Time  Nick             Message
06:38 reiveune         hello
08:29 tuxayo           Ho, https://translate.koha-community.org/ is down :(
08:29 tuxayo           Has anyone heard of a maintenance?
09:52 vfernandes       hi #koha
09:54 vfernandes       koha-translate is down?
09:57 tuxayo           vfernandes: yes :(
10:26 tuxayo           hi indradg o/
11:07 vfernandes       label creator searching by dates is working on ES?
11:10 m23              vfernandes ES is used just for biblio and authority seraching
11:12 vfernandes       m23: label creator searches on biblio data and except the search by acquisition date range works
12:24 oleonard         HI all
12:46 m23              oleonard Hi
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13:57 ashimema         erm..
13:57 ashimema         is Jenkins sick
13:57 ashimema         tcohen about?
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14:00 oleonard         Hi ashimema, wizzyrea
14:00 oleonard         ashimema you back to the regular grind?
14:04 wizzyrea         hi friends
14:06 tcohen           hi all
14:06 tcohen           will take a look
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14:16 ashimema         I am indeed oleonard
14:16 oleonard         My condolences
14:16 ashimema         though right at this minute I'm struggling to keep my eyes open.. kohacon late night are having their toll
14:17 ashimema         how are you guys doing?
14:17 * oleonard       is doing well
14:17 ashimema         we missed you all
14:17 oleonard         Same!
14:18 ashimema         Marseille perhaps oleonard ?
14:18 oleonard         My next trip is KohaCon 2020.
14:18 oleonard         Saving all my travel dollars for that.
14:19 ashimema         I'll be trying hard to build up enough brownie points to attend that one ;)
14:20 oleonard         ashimema: Volunteering to be RM should be enough??
14:22 ashimema         haha.. it's the kids and other half I have to persuade ;)
14:22 ashimema         becoming RM was probably a step in the wrong direction there.. haha
14:22 ashimema         nah, they're very supportive.. I'm doing them an injustice to suggest anything otherwise.  But it'll certainly be a bigger ask to head over to NZ for a while vs going to Dublin for 3 nights
14:23 oleonard         I don't even feel like I can ask... That's why I have to save up.
14:25 Freddy_Enrique   Greetings everyone
14:26 oleonard         Hi Freddy_Enrique
14:26 Freddy_Enrique   Hi there oleonard :)
14:27 ashimema         nice to see you Freddy_Enrique
14:27 ashimema         hope you carried on progressing nicely last week.. appoligies for the absense
14:27 * ashimema       is away next week too.. family hols I'm afraid
14:28 Freddy_Enrique   Been a while... the thimg is.... Studies hace been tedious lately
14:28 Freddy_Enrique   I've been asked something. But I couldn't solve it
14:29 Freddy_Enrique   A friend set in LOC values: Sala 1 and 2
14:29 Freddy_Enrique   but in the OPAC he gets this
14:30 Freddy_Enrique   https://snag.gy/eLMUf5.jpg
14:30 Freddy_Enrique   I think the LOC value should go under
14:30 Freddy_Enrique   I chequed his OpacLocationOnDetail
14:32 Freddy_Enrique   but... things are normal https://snag.gy/fPlHNG.jpg
14:32 Freddy_Enrique   any thoughts about this?
14:33 vfernandes       Freddy_Enrique that looks like something is missing on CSS
14:33 ashimema         Pass from me in afraid
14:33 vfernandes       can you put here the OPAC URL?
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14:34 Freddy_Enrique   sure
14:35 Freddy_Enrique   http://159.65.96.135:8081
14:35 oleonard         Freddy_Enrique: Do you mean you think the shelving location information should show below the library name?
14:36 Freddy_Enrique   It worked that way the times I used it
14:36 reiveune         bye
14:36 oleonard         The CSS may have changed, I'm not sure... But you could put .shelvingloc { display: block; } into the OPACUserCSS preference to fix it
14:36 Freddy_Enrique   Its suppossed to look this way now?
14:36 wizzyrea         Freddy_Enrique, you don't happen to have any custom things in your opacuserCSS?
14:37 wizzyrea         or in your opacuserjs
14:37 wizzyrea         that might be hiding it
14:37 wizzyrea         ?
14:37 wizzyrea         i can't believe that we'd intentionally take away the shelving location from the OPAC view
14:37 wizzyrea         librarians would *scream*
14:37 vfernandes       add the CSS rule given by oleonard
14:39 Freddy_Enrique   I'm gonna check...
14:39 Freddy_Enrique   neither the css nor the java
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14:40 tcohen           ashimema: there's a problem with docker login
14:40 tcohen           fighting it
14:41 oleonard         Freddy_Enrique: What do you mean, "neither the css nor the java"
14:42 Freddy_Enrique   the opac has a custom css and java code in the mainuserblock. I deleted both of them
14:42 Freddy_Enrique   but... the LOC info remains in the same position
14:43 oleonard         Freddy_Enrique: It's not custom css which is causing your problem.
14:43 oleonard         But custom CSS will solve your problem.
14:43 Freddy_Enrique   !
14:43 oleonard         The CSS styling of the shelving location did change from previous versions.
14:43 Freddy_Enrique   wait... Ill check the version he is using...
14:44 oleonard         I don't remember if it was a requested change or if it was accidental
14:44 Freddy_Enrique   18.11.05
14:44 Freddy_Enrique   oh... above my current version XD
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15:01 ashimema         java != javascript btw
15:01 ashimema         thanks tcohen
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15:09 Freddy_Enrique   ashimema: OMG
15:11 Freddy_Enrique   OPACUserJS... Sorry for the mistake....
15:14 * wizzyrea       didnt blink over it, we knew what you meant. ;)
15:16 oleonard         Freddy_Enrique: Were you able to solve the problem?
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15:32 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
15:32 wahanui          Congratulations!
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15:42 ashimema         sorry, that wasn't meant to come out as a dig... just make sure you knew before going off and learning the wrong language if you so happened to be doing that ;)
15:43 tuxayo           +1
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15:56 wahanui          Congratulations!
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16:08 tuxayo           confetti!
16:08 wahanui          o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
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16:13 Freddy_Enrique   I sm afraid not.... Not an expert using CSS
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16:16 Freddy_Enrique   BUt I know now  that current versions of koha works this way.
16:16 * Freddy_Enrique better read the release notes
16:16 oleonard         Freddy_Enrique: Edit the OpacUserCSS system preference, ...
16:16 oleonard         Paste in this:
16:16 oleonard         .shelvingloc { display: block; }
16:16 oleonard         ...Save.
16:17 wizzyrea         alright international people
16:17 wizzyrea         why would I not be getting languages to come up as an installer language
16:18 wizzyrea         i've installed the translation
16:18 wizzyrea         oh
16:18 wizzyrea         is it maybe because i need to do it the old way and not the packages way
16:18 Freddy_Enrique   Let me see...
16:18 wizzyrea         I bet it's installing the files to the system and not the dev area
16:18 * wizzyrea       checks that
16:18 wizzyrea         thank you, excellent duck work there.
16:19 oleonard         wizzyrea: kohadevbox?
16:19 Freddy_Enrique   WHAT SORCERY IS THIS???
16:19 Freddy_Enrique   hey, you are the man
16:20 Freddy_Enrique   oleonard++
16:20 Freddy_Enrique   thanks a lot from me and my partner
16:21 wizzyrea         yea it is
16:21 oleonard         You're very welcome
16:22 wizzyrea         yes that was it I'm a ding dong :)
16:23 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
16:23 wahanui          Congratulations!
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16:23 wizzyrea         haha oleonard just got called a sorcerer
16:23 wizzyrea         I mean, they're not wrong.
16:23 Freddy_Enrique   Time for lunch. See ya all, have a nice... day/night  :).
16:23 wizzyrea         bye Freddy_Enrique
16:24 oleonard         Negative I am a fierce leopard.
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16:56 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
16:56 wahanui          Congratulations!
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17:09 wizzyrea         hmm
17:09 wizzyrea         bug 22925
17:09 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Needs Signoff , AuthenticatePatron should fail if patron has lost card
17:10 wizzyrea         What do you think about this functionality?
17:10 wizzyrea         you = anyone around
17:11 wizzyrea         I think I understand that this is to prevent access to 3rd party things that do dumb stuff like only authenticate with card number
17:11 wizzyrea         and I feel like the onus for fixing that stupidity falls on the 3rd party, not us
17:11 wizzyrea         i.e. do flappin better dingdongs.
17:12 wizzyrea         but maybe I'm unnecessarily mean.
17:12 oleonard         wizzyrea: I wonder if it's a matter of disagreement between systems with regard to status codes and such
17:12 wizzyrea         and by fixing i mean they should not rely solely on an authentication credential that is basically public.
17:13 wizzyrea         it's only for ILS-DI
17:13 oleonard         Oh wait... You mean authenticate simply by checking whether the number exists?
17:13 wizzyrea         oh no it says with user/password
17:13 wizzyrea         hm
17:14 wizzyrea         idk why you'd lock people out for a lost card... even if your card number is compromised the password should still be secure
17:14 wizzyrea         and there's a v good chance that the card number isn't the username anyway
17:15 oleonard         I think that makes sense
17:15 wizzyrea         i mean, unless the library that requested this did something like make the cardnumber both the username and password
17:15 wizzyrea         in which case i think that's their problem not ours?
17:15 wizzyrea         or wrote the password on the card
17:17 wizzyrea         we require the email and/or username but not the cardnumber for password resets on the OPAC yeah?
17:17 wizzyrea         so if you have the card, you probably can't do a password reset
17:18 wizzyrea         unless you have the card, the username, and the email
17:18 wizzyrea         all of those are potentially public and no of course it's not impossible that someone (like an abuser) could come up with them
17:18 wizzyrea         i'm trying to talk myself into the idea that this is a good idea.
17:18 wizzyrea         it's not really working.
17:19 wizzyrea         someone convince me
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17:30 wizzyrea         oh and you also have to have actual access to the email account of the patron with the lost card, to change the password
17:31 wizzyrea         so i mean
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17:56 lisettelatah_    wizzyrea at our consortium the password is the last name of the patron and can't be changed. When we migrated the schools wanted it that way. I could see how it could be helpful in cases like that, but it is pretty uncommon.
17:57 * oleonard       shudders
17:58 lisettelatah_    agreed. We've tried a couple of times to change it, but the schools are still adamant.
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18:06 wizzyrea         lisettelatah_, I strongly discourage libraries from having such policies and maybe tough love is the only way to convince them to stop doing those things :(
18:07 wizzyrea         i know libraries like that exist
18:08 wizzyrea         the hard hearted meanie in me says "if they get haxxored it's their own fault"
18:08 wizzyrea         because it kinda is. :P
18:08 wizzyrea         (another argument, for schools, is that it teaches TERRIBLE internet security practices and they should be teaching best practice. Having your last name as a password is worst practice.)
18:09 wizzyrea         i know I am terribly mean
18:09 wizzyrea         and I also know why libraries do it
18:09 wizzyrea         but they still shouldn't and I want to tell them that every chance I get :P
18:09 wizzyrea         because I am mean.
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18:10 wizzyrea         clearly I'm channelling my inner meanie today
18:11 lisettelatah_    I was somewhat horrified when I found out. I've tried a couple of times to convince them. I added it to the next systems agenda (the people who do the report writing and troubleshooting etc for our consortium) because I think I have the best shot of convincing them and getting them to help me change everyone else's mind.
18:11 oleonard         [off] I just complained this week about librarians suggesting people using the last 4 of their phone number as their password
18:19 wizzyrea         o ffs
18:20 wizzyrea         good luck lisettelatah_ you are doing good works
18:20 wizzyrea         does the patch here seem backwards based on the commit message?
18:20 wizzyrea         bug 22128
18:21 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22128 normal, P5 - low, ---, rudolfbyker, Needs Signoff , koha-remove fails mysql ERROR 1133 (42000) at line 2: Can't find any matching row in the user table
18:24 wizzyrea         oh yes I see
18:24 wizzyrea         this person does not know git well.
18:24 wizzyrea         that's ok
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18:27 lisettelatah_    Thanks at wizzyrea
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18:31 wizzyrea         ok I fixed up the patch on 22128 if anyone wants to try it
18:32 wizzyrea         (I didn't bc I'm out of time.
18:32 wizzyrea         last day of school!
18:32 wizzyrea         bbl maybe
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18:52 oleonard         Have a good weekend #koha, see you Tuesday
19:26 wizzyrea         hi
19:49 tcohen           have a great weekend all
19:55 wizzyrea         bye tcohen