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kattekrab |
Kia Ora Koha friends! |
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kattekrab |
is KohaCon on topic here? |
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kattekrab |
I'm looking for sponsorship info |
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kattekrab |
https://2020.kohacon.org/posts/sponsors/ . <== this says "Sponsorship options will be announced in September 2019." |
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rangi |
yeah we are running behind, we'll catch up tho |
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rangi |
but if you wanted to drop an email to kohacon2020 catalyst.net.nz it'll go to the right people |
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rangi |
and hi :) |
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ashimema |
Mornin' #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora ashimema |
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ashimema |
@later tell rangi thanks for the update on bz colouring. |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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kohaputti |
kidclamp, any chance you could rebase Bug 22828 ? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch - display errors encountered during indexing on the command line |
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* cait |
waves |
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* cait |
is not here :P |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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ashimema |
mornin' cait |
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ashimema |
kidclamp likely won't be around for another hour or two kohaputti |
| 10:11 |
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ashimema |
you might be better leaving him a 'later' |
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ashimema |
@later tell kidclamp kohaputtu was asking if you might get a chance to rebase bug 22828 |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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kohaputti |
thanks |
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* ashimema |
left later for you.. anyone can leave them.. they're a useful tool in irc land :) |
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cait |
mornin all (or almost lunch time for some?) |
| 10:13 |
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ashimema |
this prices bug is scaring me more and more.. |
| 10:13 |
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ashimema |
I'm seriously contemplating reverting it.. :( |
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cait |
i was ont sure about it either |
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cait |
but i should probably have come back to it |
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ashimema |
kidclamp pursuaded me.. and I could understand the reasoning.. |
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ashimema |
but.. the failing tests worry me.. the more I dig the more confusing I find the code |
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magnuse |
tiffin-time! |
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cait |
tiffins? |
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cait |
tiffins! |
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kidclamp |
where is the JS you tlak about @ashimema ? |
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kidclamp |
all set kohaputti |
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ashimema |
addorderempty |
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* cait |
realizes she confused tiffin and puffin |
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ashimema |
tiffin is tasty |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
who knows... puffins might as well, but the way they look I couldn't eat one |
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kohaputti |
kidclamp, thanks a lot! |
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ashimema |
Will catch you in a moment properly kidclamp |
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ashimema |
Sorry, having computer issues.. a fan just died on me so I've been quickly grabbing a spare to mount |
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cait |
ouch |
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ashimema |
right.. I'm back properly now.. |
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ashimema |
hankfully I had a few fans sitting in a drawer. |
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Joubu |
ashimema: any plans for bug 23945? |
| 11:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23945 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , koha-remove does not support older mysql and mariadb |
| 11:33 |
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cait |
huh |
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cait |
why is that mine? |
| 11:33 |
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ashimema |
I'm stuck.. not sure what to do there |
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* cait |
just removed her as assignee |
| 11:33 |
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cait |
herself |
| 11:33 |
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ashimema |
'cause at the time you were the one being hugely keen to support every DB ;) |
| 11:33 |
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ashimema |
feel free to unassign it |
| 11:34 |
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ashimema |
basically as it stands.. if we take the simple approach we either break newer mysql and mariadb or we break older mysql/mariadb |
| 11:34 |
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cait |
ashimema: that's not quite my stance on things |
| 11:34 |
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ashimema |
we can't support both without introducing checks on sql server versions and applying the right statement on a per db basis |
| 11:35 |
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cait |
my stance is don't use features that are different between dbms |
| 11:35 |
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ashimema |
which will get costly and painful fast in my opinion. |
| 11:35 |
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ashimema |
so.. don't use constraints |
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cait |
and stick to what we had agreed on a longer whie ago - work towards being db agnostic |
| 11:35 |
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ashimema |
don't allow people to koha-remove ;) |
| 11:35 |
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cait |
which seemed to be the whole point of getting rid of SQL everywhere and sing DBIX |
| 11:35 |
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* ashimema |
goes for tea again |
| 11:35 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
sorry |
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* cait |
has a big pot of tea here... it helps |
| 11:37 |
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cait |
khall_: around? |
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khall_ |
what's up cait ? |
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cait |
I've been trying to pass QA on bug 22630, but I got stuck on the behaviour of the edit items in course reserves |
| 11:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, BLOCKED , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
bug 23727 |
| 11:38 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23727 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing course reserve items is broken |
| 11:39 |
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cait |
it looks like when you edit a course reserve item after adding it initially the changes just won't show/stick |
| 11:40 |
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ashimema |
ouch |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
it's kind of confusing... because you change a value, and it claims 'unchanged' when you edit again and also in the summary table... |
| 11:41 |
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ashimema |
what are your thought on DB Joubu.. |
| 11:41 |
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ashimema |
bit the bullet and start writing DB specific code for each DB we claim to support? |
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cait |
khall: still there? I realize my test plan might be abit confusing too... |
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Joubu |
ashimema: I do not know... |
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Joubu |
I would deal with the 2 different syntaxes |
| 11:48 |
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khall |
cait reading... |
| 11:52 |
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khall |
cait does that happen with any of the existing fields? Adding homebranch should be a mattter of copy and paste for the most part. I'd be happy to take over qa and give it a thorough review if you wish! |
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* ashimema |
just went downstairs to get his brewed tea and found that he'd forgotten to poor the boiling water into the cup 👿 |
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cait |
khall: doesn't have a patch yet |
| 11:53 |
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cait |
i just didn't want to add new featues, without fixing the bug tbh |
| 11:53 |
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cait |
or what i think is a bug |
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cait |
khall: when you don't change anything adding an item to a course reserce- the table says unchanged |
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cait |
then edit - change all the things - it still says unchanged |
| 11:53 |
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khall |
cait are you referring to "Bug 22630 - Allow to change homebranch in course reserves"? |
| 11:53 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, BLOCKED , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves |
| 11:54 |
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cait |
yep that was the bug that led me to testing |
| 11:54 |
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cait |
hm |
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khall |
cait yeah, if you opt to *not* set a field value for when the item is on reserve "Unchanged" is meant to indicate that is the actual item value and will remain the same when it is on reserve |
| 11:55 |
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cait |
ok: add item to course reserve - edit item: change current branach - remove from course reserve: the holding branch doesn't change back |
| 11:55 |
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cait |
khall: the problem is with the edit feature |
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cait |
the edit button in course reserves |
| 11:56 |
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cait |
if you change anything there it does weird things |
| 11:57 |
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cait |
it will make permanent changes to the items |
| 11:58 |
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cait |
sorry, not sure how to explain that better, I tihnk best would be to give it a quick test |
| 12:01 |
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khall |
cait I think I understand now. And this is behavior you are seeing in master? |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
yes |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
i just retestet |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
retested even |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
put an item with holding branch union - changed it using the edit button in course reserves to centerville... removed from course reserves... remains centerville |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
applies to the other fields too i think |
| 12:03 |
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khall |
cait I'll test that now... |
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cait |
thx |
| 12:06 |
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cait |
next meetings? |
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wahanui |
i guess next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 12:13 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23068: (RM follow-up) Make Net::Netmask required <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]376cdcd24cd52e67a> |
| 12:14 |
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khall |
cait try as I might I can't seem to replicate what you are seeing. Can you make a screencast? If you would like, I can make a screencast of what I'm doing |
| 12:15 |
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cait |
i think i can't make one - but can look at yours of course |
| 12:18 |
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cait |
trying to spot the difference |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D10 build #80: STILL FAILING in 4 min 45 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D10/80/ |
| 12:21 |
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cait |
khall: i am making screesnhots to explain right now... ping me when you are faster? |
| 12:24 |
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khall |
cait sounds good |
| 12:29 |
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khall |
cait: I think I recreated it! Can you watch the last part of this screencast? https://monosnap.com/file/9gIt[…]XiOwfJgBajIvwkJFf |
| 12:29 |
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khall |
let me know if that's what you are referring to |
| 12:31 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23523: (follow-up) Clarify meaning configurations in tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]573fc732644582877> |
| 12:31 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23523: (follow-up) Adjust tests for new expectations <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d07747d33006b427> |
| 12:31 |
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cait |
khall: pdf attached to bug report: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23727 |
| 12:31 |
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huginn |
Bug 23727: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing course reserve items is broken |
| 12:32 |
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cait |
watching the screencast now |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
| 12:34 |
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cait |
khall: i think what you have is another thing... removing from inactive? |
| 12:34 |
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khall |
cait yep, it seems we have *two* bugs no :\ |
| 12:34 |
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khall |
s/no/now |
| 12:34 |
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cait |
that was not the expected outcome |
| 12:34 |
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cait |
can you make sense of the screenshots? |
| 12:35 |
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cait |
the clue for me is really using the 'edit' button on the course reserves page for the item |
| 12:35 |
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cait |
maybe it's not updating the course reserves table there.. i haven't checked yet from database side |
| 12:39 |
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cait |
oops |
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* magnuse |
ate puffin once, in the faroe islands. tastes sort of like an ocean-grouse |
| 12:46 |
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cait |
so you had ocean-grouse too (looks it up) |
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magnuse |
nah, more "it tastes like what i think a grouse that lived in/near the ocean would taste like" :-) |
| 12:54 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #984: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/984/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #516: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/516/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #454: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/454/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D10 build #81: STILL FAILING in 6 min 8 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D10/81/ |
| 13:02 |
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marcelr |
dev meeting planned ? |
| 13:02 |
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cait |
yep i think 2 minutes ago |
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cait |
ashimema: ? |
| 13:03 |
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ashimema |
ack.. got me timezone wrong |
| 13:03 |
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ashimema |
okies |
| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Nov 6 13:04:01 2019 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:04 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 13:04 |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_6_november_2019' |
| 13:04 |
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thd |
My timezone is asleep. |
| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
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magnuse |
#info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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marcelr |
#info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum. Netherlands |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 13:04 |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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fridolin |
#info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_6_November_2019 Agenda |
| 13:05 |
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ashimema |
thanks cait.. I was just digging that one out :) |
| 13:06 |
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ashimema |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
| 13:07 |
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ashimema |
#info We have now been in Feature Slush for the 19.11 release for a week and will be progressing to Feature Freeze as of this evening (UK time) |
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ashimema |
#info Feature Freeze means we will only be considering bugfixes for the release past tonight, if you're enhancement isn't already pushed by the end of today it will not be pushed this cycle. |
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ashimema |
fridolin, did you want to update us on October releases here or as part of rmaint updates? |
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thd |
Binary data storage mode for Koha Wiki database migration from Postgres to MySQL now conquered for building the database structure. Debian old version time machine used. |
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thd |
Currently writing a perl script to run it all. |
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fridolin |
yep ashimema |
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ashimema |
#topic Updates from the release manager |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the release manager (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
| 13:10 |
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ashimema |
oops.. |
| 13:10 |
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fridolin |
so you first |
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fridolin |
i'l tell in RMaint topic |
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ashimema |
#info The last few weeks the pace has picked up and allot has been pushed |
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ashimema |
#info I am concentrating on any last straggler enhancements untill the end of the day and then will switch fully to bugs only tomorrow. |
| 13:11 |
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ashimema |
#topic Update from the release maintainers |
| 13:11 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the release maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
| 13:12 |
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ashimema |
all yours ;) |
| 13:12 |
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fridolin |
because of having work load i could not find time to release in end Octobre |
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fridolin |
so its a bit to late |
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fridolin |
i will work on a big novembre release |
| 13:13 |
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fridolin |
so its well stable before 19.11 |
| 13:13 |
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fridolin |
maybe its last release for 18.05.x |
| 13:13 |
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cait |
i noticed there are still quite a few bugs for 18.11 |
| 13:14 |
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ashimema |
#info Work commitments for our stable branch rmaint have lead to no release during October. |
| 13:14 |
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fridolin |
cait: oki dont hesitate to mail Rmaint to list them |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
I've left notes where I backported fixes to our 18.11 branches |
| 13:14 |
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ashimema |
#info Focusing on a well polished November release now instead. |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
that#s the question - is it enough to leave comment/cc you on the bug or better to email? |
| 13:14 |
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ashimema |
have you used any form of keywords cait? |
| 13:14 |
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fridolin |
i'd say email is better |
| 13:14 |
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cait |
bug 23713 was an example |
| 13:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23713 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Subscription add form broken for translations |
| 13:15 |
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fridolin |
or indeed if bugzilla search makes it |
| 13:15 |
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ashimema |
also, I've spotted a few bugs that should perhaps not have been backported recently.. more oldstable and oldoldstable than stable |
| 13:15 |
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fridolin |
i will look at all Major/blocker in priority |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
it's been in master for a month - I assumed you would go through the major ones |
| 13:15 |
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Joubu |
fridolin: a big last release could have bugs :) |
| 13:15 |
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Joubu |
last big* |
| 13:16 |
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cait |
fridolin: it's hard to tell where you stopped - I don't want to spam mail you :) |
| 13:16 |
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ashimema |
I don't think 18.05 (oldoldstable) will be an especially big release.. it's already pretty stable I believe |
| 13:16 |
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cait |
oh thought we were talking 19.05 |
| 13:17 |
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ashimema |
frido is talking 19.05.. but I thought Joubu was talking 18.05 when highlights a fear for bugs in a last release |
| 13:18 |
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fridolin |
we speak about all (xxx)stable branches |
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cait |
19.05 wil still be continued Ithink, so just the last relase for frido? |
| 13:18 |
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cait |
we might all be confusing each other :) |
| 13:18 |
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fridolin |
yep for 18.05.x its up to the RMaint, i'd say "as stable as possible" last release ;) |
| 13:18 |
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ashimema |
yup |
| 13:19 |
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fridolin |
indeed id like to quit Rmaint for next cycle, to be able to focus on other points |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
speaking of which... we still need rmaints for 19.11 and 18.11 for next cycle |
| 13:21 |
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ashimema |
you've done an awesome job as rmaint these last years fridolin.. I'd personally like to thankyou for your support when I stepping in to learn the rmaint process before becoming rm :) |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
:) |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
fridolin++ |
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marcelr |
fridolin++ |
| 13:21 |
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fridolin |
oh thanks a lot, it was a pleasure to serve the community :D |
| 13:22 |
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fridolin |
<< be my guest >> |
| 13:22 |
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ashimema |
#info fridolin will be stepping down from the rmaint roles come the 20.05 cycle. I wanted to thank him for his efforts as various rmaint roles the past years and personally thank him for his support onboarding me when I became an rmaint. |
| 13:22 |
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ashimema |
#info a big hole to fill, we still need volunteers for rmaint of 19.11 and 18.11 for the 20.05 cycle :) |
| 13:22 |
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fridolin |
for next cycle we are talking at biblibre to find someone for 18.11 |
| 13:23 |
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ashimema |
:) |
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fridolin |
but if someone/some company could step into 19.11.x it whould be great to have fresh bloud |
| 13:24 |
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ashimema |
I worry about 19.11.. the stable rmaint role has it's own additional challenges.. it's good to have someone with a bit more experience in that position I feel |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
also needs to stay close to give the others time to catch up |
| 13:24 |
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ashimema |
I will happily support them of course, whoever it may end up being. |
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cait |
(close to what is pushed to master) |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
shall we move on.. |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
| 13:25 |
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fridolin |
i think im ok |
| 13:26 |
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marcelr |
may i shortly mention the discussion about Objects->find in list context ? |
| 13:27 |
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cait |
sure |
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cait |
go ahead |
| 13:27 |
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ashimema |
fire away |
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marcelr |
no just mentioning it, go to the report if interested |
| 13:27 |
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marcelr |
maybe Joubu especially |
| 13:27 |
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marcelr |
because he added the croak for list context |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
can we get the bug number or an info? |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
and for hte logs :) |
| 13:28 |
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ashimema |
how about I add it as a topic in the next 'general discussion' section ;) |
| 13:28 |
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marcelr |
bug 19809 |
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koha-jenkins |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Koha::Objects::find calls do not need to be forbidden in list context |
| 13:29 |
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cait |
#info Please take a look at the discussion on bug 19809 about use of Koha::Objects::find calls in list context |
| 13:29 |
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marcelr |
and what about the confusion on the check constraint ? sorry ashimema |
| 13:30 |
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ashimema |
the check constraints have just been outright removed entirely now |
| 13:30 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: answered few minutes ago |
| 13:30 |
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ashimema |
I have a topic in the next section to discuss sql etc |
| 13:30 |
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marcelr |
Joubu++ so fast |
| 13:31 |
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marcelr |
ok ashimema |
| 13:31 |
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wahanui |
ashimema is the benevolent dictator |
| 13:31 |
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ashimema |
any general qa updates cait? |
| 13:32 |
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cait |
a lot of the bad bugs have started moving... so that makes me happy, but it's like to see the number go down |
| 13:32 |
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cait |
if you search in bugzilla, we have logged 120 blocker, major and critical |
| 13:33 |
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cait |
the dashboard only lists the ones until filed 30 days ago... I'd really like to see people go thorugh those in the bug fixing period to come |
| 13:33 |
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cait |
maybe not all of them are major, but some triaging would certainly be good |
| 13:34 |
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ashimema |
I intend to do a bit of a triage run over the coming days |
| 13:34 |
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Joubu |
I can increase this number, but the idea was to increase little by little |
| 13:34 |
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cait |
yep, hasn't worked :) |
| 13:34 |
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ashimema |
but would greatly appreciate help.. that's allot of bugs ;) |
| 13:34 |
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cait |
not sure more on the dashboard will help, the numbers there have been high this release too |
| 13:34 |
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cait |
maybe clean up the queue first and see what we end up with |
| 13:35 |
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Joubu |
maybe something like: display all blockers and criticals, then display majors for the last 30 days |
| 13:35 |
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cait |
it's also often missed still the line is a link |
| 13:35 |
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cait |
maybe it should be green |
| 13:35 |
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ashimema |
#info Lots of 'Major' and 'Critical' bugs still in the queue, please focus on those |
| 13:35 |
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cait |
like the othe rlinks |
| 13:35 |
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cait |
or have a little arrow at the end |
| 13:35 |
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Joubu |
we are waiting for rangi to apply it in production |
| 13:35 |
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marcelr |
do we have Major inflation ? |
| 13:35 |
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Joubu |
PR has been merged |
| 13:35 |
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ashimema |
I did do a patch to make it green.. but when i looked at the code in detail it had deliberately been overriden back to black |
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| 13:36 |
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ashimema |
I think perhaps class it as a button or something to make it clear it's clickable rather than a link |
| 13:36 |
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Joubu |
ha, I think it was merged! |
| 13:36 |
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cait |
the mouse curse changes when you move over it, but I tink people just don't get the idea they can |
| 13:37 |
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ashimema |
oops.. well there's still a !important css rule which overrides my css change which i didn't spot when testing locally |
| 13:37 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 13:37 |
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cait |
make it an #action? ;) |
| 13:37 |
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eythian |
mouse curse |
| 13:37 |
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cait |
#info About 120 open bugs for major, critical and blocker on bugzilla - help in review appreciated |
| 13:38 |
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ashimema |
#action Update 'Overall bug tracker health' link on the dashboard to be more clearly a link |
| 13:38 |
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ashimema |
next topic |
| 13:38 |
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ashimema |
#topic General development discussion |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
| 13:39 |
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ashimema |
#topic Dropping support for Debian Jessie |
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Topic for #koha is now Dropping support for Debian Jessie (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
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ashimema |
Right... D8 officially goes end of life come July 2020 |
| 13:39 |
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ashimema |
but, we're already introducing things that break our support for Jessie |
| 13:40 |
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ashimema |
bug 22128 as an example.. it breaks our support already and has been backported a long way.. |
| 13:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22128 normal, P5 - low, ---, rudolfbyker, RESOLVED FIXED, koha-remove fails mysql ERROR 1133 (42000) at line 2: Can't find any matching row in the user table |
| 13:40 |
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marcelr |
thats an implicit drop |
| 13:41 |
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ashimema |
I would like to propose that startig with the 20.05 cycle we drop development support for D8, but attampt to continue support in oldoldstable and oldstable (and stable.. any thoughts) untill the release of 20.05 at least |
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marcelr |
commit msg: "all users should have it by now" .. |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
then probably drop our support officially entirely at that point (although it should continue to function for a little while) |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
yeah. we missed the 5.5 beign default in D8 still |
| 13:42 |
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marcelr |
maybe we should be more clear about the associated sql versions |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
I would suggest reverting that bug in current oldoldstable and even oldstable.. |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
that was going to be my next point |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
mysql and mariadb are certainly diverging at an increased rate.. the check constraints handling raised that, but this bug also highlights it |
| 13:44 |
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thd |
The change should definitely be explicit rather than implicit. |
| 13:44 |
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Joubu |
I do not understand, you are suggesting to revert bug 22128 in 18.05 and 18.11? |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
currently we just say 'mariadb and mysql supported' (I actually don't know where we say that.. but that's generally the concensus I've got from people).. |
| 13:44 |
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marcelr |
debian moved to mariadb |
| 13:44 |
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Joubu |
and so drop support of debian stable for our oldstable branches? |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
but that lack of clarity leads to issues in support |
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ashimema |
well.. perhaps we need to write two code paths if we want to support D8 and D9 |
| 13:45 |
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ashimema |
I dunno.. looking for peoples thoughts |
| 13:45 |
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ashimema |
it's 6 months in reality.. |
| 13:45 |
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marcelr |
a small patch could be rewritten for 5.5 ? |
| 13:45 |
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ashimema |
I would hope the majority of pople are on D9 already |
| 13:46 |
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fridolin |
we at Biblibre will to upgrades to D9 this summer, but we are really the late |
| 13:46 |
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ashimema |
we would need to identify the mysql/mariadb versions and then run a different sql syntax for each |
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fridolin |
i mean summer 2020 |
| 13:46 |
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marcelr |
fridolin: D10 ? |
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wahanui |
somebody said D10 was certainly a work in progress.. |
| 13:47 |
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ashimema |
we've been in the process of upgrading all our customers for some time now.. not many left |
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Joubu |
wahanui: forget D10 |
| 13:47 |
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wahanui |
Joubu: I forgot d10 |
| 13:47 |
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ashimema |
D10 isn't well supported at all yet |
| 13:47 |
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fridolin |
yep |
| 13:47 |
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fridolin |
but we will try to anticipate this time |
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ashimema |
packages will not install without allot of manual intervention |
| 13:48 |
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fridolin |
our servers will go Bionic so its for outise servers |
| 13:48 |
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ashimema |
we have testing setup to run against it.. but whilst it doesn't even build none of the tests can run |
| 13:48 |
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Joubu |
so we are only fully supporting D9 |
| 13:48 |
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fridolin |
and Bionic ? |
| 13:48 |
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Joubu |
and U18 yes |
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ashimema |
D9 and U18 |
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marcelr |
fridolin: werent you containerizing ? |
| 13:49 |
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ashimema |
and we don't have tests that highlight our existing D8 issues. |
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thd |
As long as the statement of change is clear and widely posted, people should have already been expecting to migrate to current Debian old stable as the previous old stable is retired. |
| 13:49 |
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ashimema |
I would like to go further and suggest we set OS and SQL versions we officially support.. |
| 13:49 |
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thd |
ashimema++ |
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fridolin |
marcelr: we are : bionic container on a bionic hypervisor |
| 13:50 |
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ashimema |
right now one can install latest MySQL or MariaDB and just expect it to work.. we're not testing those so we really should make it clear we don't officially support them yet |
| 13:50 |
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fridolin |
+1 for explicit verisons |
| 13:50 |
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fridolin |
there is a patch of release notes dedicated to that but its actually frozen |
| 13:51 |
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cait |
makes sense to me - support what is in the OS we support, right? |
| 13:51 |
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marcelr |
qa needs something to not slip stuff in from higher db versions |
| 13:51 |
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fridolin |
it soulhd contain : OS, DB server, ES server, Perl ... |
| 13:51 |
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ashimema |
I've already improved the situation a little the past couple of weeks by adding SQL versions to test against.. but we're still only actually testing mysql5.5 and mariadb10.1 |
| 13:51 |
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cait |
ES server would be good, Perl I think we do list |
| 13:52 |
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ashimema |
I know some people are running mysql5.7, mysql8, mariadb10.3 and beyond |
| 13:52 |
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fridolin |
we do but it needs work to tell D9 and U18, they have diff version |
| 13:52 |
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ashimema |
it's what caused the massive mess with the Check constraints stuff. |
| 13:52 |
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marcelr |
it proved useful too |
| 13:52 |
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fridolin |
we plan to upgrade to MariaDB 10.4 + U18 |
| 13:52 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
| 13:53 |
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fridolin |
is release notes the right place ? |
| 13:53 |
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ashimema |
do we wish to continue to support both mysql and mariadb as they diverge.. if we do we need to work out a way forward.. |
| 13:53 |
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ashimema |
their syntaxes are diverging |
| 13:54 |
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cait |
but only for checks or in other areas as well? |
| 13:54 |
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ashimema |
probably a good idea to have that in the release notes yeah.. |
| 13:54 |
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cait |
+1 for release notes - it's the mostl likely place for people to check requirements |
| 13:54 |
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ashimema |
at least as a starting place |
| 13:54 |
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fridolin |
patch release generator then |
| 13:54 |
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ashimema |
in other area's too cait |
| 13:54 |
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ashimema |
hense the bug in koha-remove |
| 13:54 |
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marcelr |
debian moves to maria |
| 13:55 |
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cait |
I think already has |
| 13:55 |
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marcelr |
moved |
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fridolin |
so should we ? |
| 13:55 |
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cait |
with the debian updates (we are on it too) ours are on mariadb now in part |
| 13:55 |
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marcelr |
stick to default ? |
| 13:55 |
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ashimema |
so far I've only identified such disparities in table manipulations.. alter table, alter constraint, add user, drop user type stuff |
| 13:55 |
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cait |
how are other projects handling this? |
| 13:55 |
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cait |
i think it probably doesn't only affect us |
| 13:55 |
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fridolin |
good Q |
| 13:56 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. you have to work hard to install mysql on debian now.. maria is the default |
| 13:56 |
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ashimema |
no idea if that's the same on ubuntu |
| 13:56 |
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ashimema |
I don't know how many other projects actually are db agnostic cait |
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ashimema |
there's really only two options.. stick to one DB or write code to work out what DB you're attached to and write different code for each. |
| 13:57 |
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cait |
i think mysql/mariadb should have come to a lot like us rather naturally |
| 13:57 |
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ashimema |
yup |
| 13:57 |
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thd |
Projects with more resources at least have a better history of document the database version requirements and expected changes explicitly. |
| 13:57 |
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ashimema |
and it's only really with the major version number jump that the two start to diverge more widely I think.. |
| 13:58 |
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cait |
db agnostic was the long term goal of postgres support |
| 13:58 |
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Joubu |
we should boost bug 23914 ;) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23914 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Hea - share the DBMS (name and version) |
| 13:58 |
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ashimema |
I don't think Debian or Ubuntu stables have made that version jump yet |
| 13:58 |
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cait |
but i think we are not moving any closer to that |
| 13:58 |
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marcelr |
as long as debian has maria, choosing mysql is not handy ? |
| 13:58 |
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cait |
we still have a lot of people running koha from tarball out there... |
| 13:58 |
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ashimema |
yup.. that's why I wanted bug 23914 ;) |
| 13:58 |
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fridolin |
oh of course, HEA |
| 13:58 |
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cait |
so being explicit is good, but forcing them short term to switch dbms might cause bigger problems |
| 13:59 |
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ashimema |
if you call mysql-server to install you get mariadb-server instead at he moment |
| 13:59 |
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ashimema |
you have to work around it if you actually want mysql installed |
| 13:59 |
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marcelr |
so its all about OS too |
| 13:59 |
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cait |
i have no issue with Hea - but it still represents only a small part |
| 13:59 |
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cait |
the ones we probably not catching are the small self hosted ones |
| 13:59 |
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ashimema |
I'm not suggesting an overnight change |
| 13:59 |
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fridolin |
some use remote DB server |
| 13:59 |
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Joubu |
so far we only have the DROP USER IF EXISTS syntax that is not supported by MySQL5.5 (and so D8) |
| 13:59 |
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thd |
Why does MariaDB seem to have chosen syntax changes which break compatibility? |
| 13:59 |
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ashimema |
but suggesting we start planning for it |
| 13:59 |
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ashimema |
;) |
| 13:59 |
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fridolin |
that may not be a Debian ... |
| 13:59 |
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cait |
so it can be an indicator... but we should not put all decisions on what it tells us |
| 13:59 |
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Joubu |
which is only used in 1 script, koha-remove |
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ashimema |
it's the other way around thd |
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Joubu |
to support D8 we could post a workaround on the wiki to explain you can replace this script by this contain |
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cait |
what we shoudl totally do right now is make a page lsiting the differences |
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cait |
and the versions |
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ashimema |
mariadb followed the syntax that postgres set years ago.. then mysql cuaght up and added the feature but chose to use a different syntax |
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cait |
have that info stored somewhere, because it gets confusing pretty fast now |
| 14:01 |
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fridolin |
(me hates DB servers) |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
that.. and start running tests against a broader range of DB's so we start spotting issues before they hit users cait |
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cait |
Joubu: i'd prefer an in-built thing.. rememver how many times we got asked aout the PK problem on lists and chat :( |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
with koha-testing-docker it's getting easier to do that.. |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
#action Document differences between MySQL and MariaDB syntaxes, versions etc. on the wiki |
| 14:02 |
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fridolin |
if its only in koha-remove, a if/else looks fine |
| 14:02 |
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Joubu |
cait: I just wanted to tell it's super minor so far |
| 14:02 |
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Joubu |
I tried to install mysql 5.5 on D9 this morning, to provide a patch, but failed |
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cait |
Joubu: yeah, but if it stops you from installing, that's not so minor :) |
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Joubu |
failed to install it |
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cait |
not for the non-technical people that may encounter it |
| 14:02 |
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ashimema |
stops you from removing.. doesn't prevent installs |
| 14:03 |
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Joubu |
cait: it's koha-remove, so it will not stop people from installing Koha |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
ah good |
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marcelr |
koha cant be removed |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
sorry, missed that bit |
| 14:03 |
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fridolin |
i bet nobody ever removes a Koha ;) |
| 14:03 |
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marcelr |
which is good :) |
| 14:03 |
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fridolin |
try it and love it |
| 14:03 |
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Joubu |
no really, it's minor |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
but still... not super good - could we display a note or something? when you try to remove? |
| 14:03 |
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ashimema |
it's only affects a koha-remove of an instance which is called as part of an apt purge or if you just want to remove a single instance |
| 14:03 |
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marcelr |
it should be rewritten |
| 14:03 |
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ashimema |
so it's fairly minor in reality |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
fridolin: and never ever leave? ;) |
| 14:03 |
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ashimema |
I just walked the person through hacking a fix when it came up a few days ago |
| 14:03 |
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thd |
I assume that you can install anything with chroot but I built a Debian old version time machine for what I needed. |
| 14:04 |
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ashimema |
he was only removing it so he could add it back fresh |
| 14:04 |
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fridolin |
and have many children ;) |
| 14:04 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 14:04 |
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Joubu |
somebody with a D8 runnning somewhere could provide a patch :) |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
so let's note it on the wiki at least to keep on top of things |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
when you are not around, it#s nice to have something to point people at |
| 14:04 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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ashimema |
#action Add a note somewhere that koha-remove does not work on D8 with MySQL5.5 right now and likely won't unless we find a developer who is still running D8 |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
#action Check release note generator for supported versions list and update accordingly for SQL servers |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
#action Continue the deprecation of D8 conversation on the lists and come up with a clear plan |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
#action Continue work on supporting D10 |
| 14:07 |
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cait |
sound sreasonable |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
#action Further the work to test against more DB server versions in our CI process. |
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ashimema |
#action Promote bug 23914 more so we can get a better idea of what's actually in use in our userbase |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23914 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Hea - share the DBMS (name and version) |
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ashimema |
I'm tempted to move that bug into a new bug.. the conversation got hugely off topic.. the idea was to start recording that data.. not promote a massive opinionated discussion on history and database agnostisism. |
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ashimema |
moving one.. |
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ashimema |
was there any more you wanted to say on the find in list context bug marcelr? |
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cait |
sorry for that |
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marcelr |
no |
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marcelr |
julianm can continue |
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marcelr |
jajm |
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ashimema |
okies. |
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cait |
better note on the bug i think |
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marcelr |
its there cait |
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marcelr |
he'll understand |
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ashimema |
#topic Objects->find - Bug 23914 |
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Topic for #koha is now Objects->find - Bug 23914 (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
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ashimema |
oops.. wrong bug |
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ashimema |
#link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19809 bug 19809 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Koha::Objects::find calls do not need to be forbidden in list context |
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huginn |
Bug 19809: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Koha::Objects::find calls do not need to be forbidden in list context |
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ashimema |
moving on |
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ashimema |
#topic Review of coding guidlines |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidlines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
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ashimema |
nothing from me to raise.. anyone else? |
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cait |
maybe later - db stuff |
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cait |
I mean we might want to add some new things when we figure out the db support - to help qa |
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ashimema |
agreed.. we need more detail before we can work out more guidlines. |
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cait |
agreed |
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ashimema |
so |
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ashimema |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 6 November 2019) |
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ashimema |
I'm thinking it's the busy period and we're talking to each other lots already (and there's the docs meeting and general meeting next week anyway).. |
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ashimema |
so.. shall we skip a fortnight and call the next one in a month, after release? |
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ashimema |
say, 4th December ? |
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thd |
The fortnight may also be very close to a major US holiday. |
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ashimema |
so a second good reason to skip |
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ashimema |
any issue's with 4th Dec? |
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ashimema |
or advancements |
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ashimema |
ooh.. |
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ashimema |
4th is bad for me.. I'll be at our company meeting dinner |
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ashimema |
lol |
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thd |
my system is running very slowly at the moment :0 |
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ashimema |
it's December.. it's going to likely be a very quiet meeting whenever we do it isn't it.. |
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ashimema |
11th works well for me |
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Joubu |
Why do you think a dev meeting just before the release is bad? |
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Joubu |
s/bad/not useful |
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ashimema |
not bad as such.. just perhaps unrequired |
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thd |
The fortnight is actually not close to the US holiday. |
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ashimema |
I'm happy to have one if you guys feel it's useful |
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thd |
The US holiday is the week following the fortnight. |
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ashimema |
ok, 20th then |
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thd |
s/week/end of week/ |
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ashimema |
evenining one |
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ashimema |
so `20 November 2019, 20:00 UTC` sound ok |
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thd |
+1 |
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ashimema |
#info Next meeting: 20 November 2019, 20:00 UTC |
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ashimema |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Nov 6 14:23:56 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-06-13.04.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-11-06-13.04.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]06-13.04.log.html |
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* ashimema |
needs a nap now |
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ashimema |
thanks everyone |
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* thd |
joins ashimema for a nap needed hours ago before falling asleep in the chair again. |
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thd |
... and before some support call forces me awake again. |
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caroline_catlady |
good morning! |
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cait |
good morning caroline_catlady :) |
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thd |
good night caroline_catlady must sleep while I still have the chance :) |
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caroline_catlady |
sleep well thd |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23382: (RM follow-up) Ensure tests pass on Wednesdays <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80f38303c50eb5402> |
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marcelr |
tests should certainly pass on wednesdays! |
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ashimema |
indeed ;) |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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oleonard |
Apologies for missing the meeting |
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marcelr |
accepted :) |
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marcelr |
mostly not there lol |
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oleonard |
Oh thank goodness, I though everyone was giving me the silent treatment |
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caroline_catlady |
aw, dont worry, we love you oleonard :) |
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caroline_catlady |
ugh, trying to understand the implications of bug 18639 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18639 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Separate replacement cost and retail price fields in acquisitions |
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caroline_catlady |
Iis the vendor price still useful? if so, what is the difference between retail price and vendor price? |
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caroline_catlady |
and I think there a miscalculation in the db, vendor price is ecost, but ecost_tax_in/excluded is based on rrp |
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cait |
caroline_catlady: that sounds a little odd |
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cait |
ecost is the price with tax and discount etc |
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cait |
so what you think you will have to pay... rrp is i tihnk the list price |
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caroline_catlady |
I am writing a bz right now, with all the steps I'm doing... maybe someone can test and see if I'm understanding something wrong |
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caroline_catlady |
adding to the list of typos that I always do price = prince, hehe |
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caroline_catlady |
one day my price will come/ entre the retail prince |
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cait |
caroline_catlady: i always typo bilbonumber |
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caroline_catlady |
nice! |
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ashimema |
my understanding is listprice is the vendors list price, ecost is the estimated end cost (i.e. vendors price - discounts * quantity) |
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ashimema |
rrp is/was used for replacement costs for the lost item handling I tihnk |
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ashimema |
mmm. I also worry about how rrp/listprice differ in the UI and in the server code |
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ashimema |
I raised this with kidclamp this morning as it happens as he's added unitprice into the mix as of few days ago |
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ashimema |
what do you tihnk it should be |
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ashimema |
acq hurts my head at this point |
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caroline_catlady |
I'm still putting my thoughts in order as I type the bz |
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caroline_catlady |
I'll let you know |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
better still.. add kidclamp and I to the cc list.. ;) |
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caroline_catlady |
ok! |
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oleonard |
Yes what is kidclamp even doing lately? Hackey-sack 24/7 I'm guessing. |
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ashimema |
lol |
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kidclamp |
me and my crew, we're getting good |
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kidclamp |
gonnamake ti to nationals |
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oleonard |
Radical |
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kidclamp |
in high school economics class we had to sell some sort of product - one kid suggested a sticker of a 'dead bear hacking' - it took me forever to parse that phrase |
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kidclamp |
"Grateful Dead bear playing hackey-sack" |
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kidclamp |
not "Zombie bear taking down the internetz" |
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caroline_catlady |
I was definitely imagining the latter |
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oleonard |
I'm am strongly on the side of the latter |
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* ashimema |
google hackey-sack |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
matts: https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]koha-plugin-coral |
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tcohen |
I will submit there |
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oleonard |
tcohen: If my kohadevbox issue ("`playbook` does not exist on the guest: /vagrant/site.yml") implies the host and guest aren't syncing correctly, any suggestions for how to troubleshoot? |
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tcohen |
oh, right |
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* tcohen |
tries on a linux box |
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koha-jenkins |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23467: Exit after output_html - opac-reserve.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f481f290302f44c78> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23075: Correct indendation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebf71599b7ac9d3e9> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 17359: Use a unicode character in tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0c0c68e70b6d5a29b> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23968: Add div this id around OPACMySummaryNote content <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dc8caaa5668738411> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23968: fix OPACMySummaryNote feature <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef391c0864753c8ba> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23774: Server-side confirmation for hold pickup location in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87256c76fff84b29f> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23075: Do not 'Send' if the url is not correct <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d176977cddc9dc9d> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23075: (follow-up) Dissallow transparent redirects <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebd5d94f5b8cd46f9> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23483: Show the description, not the patron's title when writing off an individua... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]647fc6104382c0b7d> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23719: (follow-up) Add warn when passed invalid search field in marclist <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9c315e61d2adc3bd> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 17359: Correct encoding when displaying patron import summary <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef26867ca80affec1> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 17359: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71b6f78da3bba3c71> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23719: Allow searching specific fields for matching authorities in ES <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]94c4676293839ed19> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23075: Report if mana-kb server is not found <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc38ae30440978204> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 11514: Untranslatable "Uncertain" text in acq <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]406e00d9eb927930b> |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema: prepare some tylenol for your imminent headache bug 23981 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23981 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Inconsistencies with the different prices |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23414: Replace delimiter of regexs to ease readability <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3da28e60a3dc116b9> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23414: Add tests for previous effective_itemtype change <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]db12384f2e048bb34> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23414: Use effective_itemtype <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d5ecf4fec3bcf8754> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23414: Easy readability and simplify logic in buildKohaItemsNamespace <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb06f88eb9cfafe0e> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23414: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]533894beb040b2ed6> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22677: Include hint to OAI page path on OAI-PMH preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1e148910205e560f9> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23414: Prefetch transfers, use only default framework, use elsif <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c21f1644ff360cd7c> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23414: Use Koha Item objects in buildKohaItemsNamespace <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a1aa64cdd48bd8a3c> |
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nuentoter |
good afternoon koha ppl! Quick question, I was putting in an old book order into my acquisitions and when I went to close out the basket, the subtotal was off by $.01 the column added up to 155.62 using a calculator and on my paper invoice. but in koha it adds up to 155.63....... something funny going on somewhere |
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nuentoter |
I |
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nuentoter |
I've doubly checked the numbers on my end of things |
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caroline_catlady |
lucyvh++ is on fire with documentation" :) |
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caroline_catlady |
nuentoter: might have to do with rounding |
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caroline_catlady |
the prices in the db are stored with 6 decimals |
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caroline_catlady |
so if you have tax or discounts that make your total something like 155.627000, it will be rounded to 155.63 |
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nuentoter |
aahhh ok, i thought maybe the discount wasw doing it but I manually had entered in my costs but it still must figure it im assuming |
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nuentoter |
ty caroline |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #189: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/189/ |
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cait |
does someone know if you need real paypal credentails for bug 23868? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23868 blocker, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Signed Off , PayPal payment button is never enabled |
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ashimema |
Nice set of descriptions there caroline_catlady |
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ashimema |
deffo going to need a scotch in hand when I dig into this one |
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caroline_catlady |
I tried to summarize at the end, but so many numbers are dizzying |
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ashimema |
it is indeed confusing as !!!! |
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ashimema |
I spent a good day deep in a hole with this stuff yesterday and came out just as confused as I was when I went in. ;) |
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caroline_catlady |
lol! |
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ashimema |
there are too many different workflows through acq too.. that's part of the problem.. every time we try to refine and clarify one workflow for people.. we break other peoples workflows |
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ashimema |
'tis hard |
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caroline_catlady |
yes... hopefully kidclamp will chime in with his expertise |
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caroline_catlady |
bbl |
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* ashimema |
crosses finger that Jenkins puts on his smiley face in a few minutes |
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cait |
acq needs to be flexible... but some parts don't work well in that regard and othes are not documented enough :( |
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Joubu |
cait: no you do not need credentials, just enable the general pref |
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cait |
Joubu: figured it out - i had never tested it before |
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koha-jenkins |
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koha-jenkins |
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ashimema |
tcohen++ adding mysql8 to Jenkins 😀 |
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ashimema |
Now we test mysql5.5, mysql8, mariadb10.1 and mariadb10.3 😀 |
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tcohen |
+1 |
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ashimema |
yikes.. just a few failure on M8 then. lol |
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ebegin_ |
hey #koha ! |
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ebegin_ |
did anybody tried so far to do full-text indexation using ES ? For example, if a library has a PDF in a 856$u, it would be nice to allow fulltext search in this PDF. |
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rangi |
Joubu: what are we waiting on me for? |
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tcohen |
ebegin_: no, and is a great idea, to start tinkering on that |
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rangi |
ahhh i see, merging now |
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ashimema |
Oops, I should have predicted those latest failures.. my bad.. mind you, it wasn't noticed during QA either |
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ashimema |
Still, should be easy enough to fix.. ohew |
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cait |
what is failing? |
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* cait |
was just baking cake :) |
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Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #190: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/190/ |
| 19:35 |
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ashimema |
Mana |
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cait |
ebegin_: i haven't heard of it yet, maybe try asking ere? |
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cait |
oh |
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ashimema |
Or rather, the tests for the SharedContent object class |
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cait |
i didn't touhc that one at least ;) |
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ashimema |
Pretty sure I know what the issue is.. a minor followup |
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ashimema |
Also..bug 23293 might be a nice last enhancement to squeeze through QA before freeze |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23293 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , OPACFineNoRenewals compares against 'balance' not 'outstanding' |
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ashimema |
No worries.. I'm on the case for the failing test.. it will be clean again soon |
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cait |
kidclamp asked me to look at bug 7611 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , Show the NOT_LOAN authorised values for item status in XSLT OPAC search results |
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cait |
but i just can't get friendly with the new display :( |
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rangi |
https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
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wahanui |
it has been said that https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ is up again :D |
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rangi |
better? |
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cait |
i quite like the > v |
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ashimema |
Fair enough |
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cait |
i think also the color would make it more obvious - it matches the othe rlinks |
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ashimema |
It's not so much a link I suppose... |
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ashimema |
I'm on phone now |
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ashimema |
Don't see a difference.. maybe some caching going on |
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rangi |
the blocker and stuff is green |
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rangi |
and with a little arrow thing |
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rangi |
(its the changes joubu made I just merged in, to try and make ppl know to click on it) |
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ashimema |
Cool |
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ashimema |
Thanks for that.. I'd mean meaning to work on it for a while |
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ashimema |
Sooo many things |
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Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #191: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/191/ |
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ebegin_ |
Thanks all. We may have a client interested in a full-text search feature. We will let you know ;-) |
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