IRC log for #koha, 2019-05-24

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06:38 reiveune hello
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08:29 tuxayo Ho, is down :(
08:29 tuxayo Has anyone heard of a maintenance?
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09:52 vfernandes hi #koha
09:54 vfernandes koha-translate is down?
09:57 tuxayo vfernandes: yes :(
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10:26 tuxayo hi indradg o/
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11:07 vfernandes label creator searching by dates is working on ES?
11:10 m23 vfernandes ES is used just for biblio and authority seraching
11:12 vfernandes m23: label creator searches on biblio data and except the search by acquisition date range works
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12:24 oleonard HI all
12:46 m23 oleonard Hi
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13:57 ashimema erm..
13:57 ashimema is Jenkins sick
13:57 ashimema tcohen about?
13:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #87: STILL FAILING in 16 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/87/
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14:00 oleonard Hi ashimema, wizzyrea
14:00 oleonard ashimema you back to the regular grind?
14:04 wizzyrea hi friends
14:06 tcohen hi all
14:06 tcohen will take a look
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14:16 ashimema I am indeed oleonard
14:16 oleonard My condolences
14:16 ashimema though right at this minute I'm struggling to keep my eyes open.. kohacon late night are having their toll
14:17 ashimema how are you guys doing?
14:17 * oleonard is doing well
14:17 ashimema we missed you all
14:17 oleonard Same!
14:18 ashimema Marseille perhaps oleonard ?
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14:18 oleonard My next trip is KohaCon 2020.
14:18 oleonard Saving all my travel dollars for that.
14:19 ashimema I'll be trying hard to build up enough brownie points to attend that one ;)
14:20 oleonard ashimema: Volunteering to be RM should be enough??
14:22 ashimema haha.. it's the kids and other half I have to persuade ;)
14:22 ashimema becoming RM was probably a step in the wrong direction there.. haha
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14:22 ashimema nah, they're very supportive.. I'm doing them an injustice to suggest anything otherwise.  But it'll certainly be a bigger ask to head over to NZ for a while vs going to Dublin for 3 nights
14:23 oleonard I don't even feel like I can ask... That's why I have to save up.
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14:25 Freddy_Enrique Greetings everyone
14:26 oleonard Hi Freddy_Enrique
14:26 Freddy_Enrique Hi there oleonard :)
14:27 ashimema nice to see you Freddy_Enrique
14:27 ashimema hope you carried on progressing nicely last week.. appoligies for the absense
14:27 * ashimema is away next week too.. family hols I'm afraid
14:28 Freddy_Enrique Been a while... the thimg is.... Studies hace been tedious lately
14:28 Freddy_Enrique I've been asked something. But I couldn't solve it
14:29 Freddy_Enrique A friend set in LOC values: Sala 1 and 2
14:29 Freddy_Enrique but in the OPAC he gets this
14:30 Freddy_Enrique
14:30 Freddy_Enrique I think the LOC value should go under
14:30 Freddy_Enrique I chequed his OpacLocationOnDetail
14:32 Freddy_Enrique but... things are normal
14:32 Freddy_Enrique any thoughts about this?
14:33 vfernandes Freddy_Enrique that looks like something is missing on CSS
14:33 ashimema Pass from me in afraid
14:33 vfernandes can you put here the OPAC URL?
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14:34 Freddy_Enrique sure
14:35 Freddy_Enrique
14:35 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: Do you mean you think the shelving location information should show below the library name?
14:36 Freddy_Enrique It worked that way the times I used it
14:36 reiveune bye
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14:36 oleonard The CSS may have changed, I'm not sure... But you could put .shelvingloc { display: block; } into the OPACUserCSS preference to fix it
14:36 Freddy_Enrique Its suppossed to look this way now?
14:36 wizzyrea Freddy_Enrique, you don't happen to have any custom things in your opacuserCSS?
14:37 wizzyrea or in your opacuserjs
14:37 wizzyrea that might be hiding it
14:37 wizzyrea ?
14:37 wizzyrea i can't believe that we'd intentionally take away the shelving location from the OPAC view
14:37 wizzyrea librarians would *scream*
14:37 vfernandes add the CSS rule given by oleonard
14:39 Freddy_Enrique I'm gonna check...
14:39 Freddy_Enrique neither the css nor the java
14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #87: STILL FAILING in 6 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/87/
14:40 tcohen ashimema: there's a problem with docker login
14:40 tcohen fighting it
14:41 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: What do you mean, "neither the css nor the java"
14:42 Freddy_Enrique the opac has a custom css and java code in the mainuserblock. I deleted both of them
14:42 Freddy_Enrique but... the LOC info remains in the same position
14:43 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: It's not custom css which is causing your problem.
14:43 oleonard But custom CSS will solve your problem.
14:43 Freddy_Enrique !
14:43 oleonard The CSS styling of the shelving location did change from previous versions.
14:43 Freddy_Enrique wait... Ill check the version he is using...
14:44 oleonard I don't remember if it was a requested change or if it was accidental
14:44 Freddy_Enrique 18.11.05
14:44 Freddy_Enrique oh... above my current version XD
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15:01 ashimema java != javascript btw
15:01 ashimema thanks tcohen
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15:09 Freddy_Enrique ashimema: OMG
15:11 Freddy_Enrique OPACUserJS... Sorry for the mistake....
15:14 * wizzyrea didnt blink over it, we knew what you meant. ;)
15:16 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: Were you able to solve the problem?
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15:32 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:32 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:42 ashimema sorry, that wasn't meant to come out as a dig... just make sure you knew before going off and learning the wrong language if you so happened to be doing that ;)
15:43 tuxayo +1
15:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:56 wahanui Congratulations!
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16:08 tuxayo confetti!
16:08 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
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16:13 Freddy_Enrique I sm afraid not.... Not an expert using CSS
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16:16 Freddy_Enrique BUt I know now  that current versions of koha works this way.
16:16 * Freddy_Enrique better read the release notes
16:16 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: Edit the OpacUserCSS system preference, ...
16:16 oleonard Paste in this:
16:16 oleonard .shelvingloc { display: block; }
16:16 oleonard ...Save.
16:17 wizzyrea alright international people
16:17 wizzyrea why would I not be getting languages to come up as an installer language
16:18 wizzyrea i've installed the translation
16:18 wizzyrea oh
16:18 wizzyrea is it maybe because i need to do it the old way and not the packages way
16:18 Freddy_Enrique Let me see...
16:18 wizzyrea I bet it's installing the files to the system and not the dev area
16:18 * wizzyrea checks that
16:18 wizzyrea thank you, excellent duck work there.
16:19 oleonard wizzyrea: kohadevbox?
16:19 Freddy_Enrique WHAT SORCERY IS THIS???
16:19 Freddy_Enrique hey, you are the man
16:20 Freddy_Enrique oleonard++
16:20 Freddy_Enrique thanks a lot from me and my partner
16:21 wizzyrea yea it is
16:21 oleonard You're very welcome
16:22 wizzyrea yes that was it I'm a ding dong :)
16:23 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:23 wahanui Congratulations!
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16:23 wizzyrea haha oleonard just got called a sorcerer
16:23 wizzyrea I mean, they're not wrong.
16:23 Freddy_Enrique Time for lunch. See ya all, have a nice... day/night  :).
16:23 wizzyrea bye Freddy_Enrique
16:24 oleonard Negative I am a fierce leopard.
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16:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:56 wahanui Congratulations!
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17:09 wizzyrea hmm
17:09 wizzyrea bug 22925
17:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , AuthenticatePatron should fail if patron has lost card
17:10 wizzyrea What do you think about this functionality?
17:10 wizzyrea you = anyone around
17:11 wizzyrea I think I understand that this is to prevent access to 3rd party things that do dumb stuff like only authenticate with card number
17:11 wizzyrea and I feel like the onus for fixing that stupidity falls on the 3rd party, not us
17:11 wizzyrea i.e. do flappin better dingdongs.
17:12 wizzyrea but maybe I'm unnecessarily mean.
17:12 oleonard wizzyrea: I wonder if it's a matter of disagreement between systems with regard to status codes and such
17:12 wizzyrea and by fixing i mean they should not rely solely on an authentication credential that is basically public.
17:13 wizzyrea it's only for ILS-DI
17:13 oleonard Oh wait... You mean authenticate simply by checking whether the number exists?
17:13 wizzyrea oh no it says with user/password
17:13 wizzyrea hm
17:14 wizzyrea idk why you'd lock people out for a lost card... even if your card number is compromised the password should still be secure
17:14 wizzyrea and there's a v good chance that the card number isn't the username anyway
17:15 oleonard I think that makes sense
17:15 wizzyrea i mean, unless the library that requested this did something like make the cardnumber both the username and password
17:15 wizzyrea in which case i think that's their problem not ours?
17:15 wizzyrea or wrote the password on the card
17:17 wizzyrea we require the email and/or username but not the cardnumber for password resets on the OPAC yeah?
17:17 wizzyrea so if you have the card, you probably can't do a password reset
17:18 wizzyrea unless you have the card, the username, and the email
17:18 wizzyrea all of those are potentially public and no of course it's not impossible that someone (like an abuser) could come up with them
17:18 wizzyrea i'm trying to talk myself into the idea that this is a good idea.
17:18 wizzyrea it's not really working.
17:19 wizzyrea someone convince me
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17:30 wizzyrea oh and you also have to have actual access to the email account of the patron with the lost card, to change the password
17:31 wizzyrea so i mean
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17:56 lisettelatah_ wizzyrea at our consortium the password is the last name of the patron and can't be changed. When we migrated the schools wanted it that way. I could see how it could be helpful in cases like that, but it is pretty uncommon.
17:57 * oleonard shudders
17:58 lisettelatah_ agreed. We've tried a couple of times to change it, but the schools are still adamant.
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18:06 wizzyrea lisettelatah_, I strongly discourage libraries from having such policies and maybe tough love is the only way to convince them to stop doing those things :(
18:07 wizzyrea i know libraries like that exist
18:08 wizzyrea the hard hearted meanie in me says "if they get haxxored it's their own fault"
18:08 wizzyrea because it kinda is. :P
18:08 wizzyrea (another argument, for schools, is that it teaches TERRIBLE internet security practices and they should be teaching best practice. Having your last name as a password is worst practice.)
18:09 wizzyrea i know I am terribly mean
18:09 wizzyrea and I also know why libraries do it
18:09 wizzyrea but they still shouldn't and I want to tell them that every chance I get :P
18:09 wizzyrea because I am mean.
18:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #289: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/289/
18:10 wizzyrea clearly I'm channelling my inner meanie today
18:11 lisettelatah_ I was somewhat horrified when I found out. I've tried a couple of times to convince them. I added it to the next systems agenda (the people who do the report writing and troubleshooting etc for our consortium) because I think I have the best shot of convincing them and getting them to help me change everyone else's mind.
18:19 wizzyrea o ffs
18:20 wizzyrea good luck lisettelatah_ you are doing good works
18:20 wizzyrea does the patch here seem backwards based on the commit message?
18:20 wizzyrea bug 22128
18:21 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22128 normal, P5 - low, ---, rudolfbyker, Needs Signoff , koha-remove fails mysql ERROR 1133 (42000) at line 2: Can't find any matching row in the user table
18:24 wizzyrea oh yes I see
18:24 wizzyrea this person does not know git well.
18:24 wizzyrea that's ok
18:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #279: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/279/
18:27 lisettelatah_ Thanks at wizzyrea
18:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #278: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/278/
18:31 wizzyrea ok I fixed up the patch on 22128 if anyone wants to try it
18:32 wizzyrea (I didn't bc I'm out of time.
18:32 wizzyrea last day of school!
18:32 wizzyrea bbl maybe
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18:52 oleonard Have a good weekend #koha, see you Tuesday
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19:26 wizzyrea hi
19:49 tcohen have a great weekend all
19:55 wizzyrea bye tcohen
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