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vfernandes |
hi #koha |
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* cait |
waves at davidnind |
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cait |
thanks :) |
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davidnind |
cait++ |
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cait |
alex_a: was item search your baby? |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
trying to see if ic an help a new German user on bug 23402 |
| 10:08 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23402 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Similar to #19706: Item search doesn't work with screen selected |
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cait |
or maybe someone else coudl give it a try? |
| 10:37 |
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davidnind |
cait: I ran a quick test on the 19.05.02 instance I have running and didn't get any error messages - didn't specify a specific item, just got all the results |
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cait |
super odd |
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cait |
could you comment? |
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cait |
hm probably missed him |
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cait |
davidnind++ thx for testing |
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davidnind |
have added commet |
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cait |
oh great ,thx |
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cait |
btw #koha - I am on vacation next week |
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davidnind |
cait: have good break! |
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cait |
thx :) |
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davidnind |
cait: Do you know the best way to change a merge request? In this case it is for the manual, and I'd like to get Holly to rename the image and to crop it so it only shows the relevant bit. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
i think she canjust make the changes on her branch |
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cait |
the merge request will automatically update |
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cait |
they are still linked |
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davidnind |
thanks cait, I'll ask her to update it and then go from there, will see what happens! |
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magnuse |
davidnind++ |
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caroline_catlady |
bonjour! |
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magnuse |
hello caroline_catlady |
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caroline_catlady |
cait around? Or anyone doing training? |
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oleonard |
Hi everyone, sorry I'm late. |
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caroline_catlady |
oleonard are you the Koha administrator in your library? |
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caroline_catlady |
(like do people come to you when they have questions on functionalities?) |
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oleonard |
Only in the staff client administration sense. ByWater runs our server |
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caroline_catlady |
Do you ever have to explain circulation rules? |
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oleonard |
Yes, frequently XD |
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caroline_catlady |
I'm having so much trouble explaining the "All item types" rules... It makes perfect sense to me, but when I explain them people look at me with big empty eyes |
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oleonard |
Talking to librarians? |
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caroline_catlady |
yes |
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caroline_catlady |
the systems librarians or the library director if the library doesn't have a systems librarian |
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caroline_catlady |
The way I explain it is that Koha looks at each rule from top to bottom and stop when it finds a rule that matches. |
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caroline_catlady |
So if you have Patron category XYZ and All item types, of course it's going to stop there |
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oleonard |
Maybe our rules aren't complicated enough to have caused confusion |
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caroline_catlady |
good for you! lol :) |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
good morning |
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wizzyrea |
how we doin fam |
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oleonard |
I is doin fine. Kids are panicking a little about it being August. |
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calire |
what happens in August? |
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oleonard |
School starts at the end of the month |
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calire |
oooh |
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oleonard |
The system preferences interface rabbit hole goes so deep |
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* kidclamp |
looks at the can of worms. looks at the opener, pushes them to oleoonard |
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oleonard |
The whole business of these lines in system preferences which are just notes... They seem to apply to categories of preferences which don't really exist |
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oleonard |
Their placement is kind of random |
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oleonard |
"Using resources such as external images might leak sensitive data to third parties" That's under the Adlibris preferences, but applies to all the 3rd party services |
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kidclamp |
interesting |
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oleonard |
We have a section called "All" which has the FRBRizeEditions prefs, and the note "you can only choose one source of cover images from below, otherwise Koha will show the images from all sources selected. " |
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oleonard |
It's like we need to have (and display) a third layer of categorization |
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oleonard |
All I wanted to do was keep my little system preference link copier from showing up on those dumb notes lines and now I can't see daylight |
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reiveune |
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* oleonard |
will bbiab |
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Guest8927 |
hi, could anyone tell me if it is possible to make the item field e "source of acquisition" a drop-down selection? |
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caroline_catlady |
Guest8927: yes it is possible, you have to create an authorized values list and then link that list to the 952$e field in your MARC framwork |
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Guest8927 |
okay thank you very much caroline :D |
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caroline_catlady |
no problem! |
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* caroline_catlady |
loves authorized values |
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Guest8927 |
lol that's cool |
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Guest8927 |
trying it out at the moment |
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lisettelatah |
on a similar note is there a way to link an authorized value list to the collection title on the "Enter a new Purchase Suggestion" page? |
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caroline_catlady |
in the staff client? |
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caroline_catlady |
Just checked and no, I don't think so |
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caroline_catlady |
:( |
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oleonard |
I don't even know what collection title is for |
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oleonard |
I assume it wasn't intended to be collection code... If so it's unfinished |
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caroline_catlady |
I think it's for when publishers have collections |
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* caroline_catlady |
is trying to think of an example is english but is failing |
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oleonard |
There's always been a tension between tailoring that form for the general public and making it very specific |
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lisettelatah |
It would be nice if we could do extra fields, similar to extra patron attributes to better customize the form. We are planning on putting in a bunch of JQ soon to hide some fields we don't want and rename some of them to gather information we do want. |
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caroline_catlady |
yeah, I think JQ is the only way to go for now. But you won't be able to add fields... |
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oleonard |
We need a "SuggestionUnwantedFields" similar to what we have for the patron entry form |
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Guest8927 |
hi caroline, so i just finished trying what you said |
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lisettelatah |
Agreed. there is a bug for adding custom fields 21329 and there was some discussion there about putting in another bug for SuggestionUnwantedFields, but no one ever put that bug in. I'll do that now. |
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Guest8927 |
but when I finished the first segment of entering data, and move into the add item section of staff client |
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Guest8927 |
it doesn't give the drop down |
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Guest8927 |
was your suggestion only for the first segment of adding to catalogue and not the second where the items section is? |
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caroline_catlady |
the first segment was creating an authorized values list |
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caroline_catlady |
the second was going into Administration > MARC Bibliographic Framework and editing subfield 952$e to add the authorized values list |
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lisettelatah |
Added SuggestionUnwanted Fields as bug 23420 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add "SuggestionsUnwantedFields" |
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caroline_catlady |
lisettelatah++ |
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Guest8927 |
had done that :( |
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caroline_catlady |
:( |
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Guest8927 |
i did it incorrectly lol |
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Guest8927 |
i put it in advanced options and not other options > authorised values |
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caroline_catlady |
stupid question, are you using the same framework when cataloguing? |
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Guest8927 |
i'm sorry caroline |
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Guest8927 |
forgive me |
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Guest8927 |
lol |
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caroline_catlady |
ah opk! |
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Guest8927 |
trying it again |
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caroline_catlady |
good! |
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Guest8927 |
it works but not in the way i would like lol |
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Guest8927 |
952e removes the source of acquisition from items. is there a way to make it general without being restricted to framework? |
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caroline_catlady |
what do you mean it removes it? |
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Guest8927 |
well, so after the add bibliographic holdings (if i am getting the term right) |
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Guest8927 |
the add item information part that comes after it |
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caroline_catlady |
and it's not in the item form anymore? |
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Guest8927 |
has a section for "source of acquisition" |
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Guest8927 |
since placing the option in 952$e |
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Guest8927 |
it disappears |
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Guest8927 |
yes that is correct caroline |
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caroline_catlady |
can you send me a screeshot of the framework options that you put in? |
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caroline_catlady |
(Sorry, I'm very visual) |
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caroline_catlady |
Guest8927: I did it for one client, heres what it looks like Basic constraints https://snag.gy/8Qsek9.jpg / Advanced constraints https://snag.gy/ox7t8L.jpg / Other options https://snag.gy/Jjmbu5.jpg |
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caroline_catlady |
Going to lunch bbl |
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Guest8927 |
alright cool, i am in a meeting so bbl for me too |
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Guest8927 |
@caroline, https://snag.gy/XaRV6P.jpg is before adding the constraint and https://snag.gy/inxTy9.jpg is after adding the constraint |
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huginn` |
Guest8927: downloading the Perl source |
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Guest8927 |
you will notice that "e" has disappeared |
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caroline_catlady |
Guest8927: if you remove the auth values list, does the e come back? |
| 17:46 |
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Guest8927 |
from the link |
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Guest8927 |
checking |
| 17:49 |
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Guest8927 |
when i take it out and turn off 952 field it returns |
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caroline_catlady |
what do you mean by "turn off 952" ? |
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Guest8927 |
okay, when i hide 952 field from bibliographic entry, the drop down now shows in the items entry :) |
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Guest8927 |
but only for the specific framework |
| 17:51 |
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Guest8927 |
so seems i will have to set the constraint for each framework XD |
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caroline_catlady |
oh yes, that is the normal behaviour |
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Guest8927 |
okay, cool |
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Guest8927 |
thank you very much for your patience and help caroline :D |
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caroline_catlady |
no problem! I'm glad it worked in the end! :) |
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Guest8927 |
yup :) |
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Guest8927 |
now i can go on lunch as well lol |
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Guest8927 |
that's it for the day |
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caroline_catlady |
have a good lunch and weekend! |
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caroline_catlady |
is it normal behaviour that I don't see my basket when everything in it has been received? I don't remember it that way, but maybe it is |
| 21:43 |
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caroline_catlady |
(in acquisitions) |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
but there is a little checkbox on top |
| 21:43 |
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cait |
that will make the fully received ones visible |
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caroline_catlady |
lol, I wasn't expecting an answer at this time! I thought no one was there ;) |
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cait |
boo :) |
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caroline_catlady |
is that new (the "Show all baskets")? |
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cait |
nope |
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cait |
sorry :) |
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cait |
not sure about the exact version, but it#s been a while |
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cait |
the issue was too many baskets in the search for libraries using the module for a long time, so default is only showing the ones where not all has been received |
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caroline_catlady |
ok, just never noticed it before now :) |
| 21:48 |
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caroline_catlady |
Adding that tidbit to the manual |
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cait |
cool! |
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caroline_catlady |
have a good weekend everyone! |
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