IRC log for #koha, 2020-11-02

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04:18 ila_ron hi
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04:22 ila_ron how to export / import  patrons loan history in koha
04:22 ila_ron ?
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07:11 severine_q mornin' #koha !
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08:00 alex_a Bonjour
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08:36 ashimema good morning #koha
08:40 ashimema @later tell caroline where would you like me to slot in info about cashup into the manual.. I see there's a 'Point of sale' rst file, though I don't see that it's linked to from anywhere in the manual presently?
08:40 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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09:30 ashimema no cait yet today?
09:35 cait2 cait in meetings
09:36 ashimema okies.. :)
09:36 ashimema looking forward to catching up when your about :)
09:42 cait2 cait back for a little while :)
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10:02 magnuse ooh, 11 years since i got my first patch into koha :-)
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26706: Compiled CSS <[…]64e439c3e38aa82ae>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25700: (follow-up) 2 minor corrections for KohaCon <[…]fc7f3374c38bb26de>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17515: Order Z3950 server by rank and preserve ordering <[…]dc445a0400dfbef23>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26724: Improve link text for downloading the CSV file on patron import page. <[…]07c0e1887242d7ef8>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26833: Logged in library doesn't show with suggestions count <[…]04b01f1d060e0ba48>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26816: Chomp whitespace around i18n strings <[…]1279228033fc28546>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26723: Improve link text on OverDriveAuthName system preference <[…]4b4638d5aa18844a5>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13701: Remove hardcoded "two weeks" text from list share confirmation <[…]c1ccb76d6cd10abff>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25700: (follow-up) Minor corrections to epoch dates <[…]f3d32757394e87b5e>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25700: Complete KohaCons informations in timeline <[…]b3b8cbb52647802e2>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26758: Correct OPAC ILL requests page markup <[…]b4488a09c649692d8>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26706: Fix btn-default styling for better contrast <[…]9302c43f34c352d08>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26702: Remove explicit libnet-stomp-perl from debian/ <[…]6c59d831512ae4ae1>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26605: Correctly URI-encode query string in call number browse plugin <[…]adab287cd82effbf1>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26583: Remove unneccessary code in AddIssue <[…]45ef49d702a3fbfc5>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22806: (QA follow-up) <[…]cc7fb474016e8df61>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26487: Add all MARC flavours for not-onloan-count search field <[…]31160b643909cd110>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22806: Unit Tests <[…]f8350bdfb1f534a80>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22806: (follow-up) CanBookBeReserved and CanItemBeReserved must check AllowHoldsO... <[…]cf1c2734f580ac7a2>
10:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22806: CanBookBeReserved and CanItemBeReserved must check AllowHoldsOnPatronsPoss... <[…]a83c18db46e637b5a>
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10:12 cait loves that 'sound' of patches being pushed...
10:27 cait hm i believe we might have a rogue test again creating libraries and categories
10:30 ashimema ..
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11:01 ashimema whilst working on documenting point of sale, cashup and cash registers more formally..
11:01 ashimema I'm feeling like we need a more consistent path to the module
11:01 ashimema module components
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11:16 cait ashimema: talking about that... you could qa my patch for fixing permissions :)
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11:17 ashimema bug?
11:17 wahanui bug is, like, that perl code is not activ since its not in PER5LIB
11:17 cait bug 26721 - it means the links are not visible if you are not superlibrarian
11:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26721 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Debit and credit type pages should check for the specific permission
11:18 ashimema ack.. I thought I'd fixed all the permissions issues around CM
11:19 ashimema yup.. that certainly looks right now
11:19 ashimema will QA
11:19 cait well the links are, but you can't get onto the page
11:19 ashimema indeed
11:20 cait I thought it fit the topc of your work today (and I  can get one of my patches out of queue :D)
11:20 ashimema random question.. do you have two distinct words for user accounts vs money accounts?
11:20 ashimema I keep butting up against it recently..
11:21 ashimema 'Accounts' is such a 'englishism' that can mean things very differently depending on context
11:22 kohaputti cait, I know string freeze for 20.11 is next week, but if we wanna do the translations now for 20.05 they still get used as base for 20.11? The maintance release for 20.05 was just a while ago so there is probably not gonna be a next one before the 20.11 string freeze
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11:33 oleonard Hi all
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12:13 tcohen morning
12:13 tcohen hola cait ashimema Joubu
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12:27 cait kohaputti: as long as you don't see the 20.11 project it shoudl be save to keep translating 20.05, but you can also email Bernardo if you want to make sure
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12:28 kohaputti cait, so the translation project is somehow copied in pootle?
12:28 kohaputti like the translations won't be imported from the 20.05 maintanance branch
12:30 cait no
12:30 cait the files are maintained in pootle and then pulled from there into the koha for releaeses
12:31 kohaputti cait, but what data is used as the basis for 20.11?
12:31 cait so pootle (or more the koha git repository of the translation manager) are the master
12:31 cait to my knowledge the latest 20.05 files in pootle
12:31 kohaputti ok, great!
12:31 cait but you might want to ask Bernardo
12:31 kohaputti I trust you :)
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12:32 cait ohoh
12:37 Joubu kohaputti, cait: I am in touch with Bernardo, I will ask him to create the 20.11 project
12:37 kohaputti thanks
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12:46 tuxayo hi #koha o/
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12:48 oleonard Hi tuxayo
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26581: (follow-up) Skip merge when deleting authority <[…]e03c9afd70e5b838a>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26781: (follow-up) Adjust tests as fields are no longer completely removed <[…]ff963beba28f35c80>
12:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22806: Remove perlcritic errors <[…]487b4be37978a6d20>
12:52 magnuse oops, doing e.g. "man koha-rebuild-zebra" looks all wrong on 20.05. anyone else see that?
12:57 tuxayo > ooh, 11 years since i got my first patch into koha :-)
12:57 tuxayo happy koha-birthday magnuse !
12:57 magnuse thanks!
12:57 tuxayo confetti!
12:57 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:57 magnuse hehe
12:58 oleonard Oh yeah, my koha-birthday was just a couple days ago! Yay me! :D
12:59 oleonard If my first commit were a US citizen it would be almost old enough to vote
12:59 magnuse congrats oleonard! bet yours was a bit further back than mine :-)
12:59 magnuse ooh, wonder what it would vote ;-)
13:00 tuxayo confetti! for oleonard !
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13:00 tuxayo :(
13:00 tuxayo confetti!
13:00 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
13:02 tuxayo oleonard: while testing bug 19532, after «2. Run database updates, update schema files and confirm everything applies cleanly»
13:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha
13:02 tuxayo Do you remember having changes on schema files?
13:03 oleonard I think I do... I can't remember what I did about it...
13:05 tuxayo oleonard: odd, I didn't have, "update schema files" => run dbic right?
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13:32 matts khall, around ?
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13:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:40 wahanui Congratulations!
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13:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:54 wahanui Congratulations!
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13:59 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:59 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:09 khall matts what's up?
14:09 matts hi khall !
14:12 cait :)
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14:22 enkidu Hi all!
14:23 enkidu Does anyone face with such an error: Software error: Syck parser (line 221, column 11): syntax error at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.24/YAML/ line 75.
14:23 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:23 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:23 kohaputti enkidu, more context would be helpful in resolving the error
14:23 Joubu enkidu: yaml syntax error in one of your syspref?
14:24 enkidu I'm just trying to change autobarcode system  parameter
14:24 enkidu just trying to increase one by one branchcode + 00001 for example.
14:27 enkidu I've changes under /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/cataloguing/value_builder
14:28 enkidu add this one to :
14:28 enkidu elsif ($autoBarcodeType eq 'devinim') {
14:28 enkidu ($nextnum, $scr) = C4::Barcodes::ValueBuilder::d​evinim::get_barcode(\%args);
14:28 enkidu }
14:29 enkidu also changed ./lib/C4/Barcodes/
14:29 enkidu and intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/mo​dules/admin/preferences/cataloguing.pref
14:30 Joubu the problem is in the .pref
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14:30 Joubu make sure you have the correct indentation
14:31 caroline good morning everyone! I hope monday has been good to you so far
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14:32 enkidu Joubu, we have just added
14:32 enkidu devinim: <branchcode>00001 seklinde artan
14:33 enkidu to the cataloguing.pref
14:33 enkidu - Barcodes are
14:33 enkidu - pref: autoBarcode
14:33 enkidu choices:
14:33 enkidu incremental: generated in the form 1, 2, 3.
14:33 enkidu annual: generated in the form <year>-0001, <year>-0002.
14:33 enkidu hbyymmincr: generated in the form <branchcode>yymm0001.
14:33 enkidu EAN13: incremental EAN-13 barcodes
14:33 enkidu "OFF": not generated automatically.
14:33 enkidu devinim: <branchcode>00001 seklinde artan
14:35 Joubu no tab?
14:36 Joubu double check line 221
14:36 enkidu there were tabs but I've deleted now
14:38 Joubu restart memcached
14:40 ashimema morning caroline
14:41 enkidu Same unfortunately Joubu
14:41 ashimema I had a go at documenting cashup as requested caroline.. hopefully you'll see it in your merge requests later
14:42 Joubu enkidu: copy the content of your .pref file in a yml validator
14:42 caroline ashimema: thanks so much!
14:42 Joubu it will tell you where the syntax error is coming from
14:42 caroline I'll look into documenting better how to add images
14:42 ashimema hopefully it makes sense.. it's been a while since I did a docs merge request :S
14:43 ashimema also.. didn't I have a task to do after the last docs meeting?
14:43 ashimema I haven't missed a chat with you I was meant to have have I?
14:44 caroline oh yeah, we were supposed to talk about how to include docs in the dev process on bugzilla
14:45 ashimema ah yes
14:45 ashimema well.. if you fancy having that chat some time I'm open to it :)
14:45 caroline ok! I haven't put my thoughts in order about that anyway
14:45 enkidu Joubu++ Thanks a lot,
14:46 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:46 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:46 enkidu It is just because of tab/indendation problem
14:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:49 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:58 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26592: (follow-up) fix typo <[…]de5fd76e3b5560e93>
14:58 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26592: Prevent XSS vulnerabilities when circ/ is used <[…]7e540f7ede70382b1>
14:58 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26639: Add auto_savepoint to DBIC connection <[…]ea9fc2f930ff5bf3f>
14:58 Joubu yeah, fingers crossed!
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15:12 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:16 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:16 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:17 liliputech_asu hi koha :)
15:31 caroline hi liliputech_asu!
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15:55 henryb Hi everyone. Can anyone move the time of the dev meeting this Wednesday? I think it clashes with the general meeting.
15:56 henryb Both are scheduled for 20:00 UTC
15:56 cait typical us :)
15:56 cait Joubu: maybe you could?
15:56 cait oleonard: the locked one was ok?
15:56 caroline oh, that's probably my fault
15:56 oleonard cait, Yes I liked your follow-up
15:56 caroline I postponed the last dev meeting because everyone forgot
15:57 caroline and I probably didn't check when the others were
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15:58 henryb Caroline: It's not your fault :)
15:59 henryb caroline even? do capitals matter in IRC?
15:59 caroline I don't think so, I got both message :D
16:00 * cait feels like this was the best thing today
16:00 oleonard Thanks for catching the mixup HeNrYb
16:00 cait ^ole
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16:01 cait hm I am messing thigns up... /me goes back to mess other stuff up
16:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:02 wahanui Congratulations!
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17:33 tuxayo Does anyone know how to migrate old code that used Issuingrules which has been integrated to CirculationRules? Unfortunately, it's not straightforward.
17:33 tuxayo It's about the code between lines 85 and 96 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]95445&action=diff
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17:43 kidclamp tuxayo: Koha::CirculationRules->set_rules({ branchcode => *, categorycode => *,  itemtype=>*, rules => [{ rule_name => reservesallowed, rule_value => 1},{rule_name=>hols_per_record,rule_value=>1}]});
17:43 kidclamp something like that, but valid, and neater
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17:45 pastebot "kidclamp" at pasted "Set circ rules" (10 lines) at
17:53 tuxayo kidclamp++ thanks, I'll try that! :)
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18:33 oleonard cait, I'm tinkering with Bug 24363
18:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24363 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Datepicker calendar is not always sexy
18:33 oleonard No not that one
18:33 oleonard Bug 26148
18:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26148 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OpenLibrary "Preview" link target is unclear to patrons
18:33 oleonard
18:34 cait you scared me :)
18:34 oleonard I'm trying to make the link more consistent
18:34 cait looks nice :)
18:34 cait do you have a before maybe?
18:35 oleonard
18:36 oleonard I can make the "read now" link open in a new window but I'm sure if its necessary to indicate to the user that it will
18:41 oleonard Or, we could not use the Open Library image at all and make it a text link with an icon...
18:45 cait i think a good rule for external links is to always open them in a new window
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18:45 cait at least that's what I have been taught :)
18:45 oleonard
18:45 cait because we leave Koha and go to a different server
18:45 oleonard Not as eye-catching
18:46 cait the icon quality could be a little bit better
18:46 cait not your fault, they should have an svg or so
18:46 cait "Jetzt lesen" or "Lesen Sie jetzt" in German oi.
18:46 cait english is nicer often
18:47 cait i think using the open library icon is definitely better
18:47 cait brb
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18:52 cait back
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20:40 oleonard davidnind++
20:48 cait davidnind++ oleonard++
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21:10 aleisha hello
21:10 wahanui que tal, aleisha
21:10 oleonard Hi aleisha
21:13 * cait waves
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21:26 ila_ron hi
21:27 ila_ron how to export /import borrowing history from koha?
21:28 cait ashimema++
21:28 caroline ila_ron: you'd have to import it in the database in old_issues
21:28 cait ila_ron: what is your use case?
21:28 cait and statistics maybe too, but I think old_issues is more often used
21:29 caroline I haven't imported borrowing history often, but the couple of times I've done it, it was through old_issues... For my clients, it was mostly so that the patrons could still have the list of what they had borrowed, not necessarily to have the stats
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21:38 cait caroline: we have done both -  but I am not sure i remember why statistics entries were needed too
21:38 cait maybe just reports
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21:54 cait oleonard: is the text part of the image for the open library patch?
21:54 ila_ron Ok thanks i'm new to koha btw.
21:57 ila_ron is koha old part of koha?
21:57 ila_ron a function?
21:58 caroline It's a table in the database http://schema.koha-community.o[…]s/old_issues.html
21:59 ila_ron ah ok
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22:06 ila_ron so i can just export old_issues and then import it to my other koha db right?
22:14 caroline yes that should be ok if you're moving from an old Koha to a new koha
22:17 cait hm it depends how you added your items and records...
22:17 cait do they still all have the same internal numbers?
22:17 caroline I would trust cait then
22:18 cait ila_ron: can you tell us a bit more about what you are trying to do and why you need to move the issue history from one Koha to another?
22:23 cait if you are trying to rstore from backup it's probably ok
22:26 ila_ron thanks i'll try restore and hope it will work.
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