IRC log for #koha, 2020-02-11

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00:01 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
00:01 wahanui Congratulations!
00:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #243: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/243/
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00:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #52: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D9/52/
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01:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #56: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D8/56/
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01:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #53: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D9/53/
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07:32 * magnuse waves
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07:39 reiveune hello
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07:53 alex_a Bonjour
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08:15 fraktik Hi there, can I ask, if it's known, the is DOWN?
08:18 ashimema[m] should be back no fraktik
08:19 * ashimema[m] just poked it for you.. thanks for letting us know
08:19 fraktik Plus wanna ask general question about use of Koha - do you anyone have any experience with usage Koha in connection with tablets/cell phones (Android/iOS)? Was interested especially in possible usage of the inbuild phone camera for scanning barcododes directly into Koha. Or using some barcoder reader connected via bluetooth ...
08:19 fraktik thx, ashimema! :)
08:20 ashimema[m] afraid I've not really got much experience there
08:20 fraktik np, do you think, where is the best place I should ask this?
08:21 fraktik mail conference? or bugzilla?
08:21 ashimema[m] I don't think we do anything special to handle that sort of thing.. koha's generally coded to be adaptive but we're just using standard input forms.. I'm not sure how an android barcode scanner would get it's scanned text into the fields..
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08:21 ashimema[m] I'm just nto familiar with the apps and api's side in android
08:21 ashimema[m] hmm.. there might be a bug in bugzilla
08:22 magnuse yeah, i think there is
08:22 ashimema[m] the mailing list is a good place to ask.. it's pretty active
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08:22 magnuse bug 23641
08:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Checkout via camera on device
08:22 ashimema[m] and catches those people not online here at the minute
08:22 * ashimema[m] goes on the school run.. bbiab
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08:45 Dirar Hello, I am unable to connect koha to my ldap server, I am getting "LDAP search failed to return object : 000004DC: LdapErr: DSID-0C0907C2"
08:46 Dirar Here is my ldap config:
08:47 Dirar I almost tried all the available options, like changing auth_by_bind to 1 and changing  principal_name to dn also never worked.
08:47 Dirar I disabled memchached just in case without any luck. Any help is mostly appreciated, thanks
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13:02 oleonard Hi #koha
13:06 ashimema[m] quiet day today
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13:39 * oleonard bangs some pots and pans to make things sound busy
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14:06 oleonard ashimema[m]: Once something has been marked "Pushed to oldoldstable" what is the next step?
14:07 ashimema[m] RESOLVED FIXED
14:11 oleonard ashimema[m]: Do I remember correctly that there is some kind of automated process that's supposed to happen during releases which makes that change?
14:12 Joubu cait and/or rangi run an update status script, yes
14:13 ashimema[m] autorangi and autocait ;)
14:15 * oleonard wonders what he has to do to get himself an autoleonard to pick up the slack
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14:21 caroline_catlady good morning everyone!
14:23 paul_p caroline_catlady, good morning ? it's too late for a good morning. at least here :D
14:23 paul_p caroline_catlady, good morning caroline_catlady !
14:24 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady and paul_p
14:24 caroline_catlady it's always morning somewhere :)
14:25 paul_p caroline_catlady, did you convince eric to come to Marseille for the hackfest ? sunny tuesday here. Something like 16°C (way toooo hot for february)
14:25 caroline_catlady I don't think so :( but I think he meant to ask bouzid if he could come (he has two little children, so maybe not)
14:27 caroline_catlady anyway, I think I have a trining that week...
14:28 caroline_catlady *training
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14:31 oleonard caroline_catlady: bouzid can do the training
14:33 * magnuse will have to miss marseille this year :-(
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14:35 oleonard I hate forgetting I've tested a bug before (Bug 4461) because I assume it means my brain is turning to jelly
14:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Failed QA , Context-sensitive report a problem screen
14:35 ashimema[m] :(
14:36 oleonard To be fair it was three years ago
14:37 ashimema[m] hehe
14:37 ashimema[m] I often do that
14:38 ashimema[m] I also often go to report a bug.. find a bug there already and find I've fixed it already.. it's just been languishing
14:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8643: DBRev <[…]16d5508924b1b866b>
14:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8643: Code cleanup <[…]4c32453089bb5f963>
14:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14711: Change prototype for AddReserve - pass a hashref <[…]dcb124762a9ee0026>
14:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8643: Add important constraint to marc subfields <[…]d2cafc30dccdea332>
14:43 ashimema[m] go Jenkins go... :)
14:45 oleonard go autoashimema go
14:45 ashimema[m] lol
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15:11 cait semi-automated
15:11 cait oleonard: rangi turns of emails and I go wild with the batch edit features
15:12 cait resolved fixed for last reelase, closed fixed for older
15:12 cait or more RESOLVED * and CLOSED *
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15:12 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]asks#Bug_Clean_Up
15:14 * ashimema[m] wanted to automate more and clarify status's more
15:24 Joubu I submitted a PR for the dashboard:[…]merge_requests/99
15:24 Joubu there is a screenshot on it
15:25 Joubu the idea is to display the missing builds, for instance to highlight that D10 is not supported yet
15:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #674: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/674/
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15:30 cait it might get a little too wide, pushing the other content
15:31 cait maybe a different section? labelled clearly "yet unsupported" - not sure everybody will understand
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15:33 Joubu Only D10 is not supported, but the other 2 news are (D9 Mysql 8 and latest MariaDB)
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15:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #142: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/142/
15:50 fraktik thx ashimema, magnuse & oleonard for info. Will check it out and write some motivational e-mail to the conference.
15:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8643: Fix IsMarcStructureInternal tests <[…]5a3c873be558ae96c>
15:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #118: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/118/
16:01 fraktik I like this proposition, Joubu -  => I like wide tables, which are not just PR but have real guiding value in them!
16:03 fraktik I would appreciated this too - it's quite common question in conference and many times I am not sure of the stage of developement on new MariaDB version... Plus this could help to push those upgrades forward (my Piwik/Matomo is quite unhappy about how old db we use)...
16:05 reiveune bye
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16:35 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:35 wahanui Congratulations!
16:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #143: FIXED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/143/
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17:07 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:07 wahanui Congratulations!
17:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #675: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/675/
17:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #119: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/119/
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17:30 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:30 wahanui Congratulations!
17:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1135: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1135/
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18:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:02 wahanui Congratulations!
18:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #604: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/604/
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18:40 ashimema[m] :D
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20:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #51: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_U18/51/
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20:13 corilynn uh, I screwed up my git branch..
20:13 corilynn anyone out there who can bail me out of trouble?
20:18 hayley maybe.. what's your issue?
20:19 corilynn somehow I keep obsoleting my patches instead of rolling my changes into one patch?
20:19 corilynn Bug 24429
20:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24429 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Failed QA , Advanced editor - Add ability to generate an export file as cataloger saves
20:19 hayley how many commits do you need to attach?
20:20 corilynn there are three patches now, I just don't know why the old ones keep obsoleting
20:20 corilynn I think I don't understand the commands
20:20 hayley are you doing git bz attach -e bugnumber commitid/HEAD ?
20:21 hayley if you are doing with option -e, there will be a section that says obsoletes, and you should comment out the ones it is intending to obsolete if you don't want them gone
20:21 corilynn ok, i'm not doing the -e
20:21 hayley it may just be doing it automatically in that case
20:21 corilynn ah
20:21 hayley but you can control that by using -e :)
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20:22 corilynn ok, hopefully for next time... this document is the one I want to use right? : https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_bz_configuration
20:22 corilynn git bz attach -e xxxxx HEAD
20:22 corilynn not sure how I missed "-e"
20:23 hayley yep! :)
20:23 corilynn thx
20:23 hayley and HEAD can obviously be a different commit id if you have for example three patches to attach in  a certain order
20:23 hayley :)
20:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #54: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D9/54/
20:24 corilynn in the old days CVS was more buggy and less complicated ;)
20:32 * ashimema[m] should start using -e again.. I stopped years ago when it was buggy and haven't ever really started again..
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20:32 ashimema[m] I just bz attach then do anything fancy in bz itself
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20:49 mkstephens I'm stuck in a loop unable to rebase my local repo for testing. Is anyone available to help troubleshoot?
20:51 hayley maybe.. what is going wrong?
20:53 mkstephens I usually do git fetch, then git rebase origin/master before starting to test patches. When I do git fetch, it seems to fetch just fine. When I try to rebase, it gives me an error (will try to copy/paste)
20:54 mkstephens It's a lot of text, will summarize instead...
20:55 mkstephens error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by checkout:
20:55 mkstephens Then it lists 9 files and says they should be moved or removed
20:56 mkstephens I have tried removing them then git rebase again and get the following error...
20:56 hayley what are you rebasing for?
20:56 mkstephens error: unable to unlink old 'koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/pr​og/en/modules/pos/': Permission denied
20:56 hayley you should just need to git fetch, then checkout origin/master so it's clean for your testing
20:56 hayley you can't checkout a branch with working changes
20:57 mkstephens I have found that doing git fetch then git rebase is cleaner for the repo than a git pull
20:57 hayley so you need to remove them, or stash them
20:57 mkstephens I don't know where the working changes came from.
20:57 hayley you don't need to pull into an existing master branch, you can create a new master branch from origin/master
20:57 hayley then delete the old one later
20:58 hayley if you don't know where the working changes came from, probably best to reset to the HeAD
20:58 mkstephens I got the same error when I tried git checkout origin/master (9 files)
20:58 hayley something like git reset --hard HEAD
20:58 hayley try resetting to the head first perhaps?
20:59 mkstephens I just tried git reset --hard HEAD followed by git checkout and it gave me the same error.
20:59 hayley what do you see when you do git status
20:59 mkstephens How do I pull into a new master branch and delete the old one?
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21:00 mkstephens It says I'm behind by 130 commits and there are 9 untracked files
21:00 mkstephens on branch master, that is
21:00 hayley try git clean -f -d
21:00 hayley to remove untracked files
21:00 hayley then try checking out origin/master
21:02 mkstephens okay - I think that worked. It still said it couldn't unlink the old file (...../, but it seemed to go through anyway.
21:02 mkstephens It says I'm in a detached HEAD state
21:03 mkstephens this will be sufficient for Koha Testing Docker?
21:03 hayley probably best to have a branch, instead of just detached, by doing git checkout -b nameofbranch
21:03 hayley :)
21:04 ashimema[m] Sounds like you have done file permissions issues too to me
21:07 mkstephens I suppose that's possible, but I honestly don't know how it happened. Git status shows that koha-tmpl file ( as modified. I can't restore it because it says permission denied
21:08 mkstephens I just ran the command with sudo and that seemed to fix the permission denied
21:09 ashimema[m] Cool
21:09 ashimema[m] That often happens if you've mistakenly run git under sudo
21:10 ashimema[m] I've had that happen before
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21:11 mkstephens Now everything seems to be back to normal. Thank you hayley and ashimema[m]!
21:12 hayley not a problem! :)
21:18 corilynn it's like the git hotline around here :)
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21:20 ashimema[m] 😀
21:21 ashimema[m] Time for bed for me now.. have a good one koha friends
21:21 hayley you too!
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21:41 CrispyBran sup
21:42 caroline_catlady hey CrispyBran!
21:42 wahanui somebody said crispybran was so lost now.
21:42 caroline_catlady sorry to hear that...
21:43 CrispyBran So true.  Anyone know how the HINGS_RD is used or linked to records?
21:43 CrispyBran There are several HINGS in authorised values, and I am not sure how any of them are used.
21:44 caroline_catlady they are for holdings information
21:44 caroline_catlady but I think they are only in french?
21:44 caroline_catlady I'm not sure
21:45 CrispyBran Definitely not French.  I just can't find anything about them or if they are tied in to the record at all.
21:45 caroline_catlady[…]l#existing-values
21:46 caroline_catlady I was confusing it with ETAT
21:47 caroline_catlady I'm not sure it changes anything in Koha, but they are related to the Holdings version of MARC
21:47 CrispyBran Yeah.  The manual only shows the descriptions that are in av.  There is nothing beyond that though.
21:48 cait i think they were supposed to be used with marc somehow
21:50 cait General holdings: retention designator :: This data element specifies the retention policy for the unit at the time of the holdings report.
21:51 CrispyBran Ah...found it.  008
21:51 cait yeah i think so
21:51 cait just ended up there as well
21:51 cait but wonder if they are still in use somehow
21:52 caroline_catlady I've never seen holdings in Koha, only biblio and authorities
21:52 cait it can't be done righ tnow
21:52 cait but there is a patch from ere that would enable us to have holding records in Koha
21:54 cait they were alrady there in 3.2 when I started out...
21:54 cait hm
21:54 cait good night #koha
21:55 CrispyBran night
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23:23 bag irma++
23:23 bag BobB++
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