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Nick |
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| 00:00 |
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davidnind |
I have no slides... and I'm going to tempt the demo gods by doing some live editing (if I have time)... |
| 00:00 |
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dcook |
You can do it davidnind! |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
I have a friend who did a 2 minute lightning talk where she live coded a Python program which wrote, compiled, and ran a C++ program without any errors. I think she almost got a standing ovation heh |
| 00:01 |
|
dcook |
So you can do it :D |
| 00:01 |
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marie-luce |
demo are the best presentation! |
| 00:02 |
|
dcook |
Maybe I could do a demo in the future... |
| 00:02 |
|
* dcook |
never knows what to talk about at Kohacon |
| 00:03 |
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cait |
davidnind: you already won the audience over with your 2! previous talks so I think you will be fine :) |
| 00:03 |
|
oleonard |
davidnind++ |
| 00:04 |
|
marie-luce |
davidnind++ |
| 00:04 |
|
oleonard |
I'm thinking that next year it will have been 12 years since my OPAC customization talk, maybe it's time to bring it back ;) |
| 00:05 |
|
oleonard |
In fact I can probably just re-use the old talk... Nothing much has changed has it? |
| 00:05 |
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cait |
oleonard: definitely :) |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:05 |
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cait |
heh |
| 00:07 |
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| 00:10 |
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davidnind |
**blushes** |
| 00:11 |
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davidnind |
oleonard++ |
| 00:12 |
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tuxayo |
«dcook never knows what to talk about at Kohacon» You have a lot to talk about your very diverse Koha installations! |
| 00:13 |
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tuxayo |
That could help a lot people who can't use Debian or Ubuntu. |
| 00:13 |
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tuxayo |
And also the general challenges and possible strategies around that. (distro packages, cpan, carton, etc) |
| 00:13 |
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dcook |
Hmm that's a good point |
| 00:14 |
|
dcook |
Cheers tuxayo :) |
| 00:14 |
|
dcook |
Even if we are moving to just Debian/Ubuntu heh |
| 00:14 |
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tuxayo |
\o dcook |
| 00:15 |
|
dcook |
Maybe something about background tasks and schedulers at some point down the road too.. |
| 00:15 |
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| 00:15 |
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tuxayo |
yes! |
| 00:27 |
|
cait |
I was wondering if we should have a virtual hackfest maybe ... as it looks like marseille next year is not going to happen as well |
| 00:27 |
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cait |
or at least unlikely considering the current situation |
| 00:36 |
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| 00:40 |
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| 00:42 |
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caroline |
I'm having trouble with my sphinx again... |
| 00:43 |
|
caroline |
I'm trying to install sphinxcontrib-spelling, which requires PyEnchant |
| 00:43 |
|
caroline |
So I try to install PyEnchant, and it installs version 2.0.0, but sphinxcontrib-spelling requires version 3.1.1 (from what I understand of the error messages) |
| 00:44 |
|
caroline |
is there a way to force it to update& |
| 00:44 |
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caroline |
I tried pip update PyEnchant, but it says update doesn't exist |
| 00:44 |
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caroline |
"upgrade" doesn't work either |
| 00:46 |
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koha-jenkins |
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| 00:48 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 00:48 |
|
wahanui |
Congratulations! |
| 00:48 |
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koha-jenkins |
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| 00:55 |
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davidnind |
caroline: I think it has to do with the version of Python - Unbuntu 18.04 has version 2 and 3 installed, find the package name for spelling with the 3 in it (I think - it was a while ago) |
| 00:55 |
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caroline |
Yeah I was just looking at my python version |
| 00:56 |
|
caroline |
I tried sudo apt-get install python 3.8 but there are soooooo many missing dependencies |
| 00:56 |
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caroline |
I'm not going to manually install each of those, it's crazy |
| 00:56 |
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| 00:58 |
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caroline |
Is there a way to skip the spell checking when I want to "make"? I just want to see if I'm able to add alt text to images |
| 00:59 |
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| 01:16 |
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caroline |
ok commented the spelling sections in source/conf.py and it now works! :D |
| 01:19 |
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| 01:19 |
|
dcook |
Interesting info on Wikidata: https://www.quora.com/Does-wik[…]datastore-is-used |
| 01:20 |
|
dcook |
As the years go by, it seems to me that triplestores are used the same way as a search engine like Solr/Elasticsearch |
| 01:20 |
|
dcook |
Store the actual data as a blob in an SQL database, and then just "index" that in the triplestore... |
| 01:22 |
|
caroline |
I guess that can all be linked to open data (like govt data)? |
| 01:23 |
|
caroline |
dcook: linked data would be an interesting conference talk :) |
| 01:24 |
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| 01:24 |
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caroline |
what is it, what does it eat in winter? how it is used in ILSs, how it is used in Koha (if at all) |
| 01:24 |
|
dcook |
Yeah that's the stuff bit heh |
| 01:24 |
|
dcook |
We need to work out how to use it in Koha first |
| 01:24 |
|
dcook |
Although as time goes on, I get a better idea of what it should look like |
| 01:25 |
|
* oleonard |
reads the scrollback to learn that caroline is having trouble with sphinxes and pythons, oh my! |
| 01:25 |
|
dcook |
heh |
| 01:25 |
|
caroline |
yeah, sorry for spamming... |
| 01:25 |
|
oleonard |
It's not spam, I love hearing about your menagerie |
| 01:25 |
|
caroline |
I'm actually in the Tri-Wizard tournament at the moment, trying to stun all those creatures... |
| 01:25 |
|
dcook |
I have been trying to drum up interest in non-library open gov data |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
So now I'm actually thinking how we could output that as RDF.. |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
The thing about WikiData is that it has critical mass |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
It has lots of useful information |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
But I'm not sure how a library would necessarily have very useful machine readable data |
| 01:26 |
|
dcook |
(Other than in terms of copy cataloguing) |
| 01:27 |
|
dcook |
Maybe if a central library/union catalogue used OAI-PMH or something to get RDF from member libraries |
| 01:27 |
|
dcook |
Although they'd have to use compatible schemas still.. |
| 01:28 |
|
caroline |
What I'd love to see is links to author bios in OPACs and such things |
| 01:28 |
|
dcook |
Thinking back to davidnind's example, maybe it could be useful for visualization collections too.. |
| 01:28 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, authority data is an interesting example |
| 01:28 |
|
caroline |
vizualization++ |
| 01:29 |
|
marie-luce |
that would be fantastic |
| 01:29 |
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| 01:29 |
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dcook |
So here's the RDF for a Mark Twain VIAF record: https://viaf.org/viaf/138978451/rdf.xml |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
So apparently wikidata pages are stored as "pages" in mediawiki.. |
| 01:30 |
|
dcook |
Maybe "Koha" pages would be useful.. |
| 01:31 |
|
caroline |
davidnind++ |
| 01:31 |
|
caroline |
that was awesome |
| 01:31 |
|
dcook |
davidnind++ |
| 01:31 |
|
lisettelatah |
davidnind++ |
| 01:31 |
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marie-luce |
davidnind++ |
| 01:31 |
|
oleonard |
Well done davidnind! |
| 01:31 |
|
marie-luce |
awesome presentation! |
| 01:31 |
|
cait |
well done :) |
| 01:33 |
|
davidnind |
thanks! |
| 01:34 |
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| 01:36 |
|
dcook |
Very inspiring davidnind :) |
| 01:37 |
|
mtj |
hi dcook, i sent a patch for your rabbitmq bug |
| 01:37 |
|
dcook |
Oh cool. I'll take a peek |
| 01:37 |
|
mtj |
...i had it done last week |
| 01:38 |
|
dcook |
heh |
| 01:39 |
|
mtj |
also, i really wish our debian scripts were using systemd |
| 01:39 |
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| 01:39 |
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dcook |
:3 |
| 01:39 |
|
dcook |
Me too |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
#goals |
| 01:41 |
|
mtj |
if [ $(systemctl is-enabled rabbitmq-server) = 'enabled' ]; then |
| 01:41 |
|
mtj |
..versus.. |
| 01:41 |
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mtj |
if dpkg-query -W -f='${db:Status-Abbrev}' rabbitmq-server | grep -q ^.i ; then |
| 01:42 |
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mtj |
hmm, even easier... |
| 01:42 |
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mtj |
if [ systemctl is-enabled rabbitmq-server ]; then |
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marie-luce |
for people who aren't in Wellington tomorrow for the cultural day, is there a workshop or any other thing plan to get social? |
| 01:44 |
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| 01:45 |
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dcook |
mtj: I hear you |
| 01:45 |
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cait |
marie-luce: haven't seen anything yet, but i guess we could always make up something |
| 01:47 |
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dcook |
bug 10787 |
| 01:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Linked Data/RDF Omnibus |
| 01:47 |
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dcook |
Added some more info about directions we might want to take in terms of backend tech.. |
| 01:48 |
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dcook |
I have other priorities (personal and commercial), but it's interesting... |
| 01:49 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 01:54 |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
| 01:54 |
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| 02:00 |
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mtj |
hi tcohen, could you kick jenkins 2 and 4 pls... some problem with 'git fetch' |
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oleonard |
jzairo++ |
| 02:18 |
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oleonard |
kellym++ |
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irma |
hi |
| 02:25 |
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caroline |
hi irma! |
| 02:26 |
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cait |
hallo :) |
| 02:26 |
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oleonard |
Hi irma :) |
| 02:27 |
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marie-luce |
hi irma |
| 02:28 |
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irma |
hi caroline, we're on holiday in western New South Wales, have stopped in a town called Coonamble . Having a picnic lunch in a park and connecting to kohacon - technology! |
| 02:29 |
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irma |
hi oleanard, marie-luce |
| 02:29 |
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caroline |
I thought I understood you were traveling, but it's nice that you popped in to say hi! :D |
| 02:30 |
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marie-luce |
nice spot to watch KohaCon |
| 02:30 |
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cait1 |
nightly reconnect oops |
| 02:30 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 02:30 |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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davidnind |
break time, back in 20 minutes...#Kohacon20 |
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davidnind |
we're back - the Koha Awards ceremony is beginning... |
| 02:56 |
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irma |
+++ |
| 02:57 |
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oleonard |
You can't tell but I'm wearing my tuxedo for the occasion |
| 02:58 |
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irma |
++++ :-) |
| 02:58 |
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davidnind |
cait1++ |
| 02:58 |
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oleonard |
cait1++ |
| 02:59 |
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marie-luce |
congrats cait1++ |
| 02:59 |
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oleonard |
davidnind++ :) |
| 02:59 |
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lisettelatah |
davidnind++ |
| 02:59 |
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marie-luce |
davidnind++ |
| 03:00 |
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lisettelatah |
cait1++ |
| 03:00 |
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irma |
+++ :-) |
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marie-luce |
joubu++ |
| 03:03 |
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irma |
+++ :-) |
| 03:03 |
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lisettelatah |
Joubu++ |
| 03:03 |
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alexbuckley |
joubu++ |
| 03:03 |
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oleonard |
Joubu++ |
| 03:05 |
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irma |
+++ :-) |
| 03:05 |
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oleonard |
ashimema++ |
| 03:06 |
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lisettelatah |
ashimema++ |
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alexbuckley |
ashimema++ |
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oleonard |
paul_p++ |
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lisettelatah |
paul_p++ |
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irma |
+++ |
| 03:13 |
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irma |
+++++ :-) |
| 03:16 |
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irma |
++++ thank You !!! |
| 03:19 |
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oleonard |
irma++ |
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lisettelatah |
irma++ |
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alexbuckley |
irma++ |
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caroline |
Congrats irma! <3 |
| 03:20 |
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marie-luce |
irma++ |
| 03:20 |
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irma |
we love it THank you |
| 03:20 |
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thd |
Where would Koha be if HLT had not had a year 2000 problem? |
| 03:21 |
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dcook |
Oh wow I'm floored |
| 03:21 |
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dcook |
Congrats Bob and Irma (also on retirement) |
| 03:22 |
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irma |
:-) |
| 03:22 |
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marie-luce |
great job all! |
| 03:24 |
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davidnind |
irma++ |
| 03:24 |
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davidnind |
bob++ |
| 03:28 |
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irma |
very nice, congratulations all the other winners |
| 03:29 |
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irma |
So we'll get back on the road to the next town |
| 03:29 |
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davidnind |
it was great that you could pop in irma! |
| 03:29 |
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irma |
best wishes everyone for the end of the conference and the hackfest |
| 03:29 |
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cait1 |
have a great vacation irma and bob and congratulatoins :) |
| 03:29 |
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irma |
bye for now |
| 03:29 |
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marie-luce |
have a lovely trip! |
| 03:30 |
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irma |
thanks all :) |
| 03:32 |
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georgewilliams |
congratulations to bob and irma |
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oleonard |
'night everybody |
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caroline |
ends are sad! |
| 03:44 |
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caroline |
good night all! talk tomorrow! |
| 03:45 |
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carlos |
thanks everyone - great to be part of this from still-secluded Melbourne! |
| 03:46 |
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marie-luce |
thank you all, it was lovely to watch from Montreal |
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dcook |
Oh now I'm watching replays |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
I do love Sonia's video! |
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* dcook |
is trying to work on his Joubu pronunciation |
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dcook |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]re=youtu.be&t=805 |
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dcook |
Heh |
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dcook |
Where was this in French class... |
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dcook |
Just realized that everyone is off to sleep but me heh |
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marie-luce |
I'm still here, but not for long! |
| 04:16 |
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marie-luce |
let me know tomorrow how you french class went! |
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cait1 |
i am still here but i shouldn#t be :) |
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marie-luce |
:) |
| 04:33 |
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marie-luce |
goodnight! |
| 04:33 |
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marie-luce |
or have a good day :) |
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cait1 |
bye all |
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smon |
hi |
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wahanui |
hola, smon |
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severine_q |
morning #koha ! |
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dcook |
morning severine :) |
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smon |
i got another switching-to-elasticsearch question for you ;) |
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severine_q |
hi dcook !! |
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severine_q |
what a lucky day with elasticsearch question so early in the morning :p |
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smon |
in our marc view, we used this query structure to search for child records: q=rcn:<parent system number>+and(bib-level:a+or+bib-level:b+or+bib-level:m+or+bib-level:s) |
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smon |
but this does not seem to work anymore |
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smon |
there is a host-item field defined for biblios |
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smon |
but https://(...)/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=host-item:<system number> has zero results |
| 06:10 |
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smon |
ah |
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smon |
because it indexes the main heading |
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smon |
not the id |
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smon |
there is host-item-number, which indexes 773$9, so you could add the parents biblionumber in $9? we use system numbers instead $w |
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smon |
i changed the field definition from $9 to $w, i hope that does not break anything |
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smon |
is the UseControlNumber systemparameter zebra specific? or does it also apply to elasticsearch? |
| 06:21 |
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smon |
ah |
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smon |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26313 |
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huginn |
Bug 26313: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to oldstable , "Show analytics" and "Show volumes" links don't work with Elasticsearch and UseControlNumber |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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wahanui |
bonjour, alex_a |
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severine_q |
smon, that an interesting patch ! we don't use for now host-items so we didn't experiment these problems, but knowing it's fixed can be a good reason to try this feature :) |
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TimothyAlexis |
We found the problem which was a typo after a merge. prority => $holdpriority, |
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nlegrand |
Bonmatin |
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severine_q |
oyo nlegrand :) |
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nlegrand |
salut severine_q ! |
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ashimema |
morning |
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nlegrand |
morning ashimema |
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ashimema |
nice to see you again nlegrand.. it's been a while |
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ashimema |
hope your keeping well |
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magnuse |
hooray for the kohacon awards! |
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* ashimema |
is in catch up mode.. watching Julias's accessability keynote.. it's awesome |
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ashimema |
how is your Desks work going nlegrand? |
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ashimema |
I see you just rebased it |
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nlegrand |
ashimema: I've been in a tunnel doing unpleasant things... |
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ashimema |
aw.. hpoe you've reached the light at the end now :) |
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nlegrand |
ashimema: yes, I have to fix it soon and now I have time for it... |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
lots of people to test it over the next few days I reckon.. so not bad timing :) |
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nlegrand |
:) |
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ashimema |
It will be awesome to see it in 20.11 |
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ashimema |
we're so close now to having a really fully functional feature with it |
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nlegrand |
sure |
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ashimema |
it's hard splitting these things up.. but it does make testing that bit easier.. |
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ashimema |
I've had similar fun with the cash management/point of sale work I've done.. it's taken 5 releases or so to get it all in.. and it's still being refined now :) |
| 07:49 |
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nlegrand |
yes specially with the part touching easy modules like circulation |
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ashimema |
"easy" module.. |
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ashimema |
lol |
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nlegrand |
^^ |
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nlegrand |
ho money and dates are the worst parts of a software. |
| 07:50 |
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ashimema |
must admit, whenever I dig into circulation functions.. and I do more often than I'd like to admit.. it scares me... there's so many moving parts there |
| 07:51 |
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ashimema |
haha.. totally |
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nlegrand |
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]dia/Fichier:Jenga.gif -> when I touch something in return.pl |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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magnuse |
if a loan is set to auto renew, there is no to let the patron renew it from the opac, right? |
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ashimema |
erm.. I'm sure there's been recent bugs to allow early renewal actually |
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ashimema |
can't fully remember |
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ashimema |
but there is a strong use case for allowing it. |
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ashimema |
yeay cait, you well and truly deserve your award :) |
| 09:28 |
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magnuse |
oh yes indeed! as did all the other winners |
| 09:28 |
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magnuse |
bug 21498 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21498 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Possibility to renew early when automatic renewals are enabled |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
I wish I'd set my alarm now so I could join the chat in congratulating these people |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
koha is awesome |
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ashimema |
ooh.. |
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magnuse |
bug 24476 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24476 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Allow patrons to opt-out of auto-renewal |
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ashimema |
I thought there was a bug that had got further than that |
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magnuse |
thanks! |
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ashimema |
I'm digging.. trying to find it |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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ashimema |
bug 26388 maybe.. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26388 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to oldstable , Renew all and Renew selected buttons should account for items that can't be renewed |
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ashimema |
no.. don't think it's that |
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severine_q |
ashimema : i'd like to train myself and propose a patch for bug 25700, but i've got some questions |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25700 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Recent Kohacons are missing from the timeline |
| 10:10 |
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severine_q |
do you have some time for me ? |
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severine_q |
or maybe someone else ? :) |
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ashimema |
fire away.. always happy to help :) |
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severine_q |
thanks !! |
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ashimema |
ooh.. |
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ashimema |
that one |
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wahanui |
that one is, like, running fine for me |
| 10:13 |
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severine_q |
when i edit the history.txt file, i can see number beggun the lines, where do they come from ? |
| 10:14 |
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ashimema |
it's an 'epoch' date |
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ashimema |
which is basically /seconds since 1970 |
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severine_q |
ok |
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ashimema |
https://www.epochconverter.com/ |
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ashimema |
got things like kohacon events you can use a website (like above) to manually grab a date |
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ashimema |
for the commit authors and things we grab it from the git logs |
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severine_q |
ok |
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ashimema |
interesting.. there's loads of Kohacon's missing from the timeline |
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severine_q |
so i'm supposed to modify the .txt file, adding new lines for each missing KohaCon and adding this epoch date |
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severine_q |
am I right ? |
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ashimema |
that would be perfect :) |
| 10:17 |
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severine_q |
great ! I'll try something and hope it'll be fine :) |
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severine_q |
#crossfingers |
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ashimema |
:D |
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ashimema |
It'll be great to have them on here |
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ashimema |
I feel the timeline has gotten a little out of hand.. it would be great to add filtering to it at some point.. or give it a more interactive visual display :) |
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ashimema |
I lvoe that we celebrate every new developer and ever release.. but you can end up not seeing the wood for the trees |
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eythian |
https://archive.org/details/marygrove "In October 2020, the collection of Detroit-based Marygrove College Library, comprising more than 70,000 books and journals, starts a new life online with the support of the Internet Archive." A short doco on the digitisation of a closing library. |
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ashimema |
very cool |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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ashimema |
when was the first kohacon? |
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ashimema |
2006 one in paris? |
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ashimema |
bug 22018 magnuse.. seems I was keen to add such functionality too.. but didn't find the moment to actually do it :( |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22018 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add an option to 'AllowEarlyRenewal' to enable users to renew before the autorenew date |
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kohaputti |
The state of Finnish translations is not that great currently in Koha 20.05, I'm thinking of asking lots people to help us get it in better condition but I don't know if we should start our efforts after the 20.11 string freeze (11th november) or whether it would be useful to start it already know. My question here is whether most of the 20.05 translated strings will be lost after the new string freeze and translations files are |
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kohaputti |
uploaded for 20.11. |
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ashimema |
were people still having issues this morning with sandboxes |
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ashimema |
struggling to replicate any issues that were reported last night |
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kidclamp |
ours still seem to be broken ashimema |
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ashimema |
interesting |
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nlegrand |
in hold.js, the line data += " " + __("at %s").format(oObj.waiting_at); gives me a Untranslatable string found (at %s) - See coding guideline JS5 |
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* ashimema |
runs up a bywater sandbox to to inspect the provision logs |
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nlegrand |
it puzzles me, because it comes straight from Bug 25321 and I don't see what's wrong regarding the guidlines |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Move translatable strings out of strings.inc into the corresponding JavaScript |
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nlegrand |
also I mimicked it for Bug 24412 as now it's a qa-tool error for me also :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Failed QA , Attach waiting hold to desk |
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nlegrand |
Is it some kind of false positive or did I miss something? |
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ashimema |
the only difference I know of locally is that we have a 2 minute wait during provisioning instead of 1 minute.. I think I added the extra minute because our server was very slow to get the container going on occasions and it fails spectacularly if the container isn't there when the next command runs. |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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ashimema |
that feels odd nlegrand |
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ashimema |
jajm around ? |
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ashimema |
I must admit.. I'm not yet close enough to fully interpret that error |
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ashimema |
kidclamp.. maybe try the hard core 'docker system prune -af' to fully cleanup all images etc.. we had loads of stuff hanging around this morning on our when I checked.. |
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ashimema |
then re-run the sandbox setup script |
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nlegrand |
ashimema: ho! It may be a tab problem!!! (I edited it with an editor not well configured) |
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kidclamp |
passing that to khall_ |
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nlegrand |
ho, no it wasn't... |
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TimothyAlexis |
fridolin here? |
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fridolin |
TimothyAlexis: yep |
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fridolin |
how are u today ? |
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TimothyAlexis |
Fine, thank you for asking. |
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TimothyAlexis |
:) |
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TimothyAlexis |
I'm thinking, when adding items using cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=<some numbe>, the new_status should be set. |
| 12:19 |
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TimothyAlexis |
and I'm wondering if it should. :) |
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fridolin |
TimothyAlexis: sure, a newly created item should have "is new" defined (1 for example) |
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fridolin |
you may use framework default value for this subfield |
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khall |
sandboxes appear to be working again! |
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nlegrand |
I fixed my problem by rebasing qa-tools to an up to date version. After one hour fiddling with old qa-tools code... |
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oleonard |
:( |
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ashimema |
oh noes.. |
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ashimema |
sorry nlegrand |
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ashimema |
khall++ |
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cait |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, cait |
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nlegrand |
the worse part, is me trying to fix qa-tools code before thinking maybe it's already been fixed ^^. I feel a bit... Well... |
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nlegrand |
bonjour cait! |
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cait |
hi nlegrand :) |
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kohaputti |
Very great talks in KohaCon this year, thanks to all the speakers and organizers :) |
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cait |
yes - very happy how it turned out with COVID and all |
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cait |
was fun watching |
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cait |
no i just need to figure out how to turn back from vampire to human |
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* oleonard |
buys a black velvet cape for cait for Christmas |
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cait |
oleonard: cape! |
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cait |
now that would be a reason to get permanently turned |
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nlegrand |
:D |
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cait |
with koha isignia on the back? |
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tuxayo |
The superlibrarian cape? |
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oleonard |
The superlibrarian cape is not goth enough for a vampire |
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cait |
yep |
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TimothyAlexis |
fridolin++ |
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cait |
oleonard: maybe a silver amulet with the K! ? |
| 12:59 |
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oleonard |
The safety of vampires around silver is somewhat in dispute I believe... Would hate to have that go wrong... |
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* magnuse |
sends ashimema some tuits for bug 22018 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22018 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add an option to 'AllowEarlyRenewal' to enable users to renew before the autorenew date |
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cait |
oleonard: i see... same goes for wooden things that have too sharp edges i guess |
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* oleonard |
confiscates cait's pencils |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
ok... black on black stitched koha logo on the cape? |
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oleonard |
Now we're talking |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
I am a new vampire... still learning |
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cait |
glad to have your guidance... and I guess we now finally solved the mystery of non-aging oleonard :) |
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* oleonard |
now REALLY wants a cape with black on black stitched Koha logo!! |
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cait |
yah *sigh* |
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oleonard |
The real mystery about vampires is where do they get their wardrobe budget |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
kohaputti: i just see your translation question in the logs -did you get an answer already? |
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kohaputti |
no answer yet |
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cait |
when you translate 20.05 and the exact same string is in 20.11 Pootle will suggest it |
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cait |
in that case it shows in light grey in the box and you can just submit after a quick check |
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kohaputti |
ok, so then I think best to wait for 20.11 string freeze to not have to do double work |
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cait |
AND if you have a lot of difference in already translated Bernardo has some magic scripts to update one transltion file from the other |
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cait |
ALSO as 20.11 files do not exist yet - you got on problem at all. the same strings will be moved |
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cait |
we only have to translate new and changed (they turn fuzzy for rechecking) thankfully |
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cait |
i am still struggling with the relator terms in the installer files... |
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kohaputti |
thanks for the info :) |
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cait |
the 20.11 files will be built from the 20.05 files |
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kohaputti |
still probably best to wait for 20.11 string freeze to not have to do the translations for removed or changed strings. |
| 13:26 |
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cait |
you could do that, or start with files that are not likely to change much |
| 13:26 |
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cait |
but if you don't want to use 20.05 waiting should be fine |
| 13:26 |
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kohaputti |
just one month so waiting is okay :) |
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cait |
i think he might make the files available a bit earlier |
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cait |
he ususally does for getting people started if they want |
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cait |
and then updates again on string freeze |
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kohaputti |
good to know :) |
| 13:29 |
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kohaputti |
with the two weeks that is between freeze and release it would require a massive amount of people working at the same time doing translations |
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cait |
and it's boring |
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kohaputti |
(since there is bunch of untranslated stuff in finnish) |
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cait |
you will also never be done with refining |
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cait |
we still spot typos and such that when you start fixing htem turn out ot have been there for like 10 versions :) |
| 13:34 |
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cait |
always happy to help with any translation questions |
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henryb |
This random quip on bugzilla really made me chuckle "How many QA testers does it take to change a lightbulb? --> QA testers don't change anything. They just report that it's dark." Well done, whoever said it! |
| 13:41 |
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* cait |
has no idea what this means: New budget-parent is beneath budget |
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cait |
heh |
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ashimema |
hehehe |
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ashimema |
that's brillaint henryb |
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henryb |
cait: have you worked out what it means? |
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cait |
no |
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cait |
i used the old translations... i think it probably never shows up |
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cait |
because it actualyl makes no sense |
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cait |
henryb: sometimes I have to admit to give up - was not in th emood to dig deep on that one |
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henryb |
Fair enough! I think that's very sensible |
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henryb |
I also have no idea what it means |
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ashimema |
did you have a think about an accessibility focused role for community henryb ? |
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ashimema |
I was talking about accessibility and how it's an ongoing challenge with Phil (Commons) earlier :) |
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ashimema |
it would be awesome to have you |
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cait |
could be a topic expert role too |
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cait |
if that feels a little easier |
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ashimema |
totally |
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cait |
but in general it's really nice to have you around :) |
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* oleonard |
tests to see if there is an expiration date for signoffs |
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cait |
huh? |
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oleonard |
Bug 12533 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12533 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Improve authority search result display |
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oleonard |
Failed QA since 2019-04-26 |
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ashimema |
yikes |
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ashimema |
:) |
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oleonard |
This is what comes from me looking at the list of bugs assigned to me |
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cait |
it's a good thing to do, but must be a little scary |
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henryb |
ashimema: yeah I'd love to do it, just trying to get internal support/permission at the moment |
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ashimema |
I should do that soon.. I bet I have hundreds in scary states |
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ashimema |
excellent :) |
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ashimema |
sell it as a protection on their investment ;) |
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cait |
personal development |
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cait |
hm professional development |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
khall_: do you have time to check the adult guarantors again? |
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cait |
bug 12446 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12446 new feature, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Enable an adult to have a guarantor |
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cait |
hi khall :) |
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tuxayo |
ouch the tests |
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severine_q |
need some help to commit my first patch by myself... |
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severine_q |
anyone interested ? |
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severine_q |
:) |
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tuxayo |
severine_q hi o/ |
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severine_q |
salut tuxayo !! |
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tuxayo |
severine_q, we can't try |
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severine_q |
can't ?! oh... |
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tuxayo |
*can |
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tuxayo |
terrible typo |
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tuxayo |
>_< |
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ashimema |
🦸 |
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severine_q |
and tadaa bug 25700 !! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25700 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Recent Kohacons are missing from the timeline |
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severine_q |
thanks tuxayo !! |
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tuxayo |
severine_q++ |
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cait |
missed khall |
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cait |
@later tell khall bug 11299 it was |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
severine_q: your first? |
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cait |
that#s about time! |
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tuxayo |
severine_q: thanks for maintaining that, and searching the websites! |
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cait |
severine_q: updated bug to make you assignee :) |
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cait |
congrats! |
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severine_q |
cait : well, it's the second actually, but this one was all by myself without nicolas by my side so i'm quite proud :) |
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cait |
be warned, it can get addictive :) |
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severine_q |
oh i believe you :) |
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severine_q |
i'd be happy to help for these kinds of minor fixes |
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severine_q |
if you find some, please send me so I can practice ! |
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cait |
of course :) |
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cait |
you might want to look at some of the bugs in NEW with keyword Academy |
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cait |
i filed some for changing link texts |
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cait |
better accessibility by nt making links read "here" :) |
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cait |
bug 26722 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26722 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , [Omnibus] Don't use "here" and similar as a link text |
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tuxayo |
cait++ |
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severine_q |
thanks cait for the tip ! |
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severine_q |
good bye #koha ! |
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good morning/afternoon/evening all! |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline |
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cait |
oleonard: how many more checkboxes do we have to fix? |
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cait |
hi caroline and hi oleonard too (belatedly) |
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cait: About a dozen pages I think |
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cait |
ok :) |
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