IRC log for #koha, 2020-06-09

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00:00 tuxayo > between 12 and 8 tickets
00:00 tuxayo oddly in my case, I found in bugzilla that few of those 12 have been considered for backport. Hence the interval.
00:01 hayley usually people don't say on the ticket unless they are backporting, I think it's a me thing to say 'not backporting'
00:08 tuxayo In the case of Lucas they were also writing something in those case.
00:08 tuxayo And I remember seeing that from others. Maybe you started a trend :P
00:11 hayley hehe perhaps! I guess it depends how much work you wanna do, regarding looking backwards
00:18 tuxayo If I apply what I did but for 19.11.x: RMaint should start after bug 25531 in 20.05.x.
00:18 tuxayo Which gives the following list of commits.
00:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25531 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to stable , Patron may not be debarred if backdated return
00:18 tuxayo[…]144HKZ46ZPrK19oA3
00:18 tuxayo Are you sure aleisha don't have at least on part of that to check for backporting?
00:18 tuxayo Unless in all those tickets, talljoy found none that was suitable for backport.
00:19 tuxayo It would be surprising.
00:21 hayley that's the thing, it's a lot more work if we have to go back and investigate like this so normally we just trust that the person on the version above has made the right decisions
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00:33 tuxayo hayley: It's not about trust, it's about a divergence of start and stop point between two RMaints who aren't aware of this difference.
00:33 tuxayo In the example of 19.11 it seems sure that there would be a gap in RMaint. Because the latest release on 19.11.x of Joy got release the 22th.
00:34 tuxayo After that not more backport from master because it now the work of the next team. (or maybe not until the release of 20.05, ambiguity here also)
00:34 tuxayo But master continued to get commits until may 29th. And only the 29th, 20.05.00 was created.
00:34 tuxayo So of aleisha only look after the 20.05.00 tag, 7 days of commit will not be inspected for eventual backporting.
00:35 hayley right, well in that case it's kind of on lukeG to make that gap up right?
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00:35 hayley then you and aleisha cascade?
00:38 hayley so lucas I am assuming will now look at master to see if there is anything important to backport, and then we go from there?
00:38 tuxayo > right, well in that case it's kind of on lukeG to make that gap up right?
00:38 tuxayo Lucas's branch already has the commits IIUC
00:38 tuxayo[…]144HKZ46ZPrK19oA3
00:38 hayley ah I see what you mean
00:41 dcook @later tell Joubu I did add more code with my more talk ;). Happy to talk about what I mean by the code being smaller, but too hard to do via huginn.
00:41 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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01:16 tuxayo hayley: a solution would be to have in the RMaint handover process to explicitly handover "ye RMaint cursor" ^_^
01:17 hayley yes I agree tuxayo it would be good to have a process for that - the other thing to keep in mind is that none of these patches really NEED to be on these branches, it is maintenance after all!
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01:19 tuxayo That can be compensated being more prudent about what's backported at the beginning of the cycle
01:19 tuxayo (not knowing well the context(previous patches) and the usual gotchas of the branch)
01:21 tuxayo Because skipping them could not help due to the confusion in case of a bug whose dependency is in the gap.
01:21 tuxayo (Maybe it's far fetched ↑)
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01:38 tuxayo Also about a secondary problem: is there a more efficient choice on where to go at the end of one's RMaint cycle?
01:38 tuxayo Or is it equivalent and we should let it float depending on the people and the moments:
01:38 tuxayo - until the latest point release of the RMaint
01:38 tuxayo - until the release of the next major version
01:38 tuxayo I would say the 2nd because it's easier to do a longer last RMaint month than a longer first month.
01:39 tuxayo Especially for beginners, but not only, everyone goes back a bit toward being a beginner on the first month on a branch.
01:39 tuxayo -
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01:39 tuxayo BTW Cursor still necessary, in both cases to not miss few patches of offset that can be between two branches,
01:39 tuxayo because we can't backport an upstream patch only a few hours after it landed.
01:39 tuxayo And actually more than a cursor in necessary, to not drop the patches that touch strings that are waiting the next month.
01:39 tuxayo _
01:39 tuxayo It's not about giving a lot attention to every patch. It about not missing a few of them on every cycle "by design" of the process.
01:40 tuxayo And on constant RMaint resources that means upping the bar on what to backport.
01:40 tuxayo That will allow to include the valuable patches in the current gaps. At the expense of leaving out the ones where there is hesitation today.
01:42 tuxayo Sorry for the essay...
01:43 tuxayo Everyone's opinion welcome so I can find a middle ground of these things to RMaint well and efficiently ^^
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03:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #160: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/160/
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05:01 TimothyAlexis On staff we have "Lists" and "Authorities" can these be turned off easily?
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05:11 dcook TimothyAlexis: I think you can get rid of "Lists" all together by disabling "virtualshelves"
05:11 dcook As for Authorities, are you talking about hiding the menu option or disabling it all together?
05:11 dcook I'd say the only way to just hide the option is with some Javascript (so not easily per se)
05:12 TimothyAlexis We are using neither of these. I could easily hide them from the menus, but if there is an "off" option somewhere, that would be convenient.
05:15 TimothyAlexis Those working with the Staff interface find it proper to have only buttons related to their daily work.
05:36 TimothyAlexis I've hidden these from the menus. What do you think, should we add options for this?
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05:55 mtj hi tcohen, my dev server (aka docker3) had a hardware fail last nite... it will hopefully be back up in a few hours
05:56 * mtj xrosses fingers
06:00 mtj i'm very thankful that it decided to fail *after* the 20.05 release :0)
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06:40 reiveune hello
06:40 wahanui what's up, reiveune
06:45 magnuse \o/
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06:47 magnuse maybe we could have kept OpacMainUserBlock, with just a note explaining it has been moved to News?
06:47 alex_a Bonjour
06:47 wahanui hola, alex_a
06:47 magnuse ...and then removed it in 20.11, i meam
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07:56 kohaputti ashimema, Joubu does debian 10 work for jenkins?
07:56 kohaputti tried to ask tcohen already
07:58 kohaputti well it seems to have and java soo, guessing it works
08:01 mtj hi kohaputti, deb10 is fine :)
08:01 kohaputti ok
08:02 ashimema Morning #koha
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09:13 Joubu @later tell tuxayo when you backport something you need to adjust the "Version(s) released in:" field on bugzilla
09:13 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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10:55 oleonard Hi all
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11:18 tcohen morning
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11:29 * kidclamp waves
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11:50 magnuse \o/
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12:16 ashimema Tuxayo, try using koha-push from the release tools.. I could help with the bugzilla management side of rmaint
12:21 Joubu well, it needs to be configured first!
12:24 kohaputti oh no, the mailing list is filled with these same opac/intranet permissions issues, I wonder if everybody joins the list now to tell about this issue and don't know it has been answered there already
12:24 Joubu I answered already
12:24 Joubu at least twice I think
12:25 cait i guess we will keep doing that until it's fixed
12:26 Joubu I will reply to Victor and more generaly on the release announcement
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13:51 pastebot Someone at pasted "tcohen: added new tests in t/mojo/json.t - they all pass" (19 lines) at
13:52 tcohen ?
13:54 Joubu it's me
13:54 tcohen I know
13:54 tcohen I'm puzzled
13:54 Joubu e+19 or e+25 are always displayed in non scientic format
13:55 tcohen so it is us?
13:55 tcohen or maybe the Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI chain
13:57 tcohen ah
13:58 Joubu use Mojo::JSON;
13:58 Joubu my $v = '{"unit_price": 64342152748241616073212398}';
13:58 Joubu my $d = Mojo::JSON::decode_json($v);
13:58 Joubu say $d->{unit_price};
13:58 Joubu displays 6.43421527482416e+25
13:59 Joubu and
13:59 Joubu use Mojo::JSON;
13:59 Joubu my $v = '{"unit_price": 10177559957753600000}';
13:59 Joubu my $d = Mojo::JSON::decode_json($v);
13:59 Joubu say $d->{unit_price};
13:59 Joubu displays 10177559957753600000
13:59 Joubu and I just want to cry
13:59 Joubu and I give up
14:01 Joubu ha but... that's not the same Mojo version
14:01 Joubu the json.t is coming from their git repo
14:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #12: FAILURE in 2 min 48 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/12/
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14:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25638: Make the tests pass - ignoring the actual issue <[…]2af891507018009ac>
14:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #320: FAILURE in 2 min 37 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/320/
14:21 tcohen Joubu I need to momentarily disable Dcoker_4
14:22 Joubu @later tell mtj can you have a look at 25692 please?
14:22 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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14:44 tuxayo ashimema: «Tuxayo, try using koha-push from the release tools.. I could help with the bugzilla management side of rmaint»
14:45 tuxayo Ok, somehow I forgot about koha-push
14:46 tuxayo I'll see what is missing in the already backported patches
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14:56 tuxayo Wiki page "Release_maintenance"
14:56 tuxayo «add the specific release version to for which the bug will be released»
14:56 tuxayo Ok, this is in advance!
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15:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:06 wahanui Congratulations!
15:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1363: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1363/
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15:43 eythian[…]y-almost-40-late/
15:47 tuxayo > The maximum fine for a late return is €5. If there had been no limit the fine would have been €1530,75, the library said.
15:47 tuxayo he he
15:48 tuxayo That would be a lot of calendar calculations in Koha
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15:58 caroline When there is this in the xslt
15:58 caroline <xsl:attribute name="class">subject</xsl:attribute>
15:58 caroline the "subject" part is the html class right?
15:59 caroline it should not be translated?
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16:07 reiveune bye
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16:18 tuxayo cait: around?
16:35 caroline any translators around?
16:47 oleonard caroline that's my understanding. Are you finding that it's not the way it works?
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16:51 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:51 wahanui Congratulations!
16:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #346: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/346/
16:53 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:53 wahanui Congratulations!
16:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #321: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/321/
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17:27 gary Has anyone deployed on GCP?
17:29 gary @chris_n
17:29 huginn gary: downloading the Perl source
17:29 tuxayo gary: Google Cloud Platform?
17:29 gary Yes
17:30 gary Google Cloud or any public cloud
17:30 tuxayo gary: What do you mean by cloud? A PAAS for Perl?
17:31 gary A cloud hosted linux VM or container
17:32 tuxayo > linux VM or container
17:32 tuxayo That looks more flexible. With root access right?
17:32 gary Yes
17:32 caroline oleonard: it's just that "subject" was on Pootle to be translated... But if it's a class, it shouldn't be translated otherwise the css will be messed up
17:33 tuxayo gary: If it runs Debian or Ubuntu it should be no different than how the vast majority of people install and manage Koha.
17:33 oleonard caroline: What line of what file?
17:33 caroline hm, let me go back and find it
17:35 caroline koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/x​slt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl:816
17:38 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:38 wahanui Congratulations!
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18:24 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:24 wahanui Congratulations!
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18:38 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:38 wahanui Congratulations!
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18:38 Marie-Luce Hi everyone
18:39 oleonard Hi Marie-Luce
18:39 Marie-Luce is there a way to upload a pdf in Koha and add a link to the pdf in the Staff interface News?
18:40 Marie-Luce Hi oleonard
18:40 wahanui hi oleopard
18:40 Marie-Luce Hi wahanui
18:45 wizzycray koha-list needs a --enabled --z3950responder
18:45 wizzycray i'll file a bug :P
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18:51 oleonard Marie-Luce the "Upload" tool under Tools might work for you
18:57 Marie-Luce good thinking.
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