IRC log for #koha, 2019-06-17

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05:46 Reza Hi. We have shutdown one our libraries. I will have to transfer all the books from that branch to a new branch. How can I do it in bulk?
05:46 Reza Like transferring all the itmes from one branch to another
05:47 Reza Also, if I could rename the branch code it would solve the problem as well.
05:47 Reza Anyone has any idea how to deal with this>
05:47 Reza Anyone has any idea how to deal with this?
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06:04 cait Reza: how many books are we talking about?
06:09 Reza about 20 thousand
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06:26 kohaputti Reza, there is probably some tool for this but you can always grep the kohastructure.sql (schema) for branchcode and see where you would have to change it for this conversion and then just do it with sql.
06:27 kohaputti e.g. UPDATE items SET holdingbranch = "NEW_CODE" WHERE holdingbranch = "OLD_CODE";
06:28 kohaputti maybe a bit dangerous so use some tool if there is
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06:35 reiveune hello
06:35 Reza Yeah. I am checking. Branch code is foreign key in 30 tables.
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06:54 alex_a bonjour
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07:01 paxed i wrote a script a while back to rename a branch, but i never acrually ran it on a production system
07:04 paxed branchcode*
07:05 cait it can be done... but it's fiddly
07:06 cait i usually make a new one and then move things over (we had a typo with additional whitespace at the end of a branchcode once)
07:06 cait that can cuase weird issues
07:06 cait because mysql doesn't care, but perl does
07:07 ashimema nice
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07:31 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10215: (RM follow-up) Rebuid DBIC classes <[…]f5a0cf2576a6cb5be>
07:31 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 9834: (RM follow-up) Rebuild DBIC classes <[…]60c2c25063ca4a8fe>
07:33 ashimema Dopy RM should know better than to push late on a Friday or on a Saturday..
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08:02 fridolin ashimema: bonjour
08:02 fridolin Bug 7890
08:02 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7890 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Required fields in the MARC editor should be highlighted
08:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #766: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/766/
08:03 fridolin strange its closed, it depends on Bug22399 that is assigned
08:03 fridolin i skip backport ?
08:03 * ashimema reads
08:04 ashimema ooh..
08:04 ashimema that looks like a bug in my updatebugzilla script
08:06 fridolin ^^
08:06 fridolin but about the dependancy ?
08:06 ashimema grr
08:06 * ashimema wonders how he missed the dependancy
08:07 ashimema RM mistake perhaps.
08:07 ashimema sure I tested that :(
08:07 ashimema ack.. it got reverted from 19.05.. I see now
08:07 fridolin maybe the dependancy is wrong
08:08 fridolin ooooh indeed its very special
08:10 * ashimema thinks he needs to retest it to make sure.. leave it with me
08:10 ashimema the code looks funny.. though that doesn't nessesarily mean it wrong
08:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #3: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_19.05_D9/3/
08:14 ashimema right..
08:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #279: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/279/
08:15 ashimema I did test it.. it works as expected for me.. so I think the dependancy is incorrect
08:15 ashimema you should be able to grab it without issue Fridolin
08:15 ashimema thanks for bringing it to my attention though.
08:16 ashimema yup, see comment 5.. Owen rebased it to revert the dependancy but forgot to actually set the bugzilla depenancies back
08:17 ashimema fridolin ^
08:20 fridolin ashimema: oki super merci ;)
08:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #261: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/261/
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08:43 Reza Does this seem okay:[…]me-a-koha-branch/  ?
08:44 Reza to rename a brnach
08:46 josef_moravec I believe you are missing default_branch_item_rules table
08:47 ashimema anyone out there using online payment plugins?
08:47 josef_moravec Reza: do you really need to change code of library?
08:48 josef_moravec ashimema: maybe Radek Å iman, but he is not on IRC... I could ask him on it
08:48 ashimema no worries
08:48 ashimema I'm just seeing some strange behaviour with plack
08:48 ashimema I'll keep digging
08:50 josef_moravec Reza: and branch_transfer_limits
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08:53 josef_moravec ashimema: Radek is author of these two plugins, he is not remembering of any problems with plack, when working on it...
08:53 josef_moravec
08:53 josef_moravec
08:53 josef_moravec they are czech payment systems
08:57 ashimema coolios
08:58 ashimema nice to see a few more plugins out there :)
08:58 josef_moravec it is always nice ;)
08:58 ashimema the wierd issue I'm having is that the plugin is being called with an escapped module name.. but run isn't finding it
09:45 tcohen morning
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10:19 Reza @josef_moravec yeah. unfortunately I have to rename it. the naming wasn't chosen wisely...!
10:19 huginn` Reza: downloading the Perl source
10:23 Reza josef_moravec: added default_branch_item_rules branch_transfer_limits branch_transfer_limits
10:24 Reza could you please take a look if I'm missing anything?
10:24 Reza[…]me-a-koha-branch/
10:27 josef_moravec Reza: Do you know the tool Adminer?
10:28 josef_moravec It could search for string in whole database, I would try to search for the OLD_BRANCH code to ensure to not miss any place
10:28 Reza Haven't used that before. But I am using MySQL Workbench
10:28 Reza alright. will do that
10:28 Reza thanks
10:28 josef_moravec It could make it to, maybe, I don't know ;)
10:29 josef_moravec Reza: Workbench is capable to do it ;)[…]-a-string/7523068
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11:34 oleonard Hi all
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11:59 oleonard Hi kidclamp
11:59 kidclamp Hi oleonard
11:59 wahanui hi oleopard
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12:59 caroline_catlady good morning!
13:02 magnuse hiya caroline_catlady
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13:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:05 mtompset @seen cait
13:05 huginn` mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 58 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <cait> because mysql doesn't care, but perl does
13:09 cait maybe just say cait? :)
13:09 cait hi caroline_catlady )
13:09 cait did you meantion you have translated plugins? (2 languages?)
13:09 caroline_catlady yes
13:09 cait do you know how it's done?
13:10 cait was discussion with tcohen earlier
13:10 caroline_catlady I think they add a .po file in the kpz package
13:10 cait could you share a link or an example?
13:10 mtompset Greetings, cait caroline_catlady
13:11 caroline_catlady
13:11 caroline_catlady I think if you downloand one, you can unzip it and see the files
13:11 mtompset cait, Did you attempt bug 23104? Because 0 did work for me, if I recall. I tested with plack to make sure only blank turned to unlimited.
13:11 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23104 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Regression (18925) in circ rules - unlimited vs 0
13:11 cait i believed the last comment
13:12 cait you can comment too
13:12 cait Jonathan usually is right and it was a valid problem he described, i didn't want his comment to be missed
13:12 caroline_catlady Ah no, they add a complete .tt
13:13 mtompset -- it was Nick that commented on the last comment. I'll recheck and attach some photos. :)
13:15 caroline_catlady
13:16 mtompset Oh sucky... nevermind, cait. Confirmed. :(
13:17 cait caroline_catlady: ah, ok :) not quite the route we were following. thx for checking!
13:20 * magnuse wishes there was an official way to translate plugins
13:20 * ashimema wishes there was a centralised repository of plugins
13:20 cait i was discussing options with tcohen earlier
13:20 ashimema and an official way to translate them too
13:21 cait one step after the other please :)
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13:21 wizzyrea hi
13:23 magnuse hi wizzyrea
13:23 caroline_catlady So what was the conclusion?
13:24 cait i was saying that we should investigate using gettext
13:25 cait as this appears widely used
13:25 cait but i think we agree on having a simple file structure with language files
13:25 cait just translating the strings, not having complete copies of the templates
13:27 caroline_catlady so it would be just like the regular koha translation?
13:27 cait no
13:27 cait the regular koha translation copies all the files with translations in them
13:28 cait you'd only have one set of template files and a few language fiels where you translate
13:28 cait way less complcated
13:28 magnuse +1
13:28 caroline_catlady what do you mean by a few language fields
13:28 cait a file for each language
13:28 cait with a string or code an dhte translation
13:28 cait it could be po files, but it would not have to be
13:29 cait but as soon as you enter the translation in the file or provide it, the trnaslation would work
13:29 cait no need to 'install' it
13:29 caroline_catlady ok
13:29 caroline_catlady and the plugin would come with all the language files?
13:29 cait yes
13:30 cait and if you want to translate a plugin, you'd make a merge request with your file
13:31 caroline_catlady is this discussion because in the future, plugins will be used more than regular developments? Like a more modular approach to koha?
13:33 oleonard I hope not
13:33 caroline_catlady off topic question, what is the accounttype FFOR? In the manual there is F and FOR but not FFOR
13:33 caroline_catlady oleonard: why not?
13:34 oleonard caroline_catlady: Developments will always be stronger if they go through the full QA process
13:35 ashimema caroline_catlady:
13:35 ashimema one is 'Fine Forgiven', the other is 'Forgiven'
13:35 ashimema one is automatic and the other it manual
13:35 * ashimema merged them in the accounts re-write tree recently and used a Status intsead
13:36 ashimema but that's not made it through QA yet
13:36 mtompset Can someone please generate the schema for 19.05?
13:36 mtompset only has up to 18.11
13:37 caroline_catlady thx ashimema
13:39 caroline_catlady oleonard: I guess we could have a QA process for plugins too (like have "official plugins"), it would make koha more customizable I think
13:45 mtompset What is TT in full again? I'm trying to find the documentation again.
13:45 mtompset I think I have an idea as to why bug 23104 unlimited's.
13:45 caroline_catlady template toolkit
13:45 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23104 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Regression (18925) in circ rules - unlimited vs 0
13:45 mtompset caroline_catlady++ # for jogging my memory.
13:46 mtompset caroline++ # because I figure that's your "real" nick.
13:47 caroline_catlady heh! thx :) I wasn't able to reclaim caroline so I was always caroline_ or caroline1, figured I would put the _ to good use
13:48 cait oleonard: i am also scepcital, but for some things like ILL and local payment providers a plugin system makses sens
13:48 wahanui okay, cait.
13:49 caroline_catlady I wonder what wahanui got out of that
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13:51 mtompset caroline_++ # I stand corrected. :)
13:51 cait why would a seriest that is in 490 and the first few hits of my result list not show in the series facet?
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13:51 oleonard caroline_catlady++
13:52 * cait pulls her hair out
13:53 cait this zebra is doing strange things today
13:55 caroline_catlady I don't remember having that problem before, but I did have problems with 490 vs 830
13:55 kidclamp[…]if?itemid=5036311
13:55 oleonard[…]WPKaiBM/giphy.gif
13:55 caroline_catlady are the series in your facets only 830?
13:55 caroline_catlady lol kidclamp!
13:56 calire kidclamp your zebra is dancing in time to my music
13:56 mtompset kidclamp, seeing as you torpedoed bug 23104. :P -- care to recheck my followup?
13:56 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23104 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Regression (18925) in circ rules - unlimited vs 0
13:56 mtompset The problem was in the template, not the logic.
13:57 kidclamp ah, will check when free mtompset
13:57 mtompset JD fixed the logic. But the display was still busted. :)
13:57 * kidclamp feels a little bad when you call it 'torpedoed'
13:57 mtompset Well, it didn't sink, so that's good. :)
13:59 oleonard tropedoed implies an attack, which QA definitely isn't
14:01 mtompset Think of it as shooting a bullet proof vest to QA it. Nothing negative was intended in the implication. :)
14:02 mtompset Because if the code isn't shot by QA, then we'd have bleeding and dying production koha servers.
14:04 mtompset "Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses." :)
14:08 mtompset Sorry for hurting your feelings, kidclamp. Didn't mean to. :)
14:08 caroline_catlady harmony++
14:09 caroline_catlady we were discussing disc colors (personnalities) this weekend, and I'm a green and greens love collaboration and harmony :)
14:11 kidclamp no hurt feeling mtompset
14:11 mtompset I thought greens were something you eat. Leafy greens and lean protein for weightloss. :)
14:13 caroline_catlady hehe![…]018/04/DISC-1.png
14:14 caroline_catlady I'm sure plants like harmony too
14:18 * ashimema is green too
14:18 * caroline_catlady high-fives ashimema
14:19 ashimema though actually I'm seeing traits in most of those.. lol
14:19 caroline_catlady people usually have a percentage of the other colours, but one is dominant
14:19 ashimema I'd basically go with 'not very red'
14:19 ashimema haha
14:20 caroline_catlady I'm green and blue, I have a little bit of yellow and practically no red
14:20 ashimema school run
14:20 ashimema brb
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14:24 caroline_catlady reading the mailing list emails and I stubled upon one that says "Owen Sir" to oleonard, love it! It's *almost* Sir Owen ;)
14:25 oleonard I got "Sir Leo" once :D
14:25 * wizzyrea is more of a brown really
14:25 mtompset People frequently call my Tom... even though Tompsett is my last name!
14:25 mtompset ^my^me^
14:26 wizzyrea but more of a red/blue/green sort of brown
14:26 oleonard mtompset: They just assume it's your "real" nick ;)
14:27 caroline_catlady huh, Tompsett doesn't sound like a first name, not in English anyway. Some last names in French are also first names, so that can be confusing
14:27 ashimema No-one ever mistakes Renvoize for a first name.. most can't spell it either
14:28 wizzyrea my mr has a real problem because there's a famous person with his first name as a last name, and his last name sounds like a first name
14:28 mtompset oleonard, somehow "catlady" is not likely the real nick, thought it make be something caroline_catlady is.
14:28 wizzyrea I bet oleonard's kid has a similar problem
14:29 mtompset I can see oleonard suffering: Leonard Owens.
14:29 caroline_catlady I was thinking of slowly migrating toward catlady... caroline_catlady seems too long
14:30 wizzyrea i'd be really surprised if catlady wasn't already taken
14:30 caroline_catlady oh right...
14:30 caroline_catlady forgot about that lol!
14:30 kidclamp everyone should have ridiculous nicknames that have no connection to their real name
14:30 wizzyrea the venn diagram of "women who use IRC" and "people who might identify as "cat ladies" seems pretty much like a big football
14:31 kidclamp ashimema++
14:31 wizzyrea if not close to a circle
14:32 ashimema Lol
14:32 ashimema Huh?
14:32 caroline_catlady[…]ame-generator.php
14:33 wizzyrea i just mean the overlap is quite large.
14:33 wizzyrea in my probably wrong estimation
14:33 kidclamp whois catlady
14:35 kidclamp i guess attemtping to register is the only way to see?
14:40 ashimema @seen catlady
14:40 huginn` ashimema: I have not seen catlady.
14:41 mtompset ashimema, question for you.
14:41 mtompset bug 22783
14:41 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22783 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , 'Location' not picked up by translation toolchain
14:41 mtompset Are you sure you didn't get an explosion?
14:42 mtompset Software error: Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/vagrant/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intrane​t-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/ line 284: unexpected token (BLOCK)  [% SET location = BLOCK %] at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/ line 122.
14:48 mtompset Also, ashimema, are you using sandboxes to sign off? Because the status isn't changing if you are.
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14:54 ashimema Not using sandboxes
14:55 ashimema And.. I just moved the suggested code from one bug to another.. don't think I tested that one at all
14:55 ashimema Hense not being signed off
14:56 mtompset But it had your "signed off" tag at the bottom.
14:56 mtompset That's why I mentioned this. :)
14:56 ashimema Not sure where the SO line in the commit message came from.. perhaps an old git hook
14:56 ashimema I'll double check my config
14:57 ashimema Thanks for spotting ut
14:57 ashimema s/it/it
15:00 mtompset ashimema, figured out why the bomb... the anonymous block syntax was bad. Appended a follow up.
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15:03 ashimema :)
15:04 mtompset There... cleaned off your sign off for you. :)
15:04 ashimema thankyou :)
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15:54 huginn` News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 23075: Better error handling in Mana config" <[…]0acdcbf41529ac2f3>
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16:28 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:28 wahanui Congratulations!
16:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #767: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/767/
16:32 pedro_ hello,Why when I use yaz-client (find ¨somthing¨) I get: >>> HTTP Error Status=400
16:32 pedro_ >>> Content type does not appear to be XML?
16:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:37 wahanui Congratulations!
16:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #262: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/262/
16:38 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:38 wahanui Congratulations!
16:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #280: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/280/
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16:40 * cait waves
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16:47 * cait waves at khall
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17:17 bag hello
17:17 wahanui niihau, bag
17:17 bag magnuse: HI!!!
17:17 oleonard Hi bag
17:17 bag oleonard: HI
17:23 * cait waves
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18:03 mtompset kidclamp, quick question about bug 18969.
18:03 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18969 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , _all field is deprecated - should use copy_to to prepare for ES6
18:04 mtompset Oops... should be asking alex.
18:06 mtompset @later tell alex_a regarding bug 18969, why did you change from text to string in the yaml part of the patch? I don't know how to test, so I won't be testing, but that difference stuck out to me.
18:06 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
18:07 mtompset @later tell alex_a Oops... type: string to type: text. Wrong direction. :)
18:07 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
18:07 * oleonard always reads "ES6" as EcmaScript 6
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18:19 oleonard Could someone test svc/barcode and see if it is working for you?
18:32 mtompset svc/barcode?
18:33 oleonard It generates barcode images. /cgi-bin/koha/svc/barcode?barcode=33000000029382
18:34 mtompset error 500?
18:35 oleonard That's what I get
18:37 mtompset So GD::Barcode is boming somehow.
18:37 mtompset ^bomin^bombing^
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19:30 * kidclamp knows nothing about bug 23144
19:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23144 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Bad POD breaks svc/barcode
19:30 kidclamp now I run away
19:36 magnuse bag: HI
19:36 wahanui hola, magnuse
19:52 caroline_catlady I feel like this list is out of date[…]/faq.html#reports where would be the best place to get all the accounttypes?
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20:01 cait caroline_catlady: good question - I am not quite sure about the current structure
20:01 cait ashimema:  is the one i'd ask
20:01 cait it might be we have a database table containing all current codes
20:02 caroline_catlady oh that would be good instead of random codes
20:02 cait i think they are still hardcoded
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20:06 caroline_catlady There's accounts.onc, but I'm not sure if that's authoritative
20:07 caroline_catlady *.inc sorry
20:08 cait hm i have messed up my workbench connection
20:08 cait but iw as thinking of a db table
20:09 cait hm account_offset_types
20:09 cait not usre if there is similar for accountlines
20:11 caroline_catlady but account_offset_types don't have the codes
20:11 caroline_catlady *doesn't
20:22 cait sorry, not sure hten
20:23 cait i have mostly stayed away from the accounts patches so far, really need to catch up on those
20:25 caroline_catlady don't worry about it, I will bug ashimema when he comes back :)
20:27 cait :)
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21:04 mtompset @later tell oleonard I moved the author POD at the end of the script up, and things broke more usefully on the barcode script.
21:04 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
21:27 pastebot "mtompset" at pasted "My hack for svc/barcode -- oleonard" (44 lines) at
21:28 mtompset @later tell oleonard perhaps this?
21:28 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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22:24 caroline_catlady good night everyone!
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22:57 kattekrab Hello!
22:57 kattekrab @rangi - I found some info on Perl and RHEL8 -[…]terprise-linux-8/
22:57 huginn` kattekrab: I suck
22:57 kattekrab huginn`: oh?
22:57 huginn` kattekrab: I suck
23:02 kattekrab although dunno how useful it actually is
23:02 mtompset kattekrab, perhaps you mean to @later tell rangi ...?
23:03 kattekrab mtompset: sorry, I don't understand?
23:20 rangi kattekrab: if you do @later tell rangi then when i next talk the bot will tell me what you said (even if it has scrolled back out of my scroll buffer)
23:21 rangi thats cool info about the RHEL8 though, thanks :)
23:21 rangi mtompset: ill sort the schema out too
23:22 kattekrab aaaaah cool - thanks!
23:29 mtompset Thanks, rangi. :)
23:30 mtompset rangi++ # for looking into the schema
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