IRC log for #koha, 2019-08-14

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06:41 reiveune hello
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06:59 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui niihau, alex_a
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07:31 cait good morning #koha
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08:29 ashimema mornin' #koha
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11:55 ashimema :)
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12:42 eythian cait: https://www.the-american-inter[…]mans-are-reading/
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12:52 ashimema meeting soon ladies and gents :)
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12:53 magnuse ashimema: in 7 minues?
12:53 magnuse Slainte Charles_Quain
12:53 ashimema lol
12:54 ashimema yup..
12:54 * ashimema dashes off to get tea
12:54 corilynn good morning from Alaska!
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12:55 ashimema mornin' cari lynn
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12:57 magnuse hiya corilynn
13:00 ashimema Shall we kick it off then :)
13:00 ashimema #startmeeting General IRC meeting 14 August 2019
13:00 huginn` Meeting started Wed Aug 14 13:00:53 2019 UTC.  The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at
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13:00 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019)
13:00 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_14_august_2019'
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13:01 Charles_Quain Hi All
13:01 ashimema #chair cait
13:01 huginn` Current chairs: ashimema cait
13:01 ashimema #topic Introductions
13:01 Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019)
13:01 ashimema Please use #info to introduce yourselves
13:01 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
13:02 Charles_Quain #info Charles Quain Interleaf Technology
13:02 jzairo #info Jessica Zairo, ByWater Solutions
13:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
13:02 lisettelatah #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District
13:03 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
13:03 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
13:04 ashimema we'll give people another minute or two.. seem to be trickling in
13:06 ashimema #topic Announcements
13:06 Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019)
13:06 ashimema Hmm, does anyone have any?
13:06 thd Yes.
13:06 ashimema fire away thd
13:07 thd As the agenda is empty  I want to announce good progress with migrating the Koha MediaWiki database from Postgres to MySQL.
13:07 thd I have updated the bug report.
13:07 ashimema oh, excellent
13:07 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
13:08 thd https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23073
13:08 huginn` Bug 23073: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , needs updating to a later version
13:08 ashimema #info thd has made good progress with migrating our existing MediaWiki from Postgres to MySQL.. the first step towards upgrading.
13:08 thd I do have one question.
13:09 ashimema #into See bug 23073 for ongoing progress
13:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23073 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , needs updating to a later version
13:09 thd Does anyone know the origin of the anonymized_mwuser table in MediaWiki?
13:10 ashimema not I
13:11 ashimema is it populated?
13:12 thd Yes, it is populated.  Guessing from the database username owning the table it may have been something created in the first day of starting with MediaWiki after which we started again with a different database username.
13:13 ashimema I think I wouldn't worry too much about it
13:13 ashimema shall we move on.. anyone else got any announcements?
13:14 thd I do not intend to worry much about it but it seems t be the only mysterious table for which I do not have a nice MySQL structure to migrate.
13:14 lisettelatah The koha-US conference is next month in Pueblo, CO from September 18-21.
13:14 tcohen hi
13:14 wahanui salut, tcohen
13:15 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi
13:15 ashimema #info koha-US Conference is next month in Pueblo, CO from September 18-21
13:16 ashimema #info Kohacon20 is all set to take place 19th-25th October in Wellington NZ
13:16 ashimema #link Kohacon20
13:17 ashimema They have not yet called for speakers, but should be doing so any day now I believe
13:18 ashimema OK.. moving on..
13:18 ashimema #topic Update on releases
13:18 Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019)
13:18 ashimema #topic Stable releases
13:18 Topic for #koha is now Stable releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019)
13:19 ashimema #info Fridolin sends his apologies for not making the meeting. 19.05.x series in in reasonable shape, he's keeping up with bugfixes well but we do have a few bugs still making their way through the SO/QA process
13:20 ashimema rmaints?
13:20 wahanui well, rmaints is fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea
13:20 tcohen is there a list?
13:21 ashimema only the bugs highlighted in the koha dashboard
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13:21 ashimema 6 'Major' in NSO, 1 in NQA
13:21 ashimema so not huge numbers.. but there are a fair few 'New' that need looking at
13:22 ashimema at least a couple in my own queue.. I best get to writing patches for those
13:23 ashimema #topic Update from the RM
13:23 Topic for #koha is now Update from the RM (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019)
13:24 ashimema #info We are 3 months into the cycle and 2 weeks into a 2 month window for adventurous pushing.
13:25 ashimema #info 224 Bugs pushed to date, 158 bugfixes, 65 enhancements and 1 new feature.
13:25 ashimema #info 10 of the above bugs were Sponsored, thankyou sponsors :)
13:26 ashimema I feel dev meetings have been going reasonably well and are a little more inclusive again now we have moved the late slot a little later again to catch the NZ croud.
13:27 ashimema Katrin has been doing a great job rounding up the troops for QA as ever, thanks cait
13:27 ashimema any questions for the RM ?
13:28 caroline_catlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro
13:28 ashimema could be a nice short meeting today
13:28 cait ashimema: not sure about that... herding cats is hard :)
13:29 tcohen ashimema: I will try to do more QA for the rest of the cycle
13:29 ashimema thanks tcohen :)
13:30 ashimema he dashboard is telling.. it's the usual suspects doing SO and QA..
13:30 ashimema we certainly notice Joubu's absence too.
13:30 ashimema though it's nice to have kidclamp back on QA after his stint as RM :)
13:30 kidclamp Joubu++
13:31 ashimema and wizzyrea is storming ahead on the SO stats :)
13:31 kidclamp can we flatter him into returning
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13:32 ashimema okies.. lets move on then
13:33 ashimema #topic Set time of next meeting
13:33 Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019)
13:34 ashimema First wednesday of the month as usual... any obvious problems?
13:34 ashimema ooh.. I'm not around then, heading home from anual leave
13:35 thd The first week in September is the end of customary academic holidays in many places.
13:36 ashimema mm, perhaps leave it a week to try and catch people once they've actually returned
13:36 thd I have no actual objection to the first week personally.
13:36 ashimema 11th September then?
13:36 ashimema 2100 UTC
13:37 thd Is 21 UTC the time with is now catching people in NZ?
13:37 cait 9 am
13:37 cait seems good
13:37 ashimema 20:30 has been the dev meeting time that we've caught NZ
13:38 ashimema 21:00 looks like the time we've usually alternated to for NZ for General meetings
13:38 ashimema 11 September 2019, 21:00 UTC
13:39 thd I have generally been confused by directional drift as local time has changed seasonally.
13:39 ashimema speak now if anyone has any problems with that proposal
13:39 thd No problems.
13:41 ashimema UTC 21 is UK 22, NZ 09 and US (new york) 17
13:41 ashimema so seems mostly reasonable..
13:41 ashimema done
13:41 ashimema #info Next meeting: 11 September 2019, 21:00 UTC
13:41 ashimema #endmeeting
13:41 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
13:41 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 13:41:56 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)
13:41 huginn` Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-14-13.00.html
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13:42 ashimema thanks all
13:44 tcohen ashimema++
13:45 * thd goes back to a little unavoidable screen scraping ugg
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14:31 reiveune ye
14:31 reiveune bye
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14:56 oleonard Hi all
15:02 caroline_catlady good mornin oleonard
15:04 * cait waves
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15:19 caroline_catlady Is there a way of making line returns in patron card text fields? I've tried with <br/> (it just prints <br/>) dans \n (the pdf doesn't open)
15:20 cait hm have you checked the context help?
15:21 oleonard I wonder if that's a bug in the text-escaping stuff
15:21 cait it generates pdf
15:21 cait i would have be ton \n
15:21 cait bet on
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15:22 caroline_catlady there is nothing in the help nor in the manual
15:23 cait not good
15:23 cait mailing list maybe?
15:23 oleonard You could invoke the name of chris_n
15:24 caroline_catlady I will check with my devs before to see if they can sport something
15:24 caroline_catlady *spot
15:24 caroline_catlady god I can't type...
15:24 cait neither can we :)
15:25 caroline_catlady lol, god = cait and she uses the royal we, I love it ;)
15:25 oleonard Your devs could probably sport a nice tweed jacket. That might suit them.
15:25 cait i emant it more globally #koha... but... hm. royal we.
15:25 cait lol
15:25 caroline_catlady I understood, but I thought it was nicer
15:25 cait yeah :)
15:25 cait we think that too
15:26 caroline_catlady rofl!
15:26 cait I think kilt
15:26 cait this day had way too many meetings
15:27 cait not including the #koha one i missed : (
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15:52 * oleonard wonders if he had to say chris_n's name 3 times
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15:55 cait oleonard: haven't seen him in a long time
15:55 oleonard No, but every once in a while he'll magically appear when someone mentions labels
15:56 cait labels, label printing, labelling ...
15:56 cait oleonard: oh i saw your comment on one of the bug - the label printer thing on the item table is a pref
15:56 cait to make it show up
15:57 oleonard Oh I must have completely missed it when I was looking at the template
15:57 * oleonard thought he checked
15:57 cait i thin it#s this one: SpineLabelShowPrintOnBibDetails
15:59 oleonard Oh yeah, and it should be styled like a button
16:12 cait 23462 is a bit odd too
16:13 cait bug 23462
16:13 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to delete a patron list
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16:19 cait bye all :)
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16:44 caroline_catlady why does the id of an input field change in the new items form?
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16:45 caroline_catlady input id="tag_952_subfield_g_330576" and when I Ctrl+F5, it becomes tag_952_subfield_g_586648
16:48 oleonard The inputs get a randomized number attached to their id so that they can be tied to cataloging plugins
16:48 oleonard ...if I recall correctly...
16:49 oleonard caroline_catlady: Are you trying to use the id to apply some JS or CSS?
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17:08 oleonard Default focus and focus style for hold modal buttons?[…]?p=15658024645569
17:09 oleonard Choosing the default might be going too far. Maybe just focus on the first button on the left.
17:09 oleonard (we didn't want 'print' to be the default until we got slip printers)
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17:42 lisettelatah oleonard: could you set it as a preference so people who wanted to print as default could and others could just confirm? Though with consortium like ours that would still be a problem because not all the branches have printers.
17:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #143: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/143/
17:44 caroline_catlady oleonard: yes, I want to auto-fill the replacement cost with the price (952$v with 952$g)
17:44 caroline_catlady (sorry I was out on luch)
17:44 caroline_catlady it works with cardnumber and userid so I though it would work there too
17:45 oleonard I've got some JS you can use, let me look...
17:47 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Copy date and price data during item add" (16 lines) at
17:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #150: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/150/
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18:04 caroline_catlady oleonard: does your code copy it immediately or just after save?
18:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:05 wahanui Congratulations!
18:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #152: FIXED in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/152/
18:06 caroline_catlady ah I see it now sorry! :)
18:09 caroline_catlady and thank you!
18:09 caroline_catlady oleonard++
18:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #144: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/144/
18:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #151: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/151/
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19:04 caroline_catlady TT = T_T
19:04 caroline_catlady anyone good with TT around?
19:04 Joubu caroline_catlady: What's the question? :)
19:05 caroline_catlady hi Joubu! I didn't know you were around :)
19:06 caroline_catlady I'm trying to use conditions to show branches.address2 and branches.address3 in notices only if the library has those filled out
19:07 caroline_catlady I'm basing my template on https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lkit#Make_choices
19:07 pastebot "caroline_catlady" at pasted "This is my footer" (8 lines) at
19:08 caroline_catlady ^ this is what I have right now but it doesn't print even if the library has an address2 and address3
19:08 Joubu use "library"
19:08 Joubu not "branches"
19:08 oleonard Can you mix syntaxes like that? TT and the old style?
19:08 Joubu yes you can
19:08 caroline_catlady that's what khall told us
19:08 * oleonard did not know that
19:08 Joubu but you need to pick the right variables
19:08 caroline_catlady ok thanks Joubu, I will try that
19:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #349: ABORTED in 1 day 8 hr: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/349/
19:10 Joubu @later tell ashimema Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it
19:10 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:11 Joubu @later tell ashimema Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it. Jenkin's report may have filled the disk space however
19:11 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:11 Joubu erk
19:11 Joubu @later tell tcohen Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it. Jenkin's report may have filled the disk space however
19:11 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
19:11 caroline_catlady like this? [% IF library.branchaddress2 %] [% library.branchaddress2 %]<br/> [% END %]
19:11 Joubu yes
19:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #350: FAILURE in 1 min 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/350/
19:11 caroline_catlady it doesn't work
19:12 caroline_catlady maybe it's not branchaddress?
19:13 Joubu which template are you editing?
19:13 caroline_catlady CHECKOUT
19:13 caroline_catlady just because it's easy to test :)
19:13 Joubu ho, it's "branch", sorry
19:14 Joubu [% branch.branchaddress %]
19:14 caroline_catlady ok will try that
19:15 Joubu I thought we renamed the variables
19:16 caroline_catlady ooh! It worked for the library with 3 lines! :D Ok trying with a library with just one
19:17 caroline_catlady yass! Thank you Joubu++
19:17 caroline_catlady so are the variables the same for all notices?
19:17 Joubu caroline_catlady: to know how to name the variables for the TT syntax you can refer to[…]/
19:18 caroline_catlady ok thanks!
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19:26 oleonard I guess $hold->set at line 939 of can't accept a "reservenotes" parameter?
19:27 * oleonard is taking stabs in the dark
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19:32 * cait waves at Joubu, caroline_catlady and oleonard
19:33 caroline_catlady hi!
19:34 cait Joubu:  caroline_catlady Josef started a list on the wiki
19:34 cait i will find the link
19:34 Joubu oleonard: why not?
19:34 cait with the variables
19:34 Joubu hi cait!
19:34 cait hi :)
19:34 cait nice to see you
19:34 cait just finished cooking - then hopefully another go at the auth_values patches :)
19:36 * cait is trying to make "Apfelstrudel"
19:36 oleonard Yum
19:36 caroline_catlady yum!
19:36 cait caroline_catlady: the table here should help: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Template_Toolkit
19:36 cait first one ever, so we will see :)
19:36 cait ok, back to the oven
19:37 * oleonard wonders if calire had to bake Apfelstrudel to get German citizenship
19:38 caroline_catlady I didn't even know what that table was for, now I understand :)
19:39 cait i still have to learn about TT notices too.. haven't really dived into it yet
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19:40 cait but collecting links so far :)
19:40 cait hi andreashm!
19:40 cait Joubu: there are some bad bugs around atm, thx for fixing some :)
19:40 andreashm hi cait
19:41 caroline_catlady I think I will put my footer on the wiki as an example... I'm sure I'm not the only one who needs something like taht
19:41 cait bug 23454 worries me
19:41 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23454 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one
19:41 cait caroline_catlady++
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20:01 andreashm cait: that one does look bad
20:01 * andreashm now worries about that one since we are just upgrading to 18.11 (this week)
20:08 cait sorry?
20:09 * ashimema aims to look at that one tomorrow.. need to try and recreate it
20:10 * oleonard was trying to add a note to an in-transit hold, that's why it wasn't working
20:11 * oleonard doesn't even know what hold notes are used for
20:14 andreashm cait: the bug you just linked to (previous fines being overwritten)
20:18 cait yes?
20:21 andreashm just mentioned it looked bad. =)
20:21 cait it does
20:21 cait glad to see ashimema poppe dup
20:21 cait because it does worry me too regards our update to 18.11
20:23 ashimema I'm struggling to find time for a few bugs at the moment 😔
20:23 ashimema But that one is right at the top of the list
20:25 cait thx
20:25 cait i am trying to keep on top of the worst ones a bit. that are freshly filed
20:26 cait but not easy right now
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20:47 oleonard Hi alexbuckley
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20:48 oleonard Hi kathryn
20:48 alexbuckley hi oleonard :)
20:48 kathryn hi oleonard :)
20:48 kathryn and hi errybody else too :)
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20:58 oleonard It seems weird to have a heading for "Spine label" but it does add context to the "Print label" button...[…]?p=15658162441600
20:58 oleonard "Print spine label" is so long
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20:59 cait worse in german :)
21:03 caroline_catlady could you put "Spine label" on the button and the printer acts as the context "print" ?
21:05 caroline_catlady maybe it's not best practices not to put a verb on a button, i don't know...
21:07 cait hm it would not fit with the rest
21:07 cait do we need spine?
21:07 cait for translating a verb is often helpful
21:07 caroline_catlady it could be barcode label?
21:10 cait isn't that even longer?
21:10 cait print label?
21:10 oleonard Yes it could be misinterpreted as barcode label
21:10 cait ah
21:10 cait sorry... getting late here
21:15 oleonard Perfect:[…]?p=15658173226729
21:16 cait lol
21:16 caroline_catlady lol!! love it!
21:16 cait ... on thefly
21:16 caroline_catlady It's probably a literal translation from the german word ;)
21:16 cait we should add that
21:17 cait :P
21:52 oleonard Yay I finally get to go home! See y'all later!
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22:34 caroline_catlady good night everyone!
22:38 kathryn good night and thanks for you email caroline_catlady :)
22:38 kathryn *your
22:38 caroline_catlady no problem!
22:39 caroline_catlady If you need more info, let me know
22:39 kathryn I will, hopefully we hear some more school examples, we'll see
22:40 caroline_catlady I know Calyx has a Koha school program, but I'm not sure how it works
22:41 caroline_catlady
22:41 caroline_catlady It may be just a branding things
22:43 kathryn yes it's a koha service for schools rather than a shared service, am hoping for examples of lots of schools working together in an organised way or shared instance - we'll see!
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