Time  Nick       Message
00:26 dcook      Just remembered that auto truncate turns off field weighting. Derp..
00:31 cait       ... you want ot fix it... *whispers*
00:31 cait       *you are overcome by a strong urge to fix it... * (tries hypnosis)
01:00 aleisha    hello!
01:01 aleisha    does anyone know if there's a way to control which branch a patron category can borrow items from? for example category A can borrow items from Branch A and B but category B can only borrow items from Branch B
01:01 aleisha    we've thought of having circ rules and giving the items like BranchAItem and BranchBItem types
01:02 aleisha    but is there a better way to do this that someone knows of?
05:42 dcook      @later tell cait Just noticed your comment now but I totally fixed it heh. Bug 12430
05:42 huginn     dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:42 dcook      bug 12430
05:42 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12430 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Search truncation disables relevance ranking
05:42 dcook      There we go
05:43 dcook      aleisha: I was thinking about something the concept of controlling which branch a patron category can borrow from but... didn't think too much about the actual implementation.
05:46 * dcook    was just thinking that he could be a QA contact for Zebra, except that he's often the one writing patches for Zebra heh
07:09 reiveune   hello
07:22 alex_a     Bonjour
08:15 magnuse    \o/
08:20 ashimema   dcook++
08:22 fridolin   yey
08:31 * ashimema updates KohaAdvent timezone to us europeans get to see it when we wake up.. instead of having to wait for the americans to wake up
08:50 magnuse    ashimema++
08:51 ashimema   think that last one still needs a little more polishing.. I'm reading it now
08:51 ashimema   another great effort from tcohen :)
09:10 magnuse    tcohen++
09:42 davidnind  ++ to whomever managed to change the YouTube channel name to KohaILS https://www.youtube.com/c/KohaILS
09:44 davidnind  I had tried to change it to Koha or Koha-Community before Kohacon20, but couldn't get it to work for me, KohaILS is a much better idea!
11:24 tuxayo     hi #koha o/
11:25 tuxayo     I got a question about ClaimReturnedLostValue, if it's disabled, should we say "Claim returned is disabled" or "Return claims are disabled" in the UI? (for QA of bug 25583)
11:25 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25583 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , When ClaimReturnedLostValue is not set, the claim returned tab doesn't appear
11:49 cait1      ashimema: the advent calendar is really looking great - just took a screenshot to advertise to the students
11:50 cait1      hm i feel the second, but also not a native speaker
11:50 cait1      oleonard-away: ... is away
11:51 tcohen     morning
11:51 cait1      morning tcohen
11:51 cait1      oh wow
11:52 cait1      we got up to 10.841 libaries on hea
11:52 cait1      might have to update the 15.000 guess?
11:53 cait1      gmcharlt: you once had a nice statistics saying we had about 30.000 downloads for koha in 2018 - do you happen to have some numbers for this and last year maybe?
11:56 tuxayo     cait1: that's 500 more compared to the 12th november :o
11:57 tuxayo     14 month ago, Hea reported only 3.633 libraries
11:57 tuxayo     https://web.archive.org/web/20190924085903/https://hea.koha-community.org/
11:57 cait1      https://hea.koha-community.org/ < not misreading right?
11:57 cait1      just updating my slides :)
12:01 tcohen     aleisha take a look at the new 'local hold groups' feature. It allows to group libraries as pikcup locations for holds, which is... similar.
12:03 tuxayo     The distribution of the numbers on Hea looks legit. It seems Koha is taking over the world ^^
12:04 oleonard   o/
12:04 * oleonard votes "Return claims are disabled"
12:09 tcohen     lots of spanish libraries suddenly started sending data
12:10 tuxayo     61?
12:12 tuxayo     Meanwhile UAE double from 600 to 1200. It seems all the schools of the country are there :D
12:22 tuxayo     thanks oleonard :)
12:33 tuxayo     jajm around? Is it recommended that all the new strings be wrapped with t() or will it be only after Bug 26392 and those related?
12:33 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26392 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Wrap all translatable strings in opac-main.tt
12:34 tuxayo     Or should we only do that for those needing context or plurals?
12:37 jajm       tuxayo, i'd recommend to use it everywhere, but i'm not sure if everyone agree
12:41 tuxayo     jajm: thanks :)
13:17 magnuse    so, it's not possible to have an extended patron attribute show up in the patron self registration form? i was pretty sure i had that working at some point...
13:19 magnuse    ah, bug 26973
13:19 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26973 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to oldstable , extendedPatronAttributes not showing during selfregistration
13:19 magnuse    fixed in 20.11.00, 20.05.06, 19.11.12
13:20 Guest7457  Hello, i just updatet to 20.11. and try to register a new patreon in opac. Upon submitting the form i get an internal server error. Plack-Error.log shows "[You must provide a patron's category to validate password's strength and length]". In the Form there is a message to provide a password with undefind lenght. In the administrator setting the passwor lenght is defindet as 4 letters minimum. Can anyone help?
13:31 cait1      do you have patron categories defiend in your system? is the field hidden from the patron form maybe?
13:37 kidclamp   oleonard++
14:12 Guest7457  @cait1 We have got some categorys defined but can you tell me where i can check the visibility setting? The setup worked fine before the update btw.
14:12 huginn     Guest7457: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
14:12 wahanui    i already had it that way, huginn.
14:18 Joubu      Guest7457: can you open a bug report please?
14:18 Joubu      I do recreate the problem if PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField contains "categorycode"
14:31 Guest7457  Joubu, Bugreport has been created: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27148
14:31 huginn     Bug 27148: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Internal Server Error during self registration 20.11
14:31 Joubu      sorry, I opened one :t/
14:31 Joubu      :-/
14:31 Joubu      bug 27147
14:31 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27147 critical, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, ASSIGNED , Self registration broken if PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField contains "categorycode"
14:38 amoyano    oleonard do you want me to take care of bug 27147?
14:38 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27147 critical, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Self registration broken if PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField contains "categorycode"
14:38 amoyano    sorry, ment bug 27148
14:38 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27148 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Internal Server Error during self registration 20.11
14:45 ashimema   gmcharlt around?
14:57 tcohen     @seen gmcharlt
14:57 huginn     tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 0 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> but thank you
15:04 caroline   ashimema: sorry to bother you with this again, did you have time to test a fresh db install?
15:04 ashimema   sorry.. struggling with priorities for customers at the minute.
15:04 caroline   ok For the time being, i'll ask my colleagues for an older db
15:04 ashimema   ta
15:22 oleonard   caroline: Is your problem with an installation of master and an empty database?
15:34 caroline   oleonard: yes
15:34 caroline   did you also have that problem?
15:35 oleonard   No I was going to see if I could reproduce it
15:36 caroline   The problem occurs when I use the Web installer to create the database
15:37 caroline   thank you so much for trying!
15:37 * oleonard could not reproduce :(
15:38 caroline   I have a colleague who had the same problem, but we're trying to see if it's the way our installation is done or if it's a problem with the db files
15:39 oleonard   I should have asked... with English?
15:43 Joubu      Is your "measurement" syspref set to "metric"?
15:43 caroline   yes I tried in English and french
15:44 caroline   I was actually trying to test the installation in french for the new translations of yml files
15:45 caroline   it wouldn't work, so I tried in english and it didnt work either
15:45 caroline   :/
15:46 caroline   Also, has anyone else gotten an email about ppl trying to translate Koha in traiditional Chinese?
15:46 caroline   I'm not sure how I can help
15:46 caroline   "Atron, my colleague, and I are busy in translating Koha 20.05 document to traditional Chinese. But we find, it seems not convert to html version for all. We hope our effort can share more Koha users who need traditional Chinese translation. Can you guide us to do the next step? Please advise."
15:49 caroline   actually rereading this it seems to be the Koha manual
16:02 reiveune   bye
18:35 tcohen     opac-reserve.pl is so sad to read
18:35 tcohen     it's grown too much
18:46 tuxayo     tcohen: I feel you, I'm working on Reserves.pm, request.pl and request.tt
18:47 tcohen     this is all pre-Koha::Object obviously
18:47 cait       all remember... small steps
18:47 tcohen     but it feels like it could all be replaced with couple lines haha
18:47 * cait     will make this her mantry this cycle :)
18:47 tcohen     yes cait, yes
18:47 tcohen     but on opac-request.pl
18:48 * tuxayo   tries to do a small step :D
18:48 tcohen     theres' a huge array of hashes that is only used for then extracting 'items' columns
18:48 tcohen     if I have a Koha::Items iteratos ($biblio->items)
18:48 tcohen     it is so tempting to just... delete it all
18:48 tcohen     hehe
18:48 oleonard   Burn it to the ground tcohen
18:49 tcohen     yaz!
18:49 cait       lol
18:49 tcohen     thanks oleonard
18:49 cait       i don't think that'd be a smal step
18:49 tcohen     that's what i wanted to read
18:49 tcohen     haha
18:50 tcohen     I will submit a follow-up bug to clean it all, cait. Don't worry
18:50 tcohen     I want this to be backportable
18:50 tcohen     the idea is to use bug 24254
18:50 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24254 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Items->filter_by_visible_in_opac
18:50 tcohen     on bug 15448
18:50 huginn     Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15448 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , OPACHiddenItems show in OPAC when patron places a hold on a specific item
18:52 cait       oh yes please fix that one
18:52 tcohen     aha
18:52 tcohen     now I've got your attention
18:52 tcohen     lets talk about QAing all my stuff
18:52 tcohen     haha
18:52 * tcohen   feels funny this evening
18:52 tcohen     yeah, working on it
18:53 tcohen     (y)
18:53 * cait     feels funny too
18:53 cait       too much slides in not enough days
18:53 cait       cait?
18:53 wahanui    i think cait is going to add one for a follow-up on the receive/currnecy/preselect we talked about
18:53 cait       hm ok
18:56 cait       slides?
19:12 juanyo     Hello everyone : Can someone tell me if you use a barcode scanner and how do I implement it?
19:12 cait       they basically just work
19:12 cait       a barcode scanner works similar to a normal keyboard
19:13 cait       you plug it in and can "scan" the text of the barcode into a text field, editor or whatever
19:13 caroline   My experience is the same, you just plug it in
19:14 cait       you don't need to do any special setup in Koha
19:17 pastebot   "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "cait, tuxayo, Joubu: tiny enough?" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26381
19:18 juanyo     Thank you for your answers! I was wondering if you would like to do an inventory using it?
19:18 oleonard   i would not like to do an inventory without a barcode scanner!
19:18 tcohen     juanyo of course!
19:19 caroline   yes it's possible
19:19 caroline   juanyo: https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/tools.html#inventory
19:19 tcohen     open a plain text editor, scan the shelve, use the list you got with the inventory tool!
19:20 tuxayo     tcohen: tiny code indeed ^^
19:21 juanyo     thank you for your great help, sorry i am a beginner in koha
19:21 oleonard   No problem juanyo we love to be able to help
19:21 tcohen     no need to be sorry here
19:21 tcohen     glad to hear of another Koha user!
19:21 caroline   yes! what oleonard said :)
20:01 tuxayo     Does anyone know if clubs are affected by any sort of circulation rule for placing holds?
20:03 cait       hm i guess if you can't place holds it will not place a club hold either ofr the patron
20:03 cait       i don't think they are a special type, but i migh tb ewrong
20:15 aleisha    thanks tcohen i'll look into local hold groups!
20:15 tuxayo     cait: thanks, so it's just a way to place many holds a once
20:16 cait       i think os