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alexbuckley |
Hi all! |
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wizzyrea |
huh. lastseen doesn't seem to actually log the last opac login like the schema suggests it should |
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wizzyrea |
but updated_on... seems to update with a login |
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wizzyrea |
(and lots of other stuff |
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) |
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akshully never mind it doesn't track a login anywhere that must have been a coincidence |
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wizzyrea |
hi alexbuckley - are you back from your massive holiday? |
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alexbuckley |
hi wizzyrea, yup back from my massive holiday. landed at 11am this morning after 36 hrs of commuting from Geneva |
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wizzyrea |
lol omgosh just today |
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wizzyrea |
you aren't at work are you?! |
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alexbuckley |
hehe yes I am, keen to get back into it |
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wizzyrea |
it looked like you had THE BEST time |
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alexbuckley |
I did have the best time. So many amazing experiences like staying with my Moroccan guide's family which was so cool |
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wizzyrea |
<heart eyes> |
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wizzyrea |
so awesome |
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will take a few weeks to process as seen so much the start of the trip ends up a bit of a blur |
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wizzyrea |
hehe yeah I reckon! |
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its nice doing the group tours in Morocco as you meet a load of travel obsessed people from all around the world (most were from Canada) and make lots of new friends (we're all still in contact weeks after that tour finished and plan to meet up again at some point) :) |
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and how are you? |
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wizzyrea |
yeah doin ok ;) |
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i have a fluffy doggie next to me, that's nice |
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liliputech_asu |
'lo :) |
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magnuse |
'i liliputech_asu |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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cait |
it's good to be back :) |
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matts |
hi :) |
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ashimema |
hi |
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wahanui |
bidet, ashimema |
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cait |
hi matts, hi boss |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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calire |
hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi calire :) |
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gk |
hi koha |
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gk |
I am trying to install 19.05 on ubuntu 18.04 using packages and not able to update after adding repository Error: apt-secure(8) |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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* cait |
waves at marcelr |
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calire |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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cait |
@later tell wizzyrea - just updated demo versions again, 3 on 19.05 already |
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huginn` |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
@later tell gmcharlt equinox demo is lat on 17.11 now - maybe give it a little push? |
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huginn` |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
That 3.22 installation, still hangin' on! |
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cait |
oh which one? |
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wahanui |
which one is that |
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oleonard |
Biblibre's https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]emo_Installations |
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cait |
https://koha-community.org/demo/ |
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cait |
guess we should deduplicate :) |
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oleonard |
...except folks can update their own listings in the wiki but not on the web page |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
link and updat both? |
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oleonard |
Maybe someone could watch the wiki page and make updates to the other page as needed |
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cait |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]jor_release_tasks |
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cait |
i can take care of bug clean-up next week i think have to ask rangi |
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* oleonard |
always worries we're missing wiki features because we're on an old version of MediaWiki |
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cait |
yeah :( |
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cait |
and the stange navigation behaviour is not nice too |
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cait |
for new pages without categories |
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* ashimema |
has been trying to get the mediawiki verson upgraded for literally years |
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ashimema |
I gave up |
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oleonard |
I can't remember the reason for the hold-up, but I know it wasn't just inertia. |
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ashimema |
we have lots of random plugins installed which prevent us from upgrading I believe |
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ashimema |
but.. I would argue most of them can be removed as we're not using the majority properly and those we are have often become core features in recent mediawiki's |
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ashimema |
there's a docs meeting later today.. perhaps it could be brought up |
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oleonard |
Good idea |
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cait |
i think go back to basic |
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cait |
and a recent version |
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cait |
if we really end up missing something, reimplement.. but i doubt we will |
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oleonard |
Maybe if gmcharlt is available he could pop into the meeting |
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kidclamp |
should 'New subscription' when viewing a subscription default to the same biblionumber? it seems odd to have diffeeent behaviour |
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kidclamp |
link when viewing a subscription: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/[…]w_subscription=42 |
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kidclamp |
link on serials home: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/[…]bscription-add.pl |
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oleonard |
pass |
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magnuse |
kia ora marcelr! so nice to meet you in dublin! |
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magnuse |
marcelr: i wonder if misc/bin/set-selinux-labels.sh still makes sense. it has not been updated since it was submitted in 2012... |
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eythian |
hi |
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oleonard |
Is it plack or memcached which makes it necessary to restart_all after making a change to columns_settings.yml? |
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oleonard |
Hi eythian |
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eythian |
hi oleopard |
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eythian |
marcelr: I spent a while the other day hanging around your work, because I have a visitor who visited there. |
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eythian |
oh, that made him leave before I even pressed enter. |
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magnuse |
eythian: maybe he doesn't like stalkers |
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eythian |
magnuse: nah, that can't be it. |
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davidnind |
Hi AndyBoze and lucyvh! |
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AndyBoze |
Hello! |
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ashimema |
it's an hour until the docs meeting right? |
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ashimema |
or did I get my timezones wrong again |
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oleonard |
Sounds right to me |
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ashimema |
coolios |
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AndyBoze |
I thought it was now. |
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lucyvh |
My converter thingy says it should be now |
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lucyvh |
I think we decided at the last meeting to hold it slightly earlier |
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ashimema |
oh wierd.. |
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ashimema |
the wiki and the calendar dissagree with eachoher |
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oleonard |
Joubu around by any chance? |
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ashimema |
caroline around yet? |
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ashimema |
caroline_catlady: |
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cait |
hi :) |
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cait |
am I late? |
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oleonard |
We just don't know!! |
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ashimema |
your either a few minutes late or nearly an hour early cait |
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cait |
oh |
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ashimema |
depending on if you look at the calendar or the wiki page |
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ashimema |
oopsi |
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lucyvh |
Where's the calendar ashimena? |
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lucyvh |
I always look on the wiki page only |
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oleonard |
https://calendar.google.com/ca[…]XIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ |
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lucyvh |
Thanks |
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oleonard |
Or this, without requiring login: https://calendar.google.com/ca[…]merica%2FNew_York |
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ashimema |
or https://koha-community.org/calendar/ |
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davidnind |
Apologies everyone, my network cable fell out and I was talking to myself! |
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magnuse |
the meeting that was yesterday started 24 hours and 12 minutes ago, i think |
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davidnind |
#startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Thu Jun 6 13:13:24 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_6_june_2019' |
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magnuse |
for what it is worth |
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davidnind |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019) |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe |
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lucyvh |
#info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe |
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AndyBoze |
#info Andy Boze, University of Notre Dame, USA |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
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davidnind |
Hi everyone, thanks for coming along, and apologies for the late start! |
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davidnind |
#topic Action points |
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Topic for #koha is now Action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019) |
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davidnind |
#info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_6_June_2019 |
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davidnind |
No progress to report on my actions points, so I think I will skip over these |
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caroline_catlady |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
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caroline_catlady |
Hi sorry I'm late! |
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davidnind |
Will try and get on top of these in the next few days, particularly the list of suggested tasks to work on (from easy to hard) |
| 13:19 |
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davidnind |
hi caroline_catlady! |
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davidnind |
no worries, we started a but late because of "technical difficulties" on my end! |
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davidnind |
#topic What's been done so far |
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Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019) |
| 13:21 |
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davidnind |
I've added a quick update on the agenda, but to summarise... |
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davidnind |
there was kohacon... |
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davidnind |
I've not done much, apart from some minor updates |
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caroline_catlady |
Before KohaCon, I updated taiga with the release notes |
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davidnind |
caroline_catalady++ |
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davidnind |
it is a bit of a mission trying to keep all the things pushed updated on taiga! |
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caroline_catlady |
yeah ,that's about all I did for the whole cycle, so no ++ for me |
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davidnind |
ashimema added a section to the intro on contributing to Koha |
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ashimema |
:) |
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davidnind |
every little but helps, and everyone has been busy I think |
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lucyvh |
Thanks for adding me to the Taiga team btw. I've not had chance to do any updates though |
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davidnind |
sorry that took so long, AndyBoze is added now as well |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: did I make you admin on taiga? |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
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AndyBoze |
I've been trying to get prepared for working on documentation, so I'd love to tackle some of the easier things to get started. |
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caroline_catlady |
Also, did you get merging rights on gitlab? |
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davidnind |
caroline_catalady: yes you did! |
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cait |
and davidnind did a great presentation and capitalization updates |
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caroline_catlady |
yes awesome presentation! davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady: not yet I think for merging rights (although I haven't tried!) |
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caroline_catlady |
ok, let me check right now |
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davidnind |
thanks, not the greatest at presentations... |
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caroline_catlady |
it didn't show, it was great |
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davidnind |
also did a "workshop" at kohacon, which was more of a presentation on adding text for the release notes in bugzilla and the easy way to edit the manual on GitLab |
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davidnind |
:-D |
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cait |
davidnind++ |
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cait |
we shoudl probably #info more |
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oleonard |
If it doesn't look to others like you're bad at presentations it means you're good at presentations |
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cait |
#info Kohacon had a documentation presentation and a workshop, thelatter focusing on release notes in bugzilla and editing with gitlab |
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davidnind |
thanks cait, I forget to do those! |
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cait |
#info davidnind to get merging rights on gitlab |
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cait |
who do go to for taiga access? |
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cait |
just for the info |
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cait |
i got it :) |
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* ashimema |
apologises the 'workshops' didn't go as to plan as I'd hoped.. I wanted to try and make them more interactive but on the day the facilities didn't really lend themselve to it. |
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caroline_catlady |
for taiga, I guess any team manager present or past |
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caroline_catlady |
:) |
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caroline_catlady |
so lee, me or david |
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davidnind |
it still worked out okay in the end with the workshops |
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cait |
#info If you need to get access to taige, ask caroline_catlady, davidnind or Lee |
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cait |
shoudl we got ot the action points? |
| 13:33 |
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davidnind |
there was a lot of interest in getting started with editing the manual |
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davidnind |
cait: I skipped over those as I haven't made much progress on those... |
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cait |
ah ok |
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cait |
i got a question :) |
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caroline_catlady |
after talking with severine and lucyvh, I think we should do a "git for librarians" section |
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cait |
do we refrain from updating screenshots until we have figured out automation? |
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caroline_catlady |
to explain the process because for most of us, git isn't a part of our day to day and may be hard to get a hold of |
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caroline_catlady |
(on the wiki I mean, not in the manual) |
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cait |
would you be able to write it? |
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cait |
not sure what is needed |
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caroline_catlady |
cait: unless we need a new one right? |
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caroline_catlady |
(screeshots) |
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* ashimema |
is happy to help but would need guidance as to what sort of thing you needed |
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cait |
i was not sure about the guideline (screenshots) - my coworker was filing bugs for outdated ones |
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cait |
so we got stuck ont he question how to fix them |
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davidnind |
agree, we also talked about having a visual guide or diagram of the git workflow |
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ashimema |
what sorts of tasks you're wanting to carry out and then I can advice on how best to approach them |
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davidnind |
for screenshots, I think just manually updating them at the moment until I get the automated part sorted out |
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caroline_catlady |
re: git: this is a course I followed when I first started here, and it clears it up a lot (though I still need my git sensei at work) https://www.pluralsight.com/co[…]e-school-git-real |
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cait |
#info manually updating screenshots is ok, until automation is sorted out |
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davidnind |
#action create a section on git for beginners for editing manual, aimed at those who aren't familiar with git |
| 13:38 |
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cait |
i think codeacademy has a free git tutorial as well |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://www.pluralsight.com/co[…]e-school-git-real |
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caroline_catlady |
this is the one, codecademy ws merged with pluralsight |
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cait |
oh! |
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caroline_catlady |
oh no nevermind, its codeschool that was merged |
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cait |
#link https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-git |
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davidnind |
I like this one too http://ohshitgit.com/ |
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cait |
#link http://ohshitgit.com/ |
| 13:41 |
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davidnind |
I guess pulling together some of the useful guides for beginners would be useful as well |
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davidnind |
luncyvh and AndyBoze: is git something you are familiar with? |
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lucyvh |
No, I'd never used it until I started doing the manual |
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AndyBoze |
I've only had a little experience with git, and nothing too recent. |
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lucyvh |
I think those links will be really useful - particularly the last one! |
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caroline_catlady |
there's this, but it seems really detailed https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Control_Using_Git |
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davidnind |
perfect for providing feedback on anything we come up with, or on Editing the Koha Manual page! |
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davidnind |
just to finish ff the agenda item, rangi has made some changes on gitlab so that if you fork the repository you don't get continuous integration errors when you make a change |
| 13:46 |
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davidnind |
ff s/be off! |
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cait |
yay! |
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cait |
#info gitlab configuration has been fixed so forking doesn't give you CI errors |
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caroline_catlady |
is that the pipeline fials? |
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cait |
yep |
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caroline_catlady |
woohoo! |
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caroline_catlady |
rangi++ |
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davidnind |
I just did something yesterday to test it out, and I didn't get any of the errors |
| 13:48 |
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davidnind |
I guess to summarise we need to make it as easy as possible for people to get up to speed (in a gentle way) using git and the workflow |
| 13:50 |
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davidnind |
and I need to put together a list of tasks from easy to harder that people to get started on |
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davidnind |
#action davidnind to put together a list of documentation tasks from easy to harder to help those getting started |
| 13:51 |
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davidnind |
any other thoughts before we move onto the next agenda item? |
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davidnind |
#topic Workflow |
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Topic for #koha is now Workflow (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019) |
| 13:52 |
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davidnind |
I think we've covered this, unless anyone has anything to add or any more ideas? |
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davidnind |
#topic Next steps |
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| 13:54 |
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davidnind |
I think I |
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davidnind |
I think I'll skip over translation - I haven't got my head around how this works... |
| 13:54 |
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davidnind |
yet... |
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cait |
we are actively wrking on the German tarnslation for 18.11 currently |
| 13:56 |
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davidnind |
excellent! |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
| 13:57 |
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davidnind |
do you feedback into the english version where you find it difficult to translate the text? |
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caroline_catlady |
I know the fr-FR team is working on the french version a lot... not so much for fr-CA |
| 13:58 |
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davidnind |
#info active work being done on German and fr-FR translations |
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caroline_catlady |
I instructed the fr-FR team to open bugs on bugzilla if they found typos or things that needed work |
| 13:59 |
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davidnind |
that's great, english-only speakers can get lazy when we write! |
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davidnind |
#info raise bugs on bugzilla for any text that is difficult to translate or where there are typos |
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caroline_catlady |
that's fine, everyone makes typos. It's just that when we translate, it's one sentence at a time, so it's obvious |
| 14:01 |
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cait |
davidnind: mostly my coworker doing translation right now, he filed bugs for screenshots at least |
| 14:01 |
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cait |
yeah, true for the typos |
| 14:02 |
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davidnind |
great, I'll make sure I pick those up, add to taiga, and be a bit more responsive |
| 14:03 |
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davidnind |
For the 19.05 release I'm conscious of trying to get the new features such as mana and the changes to system preference incorporated |
| 14:04 |
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davidnind |
There should be tasks in taiga (thanks caroline_catlady!) for all of these |
| 14:04 |
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davidnind |
So if you are looking for something to do, this may be a good place to start |
| 14:04 |
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* ashimema |
is going to slowly ramp up the requirement for original bug submitter to at least submit a first cut manual entry |
| 14:05 |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema is getting his whip ready lol |
| 14:06 |
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davidnind |
ashimema: that would be great, even if it is a text file or something attached to the bug would provide a great starting point |
| 14:06 |
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davidnind |
has anyone got any ideas on specific priorities, or things they want covered first? |
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lucyvh |
Sorry, I have to drop out of the meeting for school run - bye for now |
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davidnind |
thanks lucyvh! |
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davidnind |
apologies for going over, I'm conscious hat you are all working at the moment I think! |
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cait |
maybe sysprefs, notices |
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cait |
those are quick and i think might be often looked up |
| 14:08 |
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davidnind |
#info things to work on for 19.05 release - system preference changes and notices |
| 14:09 |
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davidnind |
#info other things to work on are the new features |
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davidnind |
is everyone able to hang in there for a few minutes to do the koha-docs mailing list or would you prefer just to set the time for the next meeting? |
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caroline_catlady |
I'm around anyway |
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* ashimema |
is still listening |
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davidnind |
thanks! |
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davidnind |
#topic Other items |
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AndyBoze |
I can stay. |
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davidnind |
I sent a message to the mailing list about making the archive open https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-June/thread.html |
| 14:12 |
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davidnind |
the feedback was all in agreement (thanks for those that provided it!) |
| 14:13 |
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davidnind |
does anyone have anything they would like to add, or should we just vote on it? |
| 14:13 |
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davidnind |
(have always wanted to runga vote thingy!) |
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davidnind |
if it is something we need to vote on... |
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caroline_catlady |
if everyone is in agreement, I would say go ahead, but we can vote too |
| 14:14 |
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davidnind |
I'll start a vote... |
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davidnind |
#startvote Do you agree to making the koha-docs mailing list archive open? Yes, No, Abstain |
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huginn` |
Begin voting on: Do you agree to making the koha-docs mailing list archive open? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
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huginn` |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
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davidnind |
#vote Yes |
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caroline_catlady |
#vote Yes |
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AndyBoze |
#vote Yes |
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ashimema |
#vote Yes |
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davidnind |
#endvote |
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Voted on "Do you agree to making the koha-docs mailing list archive open?" Results are |
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huginn` |
Yes (4): ashimema, davidnind, caroline_catlady, AndyBoze |
| 14:17 |
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caroline_catlady |
does anyone else have a security warning when going to that page? |
| 14:17 |
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davidnind |
#agreed The koha-docs mailing list archive will be made open |
| 14:17 |
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oleonard |
caroline_catlady: Yes. Self-issued SSL certificate. |
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caroline_catlady |
ok, glad to know it's not just me :) |
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oleonard |
Self-issued by Biblibre, so it's just a technicality. But unfortunate. |
| 14:18 |
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caroline_catlady |
I'd already sent an email to paul |
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caroline_catlady |
but that was weeks ago, I was wondering if they were able to reproduce |
| 14:19 |
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davidnind |
I didn't notice as I added an exception probably ages ago... |
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davidnind |
maybe add on bugzilla under the infrastructure area |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
oh oops sorry, yes from me too! |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
for the archive |
| 14:21 |
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davidnind |
thanks cait! |
| 14:22 |
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davidnind |
#action mailing list website security certificate causes browser errors, raise an issue on bugzilla |
| 14:22 |
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davidnind |
#topic Set time for next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time for next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019) |
| 14:23 |
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davidnind |
The general IRC meeting is a week later because of US holidays, should we do the same? |
| 14:23 |
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davidnind |
that would make it 11 July 2019 |
| 14:23 |
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davidnind |
any is everyone happy with this time? |
| 14:24 |
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AndyBoze |
It's good for me. |
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caroline_catlady |
I am away training that week, but feel free to hold it sans moi |
| 14:25 |
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davidnind |
happy to keep to the normal time which would be 4 July |
| 14:26 |
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AndyBoze |
4 July works for me, too. |
| 14:26 |
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davidnind |
we have no more public holidays until October in NZ :-( |
| 14:26 |
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davidnind |
thanks AndyBoze! |
| 14:26 |
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davidnind |
#info Next meeting 4 July 2019 13:00 UTC |
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davidnind |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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Meeting ended Thu Jun 6 14:26:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-06-13.13.html |
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huginn` |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-06-06-13.13.txt |
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Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]06-13.13.log.html |
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davidnind |
phew, thanks everyone and apologies for going over time! |
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oleonard |
Schedule all meetings on US holidays to keep the loudmouths out ;) |
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caroline_catlady |
oleonard: lol! |
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oleonard |
davidnind: Did you see our brief discussion earlier about upgrading the wiki? |
| 14:29 |
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davidnind |
I did see it, when I woke up! |
| 14:29 |
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davidnind |
Who looks after the hosting for the wiki? |
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oleonard |
I think Equinox |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ministration#wiki.koha-community.org |
| 14:31 |
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davidnind |
MediaWiki 1.16.2 is really quite old now - 2011! |
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oleonard |
An straight upgrade might be impossible because of plugins, so it may require some kind of manual migration of content |
| 14:33 |
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davidnind |
What's the best approach, log a bugzilla item and take the discussion from there? |
| 14:33 |
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News from kohagit: Bug 10215: DBRev 19.06.00.002 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40a7dd7a891c713b4> |
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oleonard |
I think that's as good an approach as any |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 10215: (follow-up) Fix the failing test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4702446e60f7de4b6> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 10215: (follow-up) Correct existing data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9b23b72a25170462e> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22958: Fix help link on the SMS providers page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]73476de1f91000502> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 23027: Make Suggestions.t pass even if no biblio in DB <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8970a3f8e85c1a4e8> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22919: Fix insert of authorities_normal_marc21.sql with strict SQL modes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8b9c0cc492016455d> |
| 14:34 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 10215: Increase the size of opacnote and librariannote for table subscriptionhistory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50bd1776a76942397> |
| 14:35 |
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davidnind |
I'd be happy to test and find any problems (I think setting up a mediawiki install was relatively easy, although I've not done it for a long time...) |
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davidnind |
Extensions installed https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Special:Version |
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ashimema |
it's the categorytree stuff that I think was the sticking point in particular |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
but.. personally I don't like it ;) |
| 14:42 |
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davidnind |
I'm happy to log a request on bugzilla and take it from there (when I next wake up!) |
| 14:42 |
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oleonard |
Yeah I think the categories are often more confusing than helpful |
| 14:43 |
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davidnind |
You'd think with some librarians around we would be good at categorising things! |
| 14:44 |
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davidnind |
To many categories can be just as bad as not enough |
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cait |
i think noone knows how it works |
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cait |
and it was a bit buggy |
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davidnind |
:-D |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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davidnind |
See if anyone misses it? |
| 14:45 |
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davidnind |
hi wizzyrea! |
| 14:45 |
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caroline_catlady |
we'll dewey everything on the wiki, lol |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
yeah tht would totally be my approach |
| 14:45 |
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wizzyrea |
!!! |
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AnnaBoten |
Error: "!!" is not a valid command. |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
if you make the bug, maybe add galen charlton to it in cc |
| 14:45 |
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ashimema |
yup |
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cait |
I think we'll need his help in figuring this out |
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cait |
bye all, bbl :) |
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davidnind |
Will do! |
| 14:47 |
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davidnind |
bye cait! |
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davidnind |
night/morning/evening everyone! |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22867: DBRev 19.06.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0994be1869b0ac629> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22910: Do not copy unique patron attributes to duplicated patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dea46f70366237699> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22867: Update the syspref's description in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d2f0efad2fda50a1> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22867: (QA follow-up) Build items.json for UniqueItemFields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21fdf371f8c51f1ba> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 8558: (QA follow-up) a little more text clean up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6b49a0db516e67bda> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22867: UniqueItemFields preference value should be pipe-delimited <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fbd0e4899b11e3c42> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 8558: Improve confirmation message for importing frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57bbdc4c5bddb4d5f> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 20986: (follow-up) Avoid br tags, but allow for line breaks to be added easily... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d6a1e1351d0e1de9b> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 20986: Add 867 and 868 holdings display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7c471402965b3e1b> |
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News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 22867: (QA follow-up) Build items.json for UniqueItemFields" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]30cb81f255f4104d7> |
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oleonard |
Oooh I made a patch too big for git-bz. Is there a prize for that? |
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ashimema |
lol |
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oleonard |
(Bug 23013) |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Upgrade DataTables in the staff client |
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Joubu |
@later tell alex_a Tu pourrais jeter un coup d'Å“il à ça stp: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/merge_requests/1 |
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Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #757: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/757/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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Project Koha_Master_D8 build #267: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/267/ |
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oleonard |
Bug 23013 ready for testing, but I couldn't get the patch on Bugzilla |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade DataTables in the staff client |
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oleonard |
...which is a bummer because I'm excited about it and want it to be easily tested. |
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oleonard |
cait did you see my comment the other day on Bug 23031? |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve UX of buttons on order search page |
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Shane-S |
So I have report I made via SQL sorting in itemcallnumber and the results don't make sense. We are using text like "F AP" and "F AL" for stuff...but some records are sorted out of place. https://snag.gy/K6EBd3.jpg |
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Shane-S |
Would I have to the CLI and pull the records out to see if there are odd characters now being presented in HTML? |
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Shane-S |
Version is 18.11.05.000 |
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oleonard |
Shane-S: And you're sorting specifically by itemcallnumber? |
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Shane-S |
oleonard: ORDER BY i.itemcallnumber ASC, b.title, datelastseen DESC |
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caroline_catlady |
Shane-S: try sorting by cn_sort |
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caroline_catlady |
also, make sure your items have the "other classification scheme" value in the classification field (952$2 I think) |
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oleonard |
I am curious, though, why the values in Shane-S's report are sorting the way they are. |
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caroline_catlady |
it is weird, somehow I wonder if the classification scheme is not lcc or something |
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Shane-S |
No clue what scheme we use...I will check that out and try the cn_sort |
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Shane-S |
thank you! |
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oleonard |
caroline_catlady: Bug if you're simply sorting by itemcallnumber that's looking at call number as-is, nothing to do with classification scheme. |
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oleonard |
s/Bug/But |
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caroline_catlady |
oh right... |
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caroline_catlady |
must be encoding then? |
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caroline_catlady |
Shane-S: can you share your sql here? paste.koha-community.org |
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pastebot |
"Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My SQL" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2699 |
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Shane-S |
We imported all our record from an old Follet System running on OS 9 using the MARC converter and have been using this DB since 3.x days, server is a new build since 2016. Not that it helps much, I just try and get it working I will try and adjust the sort |
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Shane-S |
cn_sort looks perfect |
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caroline_catlady |
oh cool |
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caroline_catlady |
still weird, like oleonard said that itemcallnumber doesn't sort the right way though |
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ashimema |
23013.. do you have GitHub or anywhere to post a branch for that bug Owen? |
| 18:21 |
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ashimema |
That's probably the easiest thing to do and then recommend people use the bywater or newest ptfs-e sandboxes and pount them at the branch instead of using git bz |
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oleonard |
ashimema: That's what I did. Posted a link to my GitLab |
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wizzyrea |
can someone tell me, off the top of their heads |
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wizzyrea |
when does lastseen get updated? |
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wizzyrea |
I keep trying to get it to change on say, opac login |
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wizzyrea |
but it doesn't seem to? |
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wizzyrea |
that's with the pref to track that on |
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wizzyrea |
if nobody knows I'll just go chase it down |
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caroline_catlady |
lastseen for borrowers you mean? |
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caroline_catlady |
I thought lastseen was for transactions (like loan, return, etc), but I might be wrong |
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caroline_catlady |
If you do chase it down, let us know? |
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wizzyrea |
yeah |
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wizzyrea |
the syspref says... |
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wizzyrea |
TrackLastPatronActivity |
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wizzyrea |
track last patron activity. Every time a patron will connect, the borrowers.lastseen will be updated with the current time. |
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wizzyrea |
so that seems to indicate a "connection" idk what that means really |
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wizzyrea |
what is a connection in this context? |
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wizzyrea |
a new session? |
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wizzyrea |
anyway |
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wizzyrea |
that's where I'm at :) |
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wizzyrea |
ohhhh |
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wizzyrea |
it'll only do it daily |
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wizzyrea |
so once a day |
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wizzyrea |
if you log in, it'll update your lastseen |
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wizzyrea |
that's a bit dumb because it's a datetime |
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wizzyrea |
but whatever! |
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wahanui |
whatever is local. |
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ashimema |
I think it's also set by SIP |
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ashimema |
Oh really.. I wasn't aware of that at all |
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ashimema |
Glad I'm not testing it.. lol |
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ashimema |
So is it not a timestamp but just a date |
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ashimema |
That could be fun to test |
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ashimema |
Do something, wait a day.. lol |
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ashimema |
Wha.. |
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wizzyrea |
it *has* a timestamp |
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ashimema |
Wierd |
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oleonard |
See y'all tomorrow |
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wizzyrea |
ashimema, weird is exactly what I said! |
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Joubu |
wizzyrea: have you seen bug 15504? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15504 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Track Patron's Last Activity |
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Joubu |
and also bug 18821 (updated only once a day since that bug has been pushed) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18821 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, TrackLastPatronActivity is a performance killer |
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wizzyrea |
right, I just went and read the code to find out what I found out - but thatks bvery much for the bugs those are interesting |
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cait |
davidnind++ |
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cait |
good night all |
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vero |
what to do for the user to start with his cardnumber replacing the userid, thanks |
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alifa |
Hi |
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alifa |
Is there any way to restrict permissions to download attached files so just a specific patron group or list can download attached file or even specific material type through Opac? Also is it possible to restrict number of files every group can download per day or mounth? |
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alifa |
If not I thinks it is neccessary that it should be a system that control permissions for download attached files for example dissertations of PHD just was downloadable for PHD degree patrons; or patron accounts can be charged by payment or something else so patrons can download based on creadit of his account |
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alifa |
In our library we use a library system that very complete and multi-layer system for access to files for example by patron groups, libraries, material type etc. but it seams that koha has not any solution for it. |
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vero |
what system we use, alifa |
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alifa |
we have a library system named Azarsa, one of most popular library softwares in my country |
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alifa |
but its unimarc based and has a lot of problems so we want replace it by another marc21 based |
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alifa |
you know someone can create custom plugins for koha? vero |
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vero |
modules of your library.programming |
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