Time Nick Message 05:26 fridolin hi 06:32 mtj hey peeps 06:32 cait1 hi mtj 06:36 mtj hi cait1, i did get to the bottom of my callnumber search problem.. 06:36 mtj ..there was some custom 'OpacCustomSearch' syspref code, that broke the search 06:38 reiveune hello 06:40 cait1 mtj: that makes sense 06:41 cait1 but I can see why you didn't find it right away 06:41 cait1 I always forget that even exists 06:41 cait1 mtj: ^ 06:42 mtj yes, me too 06:43 mtj it took me a while to get to the bottom of the problem :/ 06:45 mtj i clicked that it was some syspref(s) causing the problem - but took a while to discover which syspref 06:45 mtj thanks again for spotting my problem :0) 06:47 mtj ping liz, if you are about re: 18.05.x release 06:48 mtj cait1: i'll do a reply to the ICU thread on the ML 06:49 cait1 you'll need to loook for wizzyrea :) 07:01 mtj ta 07:01 mtj @later tell wizzyrea: hiya, are you about re: 18.05.x release 07:01 huginn` mtj: The operation succeeded. 11:41 ashimema Oh poop, 11:42 * ashimema realises he's double booked himself this evening 11:59 liliputech_asu ashimema: dev meetup tonight? 12:10 eythian ashimema: to hot to do anything anyway 13:25 caroline_catlady good morning! 13:27 wizzyrea hi 13:27 wahanui salut, wizzyrea 13:35 eythian Hi wizzyrea 13:35 eythian damn, I was going to send you something but I forgot what it was. 13:35 eythian So imagine I sent you a link that was really cool. 13:49 ashimema Glad it's not my brain that's good for naught today.. dang this heat 14:17 wizzyrea omg eythian that link was so cool you sent 14:18 * wizzyrea has a good imagination 15:41 reiveune bye 19:29 cait hi all 19:29 cait meeting soon? 19:30 cait @eightball dev meeting tonight? 19:30 huginn` cait: You know the answer better than I. 19:31 cait hi davidnind 19:31 cait so far it seems it's you and me :) 19:31 caroline_catlady I'm here too, but I didn't plan on participating 19:31 caroline_catlady it's a dev meeting right? 19:31 cait i didn't plan on chairing 19:31 davidnind hi cait! :-D 19:31 cait I am not home 19:31 cait thx for both your help with the project day 19:31 davidnind hi caroline_catlady! 19:31 alexbuckley hi all 19:31 greenjimll I'm here for the meeting too - is it going ahead? 19:31 caroline_catlady hi davidnind! 19:31 cait filling up 19:32 cait let's give it a minute more? 19:32 davidnind agenda - there are some apologies https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_24_July_2019 19:33 cait hm I don't knwo if i can stay for the whole meeting 19:33 cait i could chair a quick one, but we miight have to postone some of the guidelines stuff 19:34 cait maybe someone else can help out better? 19:34 davidnind that sounds sensible, probably need the people to talk about the coding guidelines here anyway 19:35 cait ok, going to prepare the startmeeting 19:35 davidnind happy to chair, a quick meeting is a good meeting (sometimes) 19:35 kidclamp hi there 19:35 cait oh great 19:35 kidclamp sorry can help too cait 19:35 cait maybe kidclamp and davidnind then? :) 19:35 davidnind fine with me 19:36 davidnind give me a seck 19:36 kidclamp lemme knwo and I wil start it 19:37 davidnind was just trying to find the instructions, ready to go! 19:37 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 24 July 2019 19:37 huginn` Meeting started Wed Jul 24 19:37:45 2019 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:37 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:37 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_24_july_2019' 19:37 greenjimll #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University 19:37 kidclamp #topic Introductions 19:38 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, bywater solutions 19:38 alexbuckley #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT Wellington NZ 19:38 hayley #info Hayley Mapley, Catalyst IT Wellington NZ 19:38 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:38 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington NZ 19:38 cait :) 19:39 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 19:39 kidclamp #topic Announcements 19:39 kidclamp Anyone? Community day! 19:40 cait yes, on phone - wah 19:40 davidnind #info https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Community_Project_Day_26_July_2019 19:40 davidnind A nice list of things to work on, so shaping up quite nicely! Thanks cait for kicking off! 19:41 davidnind There is a hashtag for Twitter, thanks Catalyst IT! #KohaCommunityDay 19:42 hayley We're very excited for it! :) 19:42 davidnind excellent! 19:42 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 19:42 cait sorry :) 19:43 cait thx for helping out :) 19:43 cait hope my tweets were friendly - just wanted to make sure everyone undrestands this is ot only focused at dev 19:43 alexbuckley we're happy to help cait :) 19:43 cait the main idea is to bring community together 19:43 cait get us talking again, working on fun things... 19:43 kidclamp I am gonna admit, I missed some of this discussion, is it like bigger bug squashing day? 19:43 kidclamp ah, oka 19:43 cait yeah the idea was to have a wider focus than just bug squashing 19:44 greenjimll Sorry - I promoted it on twitter as more dev based, but I see cait has corrected that. Sorry. 19:44 cait of course you can sqhash bugs, ubt if you want to do stats, or cook, or write or proof read... whatever :) 19:44 cait yeah i hope that didn't come across wrong! 19:44 cait very glad to see the advertising 19:44 greenjimll More me misunderstanding the purpose of it. Sorry. 19:44 cait all good 19:45 kidclamp moving on? 19:45 cait checking the infos sec 19:45 cait cool, yes 19:45 davidnind #info BibLibre's Koha Hackfest 2019: 30 September - 4th October, Marseille 19:46 davidnind (just thought I'd put that in there as a reminder) 19:46 kidclamp excellent 19:46 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 19:46 kidclamp #topic Update from the Release manager (19.11) 19:46 kidclamp #info Oh great and powerful RM, we thank you for the benevolence you bestow upon our patches 19:47 kidclamp Martin is doing great, but is occupied tonight 19:47 kidclamp Watch the bugs, keep things moving 19:47 kidclamp we are still in his "adventurous' pushing phase so big things are good 19:47 davidnind Update is on agenda page from ashimema: moving into a period of more adventurous pushing now.. two months before I get much more cautious again and start of a polishing for release phase 19:49 kidclamp movign on 19:49 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 19:49 kidclamp frido lukeg wizzyrea 19:51 davidnind #info maintenance releases now available - 18.11.08, 19.05.02 19:51 kidclamp moving on 19:51 kidclamp #info Updates from the QA team 19:51 kidclamp cait? 19:51 wahanui somebody said cait was really good at running into things 19:52 cait sorry phone again 19:52 kidclamp np 19:52 cait #info Fix all the bugs 19:52 kidclamp :-) 19:53 kidclamp signed off queue has many bugs, some large, could use some attention to move those 19:53 kidclamp NSO growing as well 19:53 kidclamp communityday++ 19:54 josef_moravec1 #info Josef Moravec, sorry being late 19:54 kidclamp cait++ 19:54 kidclamp weekly emails are appreciated 19:54 kidclamp I read them even when I can't take action :-) 19:54 kidclamp moving on? 19:55 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 19:55 kidclamp #info Discussion on workflows with regards maintaining the mana-kb serverside project 19:56 kidclamp #info See Bug 23161 - Alex A (Biblibre) and the Release Team 19:56 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23161 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , We need to document the release process for this project? 19:57 kidclamp I think we need BibLibre here for this, and maybe something to fully iron out at hackfest. BUt brainstorm next meeting at earlier time? 19:57 davidnind sounds good, need ashimema here too for that as well I think 19:57 kidclamp #info tabled for next meeting 19:57 kidclamp #info git repository splitting and cleanup - Chris C and Jonathan D 19:58 kidclamp I think still a bit early for Rangi 19:58 kidclamp and Joubu is having all the fun :-) 19:58 greenjimll I assume git repro splitting may make bringing up/updating KohaDevBox's easier/faster? 19:59 kidclamp splitting off the translation I assume? 19:59 kidclamp it has come up before 19:59 kidclamp I'm for it 20:00 greenjimll https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_Splitting_and_Shrinking 20:00 kidclamp #info https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_Splitting_and_Shrinking 20:01 kidclamp I tihnk again we need some parties for discussion 20:01 kidclamp #info tabled for next meeting 20:01 kidclamp #topic Review of coding guidelines 20:01 kidclamp #info Bug 22600 introduced a base class for commandline scripts, but we forgot to followup with a guidline and qa script change to catch new scripts without the base class. 20:01 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22600 blocker, P2, ---, martin.renvoize, RESOLVED FIXED, We should add an 'interface' field to accountlines 20:02 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Talk:Coding_Guidelines#Scripts 20:03 kidclamp I am for it, I think we should add the guieline 20:03 kidclamp do we need a vote? 20:03 davidnind looks good to me, so I think it should be added 20:03 davidnind not sure.. 20:04 davidnind do you normally vote on coding guideline changes, or if everyone agrees just accept? 20:04 greenjimll I'd vote for it. 20:04 kidclamp #startvote Should we add coding guideline Scripts - CMD1 as proposed on the wiki? yes,no,abstain 20:04 huginn` Begin voting on: Should we add coding guideline Scripts - CMD1 as proposed on the wiki? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. 20:04 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:04 kidclamp #vote yes 20:04 josef_moravec1 #vote yes 20:04 alexbuckley #vote yes 20:04 davidnind #vote yes 20:04 greenjimll #vote yes 20:05 hayley #vote yes 20:05 thd #vote yes 20:06 kidclamp #endvote 20:06 huginn` Voted on "Should we add coding guideline Scripts - CMD1 as proposed on the wiki?" Results are 20:06 huginn` yes (7): greenjimll, davidnind, kidclamp, josef_moravec1, alexbuckley, thd, hayley 20:06 kidclamp hooray 20:06 cait sorry, got to run! 20:06 kidclamp #info SQL12: Enforcing it more easily with a QA script addition and updating existing breakages - Tomas and Jonathan D 20:07 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#SQL12:_Booleans SQL12 20:07 kidclamp I agree with and support their work :-) 20:08 kidclamp moving on? 20:09 davidnind does it need to be voted on, or is it a work in progress? 20:10 kidclamp seems to be a bug and pull request 20:10 kidclamp the guideline is in place I believe 20:10 greenjimll The gitlab.com stuff says its awaiting a merge request? 20:11 greenjimll https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools/merge_requests/12 20:11 kidclamp so is for someone who has merge powers 20:11 davidnind so general support for them to go ahead with this, which is great! 20:11 kidclamp Joubu++ 20:12 kidclamp tcohen++ 20:12 kidclamp movign on 20:12 davidnind #info general support for SQL12: Enforcing it more easily with a QA script addition and updating existing breakages 20:12 kidclamp #info Revise JavaScript coding guideline JS8 to recommend ESLint; Add a default .eslintrc.json file to Koha. - Owen L 20:13 kidclamp #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#JS8:_Follow_guidelines_set_by_JSHint JS8 20:14 kidclamp Owen isn't here, but it seems sane to me 20:14 kidclamp any questions or detractors? 20:14 davidnind none from me 20:14 josef_moravec1 I like that 20:15 greenjimll Seems sane. 20:15 alexbuckley looks sensible 20:15 kidclamp #startvote Should we update JS* as proposed by oleonard and adopt a default eslintrc.json file? 20:15 huginn` Begin voting on: Should we update JS* as proposed by oleonard and adopt a default eslintrc.json file? Valid vote options are Yes, No. 20:15 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:16 kidclamp #vote Yes 20:16 thd #vote yes 20:16 greenjimll #vote yes 20:16 josef_moravec1 #vote yes 20:16 davidnind #vote yes 20:16 hayley #vote yes 20:16 thd #vote Yes 20:16 kidclamp last call y'all 20:16 kidclamp #endvote 20:16 huginn` Voted on "Should we update JS* as proposed by oleonard and adopt a default eslintrc.json file?" Results are 20:17 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting 20:17 greenjimll I liked the pause before (not) giving the results. Like Eurovision. :-) 20:18 hayley *ad break* 20:18 hayley hehe 20:18 kidclamp yes (6): greenjimll, davidnind, kidclamp, josef_moravec1, thd, hayley 20:18 kidclamp August 7th, 14:00 UTC? 20:19 greenjimll Sounds good. 20:19 kathryn Hello, apols for barging into the meeting :) 20:19 thd What happened to 13.00 UTC? 20:20 thd or 13.30 UTC? 20:20 kidclamp fine by me 20:20 kidclamp I never remember the exact time 20:20 greenjimll As long as it goes in the Koha meeting Google calendar, I'm fine with any of those. 20:21 kidclamp #info Next meeting: 7 August 2019, 13:30 UTC 20:21 thd 14 is fine for me but checking what we had done historically 13.00 UTC has been common and the preferred time for many time zones from a one time poll. 20:21 alexbuckley the time of this meeting works really well for nz, but we totally get that its not suitable for others and appreciate it needs to alternate so August 7th, 14:00 UTC sounds good 20:22 thd Does 14.00 UTC work at all in NZ? 20:22 kidclamp heh, I set 13:30 - we should mark these down somewhere as the 'approved' time' 20:22 kidclamp that's for next meeting :-) 20:22 davidnind https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings 20:22 kidclamp #endmeeting 20:22 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Jul 24 20:22:47 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:22 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_24_july_2019.2019-07-24-19.37.html 20:22 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_24_july_2019.2019-07-24-19.37.txt 20:22 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_24_july_2019.2019-07-24-19.37.log.html 20:22 hayley nah it's 1.30am, but that's okay :) 20:23 kidclamp yeah, that won't work for NZ :-) 20:23 davidnind kidclamp++ 20:23 greenjimll Rightio... time to go outside and see if I'll melt on the walk home. 20:23 davidnind sending a cool breeze from down under... 20:24 davidnind might take a while to get there though! 20:24 alexbuckley got plenty to spare in wellington heh 20:24 hayley hehe true 20:24 greenjimll :-) 20:24 davidnind nice and 'fresh' here this morning! 20:24 greenjimll As a Brit we're not used to temps >25C. More so for those of us with more than average "fur". :-) 20:49 caroline_catlady has anyone ever used link_bibs_to_authorities in production? 20:50 caroline_catlady I saw this comment on the wiki page and it scared me :) "(NB: this script is not very reliable -Jcamins) " 20:50 caroline_catlady https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Useful_scripts 20:54 kidclamp we have 20:54 kidclamp it works well, with occasional quirks 20:54 kidclamp it does not work well under IUC 20:54 kidclamp ICU 20:55 * kidclamp runs off