Time Nick Message 22:27 vero modules of your library.programming 22:23 alifa you know someone can create custom plugins for koha? vero 22:11 alifa but its unimarc based and has a lot of problems so we want replace it by another marc21 based 22:09 alifa we have a library system named Azarsa, one of most popular library softwares in my country 22:06 vero what system we use, alifa 22:02 alifa In our library we use a library system that very complete and multi-layer system for access to files for example by patron groups, libraries, material type etc. but it seams that koha has not any solution for it. 22:02 alifa If not I thinks it is neccessary that it should be a system that control permissions for download attached files for example dissertations of PHD just was downloadable for PHD degree patrons; or patron accounts can be charged by payment or something else so patrons can download based on creadit of his account 22:02 alifa Is there any way to restrict permissions to download attached files so just a specific patron group or list can download attached file or even specific material type through Opac? Also is it possible to restrict number of files every group can download per day or mounth? 22:02 alifa Hi 22:00 vero what to do for the user to start with his cardnumber replacing the userid, thanks 21:34 cait good night all 21:34 cait davidnind++ 20:29 wizzyrea right, I just went and read the code to find out what I found out - but thatks bvery much for the bugs those are interesting 20:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18821 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, TrackLastPatronActivity is a performance killer 20:23 Joubu and also bug 18821 (updated only once a day since that bug has been pushed) 20:22 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15504 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Track Patron's Last Activity 20:21 Joubu wizzyrea: have you seen bug 15504? 20:10 wizzyrea ashimema, weird is exactly what I said! 18:51 oleonard See y'all tomorrow 18:43 ashimema Wierd 18:37 wizzyrea it *has* a timestamp 18:36 ashimema Wha.. 18:36 ashimema Do something, wait a day.. lol 18:35 ashimema That could be fun to test 18:35 ashimema So is it not a timestamp but just a date 18:35 ashimema Glad I'm not testing it.. lol 18:34 ashimema Oh really.. I wasn't aware of that at all 18:33 ashimema I think it's also set by SIP 18:32 wahanui whatever is local. 18:32 wizzyrea but whatever! 18:32 wizzyrea that's a bit dumb because it's a datetime 18:32 wizzyrea if you log in, it'll update your lastseen 18:31 wizzyrea so once a day 18:31 wizzyrea it'll only do it daily 18:31 wizzyrea ohhhh 18:28 wizzyrea that's where I'm at :) 18:28 wizzyrea anyway 18:28 wizzyrea a new session? 18:28 wizzyrea what is a connection in this context? 18:28 wizzyrea so that seems to indicate a "connection" idk what that means really 18:28 wizzyrea track last patron activity. Every time a patron will connect, the borrowers.lastseen will be updated with the current time. 18:27 wizzyrea TrackLastPatronActivity 18:27 wizzyrea the syspref says... 18:27 wizzyrea yeah 18:27 caroline_catlady If you do chase it down, let us know? 18:27 caroline_catlady I thought lastseen was for transactions (like loan, return, etc), but I might be wrong 18:26 caroline_catlady lastseen for borrowers you mean? 18:26 wizzyrea if nobody knows I'll just go chase it down 18:25 wizzyrea that's with the pref to track that on 18:25 wizzyrea but it doesn't seem to? 18:25 wizzyrea I keep trying to get it to change on say, opac login 18:25 wizzyrea when does lastseen get updated? 18:25 wizzyrea can someone tell me, off the top of their heads 18:22 oleonard ashimema: That's what I did. Posted a link to my GitLab 18:21 ashimema That's probably the easiest thing to do and then recommend people use the bywater or newest ptfs-e sandboxes and pount them at the branch instead of using git bz 18:21 ashimema 23013.. do you have GitHub or anywhere to post a branch for that bug Owen? 18:21 caroline_catlady still weird, like oleonard said that itemcallnumber doesn't sort the right way though 18:20 caroline_catlady oh cool 18:19 Shane-S cn_sort looks perfect 18:17 Shane-S We imported all our record from an old Follet System running on OS 9 using the MARC converter and have been using this DB since 3.x days, server is a new build since 2016. Not that it helps much, I just try and get it working I will try and adjust the sort 18:15 pastebot "Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My SQL" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2699 18:11 caroline_catlady Shane-S: can you share your sql here? paste.koha-community.org 18:10 caroline_catlady must be encoding then? 18:09 caroline_catlady oh right... 18:09 oleonard s/Bug/But 18:08 oleonard caroline_catlady: Bug if you're simply sorting by itemcallnumber that's looking at call number as-is, nothing to do with classification scheme. 18:08 Shane-S thank you! 18:08 Shane-S No clue what scheme we use...I will check that out and try the cn_sort 18:08 caroline_catlady it is weird, somehow I wonder if the classification scheme is not lcc or something 18:07 oleonard I am curious, though, why the values in Shane-S's report are sorting the way they are. 18:06 caroline_catlady also, make sure your items have the "other classification scheme" value in the classification field (952$2 I think) 18:06 caroline_catlady Shane-S: try sorting by cn_sort 18:04 Shane-S oleonard: ORDER BY i.itemcallnumber ASC, b.title, datelastseen DESC 18:03 oleonard Shane-S: And you're sorting specifically by itemcallnumber? 18:01 Shane-S Version is 18.11.05.000 18:00 Shane-S Would I have to the CLI and pull the records out to see if there are odd characters now being presented in HTML? 18:00 Shane-S So I have report I made via SQL sorting in itemcallnumber and the results don't make sense. We are using text like "F AP" and "F AL" for stuff...but some records are sorted out of place. https://snag.gy/K6EBd3.jpg 17:28 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve UX of buttons on order search page 17:28 oleonard cait did you see my comment the other day on Bug 23031? 17:26 oleonard ...which is a bummer because I'm excited about it and want it to be easily tested. 17:25 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade DataTables in the staff client 17:25 oleonard Bug 23013 ready for testing, but I couldn't get the patch on Bugzilla 17:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #267: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/267/ 17:15 wahanui Congratulations! 17:15 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #251: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/251/ 17:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #757: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/757/ 17:03 wahanui Congratulations! 17:03 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:37 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:37 Joubu @later tell alex_a Tu pourrais jeter un coup d'œil à ça stp: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/hea-app/merge_requests/1 16:34 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Upgrade DataTables in the staff client 16:34 oleonard (Bug 23013) 16:33 ashimema lol 16:31 oleonard Oooh I made a patch too big for git-bz. Is there a prize for that? 16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 22867: (QA follow-up) Build items.json for UniqueItemFields" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e90086fe78dcf6d2aad590f30cb81f255f4104d7> 16:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #250: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/250/ 15:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #266: UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/266/ 15:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #756: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/756/ 15:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #265: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/265/ 15:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #249: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/249/ 15:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #755: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/755/ 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20986: Add 867 and 868 holdings display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c23276324c4da519130f35cb7c471402965b3e1b> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 20986: (follow-up) Avoid br tags, but allow for line breaks to be added easily... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65de22a6ef928bd6074e9a4d6a1e1351d0e1de9b> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 8558: Improve confirmation message for importing frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4d1318550af78f76b7a43757bbdc4c5bddb4d5f> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22867: UniqueItemFields preference value should be pipe-delimited <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c3890462750eb2b874da8afbd0e4899b11e3c42> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 8558: (QA follow-up) a little more text clean up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d046c2e3d301a7e1d37b376b49a0db516e67bda> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22867: (QA follow-up) Build items.json for UniqueItemFields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b97acab4d368ccbced7d99b21fdf371f8c51f1ba> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22867: Update the syspref's description in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a268487d4e52fea538b9bbe6d2f0efad2fda50a1> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22910: Do not copy unique patron attributes to duplicated patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3358e97c8a1f9edf1c4de6dea46f70366237699> 15:12 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22867: DBRev 19.06.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33660ea283a007b668d9f230994be1869b0ac629> 14:57 davidnind night/morning/evening everyone! 14:47 davidnind bye cait! 14:47 davidnind Will do! 14:47 cait bye all, bbl :) 14:45 cait I think we'll need his help in figuring this out 14:45 ashimema yup 14:45 cait if you make the bug, maybe add galen charlton to it in cc 14:45 wahanui i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. 14:45 AnnaBoten Error: "!!" is not a valid command. 14:45 wizzyrea !!! 14:45 cait yeah tht would totally be my approach 14:45 caroline_catlady we'll dewey everything on the wiki, lol 14:45 davidnind hi wizzyrea! 14:44 davidnind See if anyone misses it? 14:44 wizzyrea hi 14:44 davidnind :-D 14:44 cait and it was a bit buggy 14:44 cait i think noone knows how it works 14:44 davidnind To many categories can be just as bad as not enough 14:43 davidnind You'd think with some librarians around we would be good at categorising things! 14:42 oleonard Yeah I think the categories are often more confusing than helpful 14:42 davidnind I'm happy to log a request on bugzilla and take it from there (when I next wake up!) 14:42 ashimema but.. personally I don't like it ;) 14:42 ashimema it's the categorytree stuff that I think was the sticking point in particular 14:41 davidnind Extensions installed https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Special:Version 14:35 davidnind I'd be happy to test and find any problems (I think setting up a mediawiki install was relatively easy, although I've not done it for a long time...) 14:34 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10215: Increase the size of opacnote and librariannote for table subscriptionhistory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8592474c3fe6af408c7265a50bd1776a76942397> 14:33 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22919: Fix insert of authorities_normal_marc21.sql with strict SQL modes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=703ec1e2f24345146c997398b9c0cc492016455d> 14:33 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23027: Make Suggestions.t pass even if no biblio in DB <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e825751cda6a920aa2455908970a3f8e85c1a4e8> 14:33 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22958: Fix help link on the SMS providers page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f93acbc6c0344151da794a73476de1f91000502> 14:33 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10215: (follow-up) Correct existing data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9713e13893c9f2d2b12cea29b23b72a25170462e> 14:33 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10215: (follow-up) Fix the failing test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=117061d88420231d709515f4702446e60f7de4b6> 14:33 oleonard I think that's as good an approach as any 14:33 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10215: DBRev 19.06.00.002 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3346b50bd00778c2e8364b40a7dd7a891c713b4> 14:33 davidnind What's the best approach, log a bugzilla item and take the discussion from there? 14:32 oleonard An straight upgrade might be impossible because of plugins, so it may require some kind of manual migration of content 14:31 davidnind MediaWiki 1.16.2 is really quite old now - 2011! 14:30 oleonard https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#wiki.koha-community.org 14:30 oleonard Yes 14:29 oleonard I think Equinox 14:29 davidnind Who looks after the hosting for the wiki? 14:29 davidnind I did see it, when I woke up! 14:28 oleonard davidnind: Did you see our brief discussion earlier about upgrading the wiki? 14:27 caroline_catlady oleonard: lol! 14:27 oleonard Schedule all meetings on US holidays to keep the loudmouths out ;) 14:27 davidnind phew, thanks everyone and apologies for going over time! 14:26 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_6_june_2019.2019-06-06-13.13.log.html 14:26 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_6_june_2019.2019-06-06-13.13.txt 14:26 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/documentation_irc_meeting_6_june_2019.2019-06-06-13.13.html 14:26 huginn` Meeting ended Thu Jun 6 14:26:57 2019 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 14:26 davidnind #endmeeting 14:26 davidnind #info Next meeting 4 July 2019 13:00 UTC 14:26 davidnind thanks AndyBoze! 14:26 davidnind we have no more public holidays until October in NZ :-( 14:26 AndyBoze 4 July works for me, too. 14:25 davidnind happy to keep to the normal time which would be 4 July 14:24 caroline_catlady I am away training that week, but feel free to hold it sans moi 14:24 AndyBoze It's good for me. 14:23 davidnind any is everyone happy with this time? 14:23 davidnind that would make it 11 July 2019 14:23 davidnind The general IRC meeting is a week later because of US holidays, should we do the same? 14:22 davidnind #topic Set time for next meeting 14:22 davidnind #action mailing list website security certificate causes browser errors, raise an issue on bugzilla 14:21 davidnind thanks cait! 14:21 cait for the archive 14:21 cait oh oops sorry, yes from me too! 14:20 davidnind maybe add on bugzilla under the infrastructure area 14:19 davidnind I didn't notice as I added an exception probably ages ago... 14:18 caroline_catlady but that was weeks ago, I was wondering if they were able to reproduce 14:18 caroline_catlady I'd already sent an email to paul 14:18 oleonard Self-issued by Biblibre, so it's just a technicality. But unfortunate. 14:18 caroline_catlady ok, glad to know it's not just me :) 14:17 oleonard caroline_catlady: Yes. Self-issued SSL certificate. 14:17 davidnind #agreed The koha-docs mailing list archive will be made open 14:17 caroline_catlady does anyone else have a security warning when going to that page? 14:16 huginn` Yes (4): ashimema, davidnind, caroline_catlady, AndyBoze 14:16 huginn` Voted on "Do you agree to making the koha-docs mailing list archive open?" Results are 14:16 davidnind #endvote 14:15 ashimema #vote Yes 14:15 AndyBoze #vote Yes 14:15 caroline_catlady #vote Yes 14:15 davidnind #vote Yes 14:14 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:14 huginn` Begin voting on: Do you agree to making the koha-docs mailing list archive open? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 14:14 davidnind #startvote Do you agree to making the koha-docs mailing list archive open? Yes, No, Abstain 14:14 davidnind I'll start a vote... 14:13 caroline_catlady if everyone is in agreement, I would say go ahead, but we can vote too 14:13 davidnind if it is something we need to vote on... 14:13 davidnind (have always wanted to runga vote thingy!) 14:13 davidnind does anyone have anything they would like to add, or should we just vote on it? 14:12 davidnind the feedback was all in agreement (thanks for those that provided it!) 14:12 davidnind I sent a message to the mailing list about making the archive open https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/koha-docs/2019-June/thread.html 14:10 AndyBoze I can stay. 14:10 davidnind #topic Other items 14:10 davidnind thanks! 14:10 * ashimema is still listening 14:10 caroline_catlady I'm around anyway 14:10 davidnind is everyone able to hang in there for a few minutes to do the koha-docs mailing list or would you prefer just to set the time for the next meeting? 14:09 davidnind #info other things to work on are the new features 14:08 davidnind #info things to work on for 19.05 release - system preference changes and notices 14:07 cait those are quick and i think might be often looked up 14:07 cait maybe sysprefs, notices 14:07 davidnind apologies for going over, I'm conscious hat you are all working at the moment I think! 14:06 davidnind thanks lucyvh! 14:06 lucyvh Sorry, I have to drop out of the meeting for school run - bye for now 14:06 davidnind has anyone got any ideas on specific priorities, or things they want covered first? 14:06 davidnind ashimema: that would be great, even if it is a text file or something attached to the bug would provide a great starting point 14:05 caroline_catlady ashimema is getting his whip ready lol 14:04 * ashimema is going to slowly ramp up the requirement for original bug submitter to at least submit a first cut manual entry 14:04 davidnind So if you are looking for something to do, this may be a good place to start 14:04 davidnind There should be tasks in taiga (thanks caroline_catlady!) for all of these 14:03 davidnind For the 19.05 release I'm conscious of trying to get the new features such as mana and the changes to system preference incorporated 14:02 davidnind great, I'll make sure I pick those up, add to taiga, and be a bit more responsive 14:01 cait yeah, true for the typos 14:01 cait davidnind: mostly my coworker doing translation right now, he filed bugs for screenshots at least 14:00 caroline_catlady that's fine, everyone makes typos. It's just that when we translate, it's one sentence at a time, so it's obvious 14:00 davidnind #info raise bugs on bugzilla for any text that is difficult to translate or where there are typos 13:59 davidnind that's great, english-only speakers can get lazy when we write! 13:58 caroline_catlady I instructed the fr-FR team to open bugs on bugzilla if they found typos or things that needed work 13:58 davidnind #info active work being done on German and fr-FR translations 13:57 caroline_catlady I know the fr-FR team is working on the french version a lot... not so much for fr-CA 13:57 davidnind do you feedback into the english version where you find it difficult to translate the text? 13:56 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 13:56 davidnind excellent! 13:55 cait we are actively wrking on the German tarnslation for 18.11 currently 13:54 davidnind yet... 13:54 davidnind I think I'll skip over translation - I haven't got my head around how this works... 13:54 davidnind I think I 13:53 davidnind #topic Next steps 13:52 davidnind I think we've covered this, unless anyone has anything to add or any more ideas? 13:52 davidnind #topic Workflow 13:51 davidnind any other thoughts before we move onto the next agenda item? 13:51 davidnind #action davidnind to put together a list of documentation tasks from easy to harder to help those getting started 13:50 davidnind and I need to put together a list of tasks from easy to harder that people to get started on 13:48 davidnind I guess to summarise we need to make it as easy as possible for people to get up to speed (in a gentle way) using git and the workflow 13:48 davidnind I just did something yesterday to test it out, and I didn't get any of the errors 13:47 caroline_catlady rangi++ 13:47 caroline_catlady woohoo! 13:47 cait yep 13:47 caroline_catlady is that the pipeline fials? 13:47 cait #info gitlab configuration has been fixed so forking doesn't give you CI errors 13:46 cait yay! 13:46 davidnind ff s/be off! 13:46 davidnind just to finish ff the agenda item, rangi has made some changes on gitlab so that if you fork the repository you don't get continuous integration errors when you make a change 13:44 davidnind perfect for providing feedback on anything we come up with, or on Editing the Koha Manual page! 13:44 caroline_catlady there's this, but it seems really detailed https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 13:44 lucyvh I think those links will be really useful - particularly the last one! 13:43 AndyBoze I've only had a little experience with git, and nothing too recent. 13:43 lucyvh No, I'd never used it until I started doing the manual 13:42 davidnind luncyvh and AndyBoze: is git something you are familiar with? 13:41 davidnind I guess pulling together some of the useful guides for beginners would be useful as well 13:41 cait #link http://ohshitgit.com/ 13:41 davidnind I like this one too http://ohshitgit.com/ 13:40 cait #link https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-git 13:40 caroline_catlady oh no nevermind, its codeschool that was merged 13:39 cait oh! 13:39 caroline_catlady this is the one, codecademy ws merged with pluralsight 13:38 caroline_catlady #link https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/code-school-git-real 13:38 cait i think codeacademy has a free git tutorial as well 13:38 davidnind #action create a section on git for beginners for editing manual, aimed at those who aren't familiar with git 13:38 cait #info manually updating screenshots is ok, until automation is sorted out 13:38 caroline_catlady re: git: this is a course I followed when I first started here, and it clears it up a lot (though I still need my git sensei at work) https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/code-school-git-real 13:37 davidnind for screenshots, I think just manually updating them at the moment until I get the automated part sorted out 13:36 ashimema what sorts of tasks you're wanting to carry out and then I can advice on how best to approach them 13:36 davidnind agree, we also talked about having a visual guide or diagram of the git workflow 13:36 cait so we got stuck ont he question how to fix them 13:36 cait i was not sure about the guideline (screenshots) - my coworker was filing bugs for outdated ones 13:36 * ashimema is happy to help but would need guidance as to what sort of thing you needed 13:35 caroline_catlady (screeshots) 13:35 caroline_catlady cait: unless we need a new one right? 13:35 cait not sure what is needed 13:35 cait would you be able to write it? 13:35 caroline_catlady (on the wiki I mean, not in the manual) 13:34 caroline_catlady to explain the process because for most of us, git isn't a part of our day to day and may be hard to get a hold of 13:34 cait do we refrain from updating screenshots until we have figured out automation? 13:34 caroline_catlady after talking with severine and lucyvh, I think we should do a "git for librarians" section 13:34 cait i got a question :) 13:34 cait ah ok 13:34 davidnind cait: I skipped over those as I haven't made much progress on those... 13:33 davidnind there was a lot of interest in getting started with editing the manual 13:33 cait shoudl we got ot the action points? 13:32 cait #info If you need to get access to taige, ask caroline_catlady, davidnind or Lee 13:32 davidnind it still worked out okay in the end with the workshops 13:32 caroline_catlady so lee, me or david 13:32 caroline_catlady :) 13:32 caroline_catlady for taiga, I guess any team manager present or past 13:31 * ashimema apologises the 'workshops' didn't go as to plan as I'd hoped.. I wanted to try and make them more interactive but on the day the facilities didn't really lend themselve to it. 13:31 cait i got it :) 13:31 cait just for the info 13:31 cait who do go to for taiga access? 13:31 cait #info davidnind to get merging rights on gitlab 13:31 davidnind thanks cait, I forget to do those! 13:31 cait #info Kohacon had a documentation presentation and a workshop, thelatter focusing on release notes in bugzilla and editing with gitlab 13:30 oleonard If it doesn't look to others like you're bad at presentations it means you're good at presentations 13:30 cait we shoudl probably #info more 13:30 cait davidnind++ 13:30 davidnind :-D 13:30 davidnind also did a "workshop" at kohacon, which was more of a presentation on adding text for the release notes in bugzilla and the easy way to edit the manual on GitLab 13:29 caroline_catlady it didn't show, it was great 13:29 davidnind thanks, not the greatest at presentations... 13:28 caroline_catlady ok, let me check right now 13:28 davidnind caroline_catlady: not yet I think for merging rights (although I haven't tried!) 13:27 caroline_catlady yes awesome presentation! davidnind++ 13:27 cait and davidnind did a great presentation and capitalization updates 13:27 davidnind caroline_catalady: yes you did! 13:27 caroline_catlady Also, did you get merging rights on gitlab? 13:26 AndyBoze I've been trying to get prepared for working on documentation, so I'd love to tackle some of the easier things to get started. 13:26 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ 13:26 caroline_catlady davidnind: did I make you admin on taiga? 13:26 davidnind sorry that took so long, AndyBoze is added now as well 13:25 lucyvh Thanks for adding me to the Taiga team btw. I've not had chance to do any updates though 13:25 davidnind every little but helps, and everyone has been busy I think 13:25 ashimema :) 13:25 davidnind ashimema added a section to the intro on contributing to Koha 13:24 caroline_catlady yeah ,that's about all I did for the whole cycle, so no ++ for me 13:24 davidnind it is a bit of a mission trying to keep all the things pushed updated on taiga! 13:24 davidnind caroline_catalady++ 13:23 caroline_catlady Before KohaCon, I updated taiga with the release notes 13:22 davidnind I've not done much, apart from some minor updates 13:22 davidnind there was kohacon... 13:21 davidnind I've added a quick update on the agenda, but to summarise... 13:20 davidnind #topic What's been done so far 13:20 davidnind no worries, we started a but late because of "technical difficulties" on my end! 13:19 davidnind hi caroline_catlady! 13:19 davidnind Will try and get on top of these in the next few days, particularly the list of suggested tasks to work on (from easy to hard) 13:19 caroline_catlady Hi sorry I'm late! 13:19 caroline_catlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 13:18 davidnind No progress to report on my actions points, so I think I will skip over these 13:17 davidnind #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_6_June_2019 13:16 davidnind #topic Action points 13:16 davidnind Hi everyone, thanks for coming along, and apologies for the late start! 13:14 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA 13:14 AndyBoze #info Andy Boze, University of Notre Dame, USA 13:14 lucyvh #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe 13:14 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe 13:13 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 13:13 davidnind #topic Introductions 13:13 magnuse for what it is worth 13:13 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_6_june_2019' 13:13 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:13 huginn` Meeting started Thu Jun 6 13:13:24 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:13 davidnind #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019 13:13 magnuse the meeting that was yesterday started 24 hours and 12 minutes ago, i think 13:12 davidnind Apologies everyone, my network cable fell out and I was talking to myself! 13:11 ashimema or https://koha-community.org/calendar/ 13:11 oleonard Or this, without requiring login: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=9favfolvgbh721ar2uusnbddlo%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FNew_York 13:11 lucyvh Thanks 13:10 oleonard https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=OWZhdmZvbHZnYmg3MjFhcjJ1dXNuYmRkbG9AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ 13:09 lucyvh I always look on the wiki page only 13:09 lucyvh Where's the calendar ashimena? 13:06 ashimema oopsi 13:06 ashimema depending on if you look at the calendar or the wiki page 13:06 cait oh 13:06 ashimema your either a few minutes late or nearly an hour early cait 13:06 oleonard We just don't know!! 13:05 cait am I late? 13:05 cait hi :) 13:04 ashimema caroline_catlady: 13:04 ashimema caroline around yet? 13:03 oleonard Joubu around by any chance? 13:02 ashimema the wiki and the calendar dissagree with eachoher 13:02 ashimema oh wierd.. 13:02 lucyvh I think we decided at the last meeting to hold it slightly earlier 13:00 lucyvh My converter thingy says it should be now 13:00 AndyBoze I thought it was now. 13:00 ashimema coolios 12:59 oleonard Sounds right to me 12:59 ashimema or did I get my timezones wrong again 12:59 ashimema it's an hour until the docs meeting right? 12:58 AndyBoze Hello! 12:58 davidnind Hi AndyBoze and lucyvh! 12:34 eythian magnuse: nah, that can't be it. 12:33 magnuse eythian: maybe he doesn't like stalkers 12:32 eythian oh, that made him leave before I even pressed enter. 12:31 eythian marcelr: I spent a while the other day hanging around your work, because I have a visitor who visited there. 12:30 eythian hi oleopard 12:30 oleonard Hi eythian 12:29 oleonard Is it plack or memcached which makes it necessary to restart_all after making a change to columns_settings.yml? 12:27 eythian hi 12:10 magnuse marcelr: i wonder if misc/bin/set-selinux-labels.sh still makes sense. it has not been updated since it was submitted in 2012... 12:10 magnuse kia ora marcelr! so nice to meet you in dublin! 12:03 oleonard pass 11:59 kidclamp link on serials home: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/serials/subscription-add.pl 11:59 kidclamp link when viewing a subscription: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/serials/subscription-add.pl?biblionumber_for_new_subscription=42 11:58 kidclamp should 'New subscription' when viewing a subscription default to the same biblionumber? it seems odd to have diffeeent behaviour 11:56 oleonard Maybe if gmcharlt is available he could pop into the meeting 11:55 cait if we really end up missing something, reimplement.. but i doubt we will 11:54 cait and a recent version 11:54 cait i think go back to basic 11:48 oleonard Good idea 11:48 ashimema there's a docs meeting later today.. perhaps it could be brought up 11:48 ashimema but.. I would argue most of them can be removed as we're not using the majority properly and those we are have often become core features in recent mediawiki's 11:47 ashimema we have lots of random plugins installed which prevent us from upgrading I believe 11:47 oleonard I can't remember the reason for the hold-up, but I know it wasn't just inertia. 11:47 ashimema I gave up 11:47 * ashimema has been trying to get the mediawiki verson upgraded for literally years 11:45 cait for new pages without categories 11:45 cait and the stange navigation behaviour is not nice too 11:45 cait yeah :( 11:45 * oleonard always worries we're missing wiki features because we're on an old version of MediaWiki 11:41 cait i can take care of bug clean-up next week i think have to ask rangi 11:40 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Post_major_release_tasks 11:40 oleonard Maybe someone could watch the wiki page and make updates to the other page as needed 11:39 cait link and updat both? 11:39 cait yeah 11:38 oleonard ...except folks can update their own listings in the wiki but not on the web page 11:38 cait guess we should deduplicate :) 11:37 cait https://koha-community.org/demo/ 11:37 oleonard Biblibre's https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Installations 11:37 wahanui which one is that 11:37 cait oh which one? 11:36 oleonard That 3.22 installation, still hangin' on! 11:34 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 11:34 cait @later tell gmcharlt equinox demo is lat on 17.11 now - maybe give it a little push? 11:34 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 11:34 cait @later tell wizzyrea - just updated demo versions again, 3 on 19.05 already 11:33 wahanui hi oleopard 11:33 calire hi oleonard 11:29 * cait waves at marcelr 11:29 oleonard Hi all 10:25 gk I am trying to install 19.05 on ubuntu 18.04 using packages and not able to update after adding repository Error: apt-secure(8) 10:24 gk hi koha 10:20 marcelr hi calire :) 10:16 calire hi marcelr 10:10 marcelr hi #koha 07:47 cait hi matts, hi boss 07:47 wahanui bidet, ashimema 07:47 ashimema hi 07:45 matts hi :) 07:42 cait it's good to be back :) 07:41 magnuse kia ora cait 07:30 * cait waves 07:28 magnuse 'i liliputech_asu 07:28 liliputech_asu 'lo :) 03:29 wizzyrea i have a fluffy doggie next to me, that's nice 03:28 wizzyrea [off] note that none of those feelings are related to *work*, which is fine. 03:27 wizzyrea yeah doin ok ;) 03:27 wizzyrea [off] I have feelings but the official answer is 03:18 alexbuckley and how are you? 03:17 alexbuckley its nice doing the group tours in Morocco as you meet a load of travel obsessed people from all around the world (most were from Canada) and make lots of new friends (we're all still in contact weeks after that tour finished and plan to meet up again at some point) :) 03:13 wizzyrea hehe yeah I reckon! 03:13 alexbuckley will take a few weeks to process as seen so much the start of the trip ends up a bit of a blur 03:11 wizzyrea so awesome 03:11 wizzyrea <heart eyes> 03:10 alexbuckley I did have the best time. So many amazing experiences like staying with my Moroccan guide's family which was so cool 03:10 wizzyrea it looked like you had THE BEST time 03:10 alexbuckley hehe yes I am, keen to get back into it 03:09 wizzyrea you aren't at work are you?! 03:09 wizzyrea lol omgosh just today 03:09 alexbuckley hi wizzyrea, yup back from my massive holiday. landed at 11am this morning after 36 hrs of commuting from Geneva 03:06 wizzyrea hi alexbuckley - are you back from your massive holiday? 02:12 wizzyrea akshully never mind it doesn't track a login anywhere that must have been a coincidence 02:09 wizzyrea ) 02:09 wizzyrea (and lots of other stuff 02:09 wizzyrea but updated_on... seems to update with a login 02:09 wizzyrea huh. lastseen doesn't seem to actually log the last opac login like the schema suggests it should 01:35 alexbuckley Hi all!