IRC log for #koha, 2019-08-05

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05:31 lari does koha have tools to sync marc21 framework updates (such as bug 21899) into other languages in installer/data/mysql/lang_LANG ?
05:31 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to stable , Update MARC21 frameworks to Update 27 (November 2018)
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06:34 fridolin hi
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06:35 reiveune hello
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07:01 alex_a bonjour
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07:12 calire morning
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07:32 * magnuse waves
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07:46 ashimema good morning #koha
07:46 ashimema did I miss much last week?
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08:15 magnuse kia ora ashimema!
08:16 magnuse nah we just decided to rewrite Koha in Java
08:16 ashimema :S
08:19 magnuse isn't that the expected answer to that question? ;-)
08:21 ashimema hehe, indeed it is
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10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23396: DBRev <[…]a86f1810bbf952c89>
10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23396: (QA follow-up) Add atomic update <[…]8bbc3c72e4b9723d5>
10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21518: Material type "three-dimensional artifact" displays as "visual material" <[…]ae784bb62a5b7d676>
10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23396: Add keyboard_shortcuts.sql to C4/ <[…]91981cd5374237125>
10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 14549: POD and variable cleanup <[…]5b6884a190044003c>
10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 14549: Check patrons reserves for any holds on a bib when checking out an item <[…]e98fe006fbaa12db6>
10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 14549: Unit tests <[…]171aa479c77b28af8>
10:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10492: Translation problems with TT directives in po files <[…]c415bc3f58cbd8b96>
10:45 ashimema @later tell tcohen did a recent jenkins update change how status icons work?
10:45 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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12:02 eythian wahanui: can you hear me now?
12:02 wahanui eythian: i haven't a clue
12:06 magnuse it heard something...
12:12 eythian my IRC client thought it was connected when it actually wasn't, and I was surprised how quiet it was in here...
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13:19 Joubu ashimema: there is no more space on Jenkins, I guess that's why the icons have not been generated
13:19 Joubu and hi #koha!
13:19 ashimema I wondered that
13:19 ashimema hi Joubu!
13:21 lydell Hi, everyone. We recently updated our Koha from 16.11 to 19.05 and it seems like we can't login to Koha with our MySQL login anymore. Is this expected? If so, can we setup a new admin login?
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13:25 magnuse lydell, yes i think that is expected
13:25 magnuse there is a command line script to add a superlibrarian
13:28 magnuse misc/devel/
13:28 magnuse if you are on a package install: /usr/share/koha/bin/devel/
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13:31 caroline_catlady good morning!
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13:33 fridolin yooo
13:34 lydell I'll try the command line script and see if that helps. Thanks!
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13:34 oleonard Hi #koha
13:35 fridolin bug 23427 swapped syspref XD the bug was sleeping since 3.18
13:35 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23427 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Better sorting of previous checkouts
13:35 fridolin i must says system preferences meaning is very disturbing
13:36 fridolin "asc" meaning earliest to latest => but the value of date is growing
13:36 wizzyrea hi
13:36 greenjimll ILSDI question for anyone around: should GetRecords return a date_due field in items? Our previous Koha instance seemed to and the self-documentation says it should, but our live 18.11.04 isn't including them.
13:37 fridolin greenjimll: i think its field onloan that gives this due date
13:38 fridolin oh but you mean in <items> tag
13:39 greenjimll Yes. It looks like it changed at some point between 16.05 and 18.11, but the self-generated docs from still include it.
13:39 greenjimll I use it in our reading list system to work out availability on the fly - librarians have just noticed that everything is now available!
13:40 fridolin i see a date_due in <issues><issue>
13:40 greenjimll The onloan element will fix things though - thank fridolin
13:41 fridolin[…]GetRecords&id=345
13:41 greenjimll Yes, but I'd have to process all the issues, rather than just look in each item. The onloan field seems to work OK though as a replacement.
13:41 fridolin greenjimll: there is no named field onloan, its a MARC subfield, i think issues tag is better
13:42 greenjimll I'm seeing an "onloan" field in each item on our 18.11.04 instance?
13:42 fridolin ah indeed
13:43 fridolin date_due will contain the hour
13:43 fridolin so you have the choice ^^
13:44 greenjimll If you take a look at[…]e&verb=GetRecords you'll see it still says "date_due" in the item, even though on 18.11.04 it isn't there!
13:45 greenjimll I'm guessing the self-generated documentation of has got out of step with the code generating the XML at some point. I only tripped over it because I'm using it for our reading lists.
13:45 greenjimll That'll teach me to read documentation. :-) :-)
13:48 oleonard That classic rookie mistake ;)
13:51 greenjimll OK, I think I should probably put in a bug report for this... not sure if its the documentation that needs to match the code, or the code that needs to match the docs. :-)
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14:00 lydell magnuse: Thanks for your help! The script did allow me to create a new superlibrarian
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23099: Compiled CSS <[…]e0de30a8202ab14f2>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Compiled CSS <[…]a3041904bb75ac0d0>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: DBRev <[…]c595bf1903fa4540b>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22610: DBRev 19.06.017 <[…]692064d570752be42>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: (QA follow-up) Copy existing subtitle mappings and warn others <[…]d3b8bb98cf78cb0c4>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23386: Add language of original in advanced search <[…]bc54bf368fc9d95ce>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23099: OPAC Search result sorting "go" button flashes on page load <[…]1adbd77eeb76180c2>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: (follow-up) Fix QA issues <[…]d1d56684651bb6d79>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: (follow-up) Fix link on hold request page <[…]8a39b173951132143>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Add templates for biblio title display. Unify display. <[…]cd9f40180523e5f0e>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: (follow-up) Remove manage_keywords2koha_mappings permission. <[…]023ca6cf764a16952>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Remove duplicate column name from select query <[…]29afa1f63c8fed73f>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Replace bibliosubtitle with biblio in all framework sql's. <[…]ed9a2d3d76105bc46>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Update kohafield in default framework only if not already set. <[…]1a9c6ec9ee3278c1b>
14:03 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: DBIx schema changes <[…]de2e7e6bad957d94b>
14:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Remove field mapping table and admin page <[…]c6b5a1e453ad3e988>
14:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Clean up subtitle usage <[…]79a564c1384a8f832>
14:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Simplify and optimize <[…]130cfa25af50429ae>
14:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Use new biblio fields whenever possible <[…]9a4f43a8b02c06650>
14:04 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Add new fields to biblio table <[…]93930de4daedc708b>
14:04 oleonard ashimema++
14:07 ashimema nice spot greenjimll , deffo a bug if the docs don't match the functionality..
14:07 ashimema oleonard...
14:07 wahanui rumour has it oleonard is happy for ashimema to write the release script
14:07 greenjimll Just raising a bug report for it...
14:07 oleonard ...
14:08 ashimema I just tried to apply 23339 but it seems something i've pushed earlier today means it doesn't apply :(.. the rebase looks reasonably trivial but as the indenting expert I thought I'd ask you to take a quick look at it for me.. wouldn't want to make it worse again ;)
14:09 oleonard I'll take a look
14:09 oleonard Thanks
14:10 greenjimll OK, there's now Bug 23429.
14:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23429 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , GetRecords documentation does not match output
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14:10 ashimema sorry I didn't spot it earlier to make it someone elses problem ;)
14:11 ashimema thanks greenjimll :)
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14:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #336: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/336/
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14:38 lukeG1 oleonard: thanks for the follow-up up
14:39 oleonard lukeG1: By the way, it's worth revisiting whether we want the link to only show up on the first page of search results
14:39 oleonard I'm ambivalent about it now
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14:42 oleonard I would like to recommend Bug 22804 if anyone is looking for a signoff. It requires OverDrive access, so I know it's not for everyone...
14:42 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , OPAC Overdrive JavaScript contains untranslatable strings
14:45 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23328: Some check-in messages should be dismissable <[…]d25675741b2ad0776>
14:55 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23237: Fix POD and typos <[…]4756a82f65c04b971>
14:55 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23237: Plugin allow [% INCLUDE %] from template <[…]de8d3cadea418694e>
14:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #21: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D9/21/
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15:06 reiveune bye
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15:24 oleonard ashimema: Bug 23339 rebased
15:24 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23339 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Reindent
15:24 ashimema thanks :)
15:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #337: UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/337/
15:28 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23339: (follow-up) Markup comments and corrections <[…]b14d7ba71cafc0f25>
15:28 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23339: Reindent <[…]7b71df8c3cc88218a>
15:32 Joubu ashimema: Jenkins certainly failing because of misc4dev bug, you should manually start a new run
15:33 ashimema koha-testing-docker is building.. so I think you're right
15:34 ashimema once that's good I should be able to re-run the last push :)
15:34 ashimema thanks
15:35 tcohen hi
15:35 tcohen ashimema: we are missing mtj's node
15:35 tcohen things will be slower
15:35 tcohen :-)
15:35 ashimema thanks for the heads up
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15:53 oleonard ashimema: It looks like Bug 11529 may have broken the holds queue report for some reason?
15:53 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11529 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Pushed to master , Add subtitle, medium and part fields to biblio table
15:53 oleonard It's now coming up empty for me even though the db has data in it
15:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #830: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/830/
16:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #338: ABORTED in 7 min 20 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/338/
16:03 tcohen ^^ that was me
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16:14 ashimema nooo
16:14 ashimema did we miss something oleonard
16:14 * ashimema tests
16:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #317: UNSTABLE in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/317/
16:15 ashimema this one right: /cgi-bin/koha/circ/
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16:17 ashimema :(
16:17 ashimema I can replicate the issue
16:20 Joubu there is an SQL error
16:21 Joubu there is a comma missing
16:22 Joubu C4/
16:22 ashimema so there is..
16:23 ashimema tanks Joubu.. you got there moments before me.. I'd just spotted the error but hadn't got to the missing comma yet :)
16:25 ashimema fix pushed
16:25 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: (RM follow-up) Fix missing comma in query <[…]715a1dc2d84b9200a>
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16:26 ashimema If that's the only fallout from that bug I'll be super happy :)
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16:26 ashimema It's been well tested by lots of people.. but it's still a fairly big change
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16:59 oleonard ashimema: Better to have stuff break sometimes than never make progress
17:00 * oleonard says, breaking things
17:05 oleonard Joubu++
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17:09 Joubu ashimema: are you on the other failures?
17:09 Joubu I am looking at the www tests, you can fix the missing filters ;)
17:09 ashimema just about to be.. not looked at them yet.. had to pause to take daughter to martial arts
17:09 ashimema ta
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17:24 ashimema hmm
17:24 ashimema these filters may be false failures..
17:24 ashimema we don't worry about filters in FOREACH blocks so I'm not sure we should worry about them in a WHILE block either..
17:25 * ashimema refers to guidlines.. we don't discourage WHILE do we.. I can't see any other use of it in our templates.
17:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #318: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/318/
17:37 ashimema Joubu: still around?
17:39 Joubu yup
17:40 ashimema do you agree with my final followup on 11529 ?
17:40 ashimema adding WHILE to the recognised directives list in the QA filters test tool?
17:40 ashimema I initially thought why not use a FOR.. but actually I see why he's doing it.. for interleaving purposes to WHILE makes sense.. I think
17:41 ashimema in which case I think it needs the same treatments as FOR loops.. just wanted to make sure you agreed as more of an expert in this area than me :)
17:42 Joubu yes, definitely, someone asked for that already (cannot remember who/when/where)
17:43 ashimema brill, thanks
17:43 Joubu Maybe on a separate bug report, for backporting purpose
17:43 ashimema pushed then :)
17:43 ashimema thanks
17:43 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: (RM follow-up) Add WHILE to directive list <[…]f54e747ba047c9c9e>
17:43 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 11529: Prevent too many spaces/break lines in the title tag <[…]bf7c0546ca8fed695>
17:44 Joubu[…]t-tools/issues/17
17:45 Joubu And it's the same line I guess :)
17:45 ashimema hmm.. you are likely right..
17:45 ashimema I'll add a bug for it retrospectively now
17:45 oleonard Joubu thanks for testing Bug 23013!
17:45 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade DataTables in the staff client
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17:45 oleonard Joubu: Did you rebuild the staff client CSS?
17:46 Joubu nope!
17:47 Joubu ha, better!
17:47 * ashimema is really happy to see that one moving :)
17:48 ashimema Joubu.. I see you've rebased a few of your bigger projects.. any preference on order I should attack them?
17:51 Joubu bug 15522 (and the 2 deps) and bug 20443 (not ready but I am stuck and need help)
17:51 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , New interface for revamped circulation rules
17:51 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20443 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move C4::Members::Attributes to Koha namespace
17:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #340: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/340/
17:53 Joubu and I have a local branch (apparently I did not submit it yet) where I remove AddItem/ModItem
17:54 ashimema nice
17:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #832: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/832/
17:57 ashimema also.. I'm keen to get a QA eye on bug 20307.. I found I couldn't easily do it any simpler..  it looks good.. though I tihnk it may benefit from a few more unit tests ;)
17:57 ashimema I'll be trying to find a friendly QAer for it soon.. just thought you'd like the heads up
17:57 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20307 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Language overlay for authorized values
17:58 Joubu thanks!
17:59 lydell Does anyone know if it's possible to adjust the barcode alignment to be centered similar to the text in a barcode/biblio layout? We recently updated from Koha 16.11 to 19.05 and the barcodes are no longer centered on the labels
17:59 * ashimema goes for the collection of child run
17:59 ashimema brb
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18:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:49 wahanui Congratulations!
18:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #319: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/319/
18:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:50 wahanui Congratulations!
18:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #833: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/833/
18:59 oleonard See y'all later
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19:22 asdsada hello All
19:23 asdsada what do you like about koha?
19:31 caroline_catlady asdsada: it's user-friendly and customizable, so it's suitable for libraries of all types and sizes
19:31 asdsada are you engineer, was it hard to set it up?
19:32 caroline_catlady asdsada: no I'm a librarian
19:33 asdsada did you set it up?
19:33 asdsada or someone else did for you?
19:34 caroline_catlady I work in a support company, so my colleagues install the software for our clients. I do the configuration
19:35 asdsada I see
19:35 caroline_catlady It's a company that has been around for more than 10 years so they have their process pretty much down to a T. When I tell them to create a new installation, 5-10 minutes later I have it ready
20:00 asdsada so you work for support company
20:00 asdsada or you work for library
20:01 caroline_catlady I work for a support company, but I am a librarian
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20:25 lydell Does anyone know how to center a barcode in a label creator layout? I can center the text, but the barcode doesn't get centered
20:25 caroline_catlady If I remember correctly, you have to play with the left text margin
20:28 lydell Ok, that looks like it might actually help. If I understand right, the left text margin doesn't actually move centered text, but does affect the barcode?
20:29 caroline_catlady That's what I remember too
20:30 caroline_catlady It's been a while since I did barcode, and my brain has erase this trauma from its memories
20:31 lydell Lol, that's definitely understandable! It looks like adjusting the left text margin will allow me to center the barcode. Thank you!
20:31 caroline_catlady no prob!
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21:22 davidnind caroline_catlady: is it okay if I add the education meeting to the Koha YouTube channel?
21:22 caroline_catlady sure!
21:22 davidnind thanks!
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21:33 caroline_catlady anyone good with TT in notices around? I'm trying to use an IF and it doesn't seem to be working
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