Time  Nick         Message
03:25 aleisha      hi all! does anyone know what version of bootstrap koha uses?
06:51 reiveune     hello
07:27 alex_a       Bonjour
07:27 wahanui      que tal, alex_a
07:42 magnuse      \o/
07:42 magnuse      nice, we have translated "bootstrap" on the licenses page...
08:16 cait1        good morning #koha!
08:18 magnuse      kia ora cait1
08:21 Joubu        aleisha: OPAC is using bootstrap v4.5.0 in 20.11 (bug 20168)
08:21 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27336: Fix xt/find-missing-filters.t <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6be845a785db29a946742edb7c52a0057d6b5f8b>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27336: Add POD for new package <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0db3787a20e928c2ee8e5b0ce2d636c5bf8763cf>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27349: DBRev 20.12.00.003 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f03a9e974a930416e237b846fe78b8e0e5b3404>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27349: (QA follow-up) Move DB update to perl file and add description <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37b5a14f4ca07a6b25960764a4214b00f9831542>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27336: Sanitize correctly HTML id <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d89f6027be001d537b0eb73ea3fb4641d5fcd292>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27349: Fix Mana system preference wrong type <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=557d2137d6dcfa1ce6f816c1d55c254418fe581c>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24470: Mark a batch as 'imported' if all the bib has been imported <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99cebb82dc6fd1aa3f7466f03a267cac9deedc6c>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 26797: Escape firstname to prevent relative's checkouts to crash <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13fb0906be41e6f2f5effb89321bcac8371c8b45>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27109: Remove Replay action - not implemented <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30cb954cc698853423d7afa4ead6716c73ad5c6d>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27109: Improve labels on the background job views <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ab65aa6c36754db9c6b9e90efde6b05fec147a7>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 27090: Opac basket: fix the 'In transit from' and 'to' <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7be57c66085071fea763a572ac2a6ceb82641297>
09:30 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 25292: Flushing L1 on every Z3950 server search <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e466c4130406748fdd2d74d5fbee161e4f79cf92>
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09:56 ashimema     humm.. is 20.11.01 not packaged yet?
09:56 ashimema     mtj ?
09:56 wahanui      i think mtj is indifferent :) - but i think cron.daily is the established rule
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10:33 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
10:33 wahanui      Congratulations!
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11:14 oleonard     Hi all
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11:34 ashimema     Morning oleonard
11:34 oleonard     Just looking at Bug 27289 again
11:34 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page
11:45 oleonard     ashimema: I'm confused about your last comment on that bug. Did you mean to say a different bug number?
11:45 ashimema     poop
11:45 ashimema     yep
11:46 ashimema     the one that depends on it
11:46 ashimema     bug 27290
11:46 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27290 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, BLOCKED , Cash register allows for 'amount tendered' less than amount being paid
11:47 ashimema     somehow the validation routines have got a bit of a mess in that template.. like.. we called `.validate' twice in the JS block in the document onload and also had a bit of a mish mash with defining required in JS and in HTML
11:47 ashimema     so with both our bugs we sort some of that out.. but I'm not sure how to achieve what Katrin is asking for..
11:50 ashimema     I 'think' we can either remove the $( "#payForm").validate call from the document onload JS block entirely.. or possibly better still move it to trigger on the confirm onclick or something.. I can't really remember how jQuery validate works
11:54 oleonard     Oh... duh... The part of the script that copies the price to the "amount being paid" field is calling the validation routine directly. Take that out and it doesn't trigger.
11:55 oleonard     However...
11:55 ashimema     . . .
11:56 oleonard     Having it validate as you "Add" means that the validation on the "amount tendered" field updates as you add items to the sale.
11:57 oleonard     Add amount tendered to the form; add multiple items for purchase -> The validation updates the message, Please enter a value greater than or equal to XX.XX
11:57 oleonard     I'm definitely leaning towards not doing anything
11:57 ashimema     indeed
11:57 ashimema     I think that's why I did it that way
11:57 ashimema     so we just need to suggest to cait that it's a feature not a bug ;)
11:57 ashimema     cool
11:58 ashimema     silly question.. do we need the validate call that's outside of the updateChangeValues() at all?
12:00 oleonard     We definitely don't need two
12:00 ashimema     I remove the one of them in that second bug ;)
12:01 ashimema     I actually did the same stuff as you cleaning up the template too... then I spotted you'd done the same so I just made mine depend on yours instead
12:01 oleonard     But I think we do need one
12:01 ashimema     okies, makes sense
12:23 dolf         Question: I do not know if this is a bug, or something wrong with my setup. When deleting a patron, I get a 500 error, with this in the logs: End of script output before headers: deletemem.pl
12:23 oleonard     What Koha version dolf?
12:24 dolf         I think 20.11. Let me look it up
12:24 dolf         yup. 20.11.00.000
12:27 oleonard     I can't reproduce that problem in 20.11.01.001
12:27 Joubu        dolf: another error before?
12:27 Joubu        are you trying to delete the anonymous patron? (see pref AnonymousPareon)
12:27 Joubu        AnonymousPatron*
12:28 Joubu        bug 27144
12:28 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27144 critical, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, RESOLVED FIXED, Cannot delete any patrons
12:30 dolf         I tried to delete a normal patron. Thanks for the bug link. I'll keep an eye out for the fix.
12:31 Joubu        there is a fix already, it will be part of 20.11.01
12:31 Joubu        you can apply it locally (it's a missing semicolon) if needed
12:33 * ashimema   is slowly creeping up the QA stats leaderboard :)
12:40 dolf         thanks!
12:44 * cait1      cheers ashimema on
12:45 cait1        .01 is already released, wiating for the packages, rightß
12:45 cait1        ?
12:53 dolf         yes, I'm following the debian packages
12:54 ashimema     I believe so
13:21 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:21 wahanui      Congratulations!
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14:04 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:04 wahanui      Congratulations!
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14:14 cait1        hm I got the question how Koha encrypts the password
14:14 cait1        does smeone have this information on hand maybe?
14:14 cait1        i know we are using bcrypt but wonder if it needs some more detail
14:14 cait1        the question is about if they can change their app to work with th encrypted passwords in koha, doing the comparison there
14:19 magnuse      cait1: https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/Koha/AuthUtils.pm#L57
14:19 magnuse      dunno how to explain that in hooman language, though ;-)
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14:22 koha-jenkins joubu: Bug 24470: Mark a batch as 'imported' if all the bib has been imported
14:22 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24470 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to stable , Set import_status when file used to populate basket in acquisitions
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15:04 oleonard     Is there a reason why we don't have RegEx options on batch patron modification, besides "we haven't got to it"
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16:09 cait1        oleonard: I think regex was no t trendy when it was introduced? :)
16:10 cait1        magnuse: was hoping for "hooman dev" but the link is very helpful already, thx!
16:11 oleonard     When has regex NOT been trendy??
16:12 oleonard     regex gets to skip the line at the hottest nightclubs
16:12 cait1        lol
16:13 cait1        oleonard: this woudl be so much less fun without you :)
16:13 cait1        if i remembered my login (which I don't) I'd quote add you constantly
16:14 oleonard     My last chance at fame is thwarted
16:15 cait1        most likely not your last :)
16:15 cait1        caroline: around?
16:21 caroline     yes
16:25 cait1        caroline: i noticed that the manual 20.05 files on pootle say they haven't been updated for 4 months and longer
16:25 cait1        so... all the new changes are probably not in there
16:25 magnuse      @quote add <oleonard> When has regex NOT been trendy??
16:25 huginn       magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:25 cait1        as we don't have 21.05 yet... is there a reason we should not ask Bernardo to update?
16:25 cait1        magnuse: you need to get the nightclub one too :)
16:26 caroline     I don't update 20.05 that much
16:26 ashimema     but the translators might be ;)
16:26 caroline     I rarely backport stuff, unless the writer specifies it is for a specific version
16:26 ashimema     to me.. we aught to be 'releasing' a new manual alongside each maintenance release
16:27 magnuse      @quote add <oleonard> When has regex NOT been trendy??
16:27 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.  Quote #347 added.
16:27 ashimema     indeed.. but you won't even notice translations being done
16:27 ashimema     as they're out of band
16:27 magnuse      @quote add <oleonard> regex gets to skip the line at the hottest nightclubs
16:27 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.  Quote #348 added.
16:27 ashimema     or was that not what cait1 was getting at?
16:27 caroline     magnuse++
16:28 caroline     I understood that we should ask Bernardo to update the po files on Pootle from the changes in the manual 20.05
16:28 cait1        oh maybe i got the versions wrong...
16:28 cait1        4 months ago would be after release 20.05... an dnot sure when we branches the manual
16:28 cait1        i guess it shoudl last update when the manual is branches?
16:28 cait1        at least?
16:29 caroline     I don't have enough brain cells today... -_-
16:29 ashimema     sorry cait1
16:29 cait1        could we still ask him? if the 20.05 is stable now i'd like to see if we catch new stuff
16:29 ashimema     what are you talking about..
16:29 cait1        i can email tomorrow
16:29 ashimema     the po files on translate.koha-community.org
16:29 cait1        i wonder if the po files on pootle match the manual files still
16:29 caroline     Isn't that the procedure I was told to do?
16:30 cait1        or if there have been additions to hte manual, that haven't been reflected in them yet
16:30 ashimema     or the translated files in gitlab
16:30 cait1        i think what we discussed before was the other direction
16:30 cait1        i had a hard day too :(
16:30 ashimema     ok..
16:30 cait1        getting the po files from pootle to the manual repo
16:30 caroline     It's not even noon here, so I don't even have that excuse! lol!
16:30 cait1        but we haven't discussed yet if they are kept current
16:30 ashimema     20.05, 19.11, 19.05, 18.11 and 18.05 are all updated nightly on pootle from gitlab
16:31 cait1        hm where do you see that?
16:31 cait1        or do you mean the manual?
16:31 cait1        https://translate.koha-community.org/de/man20.05/ see here
16:31 cait1        it says lat updated 7 months ago
16:31 ashimema     the opposite is not true.. those still need to be manually done by caroline.. but going to the tools page, requesting an update which will trigger a merge request from bernardo's repo into the main gitlab
16:31 cait1        yes, that's getting the po files out of pootle
16:31 cait1        but inside pootle, they need to be current
16:32 cait1        created from a current state of the manual
16:32 ashimema     and they should be
16:32 ashimema     they are updated every night on the server in the background
16:32 cait1        that's what I was wondering looking at the dates
16:32 cait1        maybe not played out into pootle then?
16:32 ashimema     `# check last commit so seen if we need to update po files`
16:32 cait1        i coudl ask him tomorrow and cc the 2 of you.. or leave it up to you, I didn't want to interfere
16:33 cait1        i just have been owrking on the 20.05 a lot
16:33 cait1        as you can see :)
16:33 ashimema     so.. it only actually does anything if there's a commit on gitlab for that branch
16:33 ashimema     so.. if caroline hasn't backported anything during those 4 months.. then they're up to date ;)
16:33 cait1        can you see when the last update to 20.05 was?
16:33 cait1        does it atch the 7 months?
16:33 caroline     and lke I said, I don't backport much, so maybe there hasn't been an update to 20.05 in 4 months
16:33 cait1        hm patrons and administration is 4months
16:33 cait1        so that could be actually
16:34 cait1        ok
16:34 cait1        yep that makes sense
16:34 cait1        an dit makes me happy too
16:34 cait1        i was worried to have to start over again with a lot of translating
16:34 ashimema     https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commits/manual20.05.x/
16:34 caroline     ok if I recap, a commit to a branch updates the files on pootle, but to update the manuals from pootle, I need to do the manual manipulation, is that right?
16:34 ashimema     so yeah.. the last 'real' change was 4 months ago
16:35 cait1        yep that matches perfectly
16:35 oleonard     Is there a log that shows XSLT errors?
16:35 cait1        patrons.rst updated 4 months ago is reflected on pootle
16:35 cait1        so that's great
16:35 cait1        oleonard: which version?
16:35 wahanui      which version is thiis?
16:35 oleonard     master
16:35 cait1        it was broken for a while, but hte normal logs show the xslt errors if all is good
16:35 cait1        unless we broke it again...
16:35 cait1        plack err log i think
16:36 cait1        bug 24131
16:36 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Improved formatting for output of updatedatabase
16:36 cait1        gr.
16:36 cait1        bug 24313
16:36 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24313 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, XSLT errors should show in the logs
16:37 cait1        caroline++ ashimema++ together against translation confusion :)
16:37 ashimema     😀
16:37 caroline     sounds lika an association name TATC
16:38 caroline     Our slogan "We will not be confused!"
16:38 oleonard     Am I looking at the wrong log? "koha-plack-err" doesn't show anything.
16:40 reiveune     bye
16:41 oleonard     koha-plack-log doesn't show anything...
16:42 oleonard     Oh it's plack-opac-error.log I want
16:44 oleonard     http error : Unknown IO error
16:50 ashimema     Ps, I just triggered a rebuild of the 20.05 branch.. looks like the last translation merge got the manual didn't actually get pushed for release
16:50 ashimema     Due to the space issues the key few weeks
16:56 caroline     https://koha-community.org/manual/20.05/zh_TW/html/ is still behind https://translate.koha-community.org/manual/20.05/zh_TW/html/index.html
16:56 caroline     Which was the original problem that prompted all this
17:08 ashimema     the build is running now
17:08 ashimema     https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/pipelines
17:09 ashimema     do you ever build the manual yourself Caroline?
17:10 ashimema     I note when I do there's an absolute tonne of errors..
17:10 ashimema     I feel like we should try to clean those up at some point
17:10 caroline     ashimema: I do, locally
17:11 caroline     but I disabled the spell checking because I dont have the right python version it seems
17:11 caroline     I tried googling the label errors and I didn't find a satisfactory answer
17:12 caroline     there is also one image reference that I need to get to... eventually
18:22 * cait       waves
19:16 oleonard     How do I get an additional field to show up in the serial claims table?
19:17 caroline     iirc, it just does when you add the field
19:18 caroline     I didn't do anything special and my field is there
19:19 oleonard     Does the MARC field accept just a tag number? or a number and letter, like 245a?
19:24 caroline     It has to be 245$a (with the $ between the field and subfield)
19:25 caroline     hm... now that you mention it, additional MARC fields aren't in the claims table
19:25 caroline     I have bothe a regular and MARC field in my subscription and only the regular is in the claims table
19:50 oleonard     Hi aleisha_
20:03 cait         it might depend on if searchable
20:03 cait         ?
20:03 cait         i know that manual claims it's either searchable or marc tag
20:03 cait         (just translated that)
20:04 cait         children to automatically be come adults = become?
20:05 oleonard     Yes
20:09 cait         Set up␠:ref:`MARC matching rules <record-matching-rules-label>` for importing records from mrc files or Z39.50
20:09 cait         ... does the Z39.50 bit make sense there?
20:15 caroline     I've never seen that you can match records using Z39.50
20:16 caroline     maybe in acquisitions?
20:18 cait         don't think so
20:19 cait         i mean I think that does not apply to z39.50 anywher
20:19 cait         :ref:`OpacSuppression <opacsuppression-preferences-label>`␠: Decide if you want to hide items marked as suppressed from the OPAC search results  => records not items...
20:22 cait         not trying to be nit-picky... translation side effects
20:22 cait         will file for the academy
20:31 cait         gnah - already fixed in 20.11 manual :)
20:44 cait         tcohen++ mailinglist reply :)
21:13 cait         aleisha: around?
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