IRC log for #koha, 2020-05-04

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06:41 ashimema[m] mornin'
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06:56 alex_a Bonjour
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07:41 janPasi hi guys, has anyone tried running Koha on ARM-based servers?
07:41 janPasi are there problems to be expected?
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: DBRev 19.12.00.084 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba32728baf03122c0>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Schema Update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a5a735cc9aedd54d1>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17355: DBRev 19.12.00.083 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]42870083236b66bd0>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25311: (QA follow-up) Add misssing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]383d864cebf32a7c4>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Don't show the macro ID in front of description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]829419f99d0ac9dba>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (QA follow-up) Make "Convert old browser macros" translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d295f868abc1e718>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17355: (QA follow-up) Add description to updatedatabase entry <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0bbc58fd388b5e650>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25309: Limit size of streetnumber field to 10 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c1b275a9bdba6f97>
07:43 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25311: Better error handling when updating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6851030e22b31b27>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25311: Better error handling when creating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6b2fe42955661b5b7>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24808: enable translation on results.js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72a39f49480c7e39f>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17355: Add the ability to remove authorised value categories <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f2b1ecd9f15adf54e>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Update patchs per RFC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77967f271d5ae553e>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Fix translatability <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a5935bdc9691804c>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Set boolean for shared column in schema <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]656bca28e013b6ca9>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Fix licenses <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9c5d0a9b321b9acb>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Use API to store/retrieve values <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]24d5571608d14cf61>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Schema update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c278eb54c3bdd7d7d>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Advanced cataloging editor macros - add endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40d6dbffaf98d57df>
07:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Add macros table and permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]080efc548b48fefac>
07:45 cait2 the work of a long weekend... gone in a second ;)
07:46 ashimema[m] not all of it ;)
07:46 ashimema[m] just the first half or so
07:46 ashimema[m] great work cait, thankyou :)
07:48 cait2 hopefully jenkins will agree :)
07:48 magnuse cait++
07:48 cait2 janPasi: total noob there... is raspberry arm based? there are some pages on the wiki and I think Fred King did a presentation recently
07:50 ashimema[m] the pi is indeed an arm board
07:54 janPasi cait2: yep, raspberry pi is ARM :)
07:55 janPasi cait2: you wouldn't happen to have a link to the presentation? is it available on-line?
07:55 cait2 i believe it was for Koha Us
07:56 cait2 http://avengingchicken.online/[…]aspberry-pi-4.pdf
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24636: (follow-up) - move 'by' into include file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]afa26463d5e7a6619>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25340: Pass biblio object to OPAC comments template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15e2c958f264bc76f>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25335: group by authorised_value in addbiblio.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6b73e453d487d67b7>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21565: (follow-up) Make confirmation buttons more detailed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6c7767c6374c279dd>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25305: Translation process - Open all files specifying the utf8 encoding <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5033cdc1012698986>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24636: translate planning sections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c1000a91aaac8c5f5>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22515: Improve logic determining how to show OPAC suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82d3ddf8fe37b510f>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21565: Add modal to SCO confirm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d09375488ff322e21>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25247: Only convert data ot objects when displaying on screen <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0917da664e9b6ade>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: (follow-up) Remove Names as they do no affect display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1bcd69a5854016aa>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: Handle 12hr format for dt_from_string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9424d70703afa722e>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: Fix time part of due date for 12hr <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bfdc5ac969d9ed990>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25107: Remove double passing of $server variable to maybe_add in C4::SIP::Sip... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86ee775a89d7f4c0b>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23119: MARC21 added title 246, 730 subfield i displays out of order, and should... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b26d31521ccb5ee44>
07:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18308: Increase minPasswordLength default to 8 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d6ee93267b741986>
07:56 janPasi cait2: awesome, thank you very much :
07:57 cait2 no problem, googling also seems to bring up a bit from the mailing list
07:58 janPasi we're not planning to use raspberry pi actually, but rather something based on AMD Opteron A or something like that, but that will still be helpful :)
07:58 janPasi we're planning to move all our Koha installations to be hosted by one single service provider and we've been thinking about maybe switching away from Intel while we're at it
07:59 janPasi at the moment we have six service providers, it's a nightmare :D
08:00 janPasi Actually I think I'll try it on raspberry pi first, that's a really cheap way to do some preliminary testing :)
08:05 ashimema[m] I'd be really interested in the results of running on the opteron A
08:06 janPasi ashimema[m]: I'll try to remember to let you know how this goes, just ask me if I don't remember :D
08:06 ashimema[m] went to a presentation in cambridge recently where they were showing off next gen ARMs with 256 cores
08:06 janPasi whoa, that's a lot of cores
08:07 ashimema[m] they're really going for the parallel compute route
08:07 janPasi so it seems :D
08:07 ashimema[m] we a very interesting presentation by one of the ARM founders
08:07 janPasi what was that abou?
08:08 janPasi *about
08:08 ashimema[m] s/we a/ was a/
08:08 ashimema[m] it was just a bit of a history of ARM and where they're headed next
08:08 janPasi sounds interesting
08:08 ashimema[m] it's an amazing platform
08:09 janPasi i for one am a big fan of arm
08:09 janPasi yep
08:17 liliputech_asu what about RISC-V ?
08:17 liliputech_asu (didn't tried it yet)
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08:18 janPasi liliputech_asu: is there hardware? :D
08:18 liliputech_asu janPasi: yes =)
08:19 janPasi liliputech_asu: also, how about OS/software compatibility? It's not very practical having to compile everything from source :(
08:19 ashimema[m] I know a few people who are very keen on RISC.. but i've never played with it myself
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08:22 liliputech_asu mostly devboard (like beaglebone / stuff like that)
08:22 liliputech_asu there was a great article in a journal called "hackable magazine" (french publication)
08:27 janPasi well that sort of rules it out for production servers :D
08:35 janPasi ashimema[m]: from what I understand, modern day Intel processors are internally also (at least mostly) RISC, they just look like CISC to the outside :D
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08:36 janPasi ashimema[m]: they work in a way that they break CISC into a group of RISC commands and then execute them separately
08:37 janPasi ashimema[m]: to the user it looks like (s)he is dealing with a CISC processor, but that's just because there is an extra "layer" on top of RISC architecture that provides CISC style command set
08:38 janPasi ashimema[m]: i'm not an expert in this, but that's what I've allowed myself to be told :D
08:39 janPasi ashimema[m]: the problem with this evidently is that it's not very efficient compared to real RISC
08:39 ashimema[m] interesting
08:40 tcohen morning
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08:45 ashimema[m] rather early for you isn't it tcohen ?
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Schema Fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f6a2e1e7f74dfb8b5>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBRev 19.12.00.085 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59f45e249f8a24468>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) DB changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ecb81d3eb4140232c>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Fix license statements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2853da2fbd0778e0b>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24995: (QA follow-up) Terminology: Use checkin and checkout <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4974ef6da18fc011c>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (QA follow-up) Add date accessioned to column configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92a3b3cd55fd5e8cf>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (QA follow-up) Fix capitalization Course Reserves <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a26172d8924dc10fa>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25350: Load Emoji picker assets more efficiently <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]181fff9a1493cae94>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Display claimed dates vertically <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ddee2850f53fd1e15>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBIC manual changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e696e0ecaec2b3452>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24995: Add issuedate to table_account_fines and finest <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9014bc7e233d3a79f>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (follow up) add selector to th <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49af43a3c02e0b8b1>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15668: Add column configuration to the items table in staff detail pages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2897ec6a23b2bec22>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24740: Use biblio title rather than biblio number in OPAC search result cover... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]702c9873ea8942e44>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e7c6957b91309ae17>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Remove GetLateOrders <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7f7fad95a2e519604>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Keep tracks of late orders claims <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a217ce6c0f6bda47>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Add the Koha::Acquisition::Order::Claim[s] classes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68aaedd767b7977e2>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBIC changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6d9eeb32dd0f7f53>
08:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DB changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4015696a09c4e61d>
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09:04 tuxayo hi #koha o/
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09:17 tuxayo janPasi: About running Koha on ARM, if you are lucky, none of the perl deps from the Koha deb repo has native code.
09:17 tuxayo And the only perl deps and other deps with native code will come from Debian direclty.
09:17 tuxayo So nothing to compile and nothing to do differently from a classic install. (I hope).
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09:19 tuxayo *Aside from telling your OS to use the Koha deb repo even if it's the wrong architecture. (like it's done on the slides sent earlier here)
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09:31 janPasi tuxayo: that's kind of what I was hoping for :D
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09:36 janPasi tuxayo: of i could just install the perl deps directly from cpan
09:36 janPasi *or
09:36 tuxayo janPasi: how does it works for native deps? Does it compile them locally when installing?
09:37 janPasi that would probably be more laboursome, but then architecture specific things would likely not be a problem
09:37 janPasi tuxayo: yep
09:37 tuxayo great :D
09:38 janPasi there might be some version incompatibilities to deal with, however
09:38 tuxayo question about koha-testing-docker for anyone: what should one do to use ES?
09:38 tuxayo switch the syspref SearchEngine and run this ?
09:38 tuxayo misc/search_tools/rebuild_elastic_search.pl -v -d
09:38 tuxayo It seems to work but I don't want to be bitten later by a missing steps.
09:39 tuxayo janPasi: you mean due to mistakes in matching the same version as in the Koha deb repo?
09:39 janPasi tuxayo: yeah, that would require some additional attention, at least
09:40 janPasi tuxayo: the latest version in cpan is not always the one you need for Koha, based on my past experiences
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09:48 Joubu @later tell marcelr bug 8132 - is it still missing info? Can you detail why you disagree with the idea? As I said it has been considered critical for several years :)
09:48 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:59 * cait2 reads UNSTABLE and hides
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10:10 cait2 bug 8132
10:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8132 major, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch delete tool deletes items with holds on them
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10:16 magnuse bug 8132
10:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8132 major, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch delete tool deletes items with holds on them
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10:27 * ashimema[m] would love to see bug 25245 make it through
10:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25245 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a plugin hook to allow running code on a nightly basis
10:27 ashimema[m] with it in we can install the recalls plugin without any manual messing about
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10:50 cait not sure what cuased this
10:50 cait but we have a javasript error preventing me to add items in acq
10:50 cait TypeError: $.timepicker is undefined
10:50 cait well... it breaks more, but that#s how i noticed
10:52 Joubu cait: certainly bug 25133
10:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25133 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Specify Due date changes from PM to AM if library has their TimeFormat set to 12hr
10:52 cait ouch
10:52 cait that's on me the
10:52 cait n
10:52 cait but i did test it... I sear
10:52 cait swear
10:52 Joubu can you let a note please?
10:53 cait i had to write up my own test plan
10:54 cait Joubu: i wantd to retest the late orders, but can't create late orders... will have to wait until i can get back to this
10:54 cait i left a note
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11:05 nlegrand a gut yor
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11:28 Joubu kidclamp: letting you the follow-up for 25133?
11:30 kidclamp ok, can do
11:30 * cait2 hopes not more things she actually tested explode today *grump*
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11:37 magnuse cait2: it only proves you too are human :-)
11:38 cait2 I am not sure this human thing suits me
11:40 magnuse hehe
11:44 Joubu ashimema[m]: selenium tests are broken because of the bug cait reported on 25133
11:44 Joubu ashimema[m]: 2 follow-ups on 24161
11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) DBIC changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b30fb6511fbc4bf9>
11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) Fix typo in POD <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b92802fe57355f1ff>
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11:58 oleonard Hi #koha
11:58 tuxayo o/ oleonard
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12:09 Joubu Thanks Nick!
12:10 Joubu Thanks kidclamp :)
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12:44 Joubu ashimema[m]: can you push Nick's follow-up on bug 25133 please?
12:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25133 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Specify Due date changes from PM to AM if library has their TimeFormat set to 12hr
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12:46 ashimema[m] done
12:46 ew hi everyone
12:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25133: (follow-up) Move changes to timepicker.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1cb0188a693405af5>
12:47 tuxayo khall++
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12:48 ew I installed koha on our server and tried to configure it. I want to catalogue our library with about 1000 books in a simple manner. I am not used to library software and I think that koha is too mighty for our purpose. Do you have any good recommendations for me?
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13:10 oleonard ew: Did you have a problem setting up Koha? I'm curious why you think it's not right for you.
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13:20 ew @oleanord: Well yes, I get various problems in the MARC testing in all preconfigured frameworks. And when trying to import from z39.50 servers and also when manually creating an entry I am overwhelmed by the professional terms the software uses... there is a steep learning curve involved for me personally
13:20 huginn ew: downloading the Perl source
13:21 ew I simply think that it is too powerful for my scenario... so I figured it would be clever to ask the experts for any alternatives that are easy to use
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13:41 oleonard ew: Unfortunately I spend all my time with Koha so I'm not aware of what the alternatives are
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13:42 ew why is a piece designation (barcoe) mandatory for example? we don't use that
13:43 oleonard ew: Because it is expected that items will be circulated
13:44 kidclamp tuxayo++
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14:19 oleonard Bug 25365
14:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25365 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , JavaScript error on neworderempty.pl: $.timepicker is undefined
14:20 oleonard Looks like the error isn't just on that page, but other pages with datepickers too
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14:25 tuxayo Good, the job offer for the next RM is published now. I'm confident we will find someone quickly.
14:25 tuxayo https://picat.drycat.fr/4UeyyXPN.png
14:26 tuxayo wait
14:27 liliputech_asu *magical* internet point \(*o*)/
14:27 tuxayo It's release manager, not release maintainer.
14:27 tuxayo Nooooooooooooo
14:28 tuxayo Well it's still a relevant offer. Despite the typo.
14:29 liliputech_asu wether its for release Maintainer or Manager, still RM tuxayo =)
14:29 tuxayo liliputech_asu: Maintainer => RMaint
14:29 liliputech_asu oh.
14:30 tuxayo Indeed that's confusing.
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14:34 Null404 hello there
14:34 wahanui Greetings, programs!
14:35 Null404 I have a problem, I used this script: https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]tatus-upon-return and koha block returned books and reserved books too
14:35 Null404 how to not block reservations ?
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14:36 caroline normally, if your not_loan value is negative, you should be able to reserve items
14:37 Null404 if I want to accept reservation, reserved book has "quarantine " status
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14:39 caroline just make sure your quarantine status is negative (like -5 like in the example)
14:40 Null404 yes
14:40 Null404 quarantine have -5 status
14:40 caroline what do you mean Koha blocks returned books and reserved books?
14:42 Null404 someone returned book and it blocked - thats ok
14:42 caroline when you say it blocked, you mean it put the quarantine status
14:42 Null404 I want to borrow reserved book from shelf and this is blocked too
14:42 Null404 yes
14:44 caroline so a book that did not have the quarantine status was reserved on the shelf, but when you check it in to confirm the reservation, it puts the quarantine status?
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14:45 Null404 I cannot confirm hold
14:45 Null404 @caroline yes
14:45 huginn Null404: downloading the Perl source
14:46 did Hi, why both indexes on biblio PRIMARY KEY (`biblionumber`), KEY `blbnoidx` (`biblionumber`) ) ? Leftover from another time?
14:47 caroline Marie-Luce: did you test this? if an item has regular available status (0) and is reserved on shelf, when you check it in, it puts the quarantine status you cannot confirm the hold? can you  check?
14:48 Marie-Luce after a checkin of a reserved item, you'll get the quarantine status
14:48 Null404 without confirm hold I can borrow book
14:48 caroline does it still pop-up the hold confirmation?
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14:49 Null404 yes I have pop up, I can confirm
14:49 Null404 I can't borrow that book
14:49 Marie-Luce from what I've seen, you will be asked to confirm the hold, but you have to ignore the message
14:50 caroline Null404: so you have the pop up and you can confirm the hold, but afterwards, you cant check it out because the not_loan status is on quarantine
14:50 Null404 if I ignore pop up also adds quarantine status
14:51 Null404 thats right caroline
14:51 caroline it logically makes sense
14:51 Null404 so how to fix that ?
14:51 caroline I'm trying to think of a way to work around it
14:51 Marie-Luce after the quarantine, you can use the automatic status change [-5: 0], this will activate the hold
14:52 Null404 I know Marie luce
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14:52 Null404 but I cannot ublock books every 5 minutes
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14:52 Null404 *unblock
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14:53 caroline Marie-Luce: this is for a book that was not out, it was in the library so it doesn't need to be in quarantine, but the checkin to confirm the hold puts it in quarantine anyway because it's a checkin
14:53 Null404 maybe there is a way to ignore retun status from [null] user ?
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14:54 Null404 thats right caroline
14:55 Joubu did: yes, it should be removed
14:55 did joubu: thanks
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14:56 caroline Null404: right now there is no way to make exceptions for  UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin
14:56 Null404 so any ideas ?
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14:57 caroline can you use something else than a status? like a location? a location will not block the loan, but your staff will know that it is quarantined
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14:58 Null404 you mean change location of book ?
14:58 caroline using  UpdateItemLocationOnCheckin
14:58 Null404 this will be problem
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14:58 caroline ok nevermind them
14:59 Null404 on one system there is 4 libraries
14:59 Null404 *are
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15:00 Marie-Luce just to clarify, are you using  UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin and the tool automatic item modification by age?
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15:01 caroline Null404: can you use  AllowNotForLoanOverride ?
15:02 caroline This will allow staff to loan out books even if they have the quarantined status
15:02 caroline exceptionally
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15:06 Null404 caroline:  click allow on "staff to override and check out items that are marked as not for loan. ?
15:06 Null404 that makes sense
15:07 caroline yes
15:07 caroline Marie-Luce thought of another option
15:07 caroline she's typing right now :)
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15:08 Marie-Luce just an idea: it may need a double checkin. For example: if you set UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin [0: -5], you can add a second rules [-5: 0]
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15:09 Marie-Luce at the first checkin, the book will get the quarantine status (you can ignore the hold confirmation), at the second checkin the book will return as available
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15:09 Marie-Luce and this time you can confirm the reservation
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15:12 Null404 sound great
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15:12 caroline Marie-Luce++
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15:20 Marie-Luce :)
15:28 Null404 thanks caroline for help ! :)
15:33 Null404 you idea Marie-Luce is awesome, it works now perfectly
15:33 Null404 *your
15:33 reiveune bye
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15:35 Marie-Luce I'm glad it worked out
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15:52 tuxayo Does anyone know where KohaDevBox or koha-testing-docker puts the SIP logs?
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16:53 kidclamp syslog?
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17:17 tuxayo kidclamp: /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages doesn't exist
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17:38 kidclamp Is there a var log Koha sip log?
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18:25 tuxayo kidclamp++
18:26 tuxayo yes, in /var/log/koha/kohadev/
18:26 tuxayo :D
18:28 oleonard kidclamp is soaking in karma today
18:30 kidclamp Be wary oleonard, it might just be a guilty conscience about bugs I created
18:31 oleonard We call that "git blame syndrome"
18:34 tuxayo It always starts with karma.
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21:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
21:36 wahanui Congratulations!
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