IRC log for #koha, 2020-06-22

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03:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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04:02 dcook Bug 16357
04:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16357 normal, P3, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Plack error logs are not time stamped
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06:38 reiveune hello
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06:40 fridolin hi there
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06:42 alex_a Bonjour
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07:27 magnuse \o/
07:39 cait1 lukeG: please don't ignore string freeze :( You pushed a bunch of new strings after 22nd that now cannot be translated for the 20.05.01 release.
07:41 cait1 argh, after 15th
07:41 cait1 it's 22nd now
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08:53 TimothyAlexis Is there a job to clear obsolete fines?
08:58 TimothyAlexis Also, I see there is a "lastseen" field of type date in the Borrowers table, however each entry has the value NULL. Is this field supposed to log "last login" ?
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09:59 fridolin small typo in master : Bug 25839
09:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25839 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Typo patron.streetype in
10:00 fridolin breaks patrons creation
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10:54 TimothyAlexis_ I've found the details for the "lastseen" field.
10:54 TimothyAlexis_ The other question remains. :)
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11:58 tuxayo hi #koha o/
11:58 tuxayo wizzycray: or gmcharlt around?
12:04 oleonard hi #koha o/
12:05 TimothyAlexis hello
12:11 tuxayo First step of the release: the translations "export" tells me «
12:11 tuxayo Translation project for v19.05 does not exist!»
12:12 tuxayo :<
12:13 tuxayo Good, it was just a mistake, I should have wrote 19.05.12 instead of v19.05.12
12:14 tuxayo pfiou
12:17 tcohen motninh
12:19 TimothyAlexis Is there a Koha job to clean up the fines log?
12:31 oleonard fridolin around?
12:32 magnuse TimothyAlexis: have you looked at the cronjob?
12:32 fridolin oleonard: yes
12:33 oleonard Hi, I was looking at Bug 25839
12:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25839 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Typo patron.streetype in
12:33 magnuse TimothyAlexis: the scope of that script has been expanded quite a lot in the latest version (or the one before?)
12:33 oleonard I noticed there are other instances of the incorrect string "streetype" being used. I wonder if those should be corrected too
12:34 oleonard fridolin, I know those instances are part of the same problem, but perhaps for consistency?
12:35 TimothyAlexis magnuse Thank you for the suggestion, now I know where to look.
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12:48 tcohen ok, 4G, internet is unreliable ATM
12:50 fridolin oleonard: indeed, there is a var
12:51 fridolin oleonard: create a new bug i'd say
12:53 oleonard Okay
12:54 fridolin oleonard: tell me its number when created ;)
12:58 oleonard fridolin: Bug 25842
12:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25842 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, NEW , Typo "streetype" in
12:58 ashimema oleonard shouldn't adaptive css for veiwport also come into play for high zoom levels on desktop?
12:59 * ashimema is looking at bug 25242
12:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom
13:06 ashimema ever thought about doing something like for tables in the OPAC for better mobile support ?
13:08 oleonard In fact I have done so :) But it doesn't seem to kick in until a narrower view than what the bug describes
13:09 oleonard There is also this we might consider
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13:11 tcohen is bug 25288 pushed already?
13:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Make the libraries list use the API
13:11 fridolin[…]release-tools.git
13:13 ashimema Thanks oleonard
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13:46 gmcharlt tuxayo: still need help with something?
13:50 * oleonard waves to gmcharlt
13:50 * gmcharlt waves back
13:50 tcohen \o
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13:55 ashimema cait... you've well and truly knocked me off top spot over the weeken
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13:56 tuxayo gmcharlt: yes ^^"
13:56 tuxayo Do you confirm being Wordpress admin on the website?
13:56 tuxayo We messaged with Liz a few weeks ago about creating an account for me to announce releases but that might have been lost among other tasks.
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13:56 tuxayo I noticed that a bit late friday (saturday in NZ) and sent and email hoping for it to make it through for monday (12h ago for NZ)
13:56 tuxayo But since I had email-ending-up-in-spam issues, that might have been he case :(
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13:57 gmcharlt tuxayo: I am. please DM your preferred email address and I'll set you up
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14:00 tuxayo gmcharlt: thanks :D
14:00 tuxayo I might be an imposter on IRC though :P
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14:00 tuxayo You can use the email address that is signing off the commits pushed on 19.05.x
14:00 tuxayo[…]-/commits/19.05.x
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14:01 gmcharlt tuxayo: OK, you should shortnly have an email asking to confirm your WP account
14:07 tuxayo gmcharlt++ # Saved the day again! :)
14:07 tcohen hi gmcharlt
14:07 gmcharlt hi tcohen
14:08 gmcharlt tuxayo: well, that's the thing: we take are imposters and put them to working testing patches ;)
14:08 gmcharlt *our
14:12 * oleonard starts assigning patch-testing punishments for the most trivial infractions
14:13 tuxayo gmcharlt: oh no they got me!
14:13 gmcharlt :)
14:14 tuxayo oleonard: We could partner with a few libraries to have that in the overdue triggers. Best would be librarian school libraries.
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14:16 oleonard Is child labor ethical if it's for open source? I could be convinced
14:25 tcohen has anyone manage to make cats do QA?
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14:28 gmcharlt fuzz testing, sure
14:29 oleonard :P
14:35 tcohen we improved our test suite when we made test execution random
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14:46 tuxayo > fuzz testing, sure
14:46 tuxayo Ubuntu users do.
14:46 tuxayo[…]nity/+bug/1463112
14:46 tuxayo[…]eter/+bug/1538615
14:46 tuxayo[…]nity/+bug/1303698
14:46 tuxayo[…]140307_200415.jpg
14:46 tuxayo[…]d-sitting-cat.jpg
14:47 tuxayo caroline: might have some experience in cat-driven QA
14:58 tcohen tuxayo LOL
15:00 reiveune bye
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15:12 caroline tuxayo: omg, I was just giving a training via video conference and of course my cats had to chase each other right behind me and make a mess hehe
15:13 tuxayo purrfect
15:21 caroline my weekend project
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15:27 tuxayo That a good moment to try Bibliogram, I never tried it before.
15:27 tuxayo
15:28 tuxayo he he, very nice caroline !
15:28 tuxayo tcohen: do you remember if that already happened for the release to put the wrong team in the generated release notes?
15:29 tuxayo The repo is up to date though.
15:31 tuxayo Also the wrong recommendations for deployments (env)
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15:59 TimothyAlexis Thank you again magnuse, I found it.
15:59 TimothyAlexis I wish you all superb health, clarity of mind and a blessed rest of today.
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16:15 oleonard tuxayo: Bibliogram looks cool!
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16:57 tuxayo tcohen: ashimema : Does running `prove -r t/ xt/` in koha-testing-docker with
16:57 tuxayo the right image and DBMS is good enough to reproduce the CI locally?
16:58 tuxayo It's for a one shot run for envs not in the CI for 19.05
16:59 tuxayo (after the release, I'll see what need to be added to the CI and what need to be removed)
17:06 ashimema That's what I used to do yes
17:06 ashimema Sorry, dinner duties calling
17:07 tuxayo ashimema: Thanks, no worries. I think I'm good now. After that, NZ will wake up if I have any issues.
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18:01 tuxayo Does anyone know how to check which are the Perl version requirements for a Koha version?
18:01 tuxayo It seems the release notes says "Perl 5.10 is required" since many years until now ^^"
18:03 tuxayo the debian/control file mentions "perl-modules | perl-modules-5.22 | perl-modules-5.24," for 19.05 which I guess means «supported perl version 5.20, 5.22, 5.24»
18:05 tuxayo Actually I should just pick the perl version where the automated tests pass. Otherwise is not reliable to tell for any other version.
18:09 tcohen I think it depends on the version, but as we deprecated jessie...
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18:47 tuxayo tcohen: Yes, I'll not count Jessie (the dev meeting logs where not clear if Jessie is dropped now or in one Month...)
18:47 tuxayo But it seems to lean towards is now.
18:48 tuxayo *towards now
18:48 tuxayo (anyway, the tests still pass on Debian 8 so nobody should complain :P )
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20:15 tuxayo tcohen: still around?
20:15 tcohen only for a couple more minutes
20:15 tcohen shoot
20:18 tuxayo tcohen: The previous release of 19.05 advertised experimental MySQL 8 support seemingly without testing it.
20:18 tuxayo I ran the tests locally to fact check that and I got 2 failure DB related.
20:18 tuxayo Should I remove in the release notes "experimental MySQL 8 support".
20:18 tuxayo *?
20:18 tuxayo And maybe add it back next month (maybe a simple backport can fix it)
20:18 tuxayo done.
20:19 tuxayo *MariaDB 10.3
20:19 tuxayo (not MySQL 8)
20:19 tuxayo doesn't change the question actually
20:19 tcohen what are those failures?
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20:20 tuxayo tcohen: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=23825#c34
20:20 huginn Bug 23825: normal, P5 - low, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, Object.t is failing - Exception not caught
20:21 tcohen I would say we can keep the experimental flag
20:21 tcohen in both cases an exception is thrown
20:22 tuxayo Ok, I didn't get the impact of the bug
20:22 tuxayo Thanks tcohen :)
20:22 tuxayo tcohen++
20:22 tcohen is this 19.11?
20:22 tcohen no, 19.05
20:23 * andreashm waves
20:24 tcohen let me check something tuxayo
20:25 tuxayo Ok, I'll be back latter unfortunatelly
20:25 tcohen No, wait 30 seconds :-D
20:26 tcohen[…]ha/
20:27 tcohen compare that to the warn in your comment
20:27 tcohen your comment shows backticks
20:27 tcohen that's why it is failing, it should even be simple to correct
20:27 tcohen fix
20:27 tuxayo ok
20:28 tcohen 23825 is the proper fix for it
20:29 tuxayo I'm already late for releasing. And the rest of the process will also be my first time.
20:30 tuxayo tcohen: 23825 I applied it indeed and that fixed these tests. But that would require me rerun all the other tests locally (for reasons)
20:30 tcohen No
20:31 tcohen there's a discrepancy on the string this mariadb version returns to detail the error it got
20:31 tcohen on other DB versions, it is consistent, this patch just makes the regexp catch *also* this case
20:32 tcohen I find it pretty safe
20:32 tcohen and you can push it to your branch, and eventually push a revert once Jenkins has gon through all combinations and you find it causes trouble (which you shouldn't)
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20:47 aleisha hello
20:47 wahanui niihau, aleisha
20:47 oleonard-away Hi aleisha
20:51 * cait waves
20:55 * mtj waves back 🙋🏻‍
20:55 mtj hi #koha
20:55 cait hi mtj :)
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21:21 tuxayo hi aleisha o/
21:21 aleisha heyo
21:26 tuxayo aleisha: I got several issues while beginning release which were very confusing. Here are some warnings about the release not generation:
21:26 tuxayo 1. RMaint team wrong, I'll fix it manually in my release notes. You might want to check also the rest of the team
21:26 tuxayo (I didn't check yet the rest of the notes)
21:26 tuxayo 2. Recommended perl version wrong[…]tools/-/issues/12
21:26 tuxayo 3. Recommended Debian & DBMS versions wrong. It didn't match my CI.
21:26 tuxayo I had to run locally many times to fact check what was advertised in the earlier releases of my branch.
21:28 tuxayo I hope I didn't make mistakes and that the rest of the release will be okay.
21:29 aleisha thanks yes tuxayo i did notice that the rmaint team was wrong
21:29 aleisha im sure you sorted everything out :)
21:32 tuxayo aleisha: I'm sure not! I didn't finished proofreading them :P
21:32 tuxayo I just finished the fifth test suite run and there are failures on MySQL 8 :( (well it did said "experimental")
21:33 tuxayo If you find something new in your branch, I would be much interested.
21:34 aleisha i got held up with fixing errors in the translation files - ill let you know about the rest once i get to it
21:34 tuxayo I hope at least the CI of stable and oldstable match what the release note generator and the previous release say.
21:38 tuxayo aleisha: I might have overlooked the translation issues. Is that issues like that?
21:38 tuxayo «a format specification for argument 'count' doesn't exist»
21:38 aleisha yes those kinds of errors
21:38 rangi if thats in the messages.po files then yeah
21:38 rangi it should give you a line number
21:38 tuxayo «number of format specifications in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' does not match»
21:39 tuxayo Yes there are
21:39 rangi yeah thats another one
21:39 rangi for those ones, yuo can either fix it if you can (if you can read the language its in)
21:39 rangi or
21:39 rangi mark it fuzzy
21:40 rangi to do that you can on the line above that has the #,c-format
21:40 rangi put
21:40 rangi ,fuzzy
21:40 rangi ie #,c-format,fuzzy
21:40 rangi that tells the system we aren't sure about that translation
21:40 * rangi hopes he is making sense
21:41 cait sounded good to me :)
21:41 tuxayo Thanks you both for raising that issue and the explanation.
21:41 tuxayo Should I also go in the translation platform to mark it fuzzy there?
21:41 tuxayo So the same issue doesn't pop next month.
21:41 cait also always think about string freeze - no string changes after 15th
21:42 rangi ideally yes, bonus points for emailing the translate list and saying you did it so someone can fix the translation
21:42 tuxayo cait: I tried to pay attention to the changed file types
21:42 cait good  :)
21:43 tuxayo .tt and .inc right?
21:43 cait also js these days
21:43 cait best to check/read the changes
21:43 tuxayo indeed!
21:44 tuxayo rangi: Ok, I'll try that.
21:44 rangi (it has the side effect of reminding people to translate :))
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21:54 tuxayo aleisha: rangi is force push allowed for fixing mistakes just before release? ^^" (no tag was pushed yet)
21:54 rangi hmm did you do a rebase?
21:55 rangi (ie why are you needing to force push?)
21:55 aleisha hey tuxayo just as a heads up for the release notes using the old rmaint team - i needed to update the etc/config.yaml and change the master version at the top of the file to 20.11
21:56 tuxayo Thanks aleisha . That didn't prevent me from getting the wrong team though :(
21:56 rangi short answer is no, we prefer a revert etc
21:56 rangi because it will mess up anyone who has a clone of it
21:56 rangi but if you need ot, then go for it, just drop a note to koha-devel so that people know
21:57 rangi hope that helps
22:00 tuxayo rangi:  I have already pushed:
22:00 tuxayo - Translation updates for Koha 19.05.12
22:00 tuxayo - Increment version for 19.05.12 release
22:00 tuxayo So I need to fix the translations and also Tomas thinks that I should backport a small fix for MariaDB 10.3
22:00 tuxayo (which has experimental support in 19.05.x)
22:00 tuxayo How it will mess up with the other having clones if there don't work on 19.05.X?
22:00 tuxayo When I do git remote update I often see "(force pushed)" on the branches in the remote that are mirrors (like the GitLab mirror).
22:00 tuxayo And git doesn't know it's a mirror.
22:00 rangi if anyone else has a 19.05.x checkout
22:01 rangi has some local comits
22:01 rangi does a pull
22:01 rangi it will get messy
22:02 rangi its ok as long as people are aware of it
22:03 rangi (rebasing changes commitids)
22:03 tuxayo Indeed, a local 19.05.x where there add commit.
22:04 tuxayo If that okay to have a messy history with stuff after the version increment then I can do that.
22:04 rangi i think thats fine
22:04 rangi its only really if you have pushed the tag
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22:04 rangi that you would have to force push
22:04 rangi (to change the tag)
22:05 tuxayo Good, let it be simple then. ^^
22:20 tuxayo rangi: When looking at a case I don't get how to fix it.
22:20 tuxayo[…]ZZdUwXyqaMv5oz1wr
22:20 tuxayo I could just copy what you did for 19.11 to 19.05 but understanding   has advantages ^^"
22:20 tuxayo https://translate.koha-communi[…].po#unit=10625354
22:21 tuxayo https://translate.koha-communi[…]s.po#unit=8853240
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22:23 rangi ahh its saying it needs a {count} in the msgstr[3] line
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22:23 rangi i don't know arabic, so i would just copy "{count} مواد"
22:24 rangi and hope there is only one plural version of items
22:24 rangi some languages the word changes if tere is 1, 2, 3, 4 or more of something
22:26 tuxayo rangi: Ok, I'll mark as fuzzy because there are no common arabic parts between 19.05 and 19.11!
22:26 tuxayo That might be a sign of multiple plural forms :o
22:26 rangi yeah
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22:27 rangi translation manager is a super fun & interesting job
22:27 rangi i did it once a long time ago
22:27 rangi bernardo has been great, but we should probably get some others learning just in case he ever wants to take a break
22:28 tuxayo +1
22:37 tuxayo Does anyone confirm that in the translation platform we can't mark a string a fuzzy without having so user privilege related to the language?
22:37 tuxayo Even though we can directly submit the translations...
22:38 rangi im not sure
22:38 tuxayo Like I can fix something but if I don't know the language, I can't even mark a fuzzy. I had to let it here.
22:38 rangi ahh might need to ask bernardo
22:39 tuxayo I only see the checkbox when being on the esperanto translation XD
22:39 tuxayo (which I ended up being admin of lol)
22:39 tuxayo Ok, I'll ask Bernardo
22:40 cait there is a "needs more work" checkbox
22:40 cait that is the fuzzy one
22:40 cait do you see that?
22:41 cait I am admin... so i see it everywhere :(
22:41 tuxayo > do you see that?
22:41 tuxayo Nope, expect in one language ^^"
22:41 tuxayo > I am admin... so i see it everywhere :(
22:41 tuxayo That's why :P
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23:09 tuxayo Should I remove from the release note the advertised "experimental support for MySQL 8" ?, it has 16 test failures...
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23:26 tuxayo Any opinion rangi , aleisha ? (my previous message)
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23:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
23:54 wahanui Congratulations!
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23:55 hayleymapley_ up to you tuxayo
23:55 hayleymapley_ it is experimental
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