IRC log for #koha, 2019-07-24

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05:26 fridolin hi
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06:32 mtj hey peeps
06:32 cait1 hi mtj
06:36 mtj hi cait1, i did get to the bottom of my callnumber search problem..
06:36 mtj ..there was some custom 'OpacCustomSearch' syspref code, that broke the search
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06:38 reiveune hello
06:40 cait1 mtj: that makes sense
06:41 cait1 but I can see why you didn't find it right away
06:41 cait1 I always forget that even exists
06:41 cait1 mtj:  ^
06:42 mtj yes, me too
06:43 mtj it took me a while to get to the bottom of the problem :/
06:45 mtj i clicked that it was some syspref(s) causing the problem - but took a while to discover which syspref
06:45 mtj thanks again for spotting my problem :0)
06:47 mtj ping liz, if you are about re: 18.05.x release
06:48 mtj cait1: i'll do a reply to the ICU thread on the ML
06:49 cait1 you'll need to loook for wizzyrea :)
07:01 mtj ta
07:01 mtj @later tell wizzyrea:  hiya, are you about re: 18.05.x release
07:01 huginn` mtj: The operation succeeded.
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11:41 ashimema Oh poop,
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11:42 * ashimema realises he's double booked himself this evening
11:59 liliputech_asu ashimema: dev meetup tonight?
12:10 eythian ashimema: to hot to do anything anyway
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13:25 caroline_catlady good morning!
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13:27 wizzyrea hi
13:27 wahanui salut, wizzyrea
13:35 eythian Hi wizzyrea
13:35 eythian damn, I was going to send you something but I forgot what it was.
13:35 eythian So imagine I sent  you a link that was really cool.
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13:49 ashimema Glad it's not my brain that's good for naught today.. dang this heat
14:17 wizzyrea omg eythian that link was so cool you sent
14:18 * wizzyrea has a good imagination
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19:29 cait hi all
19:29 cait meeting soon?
19:30 cait @eightball dev meeting tonight?
19:30 huginn` cait: You know the answer better than I.
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19:31 cait hi davidnind
19:31 cait so far it seems it's you and me :)
19:31 caroline_catlady I'm here too, but I didn't plan on participating
19:31 caroline_catlady it's a dev meeting right?
19:31 cait i didn't plan on chairing
19:31 davidnind hi cait! :-D
19:31 cait I am not home
19:31 cait thx for both your help with the project day
19:31 davidnind hi caroline_catlady!
19:31 alexbuckley hi all
19:31 greenjimll I'm here for the meeting too - is it going ahead?
19:31 caroline_catlady hi davidnind!
19:31 cait filling up
19:32 cait let's give it a minute more?
19:32 davidnind agenda - there are some apologies https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_24_July_2019
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19:33 cait hm I don't knwo if i can stay for the whole meeting
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19:33 cait i could chair a quick one, but we miight have to postone some of the guidelines stuff
19:34 cait maybe someone else can help out better?
19:34 davidnind that sounds sensible, probably need the people to talk about the coding guidelines here anyway
19:35 cait ok, going to prepare the startmeeting
19:35 davidnind happy to chair, a quick meeting is a good meeting (sometimes)
19:35 kidclamp hi there
19:35 cait oh great
19:35 kidclamp sorry can help too cait
19:35 cait maybe kidclamp and davidnind then? :)
19:35 davidnind fine with me
19:36 davidnind give me a seck
19:36 kidclamp lemme knwo and I wil start it
19:37 davidnind was just trying to find the instructions, ready to go!
19:37 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019
19:37 huginn` Meeting started Wed Jul 24 19:37:45 2019 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at
19:37 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
19:37 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
19:37 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_24_july_2019'
19:37 greenjimll #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University
19:37 kidclamp #topic Introductions
19:37 Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
19:38 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, bywater solutions
19:38 alexbuckley #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT Wellington NZ
19:38 hayley #info Hayley Mapley, Catalyst IT Wellington NZ
19:38 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
19:38 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington NZ
19:38 cait :)
19:39 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
19:39 kidclamp #topic Announcements
19:39 Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
19:39 kidclamp Anyone? Community day!
19:40 cait yes, on phone - wah
19:40 davidnind #info https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Day_26_July_2019
19:40 davidnind A nice list of things to work on, so shaping up quite nicely! Thanks cait for kicking off!
19:41 davidnind There is a hashtag for Twitter, thanks Catalyst IT! #KohaCommunityDay
19:42 hayley We're very excited for it! :)
19:42 davidnind excellent!
19:42 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
19:42 cait sorry :)
19:43 cait thx for helping out :)
19:43 cait hope my tweets were friendly - just wanted to make sure everyone undrestands this is ot only focused at dev
19:43 alexbuckley we're happy to help cait :)
19:43 cait the main idea is to bring community together
19:43 cait get us talking again, working on fun things...
19:43 kidclamp I am gonna admit, I missed some of this discussion, is it like bigger bug squashing day?
19:43 kidclamp ah, oka
19:43 cait yeah the idea was to have a wider focus than just bug squashing
19:44 greenjimll Sorry - I promoted it on twitter as more dev based, but I see cait has corrected that. Sorry.
19:44 cait of course you can sqhash bugs, ubt if you want to do stats, or cook, or write or proof read... whatever :)
19:44 cait yeah i hope that didn't come across wrong!
19:44 cait very glad to see the advertising
19:44 greenjimll More me misunderstanding the purpose of it. Sorry.
19:44 cait all good
19:45 kidclamp moving on?
19:45 cait checking the infos sec
19:45 cait cool, yes
19:45 davidnind #info BibLibre's Koha Hackfest 2019: 30 September - 4th October, Marseille
19:46 davidnind (just thought I'd put that in there as a reminder)
19:46 kidclamp excellent
19:46 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
19:46 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (19.11)
19:46 Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (19.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
19:46 kidclamp #info Oh great and powerful RM, we thank you for the benevolence you bestow upon our patches
19:47 kidclamp Martin is doing great, but is occupied tonight
19:47 kidclamp Watch the bugs, keep things moving
19:47 kidclamp we are still in his "adventurous' pushing phase so big things are good
19:47 davidnind Update is on agenda page from ashimema: moving into a period of more adventurous pushing  now.. two months before I get much more cautious again and start of a  polishing for release phase
19:49 kidclamp movign on
19:49 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
19:49 Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
19:49 kidclamp frido lukeg wizzyrea
19:51 davidnind #info maintenance releases now available - 18.11.08, 19.05.02
19:51 kidclamp moving on
19:51 kidclamp #info Updates from the QA team
19:51 kidclamp cait?
19:51 wahanui somebody said cait was really good at running into things
19:52 cait sorry phone again
19:52 kidclamp np
19:52 cait #info Fix all the bugs
19:52 kidclamp :-)
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19:53 kidclamp signed off queue has many bugs, some large, could use some attention to move those
19:53 kidclamp NSO growing as well
19:53 kidclamp communityday++
19:54 josef_moravec1 #info Josef Moravec, sorry being late
19:54 kidclamp cait++
19:54 kidclamp weekly emails are appreciated
19:54 kidclamp I read them even when I can't take action :-)
19:54 kidclamp moving on?
19:55 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
19:55 Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
19:55 kidclamp #info Discussion on workflows with regards maintaining the mana-kb serverside project
19:56 kidclamp #info See Bug 23161 - Alex A (Biblibre) and the Release Team
19:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23161 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , We need to document the release process for this project?
19:57 kidclamp I think we need BibLibre here for this, and maybe something to fully iron out at hackfest. BUt brainstorm next meeting at earlier time?
19:57 davidnind sounds good, need ashimema here too for that as well I think
19:57 kidclamp #info tabled for next meeting
19:57 kidclamp #info git repository splitting and cleanup - Chris C and Jonathan D
19:58 kidclamp I think still a bit early for Rangi
19:58 kidclamp and Joubu is having all the  fun :-)
19:58 greenjimll I assume git repro splitting may make bringing up/updating KohaDevBox's easier/faster?
19:59 kidclamp splitting off the translation I assume?
19:59 kidclamp it has come up before
19:59 kidclamp I'm for it
20:00 greenjimll https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_and_Shrinking
20:00 kidclamp #info https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_and_Shrinking
20:01 kidclamp I tihnk again we need some parties for discussion
20:01 kidclamp #info tabled for next meeting
20:01 kidclamp #topic Review of coding guidelines
20:01 Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
20:01 kidclamp #info Bug 22600 introduced a base class for commandline scripts, but we forgot to followup with a guidline and qa script change to catch new scripts without the base class.
20:01 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22600 blocker, P2, ---, martin.renvoize, RESOLVED FIXED, We should add an 'interface' field to accountlines
20:02 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uidelines#Scripts
20:03 kidclamp I am for it, I think we should add the guieline
20:03 kidclamp do we need a vote?
20:03 davidnind looks good to me, so I think it should be added
20:03 davidnind not sure..
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20:04 davidnind do you normally vote on coding guideline changes, or if everyone agrees just accept?
20:04 greenjimll I'd vote for it.
20:04 kidclamp #startvote Should we add coding guideline Scripts - CMD1 as proposed on the wiki? yes,no,abstain
20:04 huginn` Begin voting on: Should we add coding guideline Scripts - CMD1 as proposed on the wiki? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain.
20:04 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
20:04 kidclamp #vote yes
20:04 josef_moravec1 #vote yes
20:04 alexbuckley #vote yes
20:04 davidnind #vote yes
20:04 greenjimll #vote yes
20:05 hayley #vote yes
20:05 thd #vote yes
20:06 kidclamp #endvote
20:06 huginn` Voted on "Should we add coding guideline Scripts - CMD1 as proposed on the wiki?" Results are
20:06 huginn` yes (7): greenjimll, davidnind, kidclamp, josef_moravec1, alexbuckley, thd, hayley
20:06 kidclamp hooray
20:06 cait sorry, got to run!
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20:06 kidclamp #info SQL12: Enforcing it more easily with a QA script addition and updating existing breakages - Tomas and Jonathan D
20:07 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s#SQL12:_Booleans SQL12
20:07 kidclamp I agree with and support their work :-)
20:08 kidclamp moving on?
20:09 davidnind does it need to be voted on, or is it a work in progress?
20:10 kidclamp seems to be a bug and pull request
20:10 kidclamp the guideline is in place I believe
20:10 greenjimll The stuff says its awaiting a merge request?
20:11 greenjimll[…]merge_requests/12
20:11 kidclamp so is for someone who has merge powers
20:11 davidnind so general support for them to go ahead with this, which is great!
20:11 kidclamp Joubu++
20:12 kidclamp tcohen++
20:12 kidclamp movign on
20:12 davidnind #info general support for SQL12: Enforcing it more easily with a QA script addition and updating existing breakages
20:12 kidclamp #info Revise JavaScript coding guideline JS8 to recommend ESLint; Add a default .eslintrc.json file to Koha. - Owen L
20:13 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nes_set_by_JSHint JS8
20:14 kidclamp Owen isn't here, but it seems sane to me
20:14 kidclamp any questions or detractors?
20:14 davidnind none from me
20:14 josef_moravec1 I like that
20:15 greenjimll Seems sane.
20:15 alexbuckley looks sensible
20:15 kidclamp #startvote Should we update JS* as proposed by oleonard and adopt a default eslintrc.json file?
20:15 huginn` Begin voting on: Should we update JS* as proposed by oleonard and adopt a default eslintrc.json file? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
20:15 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
20:16 kidclamp #vote Yes
20:16 thd #vote yes
20:16 greenjimll #vote yes
20:16 josef_moravec1 #vote yes
20:16 davidnind #vote yes
20:16 hayley #vote yes
20:16 thd #vote Yes
20:16 kidclamp last call y'all
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20:16 kidclamp #endvote
20:16 huginn` Voted on "Should we update JS* as proposed by oleonard and adopt a default eslintrc.json file?" Results are
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20:17 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting
20:17 Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019)
20:17 greenjimll I liked the pause before (not) giving the results. Like Eurovision. :-)
20:18 hayley *ad break*
20:18 hayley hehe
20:18 kidclamp yes (6): greenjimll, davidnind, kidclamp, josef_moravec1, thd, hayley
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20:18 kidclamp August 7th, 14:00 UTC?
20:19 greenjimll Sounds good.
20:19 kathryn Hello, apols for barging into the meeting :)
20:19 thd What happened to 13.00 UTC?
20:20 thd or 13.30 UTC?
20:20 kidclamp fine by me
20:20 kidclamp I never remember the exact time
20:20 greenjimll As long as it goes in the Koha meeting Google calendar, I'm fine with any of those.
20:21 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 7 August 2019, 13:30 UTC
20:21 thd 14 is fine for me but checking what we had done historically 13.00 UTC has been common and the preferred time for many time zones from a one time poll.
20:21 alexbuckley the time of this meeting works really well for nz, but we totally get that its not suitable for others and appreciate it needs to alternate so August 7th, 14:00 UTC sounds good
20:22 thd Does 14.00 UTC work at all in NZ?
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20:22 kidclamp heh, I set 13:30 - we should mark these down somewhere as the 'approved' time'
20:22 kidclamp that's for next meeting :-)
20:22 davidnind
20:22 kidclamp #endmeeting
20:22 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
20:22 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Jul 24 20:22:47 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)
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20:22 hayley nah it's 1.30am, but that's okay :)
20:23 kidclamp yeah, that won't work for NZ :-)
20:23 davidnind kidclamp++
20:23 greenjimll Rightio... time to go outside and see if I'll melt on the walk home.
20:23 davidnind sending a cool breeze from down under...
20:24 davidnind might take a while to get there though!
20:24 alexbuckley got plenty to spare in wellington heh
20:24 hayley hehe true
20:24 greenjimll :-)
20:24 davidnind nice and 'fresh' here this morning!
20:24 greenjimll As a Brit we're not used to temps >25C. More so for those of us with more than average "fur". :-)
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20:49 caroline_catlady has anyone ever used link_bibs_to_authorities in production?
20:50 caroline_catlady I saw this comment on the wiki page and it scared me :) "(NB: this script is not very reliable -Jcamins) "
20:50 caroline_catlady https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Useful_scripts
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20:54 kidclamp we have
20:54 kidclamp it works well, with occasional quirks
20:54 kidclamp it does not work well under IUC
20:54 kidclamp ICU
20:55 * kidclamp runs off
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