IRC log for #koha, 2020-12-03

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00:26 dcook Just remembered that auto truncate turns off field weighting. Derp..
00:31 cait ... you want ot fix it... *whispers*
00:31 cait *you are overcome by a strong urge to fix it... * (tries hypnosis)
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01:00 aleisha hello!
01:01 aleisha does anyone know if there's a way to control which branch a patron category can borrow items from? for example category A can borrow items from Branch A and B but category B can only borrow items from Branch B
01:01 aleisha we've thought of having circ rules and giving the items like BranchAItem and BranchBItem types
01:02 aleisha but is there a better way to do this that someone knows of?
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05:42 dcook @later tell cait Just noticed your comment now but I totally fixed it heh. Bug 12430
05:42 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:42 dcook bug 12430
05:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12430 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Search truncation disables relevance ranking
05:42 dcook There we go
05:43 dcook aleisha: I was thinking about something the concept of controlling which branch a patron category can borrow from but... didn't think too much about the actual implementation.
05:46 * dcook was just thinking that he could be a QA contact for Zebra, except that he's often the one writing patches for Zebra heh
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07:09 reiveune hello
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07:22 alex_a Bonjour
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08:15 magnuse \o/
08:20 ashimema dcook++
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08:22 fridolin yey
08:31 * ashimema updates KohaAdvent timezone to us europeans get to see it when we wake up.. instead of having to wait for the americans to wake up
08:50 magnuse ashimema++
08:51 ashimema think that last one still needs a little more polishing.. I'm reading it now
08:51 ashimema another great effort from tcohen :)
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09:10 magnuse tcohen++
09:42 davidnind ++ to whomever managed to change the YouTube channel name to KohaILS
09:44 davidnind I had tried to change it to Koha or Koha-Community before Kohacon20, but couldn't get it to work for me, KohaILS is a much better idea!
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11:24 tuxayo hi #koha o/
11:25 tuxayo I got a question about ClaimReturnedLostValue, if it's disabled, should we say "Claim returned is disabled" or "Return claims are disabled" in the UI? (for QA of bug 25583)
11:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25583 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , When ClaimReturnedLostValue is not set, the claim returned tab doesn't appear
11:49 cait1 ashimema: the advent calendar is really looking great - just took a screenshot to advertise to the students
11:50 cait1 hm i feel the second, but also not a native speaker
11:50 cait1 oleonard-away: ... is away
11:51 tcohen morning
11:51 cait1 morning tcohen
11:51 cait1 oh wow
11:52 cait1 we got up to 10.841 libaries on hea
11:52 cait1 might have to update the 15.000 guess?
11:53 cait1 gmcharlt: you once had a nice statistics saying we had about 30.000 downloads for koha in 2018 - do you happen to have some numbers for this and last year maybe?
11:56 tuxayo cait1: that's 500 more compared to the 12th november :o
11:57 tuxayo 14 month ago, Hea reported only 3.633 libraries
11:57 tuxayo[…]
11:57 cait1 < not misreading right?
11:57 cait1 just updating my slides :)
12:01 tcohen aleisha take a look at the new 'local hold groups' feature. It allows to group libraries as pikcup locations for holds, which is... similar.
12:03 tuxayo The distribution of the numbers on Hea looks legit. It seems Koha is taking over the world ^^
12:04 oleonard o/
12:04 * oleonard votes "Return claims are disabled"
12:09 tcohen lots of spanish libraries suddenly started sending data
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12:10 tuxayo 61?
12:12 tuxayo Meanwhile UAE double from 600 to 1200. It seems all the schools of the country are there :D
12:22 tuxayo thanks oleonard :)
12:33 tuxayo jajm around? Is it recommended that all the new strings be wrapped with t() or will it be only after Bug 26392 and those related?
12:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26392 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Wrap all translatable strings in
12:34 tuxayo Or should we only do that for those needing context or plurals?
12:37 jajm tuxayo, i'd recommend to use it everywhere, but i'm not sure if everyone agree
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12:41 tuxayo jajm: thanks :)
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13:17 magnuse so, it's not possible to have an extended patron attribute show up in the patron self registration form? i was pretty sure i had that working at some point...
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13:19 magnuse ah, bug 26973
13:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26973 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to oldstable , extendedPatronAttributes not showing during selfregistration
13:19 magnuse fixed in 20.11.00, 20.05.06, 19.11.12
13:20 Guest7457 Hello, i just updatet to 20.11. and try to register a new patreon in opac. Upon submitting the form i get an internal server error. Plack-Error.log shows "[You must provide a patron's category to validate password's strength and length]". In the Form there is a message to provide a password with undefind lenght. In the administrator setting the passwor lenght is defindet as 4 letters minimum. Can anyone help?
13:31 cait1 do you have patron categories defiend in your system? is the field hidden from the patron form maybe?
13:37 kidclamp oleonard++
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14:12 Guest7457 @cait1 We have got some categorys defined but can you tell me where i can check the visibility setting? The setup worked fine before the update btw.
14:12 huginn Guest7457: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
14:12 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:18 Joubu Guest7457: can you open a bug report please?
14:18 Joubu I do recreate the problem if PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField contains "categorycode"
14:31 Guest7457 Joubu, Bugreport has been created: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27148
14:31 huginn Bug 27148: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Internal Server Error during self registration 20.11
14:31 Joubu sorry, I opened one :t/
14:31 Joubu :-/
14:31 Joubu bug 27147
14:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=27147 critical, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, ASSIGNED , Self registration broken if PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField contains "categorycode"
14:38 amoyano oleonard do you want me to take care of bug 27147?
14:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=27147 critical, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Self registration broken if PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField contains "categorycode"
14:38 amoyano sorry, ment bug 27148
14:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=27148 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Internal Server Error during self registration 20.11
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14:45 ashimema gmcharlt around?
14:57 tcohen @seen gmcharlt
14:57 huginn tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 0 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> but thank you
15:04 caroline ashimema: sorry to bother you with this again, did you have time to test a fresh db install?
15:04 ashimema sorry.. struggling with priorities for customers at the minute.
15:04 caroline ok For the time being, i'll ask my colleagues for an older db
15:04 ashimema ta
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15:22 oleonard caroline: Is your problem with an installation of master and an empty database?
15:34 caroline oleonard: yes
15:34 caroline did you also have that problem?
15:35 oleonard No I was going to see if I could reproduce it
15:36 caroline The problem occurs when I use the Web installer to create the database
15:37 caroline thank you so much for trying!
15:37 * oleonard could not reproduce :(
15:38 caroline I have a colleague who had the same problem, but we're trying to see if it's the way our installation is done or if it's a problem with the db files
15:39 oleonard I should have asked... with English?
15:43 Joubu Is your "measurement" syspref set to "metric"?
15:43 caroline yes I tried in English and french
15:44 caroline I was actually trying to test the installation in french for the new translations of yml files
15:45 caroline it wouldn't work, so I tried in english and it didnt work either
15:45 caroline :/
15:46 caroline Also, has anyone else gotten an email about ppl trying to translate Koha in traiditional Chinese?
15:46 caroline I'm not sure how I can help
15:46 caroline "Atron, my colleague, and I are busy in translating Koha 20.05 document to traditional Chinese. But we find, it seems not convert to html version for all. We hope our effort can share more Koha users who need traditional Chinese translation. Can you guide us to do the next step? Please advise."
15:49 caroline actually rereading this it seems to be the Koha manual
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18:35 tcohen is so sad to read
18:35 tcohen it's grown too much
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18:46 tuxayo tcohen: I feel you, I'm working on, and
18:47 tcohen this is all pre-Koha::Object obviously
18:47 cait all remember... small steps
18:47 tcohen but it feels like it could all be replaced with couple lines haha
18:47 * cait will make this her mantry this cycle :)
18:47 tcohen yes cait, yes
18:47 tcohen but on
18:48 * tuxayo tries to do a small step :D
18:48 tcohen theres' a huge array of hashes that is only used for then extracting 'items' columns
18:48 tcohen if I have a Koha::Items iteratos ($biblio->items)
18:48 tcohen it is so tempting to just... delete it all
18:48 tcohen hehe
18:48 oleonard Burn it to the ground tcohen
18:49 tcohen yaz!
18:49 cait lol
18:49 tcohen thanks oleonard
18:49 cait i don't think that'd be a smal step
18:49 tcohen that's what i wanted to read
18:49 tcohen haha
18:50 tcohen I will submit a follow-up bug to clean it all, cait. Don't worry
18:50 tcohen I want this to be backportable
18:50 tcohen the idea is to use bug 24254
18:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24254 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Items->filter_by_visible_in_opac
18:50 tcohen on bug 15448
18:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15448 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , OPACHiddenItems show in OPAC when patron places a hold on a specific item
18:52 cait oh yes please fix that one
18:52 tcohen aha
18:52 tcohen now I've got your attention
18:52 tcohen lets talk about QAing all my stuff
18:52 tcohen haha
18:52 * tcohen feels funny this evening
18:52 tcohen yeah, working on it
18:53 tcohen (y)
18:53 * cait feels funny too
18:53 cait too much slides in not enough days
18:53 cait cait?
18:53 wahanui i think cait is going to add one for a follow-up on the receive/currnecy/preselect we talked about
18:53 cait hm ok
18:56 cait slides?
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19:12 juanyo Hello everyone : Can someone tell me if you use a barcode scanner and how do I implement it?
19:12 cait they basically just work
19:12 cait a barcode scanner works similar to a normal keyboard
19:13 cait you plug it in and can "scan" the text of the barcode into a text field, editor or whatever
19:13 caroline My experience is the same, you just plug it in
19:14 cait you don't need to do any special setup in Koha
19:17 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "cait, tuxayo, Joubu: tiny enough?" (24 lines) at
19:18 juanyo Thank you for your answers! I was wondering if you would like to do an inventory using it?
19:18 oleonard i would not like to do an inventory without a barcode scanner!
19:18 tcohen juanyo of course!
19:19 caroline yes it's possible
19:19 caroline juanyo:[…]ls.html#inventory
19:19 tcohen open a plain text editor, scan the shelve, use the list you got with the inventory tool!
19:20 tuxayo tcohen: tiny code indeed ^^
19:21 juanyo thank you for your great help, sorry i am a beginner in koha
19:21 oleonard No problem juanyo we love to be able to help
19:21 tcohen no need to be sorry here
19:21 tcohen glad to hear of another Koha user!
19:21 caroline yes! what oleonard said :)
20:01 tuxayo Does anyone know if clubs are affected by any sort of circulation rule for placing holds?
20:03 cait hm i guess if you can't place holds it will not place a club hold either ofr the patron
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20:03 cait i don't think they are a special type, but i migh tb ewrong
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20:15 aleisha thanks tcohen i'll look into local hold groups!
20:15 tuxayo cait: thanks, so it's just a way to place many holds a once
20:16 cait i think os
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