IRC log for #koha, 2020-09-01

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00:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #22: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]05_D9_MDB10.3/22/
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06:31 reiveune hello
06:38 magnuse bonjour
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07:07 alex_a Bonjour
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07:20 cait1 good morning #koha!
07:28 magnuse kia ora cait1
07:34 ashimema[m] Mornin' #koha
07:34 ashimema[m] wow.. lots happened last week whilst I was away... anything anyone wants to bring to me attention.. save me reading through the logs
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07:39 magnuse we rewrote everything in... lisp
07:48 Joubu ashimema[m]: welcome back :) Security releases have been rolled out yesterday, and some activities on bug 22417 and bug 20271 made them move a bit closer to the finish line. Nothing special apart from that :)
07:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22417 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Add a task queue
07:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables
07:49 ashimema[m] Thanks Joubu.. that's a helpful summary :)
07:49 ashimema[m] lots of catching up to do today at work, then it'll be community catchup next :)
07:49 * ashimema[m] is feeling refreshed
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08:57 cait1 welcome back ashimema[m] :)
08:57 cait1 ashimema[m]: and everything remaining in QA queue is for grabs :)
08:59 ashimema[m] random question
08:59 ashimema[m] opac payments..
08:59 ashimema[m] should we really set the manager_id == borrowernumber
08:59 ashimema[m] feels a bit odd
08:59 * ashimema[m] doesn't like Koha::Account::pay and should really get around to killing it with fire soon
09:12 * Joubu offers a box of matches to ashimema[m]
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09:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #68: ABORTED in 12 hr: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D10/68/
10:24 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19889: Add new attribute to the REST API definition <[…]7015a3cd0f28922c2>
10:24 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25504: Fix failing tests <[…]32fd321e58f39efae>
10:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #69: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D10/69/
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10:48 Null404 hello there
10:48 wahanui Greetings, programs!
10:49 Null404 In KOHA there is a raport " Items with no checkouts" - but it gives only 1000 books per library on list - there is any way to get full list ?
10:51 cait you could check the reports library for an alternative report
10:51 cait reports library?
10:51 cait hm i was hoping for help from the bot, sec
10:51 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]L_Reports_Library
10:52 oleonard Hi all
10:52 Null404 Yes cait - I'm looked there first
10:52 Null404 and I don't found that sql report
10:54 cait I cannot help write one from scratch right now, but i am sure libraries around have somethin like this
10:54 cait maybe try asking on the mailing list
10:54 Null404 okay I found a half-solution: "tems with no Circs in a specific timeframe"
10:54 cait oleonard++ thx for documenting how to do the title-string sort
10:57 oleonard Joubu: I think Bug 25242 should be reverted. Too many unwanted side-effects.
10:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom
10:58 cait I am sorry ashimema[m], but i feel the same, it needs a different approach
10:58 oleonard (side-effects which I should have seen during testing but overlooked)
10:58 cait oleonard: is he text running into other columns one?
10:59 cait i noticed on squashing the courses table
10:59 oleonard Yes
11:00 cait it doesn't appear to happen with all tables
11:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:05 wahanui Congratulations!
11:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1418: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1418/
11:09 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:09 wahanui Congratulations!
11:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #82: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/82/
11:11 Joubu ok oleonard
11:11 wahanui oleonard is, like, seeing some buggy stuff though
11:12 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:12 wahanui Congratulations!
11:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #882: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/882/
11:18 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:18 wahanui Congratulations!
11:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #62: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D10_Deps/62/
11:21 ashimema[m] OK.. I'll target the table directly then..
11:21 ashimema[m] unless someone beats me to it.
11:22 ashimema[m] still in catch up mode after the break
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11:42 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:42 wahanui Congratulations!
11:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #337: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/337/
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11:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:54 wahanui Congratulations!
11:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #75: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D11/75/
11:57 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:57 wahanui Congratulations!
11:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #54: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U16/54/
12:02 cait1 magnuse:: demo list on website updated - you are 20.05 now
12:04 tcohen morning
12:05 oleonard Hi tcohen
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12:08 magnuse cait++
12:08 magnuse cait1: yes, as of 4 hours ago :-)
12:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #399: STILL UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/399/
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12:33 tcohen kohaputti Joubu something you want to talk about that API bug?
12:33 kohaputti tcohen, no I'm done with the review, or... I ran the tests once and they succeeded but now I run again and it fails...
12:34 kohaputti I was about to send the SO'd patches but this happened :/
12:34 tcohen it's fine, paste the failure somewhere
12:35 kohaputti i have just debugged it for couple minutes so let me see if I can manage on my own
12:35 kohaputti and since it worked already once
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12:42 Ivan_ Hello. I found a bug and fixed it. Tell me how to add it to Bugzila? Thank.
12:42 Ivan_ I saw this command -> git bz attach xxxxx HEAD . But I don't undestand number XXXXX.
12:43 oleonard Ivan_ : Go to and register for an account
12:43 oleonard Then create a new bug which describes the problem
12:43 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:43 wahanui Congratulations!
12:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #375: FIXED in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/375/
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13:25 cait1 magnuse: i always check the list beginning of the month - happy coincidence :)
13:25 cait1 ... lucky
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13:39 cait2 kidclamp: thx for the analytics link fix, it hought it was something about the syntax as the searched worked individually
13:40 cait2 and for the a_t one too :) - i thin some others might also be wrong, will try to check
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13:49 fridolin Bug 26338 small but cool enhancement for plugins
13:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26338 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Show tool plugins run in tools home
13:49 * fridolin loves plugins
13:55 Ivan_ oleonard: Thanks
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14:05 huginn News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 25242: Improve column wrapping and overflow for tables" <[…]4d690dd21d84ac3dd>
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15:04 reiveune bye
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15:14 did sophie_m: bon la nuit etc. etc.. a demain
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15:28 caroline Hi all! I need to view an opac with elasticsearch. Anyone has one that they can share? (can be a sandbox, i don't really care)
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15:57 * oleonard grumble grumble basketgroups grumble
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16:48 ashimema[m] bug 25242 back to NSO
16:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom
16:49 ashimema[m] any other Chrome users here on Ubuntu found that chromes performance has degraded to the point of being unusable with the most recent update?
16:51 ashimema[m] I'm on 85.0.4183.83 as of this morning after it nagged me to upgrade (but required a full re-install to actually upgrade).. and now it's pretty much unusable.. very slow to switch tabs, very slow to load pages.. scrolling is laggy
16:51 ashimema[m] etc
16:51 * ashimema[m] has tried in incognito to kick out extensions but it's just as unusable there too
17:01 oleonard For what it's worth ashimema[m] I have the same version on Mac and haven't seen problems.
17:01 ashimema[m] ta
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18:04 oleonard We need to re-think having some JS in intranet-tmpl/js and some in intranet-tmpl/prog/js...
18:05 oleonard I would think anything in intranet-tmpl/js should not have any language strings in it, but this isn't the case.
18:07 cait hm
18:08 cait are they both parsed? i mean would it work?
18:08 oleonard The translation script doesn't process files in intranet-tmpl/js because it's outside the lang directory
18:09 cait the paths you gave are both
18:09 cait that's what confused me
18:09 oleonard Oh I'm the one who is confused
18:09 cait and i am not sure it's necessary that they be inside any longer
18:09 cait because I think that translation is on the fly
18:10 oleonard So the distinction is arbitrary...
18:10 cait at lest if my information is correct
18:17 ashimema[m] it depends on how they're translated.. if it at template level.. i.e compiled prior to runtime then it needs to be within /en I believe
18:17 oleonard So the question is why the translation script doesn't process JS in intranet-tmpl/js.
18:18 ashimema[m] but it's at runtime then it doesn't.
18:18 ashimema[m] I presume it doesn't need to
18:18 ashimema[m] are there template level ones in there?
18:18 ashimema[m] I would suggest only runtime ones should be in there
18:19 oleonard I don't understand the distinction
18:19 ashimema[m] having said that.. I think jajm wanted to convert all of them to runtime (to make things simpler) and he did some performance testing to prove it didn't have a huge impact
18:22 cait i thought the js files were already, only talking about those right now
18:22 cait we have 2 files that are using .mo i think
18:22 cait messages and messages-js?
18:23 cait and hte .mo ones are -  I think - runtime
18:23 ashimema[m] I think that's right cait.
18:23 ashimema[m] .mo is runtime
18:23 cait we schould have asked a few hours earlier
18:23 cait too late for jajm i think
18:24 cait so as we can do js on runtime... we could move them out of the language specific directories probably?
18:24 ashimema[m] if I'm honest.. I never fully understood how they worked prior to the runtime model ;)
18:24 cait they could not include any strings for translation
18:24 cait so basically... they did not? :)
18:25 ashimema[m] I thought we had variables or something..
18:27 ashimema[m] it's even more confusing as we also now have a mix of runtime and compile time in normal .tt too
18:30 ashimema[m] right
18:30 ashimema[m] so.. the 'old way' for JS
18:30 ashimema[m] you added a variable in the .tt side
18:31 cait yes
18:31 ashimema[m] so en/modules/ contains 'var MSG_YOUR_RATING = _("Your rating: %s, ");"
18:31 ashimema[m] that's translated at translation compile time right?
18:31 cait oleonard:  is changing all tohse
18:31 cait oleonard++
18:32 ashimema[m] so when you run `translate install fr-FR` or whatever it is..
18:32 cait i think we need to discuss tomorrow how we can encourage more sign-offs... to finish this and other projects
18:33 ashimema[m] we spit out a new /fr-FR/modules/ that contains `var MSG_YOUR_RATING = _("Votre note, %s, ");`
18:33 cait yes, but the js is unchanged
18:33 ashimema[m] i.e it's 'pre-translated' in the template and nothing is changed in the JS at all.. we just 'refer' to the variable that's been translated in the template
18:34 ashimema[m] where as.. the .mo stuff works at run-time
18:34 * cait feels like we might have scared oleonard away
18:34 ashimema[m] so..
18:40 ashimema[m] hmm
18:41 ashimema[m] the bit I don't entirely follow is how the .mo is created and when
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18:42 ashimema[m] aha..
18:42 ashimema[m] so that's also done by translate install..
18:43 ashimema[m] only I think it creates a single .mo file which is loaded alongside page load and then the js library grabs the data from there at runtime
18:43 ashimema[m] so actually.. they're not that different
18:46 ashimema[m] ps.. I'd appreciate it if someone would take a look at the updated version of bug 25242
18:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom
18:46 * ashimema[m] goes shopping.
18:53 oleonard Sorry, tech support for my kids doing online school has me bouncing around
19:08 tuxayo @later tell lukeG1 Can you forward me the email that Jonathan sent today About the state of the branches?
19:08 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
19:08 tuxayo @later tell lukeG1 Somehow while moving it to the right email directory, I made it complete disappear, not even in the trash :(
19:08 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
19:13 cait oleonard: ah you had me owrried :)
19:16 cait kidclamp: around?
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19:21 kidclamp In low orbit
19:21 oleonard Fast and hot
19:21 kidclamp Yes, just finished a run. Well, hot at least, not so fast
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19:27 cait kidclamp: what did you want me to run for elasticsearch on my devbox?
19:31 kidclamp Umm, to check the version?
19:31 kidclamp Curl localhost:9200
19:33 kidclamp I have intermittently recreated your error, but haven't figured out what triggers it yet
19:37 cait kidclamp: how do we use NOT with elastic?
19:39 jajm ashimema[m], cait, oleonard, i'm here but not for long, how can i help about the translations ?
19:39 cait the js strings are done on runtime, right?
19:39 oleonard jajm do you know if there is a reason why we don't process JS in intranet-tmpl/js ?
19:39 cait ah, yep that :)
19:40 cait kidclamp:
19:40 jajm oleonard, i think i didn't take that path into account because there wasn't any translatable string in it ? (not sure...)
19:41 jajm cait, js strings wrapped inside __*() are translated at runtime yes
19:41 oleonard jajm I'm not sure whether we want to change that or whether we should move the js out of that directory which contains translatable strings.
19:41 jajm translations are stored inside a JS file generated at './translate instal' time from messages-js.po
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19:44 jajm oleonard, i think there is no need to move the strings out of the directory, we just need to add this path to the list of paths to check for JS strings
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19:48 cait JS file != .mo?
19:51 cait kidclamp: can you see why this would work with zebra but not elastic? rcn:11388674 AND (bib-level:a OR bib-level:b)'
19:51 jajm cait, the .mo file is a compiled version of xx-XX-messages.po, which contain only the strings for Perl files and TT files. JS strings are stored in messages-js.po and it get "compiled" into a JS file so the browser can fetch it and use it
19:51 cait ah so a different mechanism still relying on a copied file
19:51 jajm yes
19:53 cait thx for clearing that up
19:53 cait kidclamp: nm - index was nt up to date
20:01 kidclamp Cool, not around now ;-)
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21:48 tuxayo aleisha around?
21:48 aleisha yes hey tuxayo
21:49 tuxayo o/
21:49 tuxayo By any change, do you happen to have the email that Jonathan sent to the RMaints in the last 15 hours?
21:49 tuxayo Somehow while moving it to the right email directory, I made it complete disappear, not even in the trash :(
21:50 aleisha yup! will forward to you :)
21:50 tuxayo thaaaaanks :D
21:50 aleisha you're welcome
22:26 tuxayo aleisha: maybe there is something with that particular email, still no sign of it :o
22:26 tuxayo Not in spam though.
22:26 aleisha oh i forwarded it to you straight away
22:26 aleisha maybe it's being filtered somewhere?
22:30 tuxayo aleisha: nothing in my email server logs mentionning since many hours. (and a ping that I just sent to you)
22:30 aleisha i did receive your ping
22:31 tuxayo good, can you reply? let's see if that passes.
22:31 aleisha done
22:36 tuxayo aleisha: so, I got the ping back. And one minute later I got the forward!
22:37 tuxayo Odd. I hope that will never cause major issues.
22:37 aleisha hopefully thats solved it! weird tho'
22:38 tuxayo aleisha++ Thanks for your time
22:39 aleisha no worries at all :)
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23:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
23:10 wahanui Congratulations!
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23:11 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
23:11 wahanui Congratulations!
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23:13 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
23:13 wahanui Congratulations!
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23:41 wahanui Congratulations!
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