IRC log for #koha, 2021-01-11

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03:25 aleisha hi all! does anyone know what version of bootstrap koha uses?
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06:51 reiveune hello
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07:27 alex_a Bonjour
07:27 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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07:42 magnuse \o/
07:42 magnuse nice, we have translated "bootstrap" on the licenses page...
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08:16 cait1 good morning #koha!
08:18 magnuse kia ora cait1
08:21 Joubu aleisha: OPAC is using bootstrap v4.5.0 in 20.11 (bug 20168)
08:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4
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09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27336: Fix xt/find-missing-filters.t <[…]b7c52a0057d6b5f8b>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27336: Add POD for new package <[…]ce2d636c5bf8763cf>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27349: DBRev <[…]46fe78b8e0e5b3404>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27349: (QA follow-up) Move DB update to perl file and add description <[…]4a4214b00f9831542>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27336: Sanitize correctly HTML id <[…]ea3fb4641d5fcd292>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27349: Fix Mana system preference wrong type <[…]1d55c254418fe581c>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24470: Mark a batch as 'imported' if all the bib has been imported <[…]03a267cac9deedc6c>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26797: Escape firstname to prevent relative's checkouts to crash <[…]9321bcac8371c8b45>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27109: Remove Replay action - not implemented <[…]4ead6716c73ad5c6d>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27109: Improve labels on the background job views <[…]0efde6b05fec147a7>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27090: Opac basket: fix the 'In transit from' and 'to' <[…]2ac2a6ceb82641297>
09:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25292: Flushing L1 on every Z3950 server search <[…]5fbee161e4f79cf92>
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09:56 ashimema humm.. is 20.11.01 not packaged yet?
09:56 ashimema mtj ?
09:56 wahanui i think mtj is indifferent :) - but i think cron.daily is the established rule
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10:33 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
10:33 wahanui Congratulations!
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11:14 oleonard Hi all
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11:34 ashimema Morning oleonard
11:34 oleonard Just looking at Bug 27289 again
11:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page
11:45 oleonard ashimema: I'm confused about your last comment on that bug. Did you mean to say a different bug number?
11:45 ashimema poop
11:45 ashimema yep
11:46 ashimema the one that depends on it
11:46 ashimema bug 27290
11:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=27290 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, BLOCKED , Cash register allows for 'amount tendered' less than amount being paid
11:47 ashimema somehow the validation routines have got a bit of a mess in that template.. like.. we called `.validate' twice in the JS block in the document onload and also had a bit of a mish mash with defining required in JS and in HTML
11:47 ashimema so with both our bugs we sort some of that out.. but I'm not sure how to achieve what Katrin is asking for..
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11:50 ashimema I 'think' we can either remove the $( "#payForm").validate call from the document onload JS block entirely.. or possibly better still move it to trigger on the confirm onclick or something.. I can't really remember how jQuery validate works
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11:54 oleonard Oh... duh... The part of the script that copies the price to the "amount being paid" field is calling the validation routine directly. Take that out and it doesn't trigger.
11:55 oleonard However...
11:55 ashimema . . .
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11:56 oleonard Having it validate as you "Add" means that the validation on the "amount tendered" field updates as you add items to the sale.
11:57 oleonard Add amount tendered to the form; add multiple items for purchase -> The validation updates the message, Please enter a value greater than or equal to XX.XX
11:57 oleonard I'm definitely leaning towards not doing anything
11:57 ashimema indeed
11:57 ashimema I think that's why I did it that way
11:57 ashimema so we just need to suggest to cait that it's a feature not a bug ;)
11:57 ashimema cool
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11:58 ashimema silly question.. do we need the validate call that's outside of the updateChangeValues() at all?
12:00 oleonard We definitely don't need two
12:00 ashimema I remove the one of them in that second bug ;)
12:01 ashimema I actually did the same stuff as you cleaning up the template too... then I spotted you'd done the same so I just made mine depend on yours instead
12:01 oleonard But I think we do need one
12:01 ashimema okies, makes sense
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12:23 dolf Question: I do not know if this is a bug, or something wrong with my setup. When deleting a patron, I get a 500 error, with this in the logs: End of script output before headers:
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12:23 oleonard What Koha version dolf?
12:24 dolf I think 20.11. Let me look it up
12:24 dolf yup.
12:27 oleonard I can't reproduce that problem in
12:27 Joubu dolf: another error before?
12:27 Joubu are you trying to delete the anonymous patron? (see pref AnonymousPareon)
12:27 Joubu AnonymousPatron*
12:28 Joubu bug 27144
12:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=27144 critical, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, RESOLVED FIXED, Cannot delete any patrons
12:30 dolf I tried to delete a normal patron. Thanks for the bug link. I'll keep an eye out for the fix.
12:31 Joubu there is a fix already, it will be part of 20.11.01
12:31 Joubu you can apply it locally (it's a missing semicolon) if needed
12:33 * ashimema is slowly creeping up the QA stats leaderboard :)
12:40 dolf thanks!
12:44 * cait1 cheers ashimema on
12:45 cait1 .01 is already released, wiating for the packages, rightß
12:45 cait1 ?
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12:53 dolf yes, I'm following the debian packages
12:54 ashimema I believe so
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13:21 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:21 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:04 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:04 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:14 cait1 hm I got the question how Koha encrypts the password
14:14 cait1 does smeone have this information on hand maybe?
14:14 cait1 i know we are using bcrypt but wonder if it needs some more detail
14:14 cait1 the question is about if they can change their app to work with th encrypted passwords in koha, doing the comparison there
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14:19 magnuse cait1:[…]/
14:19 magnuse dunno how to explain that in hooman language, though ;-)
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14:22 koha-jenkins joubu: Bug 24470: Mark a batch as 'imported' if all the bib has been imported
14:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24470 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to stable , Set import_status when file used to populate basket in acquisitions
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15:04 oleonard Is there a reason why we don't have RegEx options on batch patron modification, besides "we haven't got to it"
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16:09 cait1 oleonard: I think regex was no t trendy when it was introduced? :)
16:10 cait1 magnuse: was hoping for "hooman dev" but the link is very helpful already, thx!
16:11 oleonard When has regex NOT been trendy??
16:12 oleonard regex gets to skip the line at the hottest nightclubs
16:12 cait1 lol
16:13 cait1 oleonard: this woudl be so much less fun without you :)
16:13 cait1 if i remembered my login (which I don't) I'd quote add you constantly
16:14 oleonard My last chance at fame is thwarted
16:15 cait1 most likely not your last :)
16:15 cait1 caroline: around?
16:21 caroline yes
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16:25 cait1 caroline: i noticed that the manual 20.05 files on pootle say they haven't been updated for 4 months and longer
16:25 cait1 so... all the new changes are probably not in there
16:25 magnuse @quote add <oleonard> When has regex NOT been trendy??
16:25 huginn magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:25 cait1 as we don't have 21.05 yet... is there a reason we should not ask Bernardo to update?
16:25 cait1 magnuse: you need to get the nightclub one too :)
16:26 caroline I don't update 20.05 that much
16:26 ashimema but the translators might be ;)
16:26 caroline I rarely backport stuff, unless the writer specifies it is for a specific version
16:26 ashimema to me.. we aught to be 'releasing' a new manual alongside each maintenance release
16:27 magnuse @quote add <oleonard> When has regex NOT been trendy??
16:27 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.  Quote #347 added.
16:27 ashimema indeed.. but you won't even notice translations being done
16:27 ashimema as they're out of band
16:27 magnuse @quote add <oleonard> regex gets to skip the line at the hottest nightclubs
16:27 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.  Quote #348 added.
16:27 ashimema or was that not what cait1 was getting at?
16:27 caroline magnuse++
16:28 caroline I understood that we should ask Bernardo to update the po files on Pootle from the changes in the manual 20.05
16:28 cait1 oh maybe i got the versions wrong...
16:28 cait1 4 months ago would be after release 20.05... an dnot sure when we branches the manual
16:28 cait1 i guess it shoudl last update when the manual is branches?
16:28 cait1 at least?
16:29 caroline I don't have enough brain cells today... -_-
16:29 ashimema sorry cait1
16:29 cait1 could we still ask him? if the 20.05 is stable now i'd like to see if we catch new stuff
16:29 ashimema what are you talking about..
16:29 cait1 i can email tomorrow
16:29 ashimema the po files on
16:29 cait1 i wonder if the po files on pootle match the manual files still
16:29 caroline Isn't that the procedure I was told to do?
16:30 cait1 or if there have been additions to hte manual, that haven't been reflected in them yet
16:30 ashimema or the translated files in gitlab
16:30 cait1 i think what we discussed before was the other direction
16:30 cait1 i had a hard day too :(
16:30 ashimema ok..
16:30 cait1 getting the po files from pootle to the manual repo
16:30 caroline It's not even noon here, so I don't even have that excuse! lol!
16:30 cait1 but we haven't discussed yet if they are kept current
16:30 ashimema 20.05, 19.11, 19.05, 18.11 and 18.05 are all updated nightly on pootle from gitlab
16:31 cait1 hm where do you see that?
16:31 cait1 or do you mean the manual?
16:31 cait1 see here
16:31 cait1 it says lat updated 7 months ago
16:31 ashimema the opposite is not true.. those still need to be manually done by caroline.. but going to the tools page, requesting an update which will trigger a merge request from bernardo's repo into the main gitlab
16:31 cait1 yes, that's getting the po files out of pootle
16:31 cait1 but inside pootle, they need to be current
16:32 cait1 created from a current state of the manual
16:32 ashimema and they should be
16:32 ashimema they are updated every night on the server in the background
16:32 cait1 that's what I was wondering looking at the dates
16:32 cait1 maybe not played out into pootle then?
16:32 ashimema `# check last commit so seen if we need to update po files`
16:32 cait1 i coudl ask him tomorrow and cc the 2 of you.. or leave it up to you, I didn't want to interfere
16:33 cait1 i just have been owrking on the 20.05 a lot
16:33 cait1 as you can see :)
16:33 ashimema so.. it only actually does anything if there's a commit on gitlab for that branch
16:33 ashimema so.. if caroline hasn't backported anything during those 4 months.. then they're up to date ;)
16:33 cait1 can you see when the last update to 20.05 was?
16:33 cait1 does it atch the 7 months?
16:33 caroline and lke I said, I don't backport much, so maybe there hasn't been an update to 20.05 in 4 months
16:33 cait1 hm patrons and administration is 4months
16:33 cait1 so that could be actually
16:34 cait1 ok
16:34 cait1 yep that makes sense
16:34 cait1 an dit makes me happy too
16:34 cait1 i was worried to have to start over again with a lot of translating
16:34 ashimema[…]ts/manual20.05.x/
16:34 caroline ok if I recap, a commit to a branch updates the files on pootle, but to update the manuals from pootle, I need to do the manual manipulation, is that right?
16:34 ashimema so yeah.. the last 'real' change was 4 months ago
16:35 cait1 yep that matches perfectly
16:35 oleonard Is there a log that shows XSLT errors?
16:35 cait1 patrons.rst updated 4 months ago is reflected on pootle
16:35 cait1 so that's great
16:35 cait1 oleonard: which version?
16:35 wahanui which version is thiis?
16:35 oleonard master
16:35 cait1 it was broken for a while, but hte normal logs show the xslt errors if all is good
16:35 cait1 unless we broke it again...
16:35 cait1 plack err log i think
16:36 cait1 bug 24131
16:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Improved formatting for output of updatedatabase
16:36 cait1 gr.
16:36 cait1 bug 24313
16:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24313 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, XSLT errors should show in the logs
16:37 cait1 caroline++ ashimema++ together against translation confusion :)
16:37 ashimema 😀
16:37 caroline sounds lika an association name TATC
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16:38 caroline Our slogan "We will not be confused!"
16:38 oleonard Am I looking at the wrong log? "koha-plack-err" doesn't show anything.
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16:40 reiveune bye
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16:41 oleonard koha-plack-log doesn't show anything...
16:42 oleonard Oh it's plack-opac-error.log I want
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16:44 oleonard http error : Unknown IO error
16:50 ashimema Ps, I just triggered a rebuild of the 20.05 branch.. looks like the last translation merge got the manual didn't actually get pushed for release
16:50 ashimema Due to the space issues the key few weeks
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16:56 caroline[…]20.05/zh_TW/html/ is still behind https://translate.koha-communi[…]W/html/index.html
16:56 caroline Which was the original problem that prompted all this
17:08 ashimema the build is running now
17:08 ashimema[…]anual/-/pipelines
17:09 ashimema do you ever build the manual yourself Caroline?
17:10 ashimema I note when I do there's an absolute tonne of errors..
17:10 ashimema I feel like we should try to clean those up at some point
17:10 caroline ashimema: I do, locally
17:11 caroline but I disabled the spell checking because I dont have the right python version it seems
17:11 caroline I tried googling the label errors and I didn't find a satisfactory answer
17:12 caroline there is also one image reference that I need to get to... eventually
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18:22 * cait waves
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19:16 oleonard How do I get an additional field to show up in the serial claims table?
19:17 caroline iirc, it just does when you add the field
19:18 caroline I didn't do anything special and my field is there
19:19 oleonard Does the MARC field accept just a tag number? or a number and letter, like 245a?
19:24 caroline It has to be 245$a (with the $ between the field and subfield)
19:25 caroline hm... now that you mention it, additional MARC fields aren't in the claims table
19:25 caroline I have bothe a regular and MARC field in my subscription and only the regular is in the claims table
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19:50 oleonard Hi aleisha_
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20:03 cait it might depend on if searchable
20:03 cait ?
20:03 cait i know that manual claims it's either searchable or marc tag
20:03 cait (just translated that)
20:04 cait children to automatically be come adults = become?
20:05 oleonard Yes
20:09 cait Set up␠:ref:`MARC matching rules <record-matching-rules-label>` for importing records from mrc files or Z39.50
20:09 cait ... does the Z39.50 bit make sense there?
20:15 caroline I've never seen that you can match records using Z39.50
20:16 caroline maybe in acquisitions?
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20:18 cait don't think so
20:19 cait i mean I think that does not apply to z39.50 anywher
20:19 cait :ref:`OpacSuppression <opacsuppression-preferences-label>`␠: Decide if you want to hide items marked as suppressed from the OPAC search results  => records not items...
20:22 cait not trying to be nit-picky... translation side effects
20:22 cait will file for the academy
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20:31 cait gnah - already fixed in 20.11 manual :)
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20:44 cait tcohen++ mailinglist reply :)
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21:13 cait aleisha: around?
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