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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #87: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D9/87/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #87: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D8/87/ |
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rangi |
caroline_catlady: looks good to me |
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ednalyn |
Good Morning i just want to enquire about our Koha account |
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rangi |
Hi ednalyn, not sure what you mean about account? |
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ednalyn |
about how we can access all the lists of thew names of koha members in our library system |
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hayley |
hi ednalyn you can use the Reports module, here are some reports you can copy and paste to get the right information https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]L_Reports_Patrons |
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ednalyn |
Because someone before us made the account of Koha and right now were having a problem how can we access fully in Koha system |
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ednalyn |
what can we do as a librarian because we cannot fully access on the acount? like ecoding new list of names for Koha members |
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hayley |
to access all functions you need to have a user with superlibrarian permissions, if you have an admin user you may be able to assign permissions to a user to be able to access all functions |
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holi |
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ednalyn |
how we can have superlibrarian permissions,because someone before me is not here anymore |
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hi |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
~~~ |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hello, reiveune |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya cait |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, eythian |
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cait |
tcohen: if you have a second, could you weigh in on bug 15331? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15331 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Sort order breaks at offset=1000 (both OPAC and Intranet) |
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cait |
also ashimema[m] maybe? |
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ashimema[m] |
? |
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cait |
question about the default sort order limit with zebra |
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ashimema[m] |
ok.. will take a look in a moment |
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cait |
thx |
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kohaputti |
if we refactor something in C4::Reserves.pm to make things faster and easier to understand then that would required a new subroutine... Would it be okay in this case to add new one under C4? |
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kohaputti |
there was a sub called IsItemAvailable or something like that and it does way too many things inside one subroutine and it would benefit from splitting it to more easily understandable chunks |
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ashimema[m] |
I have no issue with that as a step towards more managable code.. anything that makes C4 clearer to aid the move to Koha:: isn't a bad idea in my book.. adding entirely new code in C4 without making clear it's a clarification step towards Koha:: isn't harder to justify |
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ashimema[m] |
I personally often do it in two steps like this.. clarify then move |
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ashimema[m] |
just remember to make sure it's thoroughly tested ;) |
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davidnind |
@later tell caroline_catlady Hoping to wake up before the documentation meeting, if I don't I will have slept through my alarm! :) (also, have made a couple of small changes to the agenda) |
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huginn` |
davidnind: The operation succeeded. |
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kohaputti |
ashimema[m], thanks |
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mtj |
kia ora #koha |
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mtj |
hey ashimema[m], i saw you mention debian 10 problems at the meeting today... |
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mtj |
...is there a brief list about, of what they are? |
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ashimema[m] |
I think that's part of the problem.. we've not really got a clear list as yet |
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ashimema[m] |
let me dig out the email chain.. Mirko and Fridolin were talking about it briefly |
| 10:59 |
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mtj |
np, i thought i would have a go at building a koha 19.11.01 package on deb 10 |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema[m] |
that would be awesome |
| 10:59 |
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mtj |
..and see what problems i hit |
| 11:00 |
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cait |
was Unaccent one? |
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ashimema[m] |
I expect a bunch of tests to fail once we have a package but I don't expect you to fix those.. my hope is that once we have a package that builds we can start running the tests on Jenkins and clean up the mess between us. |
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ashimema[m] |
Unaccent is certainly one I think |
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ashimema[m] |
as is Mojo and OpenAPI versions |
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ashimema[m] |
aha.. |
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mtj |
^ ah yep.. ive seen those 3 mentioned in various bugs |
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* ashimema[m] |
sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]cCQjczVxfUjuCuGfW > |
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ashimema[m] |
that was from fridolin to mirko back in september |
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* ashimema[m] |
sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]aQqXgyclqkEEzVTqG > |
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ashimema[m] |
so.. that's the last I heard from Mirko to be honest |
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fridolin |
i have not been on it since |
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ashimema[m] |
so.. I think that's some fairly fundamental things that need thinking about.. stuff I've not even pondered yet :( |
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ashimema[m] |
hi frido :) |
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fridolin |
i dont know packaging, i just now the issues ;) |
| 11:06 |
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ashimema[m] |
well.. that's certainly a starting place.. I haven't tried to build Koha on a D10 at all yet myself :( |
| 11:06 |
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ashimema[m] |
been meaning to fo ages |
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mtj |
i'll make a start on it, and see if i can work thru the problems as i hit them |
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cait |
mtj++ |
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ashimema[m] |
reach out as needed.. even if all some of us can offer is a rubber duck ;) |
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* ashimema[m] |
feels uplifted today.. thanks :) |
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mtj |
my pleasure :0) |
| 11:24 |
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mtj |
the current 19.11 package installs ok on deb10 (at least) |
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mtj |
^ the libref-util-perl / perl5.20 problem seems ok too |
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ashimema[m] |
interesting |
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ashimema[m] |
any comment there fridolin#? |
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ashimema[m] |
* any comment there fridolin? |
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mtj |
..on deb10, libref-util installs into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.28 (as expected?) |
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fridolin |
ashimema[m]: ah but is it OK for Ubuntu Bionic ? |
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fridolin |
it uses perl 5.26.1 |
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mtj |
pass on ubuntu... yet |
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mtj |
im really curious why bionic is missing a bunch of packages that exist in releases before *and* after it |
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mtj |
i think for bionic - we need to package the few missing bionic packages in the kc.org repo |
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kohaputti |
mtj, are you mirko? |
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ashimema[m] |
mirko is drojf kohaputti |
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mtj |
no no, im mason |
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mtj |
..from new zealand |
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kohaputti |
ok, I was hoping to ping drojf about bug 13193 (there is a request for a new debian package) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13193 critical, P3, ---, joonas.kylmala, ASSIGNED , Make Memcached usage fork safe |
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ashimema[m] |
mirko and mason have been out diligent package maintainers working as a team for the past few releases.. but mirko has gone awol the last few months and mason is being awesome and stepping up a bit :) |
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ashimema[m] |
yeah.. that's on the list too kohaputti ;) |
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kohaputti |
I have done few debian packages but it's really not something I'm passionate about soo hoping someone else finds it more interesting :) |
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mtj |
i'm happy to package it for the kc.org repo (to me, it seems to be the best way forward) |
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mtj |
..and then work on getting the package into debian proper |
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ashimema[m] |
:) |
| 11:48 |
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ashimema[m] |
if we can get the D10 builds running on the nightlies codename to start with.. then we can turn on Jenkins again for D10 and start working through the inevitable bugs :) |
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ashimema[m] |
to me, that's our first step |
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mtj |
sounds good, i'll finish off my d10 build |
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ashimema[m] |
thanks dude |
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mtj |
hmm, bionic seems to install koha 19.11.01 ok too |
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mtj |
the missing bionic packages *are* already included in the kc.org repo |
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ashimema[m] |
:) |
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eythian |
mtj: aloha |
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ashimema[m] |
we already have Bionic testing running on Jenkins.. |
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mtj |
hey eythian |
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ashimema[m] |
and we're not interested in Disco or Eoan I think (Only LTS Ubuntu's was our agreement way back when) |
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ashimema[m] |
ack.. Focal will be an LTS though.. 20.04... so we'll have this all over again with that |
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ashimema[m] |
assuming we continue to want to offer that patturn of support |
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* ashimema[m] |
heads out for a quick walk |
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mtj |
eythian: giz a ping when youre heading to HZ, im keen to catchup for a bier 🺠:0) |
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eythian |
mtj: sure thing :) |
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cait |
bier? :) |
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mtj |
bier/beer |
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cait |
just wondered if you wanted german beer specifically :) |
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mtj |
hmm, thats a delicious idea cait :p |
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BR_ |
Hi, I was chatting with members yesterday and my computer crashed. Is there an archive where i can check what was the last response from members to my last entry. |
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mtj |
ping fridolin: the libref-util-perl/perl-5.20 problem seems to only be on bionic (using the ubuntu package too) |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
BR_: http://irc.koha-community.org/ |
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BR_ |
thanks |
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mtj |
fridolin: does the perl-5.20 bug stop libref-util-perl from working? - or does it just install the files into an incorrect dir |
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fridolin |
mtj: indeed, its the pb of perl with compiled code |
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fridolin |
can we create libref-util-perl-5.2' ? and koha-perldeps-bionic ? |
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mtj |
hi frido, bug stop libref-util-perl from working? |
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mtj |
fridolin: i think a fix would be to add libref-util-perl (0.204-1) to kc.org repo |
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fridolin |
bug is that perl code is not activ since its not in PER5LIB |
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fridolin |
and compiled code is i think bad |
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fridolin |
libref-util-perl can be in kc.org repo but how do we provide both perl versions ? |
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mtj |
aah hmm, the problem is more complex than i thought.. |
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mtj |
..there are more pkgs with files in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20, in bionic |
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mtj |
fridolin: i think your koha-perldeps-bionic package would work well :0) |
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fridolin |
but we may create a package libref-util-perl-dev that launches the compilation |
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fridolin |
i dont know with solution is best |
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fridolin |
... or CPAN \o/ |
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mtj |
hmm, yeah.. not sure about that too |
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* mtj |
heads to bed - its late! ;) |
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oleonard |
I'll say mtj! |
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oleonard |
mtj++ |
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caroline_catlady |
good morning everyone! |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline_catlady |
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cait |
morning caroline_catlady, hi oleonard |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: are you awake? |
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cait |
oleonard: from your twitter mood... can I hell? |
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cait |
help! |
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oleonard |
Thanks cait! It's just, y'know.... 2020. |
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* oleonard |
gestures to everything |
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* oleonard |
sets his Bugzilla preferences back to that old comfy purple skin |
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cait |
oleonard: ah, that.. yeah |
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caroline_catlady |
ready for meeting? |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
no , but yes? |
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caroline_catlady |
#startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Thu Jan 9 14:01:11 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline_catlady. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_january_2020' |
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ashimema[m] |
ooh.. meeting :) |
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caroline_catlady |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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caroline_catlady |
please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes |
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ashimema[m] |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
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caroline_catlady |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
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Marie-Luce |
#info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro |
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georgew |
#George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind says he set his alarm but might not have woken up... :( |
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georgew |
#info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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caroline_catlady |
oh hi! |
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davidnind |
morning! |
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wahanui |
morning is always someone's afternoon |
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caroline_catlady |
#topic Review of action points |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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caroline_catlady |
#chair davidnind |
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huginn` |
Current chairs: caroline_catlady davidnind |
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caroline_catlady |
Ok so action point from last time |
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caroline_catlady |
review of documentation manager role |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tation_management |
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caroline_catlady |
anybody have comments on what was done? |
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davidnind |
looks good so far |
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* caroline_catlady |
realizes she hasn't sent a reminder of the meeting on the list like it's written on that page ... -_- |
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caroline_catlady |
will do better next time! |
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caroline_catlady |
Also Review of transition workflow |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]-manual/issues/13 |
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caroline_catlady |
there has been some more dwork done on this |
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caroline_catlady |
I branched 19.11 so we are effectively working on the 20.05 manual! |
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caroline_catlady |
hoping to get 19.11 up to date asap before the new features and enhacements start rolling in for 20.05 |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: you had a concern about the branching? |
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davidnind |
that's all good |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City - [mild cold] |
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caroline_catlady |
ok |
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* ashimema[m] |
should read the latest updates there.. will catch up |
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caroline_catlady |
Last action point Managing branches and back porting changes |
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davidnind |
got in the swing of back porting changes, so happy to do that if you would like |
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caroline_catlady |
Like I said, I branched 19.11, and I have been backporting commits as needed |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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caroline_catlady |
rangi said what I did was ok, so I'll try to document what I did for future reference |
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ashimema[m] |
++ |
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cait |
caroline_catlady++ |
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caroline_catlady |
#topic Project updates |
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Topic for #koha is now Project updates (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ists_and_projects |
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caroline_catlady |
anybody have updates on projects they have been working on? |
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thd |
I am back in New York where I can work on Koha instead of cleaning ceiling's etc. for my mother in California. |
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caroline_catlady |
hehe! |
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davidnind |
nothing to add from me (did nothing over the xmas break :-() |
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* cait |
was lazy too |
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caroline_catlady |
alright so we'll see next time |
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caroline_catlady |
#topic What's been done so far |
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Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: has been doing some maintenance work |
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caroline_catlady |
with bernardo |
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ashimema[m] |
:) |
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caroline_catlady |
lucyvh has been doing several changes from 18.11, thanks for catching us up! |
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davidnind |
lucyvh++ |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema[m] has the trophy for first commit to 19.11 :) add EDI LRP support to stock rotation |
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cait |
so happy to see all the updates! |
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caroline_catlady |
and AndyBoze has the trophy for first commit to 20.05 and it's his first contribution! |
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caroline_catlady |
We also have another first contributor : Alexander Borkowski (not sure what is the irc handle) |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema[m]++ lucyvh++ AndyBoze++ everyone++ :D |
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ashimema[m] |
hehe.. i wrote that submission months ago when i wrote the code :) |
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would encourage devs to try to do the same. |
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ashimema[m] |
awesome to see new contributors too :) |
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ashimema[m] |
woop, woop |
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cait |
woop! |
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caroline_catlady |
yes! yay! |
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caroline_catlady |
awesome everyone! |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady has been adding all the tasks to taiga, and a bit of a flurry of changes in the last week by Holly |
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lucyvh |
Apologies, lost track of time! |
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caroline_catlady |
right! I merged them and totally forgot to mention it :) |
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lucyvh |
Hi everyone |
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caroline_catlady |
hi lucyvh! we were just ++ing you for your great work :) |
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davidnind |
hi lucyvh! |
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caroline_catlady |
#topic Content development guidelines |
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Topic for #koha is now Content development guidelines (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind has been working on this |
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caroline_catlady |
New section on commit messages |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]n#Commit_messages |
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caroline_catlady |
(though I don't think we will not refuse commits if they don't have this formar) |
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caroline_catlady |
also more info on how to write links |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_and_Tricks#Links |
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caroline_catlady |
words to use instead of others |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Word_usage_-_A-Z |
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caroline_catlady |
for example use staff clinet instead of intranet, etc... |
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caroline_catlady |
*client |
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cait |
wow, very cool |
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ashimema[m] |
awesome work |
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cait |
consistent use of words is helpful for translations as well |
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cait |
although one could argue that we don't have a client |
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cait |
in technical terms |
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lucyvh |
Its so useful to have all this written up somewhere - amazing work! |
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caroline_catlady |
I agree, but that's in the Koha terminology... |
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cait |
oh i see |
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caroline_catlady |
Personnaly, I would prefer staff interface |
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cait |
same :) |
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cait |
we use the literal translation fo that in German |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology |
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davidnind |
I've got a few more, but started with a couple (staff client was from the current terminology list at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology) |
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cait |
so maybe we shoudl rethink that there than if we want to change |
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caroline_catlady |
is it used a lot in the code of Koha? |
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davidnind |
do we want to change it? I prefer staff interface myself |
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caroline_catlady |
Ok, so we'll change it for the documentation |
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lucyvh |
+1 for staff interface |
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davidnind |
I think I've seen all of them used so far in the manual |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema[m]: you can decide what you want to do in Koha's code itself |
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ashimema[m] |
code wise we say 'intranet'.. but that all hidden to end users in reality |
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oleonard |
My quick search only turns up one use of "staff client" in the templates |
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cait |
i think there is everything in the gui now |
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ashimema[m] |
terms wise I'm happy with 'staff interface' as the standard |
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thd |
Even if "X client" may be technically correct in terms of function. People in the general population at least may relate better to "interface". |
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cait |
so not too late to change :) |
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caroline_catlady |
ok davidnind can you change the wiki page? |
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ashimema[m] |
I think it's most likely to come up allot in the manual but very rarely be a term we use in koha itself |
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cait |
i think probably in the prefs most |
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davidnind |
I will! |
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oleonard |
Switching from "intranet" to "staff client" was an improvement but also an arbitrary decision. |
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cait |
but t would be an easy clean-up job |
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ashimema[m] |
coolios |
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cait |
oleonard: are you ok too with staff interface? |
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caroline_catlady |
#action davidnind will change the manual terminology from staff client to staff interface |
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cait |
so maybe we should change both pages |
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oleonard |
I imagine that support companies might have standardized on "staff client" in their web sites and documentation? |
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oleonard |
Something to check on. |
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oleonard |
Otherwise I like staff interface. |
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caroline_catlady |
we use intranet or staff interface in our local docs |
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cait |
quickly checking bywater for some samples |
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davidnind |
as the terminology page is part of the development guide, should we raise at development meeting as well? |
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caroline_catlady |
#action caroline will add a task to change the terms in the manual |
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georgew |
I hear staff client, staff interface, and intranet from ByWater all the time. It depends on who you're talking to. |
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cait |
hm couldn#t turn up an example yet |
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oleonard |
ByWater can patch those humans' operating systems in a snap right? |
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lucyvh |
We use all those variations times also at PTFS |
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georgew |
I'm sure they'd like to |
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georgew |
It varies in the documentation I've seen from them to |
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cait |
thx georgew |
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georgew |
And it changes overtime |
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caroline_catlady |
so there isn't a standard, but for the manual, we want it to be consistent |
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caroline_catlady |
I will be an easy task for a newbie to commit |
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caroline_catlady |
we're also thinking of adding a glossary to the manual to help ppl who are coming from other systems |
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caroline_catlady |
I started one on a local branch |
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caroline_catlady |
I will commit it soon, but I'm not sure how to make it show up in the table of contents |
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caroline_catlady |
is it automatic? |
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davidnind |
the glossary is autogenerated I think |
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caroline_catlady |
is it? |
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cait |
caroline_catlady: i think it's automatic yes |
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cait |
hm would it be top level new file? |
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caroline_catlady |
that's wahat I was thinking |
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caroline_catlady |
so it could go at the end |
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cait |
let me quickly check |
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pastebot |
"caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "here's what an entry looks like in my file" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18771 |
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caroline_catlady |
the "see" is "instead of term 1, use term 2 |
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caroline_catlady |
so in my example, loan will refer to checkout |
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cait |
i thought it was source/index.rst |
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davidnind |
the terms show up in the index, there is a link to that at the top and bottom of each manual page |
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cait |
ah it is: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/source/index.rst |
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cait |
gitlab does some rendering that makes some not show, but you can see it in raw |
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cait |
you just sort your new file in there |
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caroline_catlady |
ok thanks cait |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: I found the index list, but it's empty |
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cait |
i thin it just looks like it on gitlab - did you try 'raw'? |
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cait |
or edit, if you are logge din |
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davidnind |
that's because there areno entries yet |
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caroline_catlady |
https://koha-community.org/man[…]tml/genindex.html |
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caroline_catlady |
ok so when I add my file, it will populate this? |
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davidnind |
should do, I think it did when I tested |
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caroline_catlady |
ok cool! |
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caroline_catlady |
#topic Next steps |
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Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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caroline_catlady |
I wanted to talk about priorities |
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cait |
oh, different file! |
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caroline_catlady |
I'd really like to catch up 19.11 so that when the devs start to add new stuff to 20.05 we can stay on top |
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ashimema[m] |
+1 |
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caroline_catlady |
so priority #1 is anything in 19.11 on Taiga |
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cait |
should we note versions in commit messages? |
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caroline_catlady |
I started adding "new feature", "enhancement" and "screenshot" tags in taiga, and that is the prioriuty order too (new features, then enhancements, then screenshots) |
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ashimema[m] |
probably a good idea |
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caroline_catlady |
write the version number in the commit message or the commit comment |
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davidnind |
I think adding it to the merge request would be better, e.g. this was added in 19.05, etc |
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caroline_catlady |
as long as it's written somewhere |
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caroline_catlady |
There are some interesting agenda points still to cover, but I think we on't have enough time |
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caroline_catlady |
is it ok if we move these to the next meeting? |
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davidnind |
that's fine with me |
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ashimema[m] |
me too |
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caroline_catlady |
ok good! |
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cait |
yes |
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caroline_catlady |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) |
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caroline_catlady |
feb 6? 20UTC? |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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davidnind |
hope it's not too late for everyone else... |
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thd |
+1 |
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ashimema[m] |
1 |
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lucyvh |
+1 |
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caroline_catlady |
#info Next meeting: 6 February 2020, 20 UTC |
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caroline_catlady |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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Meeting ended Thu Jan 9 14:53:25 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-01-09-14.01.html |
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caroline_catlady |
thanks everyone! |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady++ |
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lucyvh |
Thanks all |
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oleonard |
caroline_catlady++ |
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davidnind |
(I borrowed the format for the word usage list from the IBM Style Guide https://www.oreilly.com/librar[…]e/9780132118989/) |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema[m]: can you run the script that adds the minutes and things to the meeting wiki page? |
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thd |
Putting my cold back to sleep before I have to go to work. |
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caroline_catlady |
I find the email subject "Warning about patron relationship problems" incredibly funny... Like "oh those two aren't together anymore, he never did the dishes" |
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ashimema[m] |
lol |
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ashimema[m] |
and I've run the meeting script now |
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caroline_catlady |
thx! |
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oleonard |
caroline_catlady: I have a feeling there are library patrons about whom librarians would like to use that message |
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wizzyrea |
bahaha |
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caroline_catlady |
is there a bug to remane the "news" tool now that it's not only for news? |
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oleonard |
Not that I've seen caroline_catlady |
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caroline_catlady |
Added Bug 24387 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Rename News tool |
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caroline_catlady |
probably easy enuogh to change |
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oleonard |
caroline_catlady is drunk with power after renaming the staff client |
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caroline_catlady |
lol!! |
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News from kohagit: Bug 18731: (QA follow-up) Spelling and POD corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52f8da3411d0c1c87> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Use the stashed koha.embed in objects.search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]abc6fb65a656bd3de> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Add API mappings to K::A::{Basket,Invoice} <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d444aec6fe69d9147> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Make authenticate_api_request stash the embed structure <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a651f767b71dd0701> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0f022a086ea78432e> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 18731: OpenAPI definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38ddb587f67c5a617> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 18731: /acquisitions/orders endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2af9bb7bac569f87a> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 24257: Fix close of modal on 'Yes, print slip' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]892dcaa63b7d7a9a5> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 24255: Add summation methods to Koha::Account::Lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6b1dc638aa062768> |
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ashimema[m] |
funny.. I was going to say can we rename the news tool :) |
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ashimema[m] |
thanks for reporting it caroline_catlady |
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News from kohagit: Bug 21959: Add sponsor details <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cbef242f7beb58d37> |
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reiveune |
bye |
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is pleased to see the release note already starting to fill up nicely for 20.05 🙂 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_19_12_00.md |
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caroline_catlady |
question: the BarcodeSeparators syspref, does it affect the barcode files or the barcodes you enter in the box? |
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caroline_catlady |
it's not clear in the bug description bug 22996 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22996 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Move barcode separators to a preference |
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caroline_catlady |
and other related question do we have to espace all the characters we put in there? it only says to escape the hyphen, but shouldn't the dot be escaped too? |
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oleonard |
Anyone know if there is a way to add multiple patrons to a club at once? |
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oleonard |
khall? ^^ |
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khall |
oleonard I'm afraid not |
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khall |
a batch tool would be nice though |
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oleonard |
Okay I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing it |
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* oleonard |
learns about the UseCashRegisters preference |
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cait |
how is it? |
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oleonard |
We're still getting to know each other |
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oleonard |
See y'all tomorrow! |
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wizzyrea |
oh bugger he left 4 mins ago. |
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caroline_catlady |
what does making a cash register "default" do? |
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caroline_catlady |
I added several cash registers to the same library and made one of them default, but when I go to pay a fee, it's the first alphabetically that is selected by default |
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caroline_catlady |
not sure what else 'Make default' could mean |
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caroline_catlady |
oh nevermind, I hadn't saved, hehe |
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ashimema[m] |
Hehe |
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ashimema[m] |
Did I not add documentation for cash registers yet..? |
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ashimema[m] |
Oleonard, there's a team by piece missing from the cash registers stuff.. I'm looking to add a follow-up bug ton over it. It works better if you define a payment_type with the code 'CASH'.. seems it got lost during rebases.. |
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ashimema[m] |
Just thought I'de give you the heads uo |
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caroline_catlady |
I didn't see it... |
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caroline_catlady |
I hope I didn't just do this in double |
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ashimema[m] |
Not surprised if it's missed it.. |
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ashimema[m] |
I'm behind on my own documentation.. |
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* ashimema[m] |
is bad at following his own rules.. |
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ashimema[m] |
Thanks Caroline 😀 |
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caroline_catlady |
Do we have strong opinions about the permissions being all divided up in sub sections? https://koha-community.org/man[…]rmissions-defined |
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caroline_catlady |
Would it make it too long if we did just one long subsection with all the permissions? |
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caroline_catlady |
cait? |
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wahanui |
i think cait is qa manager |
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caroline_catlady |
I think you're right wahanui |
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hayley |
hehe |
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cait |
huh? :) |
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cait |
no ;) |
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cait |
maybe even a table? |
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cait |
could make it shorter |
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caroline_catlady |
tables are hard to manage in rst i find |
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caroline_catlady |
unless I'm just not doing it right |
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cait |
no you are probably right |
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ashimema[m] |
https://thomas-cokelaer.info/t[…]v-table-directive |
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ashimema[m] |
Csv-table looks fairly simple? |
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caroline_catlady |
oh cool! looks much easier! |
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caroline_catlady |
I'm used to the ones that look like sql |
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caroline_catlady |
if you write something longer, you have to change all the other lines... ugh |
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hi there |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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waves |
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