IRC log for #koha, 2019-06-20

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05:57 fridolin hi
05:57 wahanui salut, fridolin
05:57 fridolin wahanui: oh peuchèreu comment va ?
05:57 wahanui fridolin: no idea
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07:03 alex_a bonjour
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07:37 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21073: (QA follow-up) Fix plugin-related tests <[…]309e71e9dd9e38039>
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08:03 liliputech_asu hi koha :)
08:07 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:07 wahanui Congratulations!
08:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #775: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/775/
08:07 cait hi liliputech_asu
08:07 cait hi #koha
08:12 davidnind hi cait!
08:14 cait hi davidnind :)
08:15 ashimema mornin' #koha
08:15 davidnind cait: thanks for signing off bug 23130
08:15 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23130 trivial, P5 - low, ---, david, Passed QA , Incorrect alternative mana server URL in etc/koha-conf.xml
08:16 cait sure :)
08:16 davidnind (my first ever patch, even though it is pretty trivial!...)
08:16 cait oh!
08:16 cait i didn't know that
08:17 Nemo_bis_ congrats!
08:17 cait that's really great, hopefully not the last :)
08:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #271: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/271/
08:17 cait it still makes em so happy to see stuff go in that i have done
08:17 cait it's a little addictive
08:19 davidnind will try and find some more simpler things to fix, I'm not a programmer so don't think I'll be tackling perl anytime soon!
08:20 ashimema I know lots of friendly people willling to help with that davidnind :)
08:21 davidnind :)
08:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #286: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/286/
08:22 ashimema and... congrats on your first patch.. now I get to test me new pre-push hook that should shout at me to add you to the contributors list :)
08:24 davidnind cool!
08:36 cait :)
08:37 paxed i seem to be the other way, an Eeyore way: oh great, another patch rejected. why bother.
08:37 cait paxed: that#s dark
08:38 cait if you want me ot have a second look at something please let me know
08:38 paxed or: it took so long before anyone took a look at the patch that it no longer applies to master.
08:38 paxed cait: KohaSuomi has ~1300 commits
08:38 cait we are short on poeple testing always
08:38 ashimema bug numbers paxed.. then we can help move them along for/with you
08:39 cait i wish i could shorten times, but it needs more hands often - and also more dev people to look at the harder stuff
08:40 * ashimema is on a mission to match bugs to people for SO/QA ;)
08:40 * ashimema is good at poking people untill stuff moves
08:41 paxed well, one that should be relatively easy: bug 20364
08:41 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20364 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Show languages from MARC21 field 041 in intranet
08:47 paxed but easy is not the problem when/if we update our fork. it's all the rest, stuff like "C4 vs Koha" where it works for us, but we can't spend the extra time to develop same feature again for perhaps including into master
08:48 cait it's not easy to move big stuff in after using it for a while... I give you that
08:48 cait the best way is still a small step approach
08:48 cait hard to break up after a long time
08:48 cait but i'd still recommend to try
08:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23130: Add David Nind to contributors <[…]1a555e59d3cba69fd>
08:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22966: Add Petter von Krogh to contributors <[…]0c1cc2f45a6f46374>
08:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23144: (QA follow-up) Fix another POD error in svc/barcode <[…]37c1afdb7c0822d19>
08:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23144: Replace missing =cut in svc/header <[…]b5c8530da410d142c>
08:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23132: Fix encoding issues in facets with show more link <[…]2c5371ec35dfb0d5f>
08:57 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23130: Fix alternative mana server URL in etc/koha-conf.xml <[…]02deb310030b30f09>
08:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #272: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/272/
08:59 magnuse davidnind++ for first patch!
09:00 magnuse ashimema: on the bug for Petter's first patch it now says "Congratulations on your first Petter David, it's great to have you aboard :)" - did you have some automation that combined Petter and David?
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09:01 magnuse hiya khall
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09:04 ashimema oops
09:04 ashimema nah.. nothing that clever.. I just typo'd it!
09:04 ashimema silly me
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09:32 magnuse ashimema: it happens :-)
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09:39 eythian hallo
09:40 cait hallo eythian :)
09:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #287: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/287/
09:48 marcelr hi eythian
09:48 davidnind magnuse: thanks!
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10:28 ashimema oh, marcelr.. just the man
10:29 ashimema you didn't fanct taking a look at bug 20364 did you..
10:29 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20364 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Signed Off , Show languages from MARC21 field 041 in intranet
10:29 * ashimema hopes he's remembered right that you're pretty familier with xslt :)
10:37 paxed is there a way to get a Koha::Biblio object _without_ the record being in the database?
10:37 ashimema erm
10:37 ashimema Koha::Biblio->new()
10:37 paxed bug 21559
10:37 cait is it staged or similar?
10:37 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Rules for automatic framework codes
10:38 ashimema that'll give you an empty object
10:39 paxed and i can just manually add $bib->metadata->record to it?
10:40 * ashimema reminds himself how the code works
10:41 ashimema metadata is a relation
10:41 ashimema if this were dbic you certainly could
10:41 * paxed flips a table
10:42 ashimema I'm not entirely sure you can with Koha::Objects.. I think we downgrade relations to just getters and throw out the setter functionality
10:44 ashimema yup.. we forbid that patturn :(
10:45 ashimema you could have used 'update_of_create_related' or 'add_to_$rel' or 'set_$rel' otherwise
10:45 ashimema what exactly are you trying to do?
10:46 paxed see the bug above
10:46 paxed use Meme::Rage;
10:47 ashimema to be fair.. Koha::Objects have been a thing for a pretty long time now ;)
10:47 ashimema as much as I'm not the biggest fan of them in many respects
10:47 paxed long time, but still C4
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10:51 ashimema Why do you think you need to get an empty Koha::Biblio object and attach a metadata object to it?
10:51 * ashimema is trying to understand what this patchset does..
10:51 ashimema looks like a candidate for a trigger within the Koha::Biblio->store() routine to me
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10:53 tcohen morning
10:53 marcelr hi tcohen
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10:57 cait hi marcelr :)
10:57 cait i was missing you :)
10:58 ashimema tcohen
10:58 cait ok, my brain was thinking it's friday already... it's thrusday
10:58 ashimema did I imagine a bug where Joubu moved AddBiblio and ModBiblio into Koha::Biblio
10:58 ashimema I can't find it
10:58 marcelr hi caity
10:58 marcelr oops
10:58 marcelr cait
10:58 cait :)
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11:00 tcohen ashimema: I think you imagined it
11:00 marcelr wishful thinking
11:02 ashimema lol
11:02 ashimema hmm
11:02 ashimema perhaps we're being a bit overly mean then on paxed's bug
11:03 ashimema yes it adds to the mess that is C4::Biblio.. but as we've not moved AddBiblio into Koha::Biblio yet it would be allot more work for him to do that as part of this enhancement...
11:03 ashimema what do you guys think?
11:03 marcelr you cant force that
11:03 ashimema grrr.. I need to get these random failures sorted.. they're driving me nuts
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11:06 kohaputti ashmime, we use currently the dev install of Koha, what's your opinion us moving to the semi-debian-package based system Koha-community uses now?
11:06 kohaputti ashimema, ^
11:07 kohaputti at least with kohadevbox it uses some koha debian packages but still the source code comes from git repo
11:08 kohaputti so I'm thinking we could move to something like that to provide some flexibility and not having to make a new debian package for each internal release
11:08 kohaputti or hotfix
11:11 kohaputti actually, I could ask what they do in Gothenburg and Lund since they have their own forks too
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11:12 ashimema interesting
11:13 ashimema we still have a few dev installs knocking around.. they're still the easiest way to maintain a low install base fork (i.e. if you've really only got one or two systems running it)
11:14 ashimema We still use the community packages to install koha-perldeps and koha-deps though, even on our dev installs (good ol' fashioned dev installs too.. not devbox style using gitify)
11:14 kohaputti – as far as I can tell they use the koha-debian packages and their own git repo
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11:15 kohaputti ok
11:15 ashimema if you're installing for a wider base and that fork has a shared codebase then I'd really suggest hosting your own repo.. we do that (and I think Bywater at least do the same).. it's reasonably easy and buildig the packages is pretty straight forward too these days
11:15 kohaputti ashimema, you mean hosting our own debian package repository?
11:16 kohaputti Yes, that will most likely the case for security considerations
11:16 ashimema capistrano isn't sometihng I'm all all familier with I'm afraid
11:16 ashimema yeah
11:17 kohaputti I don't know it either but just tried to figure out something what file paths and so on is there :)
11:17 ashimema so we host a koha respository which includes our own pre-community-release extra's which customers just can't wait for
11:17 kohaputti cool
11:17 ashimema our install base is way more varied than I'd like with lots of versions and customisations all over :(
11:17 ashimema but we've been on a slow move to get everyone onto 'our' package for a while now.. it just takes time
11:18 ashimema tcohen has been working on a package builder using docker.. so it should get even easier to build new packages..
11:18 ashimema my ultimate plan is to use that and trigger it using a gitlab pipline..
11:18 paxed currently we just commit to "production" branch, push it, and all the libraries will automatically update.
11:19 ashimema so as soon as something gets pushed into our deployment branch we build a package from it and then push it accross to our repo
11:19 tcohen there's the koha-dpkg docker image
11:19 tcohen that takes care of building packages
11:20 ashimema our deployments people hugely prefer the pacakge installs.. they find them significanlty easier to manage
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11:21 ashimema remind me tcohen.. where does koha-dpkg live
11:21 ashimema
11:21 ashimema found it
11:21 paxed ashimema: so the package installs aren't automated?
11:22 tcohen ashimema: yeah, I put all the info there
11:22 ashimema automated in what sense?
11:22 paxed ashimema: meaning someone will have to make a decision on when to update and/or pick the packages?
11:23 ashimema at the moment our internal package builds aren't automated.. I just haven't gotten around to it.. and we only merge once a month
11:23 tcohen code is here
11:23 ashimema well they'll get updates from the repository assuming they haven't pinned their version
11:24 jraisa I build for Finland a simple deploy tool which is listening Github pushes, then fetches latest commits to servers. Quite handy to use Githubs webhooks.
11:25 kohaputti jraisa, paxed with packages we can just set debian/ubuntu to do unattended upgrades every week and boom, we have a new koha version in production :)
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11:29 jraisa This isn't really a Koha related, can be used with anything if someone is interested.
11:29 kohaputti jraisa, it should have a free license added
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11:39 kohaputti ashimema, I read and noticed quite many of the points were discussed in KohaCon19 so it is nice to see you take a note on them :)
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11:40 ashimema We're all trying to keep things improving :)
11:41 ashimema The best approach to getting things into community is to talk about them as early as possible and try to get buy in from prospective SO/QA people as soon as possible
11:42 ashimema The worst thing to do it adda bug and suddenly put loads of code on it without really asking anyone first.. it's harder to get buy in that way..
11:42 kohaputti yes
11:43 ashimema also.. it's a two way street.. if you can possibly spare any time to look at others code and do some SO.. they're much more likely to find some time to repay the favour :)
11:43 * ashimema points at the heavy hitters on you'd find the top SO/QA people are also the top Patches pushed in most cases..
11:44 ashimema teamwork++
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11:49 oleonard Hi #koha
11:59 magnuse community++
12:00 magnuse kohaputti: have you looked at the gitified script?
12:01 kohaputti no
12:01 kohaputti I will check it
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12:14 magnuse kohaputti: it is what kohadevbox uses
12:15 magnuse would plugins to generate barcodes in different styles be a good idea?
12:16 oleonard A different plugin for each style?
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12:34 cait kohaputti: bit late to the discussion, but we also built our own packages - one package for all installations, thankfully. all the same.
12:37 gveranis hi cait
12:41 gveranis I would like to ask something ;) , after merging two authority we notice that in biblio that have the old authority ( that merged ) , the linking moved to the another field. For example biblio before merging has a 712 field after authority merging the biblio has a 710 and not 712
12:41 gveranis it is something in syspref?
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12:44 cait gveranis: i am not sure, marcelr might be the better person to ask as he has worked on the merge code
12:44 cait is 712 standard?
12:45 cait hm doesn't look like it
12:45 gveranis 712 is a field on unimarc that have a link to old authority
12:45 cait ah, ok, waslooking at marc21
12:45 cait i suggest filing a bug, it doesn't sound like correct behavoiur
12:47 gveranis it changed more than 1000 records.. ;(
12:47 gveranis ok I will fill a bug form, thanks
12:52 cait gveranis: sorryto hear that :(
12:52 cait maybe you can use the batch edit to fix? or what i sometimes prefer
12:52 cait exprot them, change them in editor and then reimport
12:53 cait matching on biblionumber
12:53 cait gives you a bit more control of the process
12:55 gveranis yes it should be solution, but if it is a bug will face again
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12:59 tcohen gveranis: were the authority types the same?
13:00 gveranis tcohen : yes
13:01 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:01 wahanui Congratulations!
13:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #2: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_U18/2/
13:03 caroline_catlady good morning!
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13:11 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady
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13:17 tcohen fridolin: I think all is set
13:17 tcohen let me know if something is missing/failing
13:18 tcohen once we have dependencies discrepancies with master, we might need to build a separate set of docker images. For now the master ones are ok
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14:09 fridolin tcohen: thanks a lot its perfect
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15:09 tcohen next meetings?
15:09 wahanui next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings
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15:42 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23168: Enable plugins using plain SQL <[…]32b61c2f881245edd>
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16:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha
16:05 mtompset @seen cait
16:05 huginn` mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <cait> gives you a bit more control of the process
16:05 mtompset Are you here, cait?
16:12 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:12 wahanui Congratulations!
16:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #778: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/778/
16:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 9834: (QA follow-up) API Corrections <[…]9f0bc16f7dfda06b1>
16:22 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:22 wahanui Congratulations!
16:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #274: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/274/
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16:26 * oleonard has lots of good stuff for Bug 22399 and everyone is going to hate testing all the changes :(
16:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve responsive behavior of the basic marc editor
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16:30 reiveune bye
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17:51 mtompset @seen oleonard
17:51 huginn` mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: * oleonard has lots of good stuff for Bug 22399 and everyone is going to hate testing all the changes :(
17:51 mtompset oleonard, you here? I was looking to try bug 23013, but it needs a rebase against master.
17:51 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade DataTables in the staff client
17:52 oleonard Not surprising :(
17:52 mtompset Took me a bit to figure out how to get it too.
17:53 oleonard How so?
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18:06 oleonard mtompset: Updated, thanks
18:07 oleonard Is there a known bug with overriding hold limits--something broader than Bug 23116?
18:07 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23116 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Cannot place overridden holds
18:08 oleonard We don't seem to be able to override hold limits in 18.11.06
18:09 ashimema I 'think' kidclamp is on the case for that oleonard
18:09 ashimema sure he mentioned problems there earlier today
18:19 kidclamp oleonard: what does that bug not cover?
18:20 kidclamp afaik that is the crux of the issue
18:20 oleonard 23116 appears to be specific to item-level holds, was just about to test whether it fixes other overrides.
18:20 kidclamp ah, the last patch should fix title level and multiple holds
18:21 kidclamp rather, it originally only ixed item level but we expanded it
18:34 oleonard kidclamp: Did you see Joubu's question on that bug?
18:37 kidclamp I did, I answered him in IRC - I don't htink we need to update themodule at this time because this is the only place overrdes take place currently
18:47 mtompset oleonard, I've never used a remote branch on gitlab to test something.
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18:52 mtompset wizzycray, not hizzycray today?
18:56 kidclamp byee
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22:17 caroline_crazycatlady good night everyone!
22:19 rangi caroline_crazycatlady:[…]41830240508846080
22:19 rangi mittens is very famous[…]t-mittens-the-cat
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