updates about it
09:09 Joubu @later tell mtj we need a fix for 26893 ASAP, please give me some updates about it
09:15 ashimema can anyone here see a reason not to add a proper constraint between aqorders and items?
09:16 ashimema or rather.. aqorders_item and items
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09:21 cait in which way?
09:21 cait i mean how do you want to constrain it?
09:21 cait i think there are reasons to keep it
09:21 cait if you break the connection, we lose the information about orders from deleted items
09:21 cait so ... i think this could be a reason
09:22 ashimema as in... it's really odd to have a link table where links can be broken
09:22 cait we want to know why an item was deleted, it being connected to a cancelled order is valuable
09:22 cait i am pretty usre i use that connection in our inventory book reports
09:22 cait and you can unbreak it... it's only broken because of our split table design
09:23 ashimema god damn I hate our 'delete_' tables
09:23 cait that's a discussion for another day
09:23 ashimema so you actually want broken relationships
09:23 cait no
09:23 cait i want theinformation
09:23 cait and as i can not get it otherwiese, we cannot add the constraint now i think
09:24 ashimema your right
09:24 ashimema we can't add it because we use the deleted tables stuff
09:24 ashimema which is a right pain
09:24 cait don't disagree there
09:24 ashimema I think bug 22690 is a fqa then
09:25 cait i really miss that bot
09:25 ashimema me too
09:25 cait oh
09:25 cait does it constrain?
09:26 cait i would not even have thought of a database chance in there
09:27 cait to #koha - checking version numbers on our demos now to update website, if you plan an update or want it updated within the month, let me know
09:27 ashimema it doesn't..
09:27 ashimema but what it does do is add a dbic relation
09:28 ashimema problem is.. I tihnk that relation will explode in some cases where the key's are broken
09:30 cait ah I see
09:31 cait good catch
09:42 ashimema I feel mean
09:42 ashimema this patch is pretty good.. but I'm finding lots of little hard to spot edge cases.
09:49 ashimema ' i can not not plan! i am german!'
09:49 ashimema That's gotta be cait
10:01 ashimema full circle on PQA and FQA.. first of the month makes this easy.. hehe
10:10 ashimema is `Alvaro Cornejo` new?
10:14 Joubu no
10:15 ashimema okies.. thanks
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10:20 ashimema just need to find a bug to rescue now and my occupation will be complete.. mwhahaha....
10:30 ashimema occupation complete :)
10:30 ashimema
10:30 wahanui i think is up again :D
10:33 Joubu it's a fragile one, it's only "1"!
10:33 Joubu I am sure you can do better
10:33 Joubu :D
10:33 ashimema hahah
10:34 ashimema I was laying down the gauntlet.. don't want to make it too hard for people :P
10:35 Joubu bots, I pushed things!
10:35 ashimema no bots :(
10:36 Joubu ha, indeed
10:42 cait hm? where did my quote come from?
10:42 ashimema dashboard random quotes
10:42 cait ah I see :)
10:43 cait maybe someone could email gmcharlt?
10:43 cait (not me) heh
10:43 cait anti-spam email config is so annoying
10:56 fridolin Bug 27820 this feature never worked :)
10:56 fridolin wahanui:  ?
10:56 wahanui no idea, fridolin
10:56 fridolin https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27820
10:58 ashimema in production I reckon yes, it didn't work
10:59 ashimema we had a copy of it I used whilst testing.. I must have forgotten to squash in the use fix for the bugzilla entry.. and no-one noticed
10:59 cait fridolin++
11:01 ashimema it was written with the recalls plugin in mind
11:06 fridolin[…]chen-sink/pull/15 for our beloved plugin
11:06 fridolin some other hooks are missing there
11:07 ashimema ooh.. good point
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11:21 ashimema humm.. anyone here familiar with IPC and forking/threading...
11:22 ashimema I like bug 27267 but am imagining finding someone to QA it could be challenging.
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11:38 TimothyAlexis How should this system preference be written in opac.pref?
11:38 TimothyAlexis ('OpacAllowPickupLocationChange','','Pending, In-Transit, Suspended','Allow patrons to change pickup location for these statuses.).','multiple'),
11:40 oleonard Hi #koha
11:42 TimothyAlexis Also, I'm wondering if 'suspended' should be one of the options. We don't use that one at our library.
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11:43 pastebot "TimothyAlexis" at pasted "Is this correct for opac.pref?" (7 lines) at
11:44 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "TimothyAlexis: My suggestion:" (6 lines) at
11:46 TimothyAlexis That's a better description.
11:48 TimothyAlexis If anyone notices the syntax error in what I posted at [12:38], I've fixed it...
11:49 TimothyAlexis oleonard++
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12:37 tcohen morning
12:38 slef tcohen: good $TZAG
12:39 tcohen hi slef!
12:39 slef Has anyone a copy of koha-common_19.05.04*.deb cached anywhere that they can let me download, please?
12:40 slef (I think someone has been editing a koha without leaving notes...)
12:42 slef contains the tarballs not debs... or I could build it from clean git... hmm
12:43 oleonard Hi slef. Sorry, all I've got here is a Scrabble tile with the letter E (1 point), a 1984 50-cent coin, and a 64MB SanDisk SmartMedia camera memory card.
12:45 slef oleonard: what are you doing with the contents of my saddlebag?
12:46 oleonard slef: You thought you had a magical bag of holding but it turns out it just empties into my junk drawer.
12:47 slef oleonard: go north
12:47 tcohen great album
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12:54 Joubu oleonard: do you agree with the patches on 27473?
12:54 Joubu IMO we are missing the "if not" part
12:55 * oleonard will look now
12:55 Joubu otherwise it's like the 2 actions are unrelated
12:58 oleonard Joubu: to be honest I think we should remove the text about the redirect. Why have it at this stage of the process? What's it for?
13:03 oleonard I see that cait made a similar comment on the bug
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13:11 TimothyAlexis I'm looking at and to check the logic for the pick up location <select> element.
13:11 tcohen in which Koha version?
13:12 TimothyAlexis Currently I'm looking at 20.05.03
13:12 oleonard Joubu: I've attached a suggested revision.
13:13 TimothyAlexis What are these? "options_for_libraries" and "at_least_one_library_not_available_for_pickup"
13:13 Joubu thanks oleonard, I was about to attach a patch :)
13:14 Joubu oleonard: mine was removing the redirect actually
13:14 oleonard I'm fine with that too, I just didn't think it mattered that much if it was still there
13:15 TimothyAlexis If I want to add this <select> to the, is there anything I need to think about in ?
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13:21 cait slef: is there none on
13:21 cait oh oops.... scroll down first, cait
13:23 cait TimothyAlexis: I didn't realize before that you worked with Maria - can you say hi from me? I saw her comment at the meeting, but didn't get to respond :)
13:23 tcohen slef maybe we should start using gitlab's artifact repo
13:24 tcohen as an intermediate storage/cache
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13:26 cait oleonard-away: got a nice new bug report - the button for doing batch due date change is not displaying in chrome
13:26 cait i hate those :(
13:28 cait oh, fixed with 20.05 at least
13:34 Joubu cait: 27099 maybe?
13:38 cait ths one looks very suspicious at least!
13:39 cait thx
13:40 cait Joubu++
13:41 oleonard cait: I'm sending this message back in time so that we don't create a paradox
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13:48 oleonard Who started referring to it as a "MARC flavor" ? I've come to the sudden realization that that is weird.
13:48 TimothyAlexis cait: Done ;)
13:50 TimothyAlexis It was nice to see you and I think it is good for everyone to get some motivation to contribute.
13:50 TimothyAlexis Thank you for the presentation.
13:51 cait it was great to "get out" a little bit :)
13:52 cait and thx for forwarding my message!
13:52 cait TomothyAlexis++
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15:31 cait oleonard: maybe... they were thinking of making it sound nicer... this way it makes you forget about the MARC part and think about icecream?
15:32 caroline_catlady icecream++
15:33 caroline_catlady Cookie dough MARC
15:35 oleonard I suspect the usage passed from "flavors of Unix" to "flavors of Linux" to "flavors of MARC"
15:36 oleonard I guess if your sysadmin is installing Koha the term won't sound too weird.
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15:39 oleonard I was thinking it would be nice to let the user know what steps were coming up:
15:39 caroline_catlady oleonard: your hypothesis makes more sense, but I prefer cait's :P
15:40 caroline_catlady looks nice!
15:45 caroline_catlady @leter tell rangi now that the server issues are resolved, can you change the link for the "latest" manual to point to 20.11?
15:45 caroline_catlady @later tell rangi now that the server issues are resolved, can you change the link for the "latest" manual to point to 20.11?
15:46 caroline_catlady hm
15:46 caroline_catlady huginn is gone?
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16:07 slef Does everyone else get the Bowie song in their head when they see the starman process running or is it just me?
16:07 oleonard I did reading that question
16:08 tcohen of course
16:10 cait caroline_catlady: now that I have mentioned icecream and you are in agood mood
16:10 cait do you have a moment for 2 questions? :)
16:10 caroline_catlady of source
16:10 caroline_catlady course
16:11 caroline_catlady though the fact that I need to be in a good mood kinda scares me
16:11 cait I think we are finished with manual po for 20.05 now - how do I get those into the main repo and then on the website? :)
16:11 cait do you do that or should i create a pull request somehow?
16:11 * oleonard knows caroline_catlady has such a bad reputation for her temper ;)
16:11 caroline_catlady You can create a pull request... I just have to find you the link
16:11 caroline_catlady 1 sec
16:12 caroline_catlady
16:12 cait ok, I will give it a go
16:12 caroline_catlady it should automatiqucally create a merge request in the manual repo
16:12 cait the next question: have you talked to Bernardo about po files for 20.11 yet?
16:13 cait hm you don't have to give the language, that' sok?
16:13 caroline_catlady no, I keep forgetting... I'll add it to my to-do priority for today
16:13 cait thank you!
16:13 caroline_catlady yeah it's for evertyhing
16:13 cait do you know when that was last done? becuase the translations on the website seemed quite old compared with bernardo's preview
16:13 cait shuld i put your email or mine?
16:14 caroline_catlady I did it in december
16:14 caroline_catlady you can put in my email
16:14 cait hm ok, then it might explain it, i will check again once merged
16:14 caroline_catlady
16:14 caroline_catlady I think maybe ashimema did it more recently to set up the automatisation
16:15 cait it did finish
16:16 cait we now got all chapters translted but systempreferences and license...
16:16 cait and it took forever :)
16:17 caroline_catlady I know, I'm so disenhearted by our manual (in fr-CA), its so much work I don't even know where to begin
16:18 caroline_catlady ashimema around?
16:18 caroline_catlady at least if you're up to date, future translations should be quicker
16:19 caroline_catlady I got the email from the pull request, but it didn't create a merge request in the manual
16:20 cait caroline_catlady: we had a bit of help, but even then it takes long and it needs a proof reading - stuff like broken links slip in quickly
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16:24 caroline_catlady cait do you remember what was the other thing I had to ask Bernardo? About the duplication of vs*manual
16:25 caroline_catlady I think we wanted to point from directly to his manusl, was that it?
16:28 cait sorry, i think I was not around for that discussion
16:28 cait oh not sure
16:28 cait but that would resolve some issues
16:28 cait probably need ashimema for this one
16:28 cait it might be solved by bigger disc? but not sure
16:29 caroline_catlady we got the bigger disc from wizzyrea, but eventually, it's going to be a problem again, i think
16:29 ashimema hi
16:30 caroline_catlady hi!
16:31 caroline_catlady cait and I are trying to get the new de-DE translations into the manual
16:31 caroline_catlady she did the pull request from the tool, but It's not creating a merge request in the manual repo
16:32 ashimema wizzyrea doubled the disk for us
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16:32 ashimema but yes.. eventually it will be a problem again if we don't start archiving off the old manuals somehow
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16:33 ashimema they're growing in size quickly now.. with each translation duplicating all the images etc
16:34 oleonard I wonder if there has been any call for more barcode types in the patron card creator tool
16:38 ashimema looking at why merge request didn't happen
16:38 ashimema problem with this stuff is we write it and then no-one uses it for 6 months
16:38 caroline_catlady yeah... sorry :/
16:42 ashimema merge request is there now caroline
16:42 ashimema not sure what cait did..
16:42 ashimema it just worked for me
16:43 caroline_catlady Do I have to do seomthing once I get the email?
16:43 ashimema you won't get the email this time.. I put my own in to test it.
16:43 ashimema what you will see is a merge request in gitlab
16:43 ashimema just clikg the merge button
16:44 ashimema except.. it already says it can't be merged..
16:44 ashimema ffs
16:44 caroline_catlady Yeah, I don't see the merge button... It's like there is a merge request without a commit
16:46 ashimema what version did you translate cait?
16:47 caroline_catlady 20.05
16:47 caroline_catlady Translation update - Koha manual 20.05 - 20210301 (2021-03-01 13:15:06 -0300)
16:48 ashimema ok
16:48 ashimema I ran it for 20.11
16:48 ashimema I'll have another go
16:51 caroline_catlady ah, maybe it didn't work because there are no 20.11 po files right now
16:52 ashimema there will be in a minute if I can work it out
16:53 caroline_catlady I just emailed Bernardo, I put you (cait and ashimema) in cc
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17:05 cait oh sorry, got pulled into something here
17:05 cait but yes, we worked on 20.05 and are finished for now - so hence wanting to update before moving on to 20.11
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17:53 oleonard @seen chrisn
17:54 oleonard Oh dang is that huginn too?
17:54 * oleonard should have @seened chris_n anyway
17:55 oleonard gmcharlt: around?
17:56 * oleonard wonders why we offer the barcode types we do.... several others are in the code and commented out
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18:35 * oleonard forgot about Bug 26692
18:36 * oleonard shakes his fist at missing huginn
18:36 oleonard Add barcode image generator service for OPAC https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26692
18:41 oleonard khall_: Around?
18:59 rangi will do caroline_catlady
18:59 caroline_catlady thx rangi!
19:03 rangi done
19:04 caroline_catlady rangi++
19:05 reiveune bye
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19:33 oleonard I like that there is a barcode format called "daft."
19:36 caroline_catlady lol!
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19:57 * oleonard foolishly wonders how hard it would be to rebuild the patron card creator in JavaScript
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20:14 cait are you getting bored?
20:14 cait bug 100
20:14 cait still no huginn eh?
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20:33 slef when you use build-git-snapshot does it save the git changelog since the last version tag in the build anywhere?
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