IRC log for #koha, 2019-04-26

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02:13 wizzyrea very exciting I can use elasticsearch now
02:13 wizzyrea that's all good night.
02:15 aleisha :)
02:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #260: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/260/
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05:04 Pi_ Hi
05:04 wahanui bonjour, Pi_
05:06 Pi_ bonjour wahanui
05:06 Pi_ I am new to koha
05:06 Pi_ want to start in my school library
05:06 Pi_ though i have installed it on a server
05:07 Pi_ i need some help in cataloging
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05:10 Pi_ Hhi chris
05:10 chris hi
05:10 wahanui niihau, chris
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05:43 cait good morning #koha
05:44 josef_moravec morning cait
05:44 fridolin hi
05:44 cait :)
05:47 cait josef_moravec: are you working on something?
05:47 josef_moravec was going to finally fix
05:47 josef_moravec bug 15400
05:47 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15400 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Failed QA , Display patron age in useful places
05:47 cait ah
05:48 cait sorry for that one :( bad communication on my part
05:48 josef_moravec no problem
06:00 cait my 'up' arrow key stopped working last night
06:00 cait how annoying
06:14 josef_moravec cait: remap it to another key :D
06:16 cait i'll try restart first, i hope it's related to some updates...
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06:16 marcelr hi #koha
06:16 josef_moravec hi marcelr
06:16 marcelr hi josef_moravec
06:17 cait hi marcelr :)
06:17 marcelr hi cait
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06:30 cait josef_moravec: should 15400 stlil be fqa?
06:33 ashimema bug 15400
06:33 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15400 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Failed QA , Display patron age in useful places
06:33 cait ashimema: just got some follow-ups
06:33 cait ok, have to run, bbl !
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06:40 reiveune hello
06:40 wahanui salut, reiveune
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07:22 cait good morning #koha (again) :)
07:22 alex_a Bonjour
07:23 magnuse \o/
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07:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
07:56 wahanui Congratulations!
07:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #71: FIXED in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/71/
07:57 magnuse woohoo!
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08:09 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:09 wahanui Congratulations!
08:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #69: FIXED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/69/
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08:12 Archie^ Good Day to you KohaPeople!
08:15 Archie^ i have a question. How would one enable OPAC front page like Bywater does (latest books in a scroll way) ?
08:16 Archie^ Like So ->
08:17 ashimema it's a plugin
08:17 * ashimema digs out a link
08:17 ashimema[…]-plugin-coverflow I believe
08:19 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:19 wahanui Congratulations!
08:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #224: FIXED in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/224/
08:30 eythian marcelr: will I be seeing you pass by in a boat tomorrow?
08:30 marcelr nee ik blijf aan land
08:31 eythian zo saai
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09:16 AndrewIsh cait:  Around?
09:16 cait here
09:16 AndrewIsh Aloha! :)
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09:16 AndrewIsh Your latest comment on Bug 7088
09:16 cait please don't hate me? (just in case)
09:16 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7088 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Cannot renew items on hold even with override
09:16 AndrewIsh https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=7088#c49
09:16 huginn` Bug 7088: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Cannot renew items on hold even with override
09:17 AndrewIsh Can I just clarify, you mention the two sysprefs, but don't specify whether you had them enabled or disabled
09:17 cait oh
09:17 cait i copied and forgot to fill it out
09:17 AndrewIsh Lol
09:17 cait fixed
09:18 AndrewIsh Aha, that makes sense now, thanks! :)
09:18 cait sorry!
09:18 AndrewIsh No worries, sorry this bug is being so troublesome, we'll get there in the end!
09:19 cait :)
09:32 ashimema go team
09:39 Archie^ ashimema:  i'm a little bit confused. The instruction says we need to modify the web server configuration for the public catalog and add the followup. Does this mean i have to modify apache2.conf?
09:41 ashimema correct I believe
09:42 ashimema I've not installed that one myself for a long time ;)
09:42 ashimema I know our customers do use it though and our support people install it for them when needed
09:43 Archie^ aye tnx. i think i'm doing something wrong but can't figure out what it is :)
09:43 Archie^ thanks
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09:46 ashimema InLibro also support a carousel plugin.. you might find that easier?
09:46 ashimema though the source code is less open so as much as I think I trust InLibro myself it's just a tad harder to see the source and make the decision to use the plugin yourself
09:46 ashimema
09:48 * ashimema would like to followup there with "that's not a dig at inlibro, even though I would love to see their code more openly shared".. you can still look at the code by unzipping the .kpz file manually anyway
09:50 Archie^ thank you :)
09:53 kidclamp Archie^: if you have any questions about the plugin let me know - we are working towards not needing the apache changes, but we haven't revisited that one yet
09:55 Archie^ i think i've might messed up some CSS, right now it just doesn't show to me
09:55 Archie^ i think some tweaking on my part necessery
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10:23 cait marcelr++ thx for your Friday QA - you always seem to pick the ones that give me headache :)
10:24 marcelr np
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10:48 * ashimema would love opinions on his lunch time project bug 21626
10:48 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21626 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Add 'current maintenance team' to the 'Koha team' page
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11:28 oleonard Hey
11:32 Archie^ where can i modify what user group has access to what sections?
11:33 oleonard Archie^: There's no such thing as user groups in Koha
11:33 Archie^ the patron categories that is
11:34 Archie^ or should a create Patron Category for every Library separately?
11:34 oleonard Archie^: What are you trying to do? What's your goal?
11:35 Archie^ I wanna create a new user that is librarian and he can only search within his Homebranch and does not have access to Koha administration section
11:36 oleonard As far as I know there isn't a way to limit a user to a single branch without doing so for all users too
11:37 Archie^ what if i create a new patron category "library_a" and limit the search for the whole category?
11:38 oleonard Actually Archie^ I probably don't know what I'm talking about because I don't know how patron category-based branch limitations work
12:23 oleonard kidclamp awake?
12:23 * kidclamp rubs his eyes, *blnks* wha?
12:24 oleonard Oh no you fell asleep at your desk just before you pushed all the patches!
12:24 oleonard I saw you cc'ed me on Bug 22779 but I haven't had a chance to look. Should I be focusing on Bug 22408 first? Should we coordinate?
12:24 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22779 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Simplify add serials form to single page
12:24 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Subscription entry form cleanup
12:25 kidclamp I think you should do 22408, and I can do some stuffs on 22779
12:25 kidclamp or you can just take my ideas and do them all :-)
12:25 kidclamp that page just takes a lot of clicks, I want to reduce it to 1 ideally
12:26 kidclamp but I don't know how people would feel about removing the vendor warning - well, many would be happy, but those relying on it might not
12:26 cait kidclamp: i have discussed making modals with oleonard - I'd really like to keep the preview and the controls next to each other
12:26 oleonard Okay kidclamp I'm going to test yours and SEE WHAT YOU'VE GOT
12:26 kidclamp he, it is quite rough owen
12:27 cait i woudln't mind the vendor alert gone
12:27 kidclamp cait: side by side is fine with me, but I want it autogenerated
12:27 kidclamp if they must preview, then why make them click to do it
12:27 cait also: either the subscription end date is mandatory and shoudl be marked as such or it is not and it shoud allow me to not enter it
12:27 cait but not indicating it's mandatory and then forcing me is not nice
12:27 cait kidclamp: while you enter data ?
12:27 kidclamp yes
12:27 kidclamp why not?
12:28 cait i think that could be rather annoying
12:28 cait the human eye moves to where movement is
12:28 cait when i enter data and are not finished
12:28 cait i don't want it to flicker all the time
12:28 cait distracting me
12:29 cait it depends on what the trigger for refresh is
12:29 kidclamp then I would say hide it, have a button to show it, but don't make it mandatory
12:29 cait if changing any input triggers... i'd not like that i think
12:29 cait ?
12:29 cait ah
12:29 cait the forcing on save
12:29 kidclamp like it is there, if you want to see it you can, but making the user generate it is annoying
12:29 cait i coudl live without that
12:30 cait but not auto-refresh while i am working on a pattern all the time
12:30 cait keep the button there
12:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #72: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/72/
12:30 cait maybe we'll need a draft to discuss
12:30 kidclamp with it under on mine it doesn't really affect your entering, i.e. you don't see it until you look for it
12:30 cait i think having some of the options from the first page on the second would make a lot of sense
12:30 cait like the 'skip number or not' should be on the second page
12:30 kidclamp all
12:31 kidclamp there shoudln't be two pages
12:31 cait but it should nto get too much
12:31 cait it's tricky
12:31 kidclamp it is not too much
12:31 kidclamp have you entered a borrower ;-)
12:31 cait hehe
12:31 cait yeah and there is a reason we hide anything the library deems unnecessary
12:31 magnuse can "Stage MARC records for import" ingest MARCXML now, or is it still just iso2709?
12:31 cait and have added a quick add
12:32 kidclamp this is not really so many fields though, I wondered, but once you put them together it is not bad
12:32 cait i am sure between you and owen you will make it work :)
12:32 kidclamp owen is the smarts about pretty making
12:37 magnuse who feels like squashing the patches on bug 8995?
12:37 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8995 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Show OpenURL links in OPAC search results
12:38 kidclamp not me :D
12:40 cait they are old
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: (QA follow-up) Fix new uses of Koha::Biblio::items in list context <[…]e7213694b05e4ca8a>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10300: DBRev <[…]4dee7ad5f3d827f31>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22035: Compiled CSS <[…]1997e312e74d21c33>
12:40 cait possible different sign-offers etc?
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22056: Removed test directory, including and README <[…]9a5feb7577ff582eb>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22715: Remove extraneous html filter <[…]a01e9dec9eda81504>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22200: (follow-up) Wrap accountline creation in a transaction <[…]99f8ad41dab94a199>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22765: Add class beside loggedinusername to indicate if logged in user is a super... <[…]fe6566cbb9abe192b>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22621: Fix filters on subscription search results <[…]88685a24788583e0c>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22200: Add Tests for change <[…]55116679a2a540eea>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22200: Add credit when forgiving overdue <[…]af4cd3b8d18346c01>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: (follow-up) Update interaction for deleting records <[…]ca3e8758b76233931>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: (QA follow-up) Change success status on api <[…]3bf1f36f67310d843>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: (QA follow-up) remove text/javascript <[…]5a6fdd88a37c66e1f>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: Delete Bib After Moving Item <[…]d5b51dac4bc470ce6>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: Tidy code block (Whitespace changes only) <[…]94fbaec00b84871a8>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: Add API endoint for deleting a bib <[…]7f97c63f68f30a4a3>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10300: (follow-up) add controls on transfers page <[…]4e2081728aeba5748>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22035: Improve local cover image browser page <[…]4cc9dca251356971a>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21589: Series link formed from 830 field is incorrect <[…]4a0fe243fae9c465c>
12:40 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 10300: Allow transferring of items to be have separate IndependentBranches syspref <[…]74233471a07d616b8>
12:42 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:42 wahanui Congratulations!
12:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #68: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/68/
12:42 oleonard wahanui++
12:43 cait kidclamp: we usually don't squash for different people, i think it will turn out hard to make it on this one
12:43 cait and you can always do a diff over multiple commits?
12:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #70: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/70/
12:43 cait it's one of these things that has missed so many releases now it's sad
12:43 magnuse poor old 8995, are you really sure a squash is necessary kidclamp?
12:44 kidclamp I am not going to insist on it, it nevers hurts to ask  though
12:44 kidclamp back in a while
12:45 Archie^ waaaaait a second. How do you add access to INTRA for users?
12:46 cait it depends on how you set it all up?
12:46 cait or do you mean how you can give an existing user access?
12:46 Archie^ if i'm creating a new user and set it to  patron group librarian, how do i give that patorn group access to intra
12:48 oleonard Archie^: That's what I mean when I said Koha doesn't have patron groups
12:48 oleonard Archie^: Permissions are set on a per-user basis, not per-category
12:48 Archie^ right, how do you add the permisions to the user then?
12:49 oleonard View the patron in the staff client, click the "More" menu in the toolbar, choose "Set permissions"
12:49 Archie^ ah yes, thank you
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12:50 oleonard Perhaps someone could look at the error described on Bug 22408 and see if they can tell what might be going on. I can't reproduce the problem.
12:50 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Subscription entry form cleanup
12:53 Archie^ hmm that is a strange behaviour. If i remove access to Koha administration to user, the button is still there. But when i press it i get thrown out of Koha and can't enter anymore
12:53 oleonard What button?
12:53 Archie^ koha administration
12:53 oleonard Oh, the link on the staff client home page?
12:54 Archie^ yes
12:54 cait bug 13937 - woohoooo! < alex_a
12:54 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13937 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Add an Elasticsearch-compatible Z39.50/SRU daemon that can inject item status MARC subfields
12:54 Archie^ and it says "you don't have permission to this page"
12:54 Archie^ so i have to remove that part from the link
12:54 oleonard Archie^: Did you change the permissions for the logged-in user?
12:54 Archie^ only so i can enter the koha again
12:54 Archie^ mm maybe
12:55 oleonard The link for that section will definitely go away if you're logged in as a user who doesn't have permission for any admin function
12:55 oleonard You do have to log out and log in again for those permissions to correctly take effect
12:56 Archie^ ok makes sense
12:59 cait oleonard++
13:00 magnuse oleonard++
13:02 oleonard I hope that karma can power my will to rebase Bug 22537
13:02 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22537 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Suspend all hold button appears even if the hold can no longer be suspended
13:03 * oleonard glares at Bug 21772
13:03 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21772 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, agustinmoyano, RESOLVED FIXED, Add holds and account information tab to the SCO module
13:04 Archie^ oleonard: so i logged out of everything. restarted the server and tried to give the access again
13:04 Archie^ nothing changed
13:05 oleonard Archie^: You don't need to restart the server. I'm not sure what's going on but it's probably something simple.
13:05 oleonard What do you mean you tried to give the access again?
13:05 Archie^ i removed all of the accesses for the librarian user
13:06 Archie^ tried to login with it into intra just to be sure that the access was removed
13:06 Archie^ then i gave access to stuff bbut removed acces sfrom koha administration
13:06 Archie^ tried to login with librarian user -the button with administration was still there
13:08 Archie^ does it have anything to do with the CSS that i modified on the main intra page?
13:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #211: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/211/
13:09 oleonard Archie^: The link is not hidden from users without permission using CSS, so CSS can't show it
13:11 oleonard Archie^: please verify that in the user's permissions nothing is checked in the "parameters" section, and the user doesn't have "superlibrarian" checked
13:11 Archie^ ok i'll try again
13:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #225: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/225/
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13:13 Archie^ oleonard:  yeah, so this is what is checked for him
13:13 Archie^
13:14 oleonard When you expand the "parameters" section nothing is checked?
13:14 Archie^ nope it's empty
13:15 oleonard What version of Koha is this?
13:15 Archie^ as in nothing is checked in it
13:15 Archie^ Koha version:
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13:22 oleonard Sorry Archie^ I don't know what's going on. I've tested in 18.11.04 and it works correctly for me.
13:22 Archie^ oh well
13:23 cait Archie^: remove the self check
13:23 cait that will give you trouble with logging into the OPAC - it's only for the self check user
13:25 Archie^ i removed self check for librarian and i still can login into opac with it :/
13:26 Archie^ maybe there is some sort of .pl process that is not being executed ?
13:28 cait can or can't?
13:29 Archie^ i can
13:29 cait that's correct
13:29 cait the self check user is for the web based self check, that's a differnt feature
13:29 cait every user without any permissioncan log into the opac
13:30 Archie^ the problem is i removed access from tools & administration but the buttons still are available (altho if i click on them i get loged out of koha)
13:31 cait you tried to log in and log out?
13:31 cait um the other way around
13:31 Archie^ yah, multiple times. i even rebooted the server
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13:32 cait that shoud not be necessary
13:32 cait sorry I don't know waht the issue could be then
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13:46 Archie^ ok so i've removed all of the roles except staff login, i can login into intra and all of the buttone are preset and i get kicked out of the intra if i press anything )))
13:52 cait Archie^: which version is this?
13:52 cait can you try in a different browser please?
13:52 cait Bug activity
13:52 cait 2019-04-24:  276 changes 2019-04-25: 396 changes
13:52 cait 2019-04-26: 305 changes
13:52 cait so many changes...
13:53 oleonard cait: They're on 18.11.04, which I tested without being able to reproduce the problem
13:53 cait i had werid behavioru with cookies getting stuck at times
13:53 cait but... it's really a straw
13:55 Archie^ Koha version:
13:55 Archie^ i'll check on firefox, give me a minute
13:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #71: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/71/
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13:59 oleonard Hey wizzyrea
13:59 wahanui hmmm... wizzyrea is very glad the git repo is reliably working todya
13:59 Archie^ same thing on FireFox
14:00 cait sorry, i am out of ideas :(
14:01 wizzyrea hallo
14:02 wizzyrea does anybody use koha-testing-docker
14:02 oleonard Archie^: Sorry, what you're testing is a very basic function of Koha that works well for most people. I think we're missing some piece of information but I don't know what it is.
14:02 * wizzyrea missed the original question
14:03 ashimema yup
14:03 ashimema I use koha-testing-docker literally all the time wizzyrea
14:03 wizzyrea cool I've got questions lol
14:03 ashimema it's a central part of my QA and Dev workflows
14:03 wizzyrea but I think maybe I answered them
14:03 ashimema whilst you're here.. did I image you started to do some followups to the koha news bug?
14:04 wizzyrea so after a reboot, it's always docker-compose -p koha up to start the cluster?
14:04 wizzyrea or something different
14:04 ashimema I meant to go and so/qa some.. I remember a tag line like "lets get these in for the 10th" then I got overwhelmed with work :(
14:04 ashimema sorry I missed them
14:04 wizzyrea oh it's not til the 29th
14:04 wizzyrea :)
14:04 ashimema `docker-compose -p koha up` is perfect
14:05 wizzyrea cool, I kind of figured
14:05 wizzyrea because well I just tried it and it worked
14:05 wizzyrea but I thought maybe there was another thing
14:05 ashimema the repo doesn't change all that often, but it's worth doing a git pull now and then before running the 'up;
14:05 wizzyrea the -p is to make it provision if it hasn't already?
14:06 ashimema correct I believe
14:06 * wizzyrea is a little lost in docker land vagrant makes more sense to me
14:06 ashimema ocassionally it's nice to do `docker system prune` and `docker rmi $(docker images -q)` whilst it's all shutdown too
14:07 ashimema those basically clean out all the images and re-download them afresh.. sometimes nice when you're just not sure what's gone wrong (which still happens for me ocassionally)
14:07 ashimema docker land is still fairly new to me too
14:07 wizzyrea have you seen a case where say, the Koha apache server doesn't start but all of the rest do?
14:08 wizzyrea i just got that :P
14:08 * ashimema pesters tcohen allot whenever he gets stuck
14:08 ashimema hmm.. never seen that
14:08 ashimema ahh
14:08 ashimema when did you get your image?
14:08 ashimema or rather.. when did you last clone
14:08 wizzyrea like hmmm 2 days ago
14:08 ashimema tcohen was playing with it last night and changed some apache stuff.. the most recent commit reverts his changes last night
14:09 ashimema hmm.. ok.. so not likely to be that then
14:09 wizzyrea oh maybe I need it :P
14:09 ashimema also.. two really nice, but really not well documented, commands once you're inside the docker
14:09 ashimema 'reset_all' and 'dbic'
14:10 cait available on kohadevbox too :)
14:10 wizzyrea oh yes I tried those first thing
14:10 wizzyrea cait, i really just wanted this for elasticsearch testing
14:10 wizzyrea because I couldn't make it work in devbox :(
14:11 wizzyrea I have a devbox on here too lol
14:11 wizzyrea the other thing that isn't clear in the docs
14:11 wizzyrea is how you get to the web interface
14:11 wizzyrea :P
14:11 wizzyrea I sorted it out (I ran an ip a inside the container and that's the address)
14:11 wizzyrea with the ports
14:12 ashimema yeah.. i've never actually used the UI from it
14:12 wizzyrea !!!!
14:12 AnnaBoten Error: "!!!" is not a valid command.
14:12 ashimema I pretty much just run the tests within it
14:12 wizzyrea i figured that would be a rather primary use case
14:12 wizzyrea lol
14:12 wizzyrea i mean, getting to the UI
14:12 ashimema would be nice to have clear docs on how that stuff works
14:12 wizzyrea :P
14:13 ashimema my docker is running on my dev server with is a remote server.. with another two koha's already running on it
14:13 wizzyrea i will probably write some down I have a fork of that
14:13 cait yes docs.... waiting for that before making a switch
14:13 ashimema so it's really not clear how I'd get to the ui ;)
14:13 wizzyrea cait I am your action girl
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14:14 ashimema well.. it's sorta in the name.. it was always initially designed for the Jenkins environment where the UI isn't ever needed ;)
14:14 ashimema but it's grown a bit.. so shouldperhaps be renamed
14:14 wizzyrea also possibly we should drop "testing"
14:14 ashimema it's more a devbox mk II now
14:14 wizzyrea yeah kinda
14:14 wizzyrea i mean, if it's easier to ES on it
14:14 wizzyrea which it seems it is
14:17 wizzyrea ashimema, kshell works in there as well
14:19 ashimema yup
14:19 wizzyrea I say as if I know stuff which akshully I don't
14:19 wizzyrea (it's just that none of that is on the readme
14:19 wizzyrea we could take an abridged version of the devbox readme
14:19 ashimema so what bug was it you hoped to get in for your 10 year aniversary?
14:20 wizzyrea oh it was...
14:20 * ashimema can't see the wood for the trees
14:21 oleonard wizzyrea: Go for an old one... Bug 569 maybe?
14:21 huginn` Bug[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=569 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searches need 'browse' option
14:21 oleonard Actually isn't that a duplicate now?
14:21 wizzyrea i had done something
14:21 wizzyrea a few days ago
14:22 oleonard Geeze the second-oldest NEW bug is assigned to me. I should run away from that one.
14:22 ashimema OMG.. I had no idea there were still three digit bugs left?
14:22 oleonard I still like Bug 813
14:22 huginn` Bug[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=813 enhancement, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , OPAC lists should store comments
14:23 wizzyrea haha it was all the patches on 22664
14:23 wizzyrea ok so yeah I gotta find a new one lol
14:24 ashimema coolios
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14:26 ashimema so those all went in did they.. I got confused as I think I as they appeared after the initial PQA :)
14:26 wizzyrea yeah but they all got signoffs I guess?
14:26 wizzyrea idek
14:27 ashimema there's only two patches on the bug itself..
14:27 ashimema :confused:
14:27 ashimema me wonders if they got moved somewhere or something..
14:27 wizzyrea there were only two patches I thought
14:27 wizzyrea there were a few places done in the 2nd patch
14:27 ashimema I haven't reached that but yet in my rmaint queue.. only 161 commits to go!
14:27 ashimema ack
14:27 ashimema cool
14:28 ashimema :)
14:28 oleonard We could also try to fix some bugs before the tenth anniversary of their report date :) Bug 3194 reported 2009-05-05
14:28 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3194 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hide records in the OPAC if all items are lost and "hidelostitems" is on
14:28 wizzyrea goodness don't we have that?
14:29 ashimema nice idea
14:29 wizzyrea lol we have some nonsensical rules on our default itypes
14:30 wizzyrea "VM - 5.00 rental fee, not for loan"
14:30 wizzyrea wut
14:32 oleonard Bug 3194 works for me
14:32 wizzyrea FINISH IT
14:32 wizzyrea lol
14:33 cait wizzyrea: if you hide via opachiddenitems that works, but not with the old pref
14:33 cait i think tcohen wants to kill it anyway?
14:33 wizzyrea yeah, it'd be a conversion tho
14:33 wizzyrea for old libraries
14:33 wizzyrea maybe the fix for that bug
14:34 wizzyrea is to make a db update that says "if you have this syspref set put this in your opachiddenitems"
14:34 oleonard cait: It works correctly for me in master. Do you want to test before I mark it resolved?
14:34 wizzyrea and get rid of the syspref
14:34 wizzyrea or it works fine and we've just got an orphan
14:34 wizzyrea :)
14:35 cait wizzyrea: we coudl automate i think - but have to write it with all lost status and warn they need to extend when defining a new one
14:35 cait maybe that's more the issue
14:35 wizzyrea <> 0?
14:36 cait don't thin that works in YAML syntax
14:36 wizzyrea but yeah, extending it when/if they add a new lost status
14:36 wizzyrea bleh
14:36 wizzyrea I feel like that shouldn't happen all that often tho
14:37 wizzyrea like it'd happen at implementation time, or near to
14:37 wizzyrea but those libraries wouldn't be using the old syspref in the first instance
14:39 ashimema there's something in an accounts pref like that too I think
14:40 ashimema yup
14:40 ashimema 'MarkLostItemsAsReturned'
14:40 ashimema that pref can end up screwed through upgrades :(
14:41 cait hm?
14:41 wizzyrea at a certain point it probably makes sense for a library to dump out their patrons, circ/history, and catalogue and import it all into a fresh Koha
14:42 wizzyrea like a migration
14:42 wizzyrea but like
14:42 ashimema it goes from a boolean to a list, (which works well in the update in that if you had the boolean set to true it would select all cases in the list).. but then in a later update we add another option to the list but we don't set it
14:42 wizzyrea nobody'd want to pay for that
14:42 ashimema so.. if you wanted 'all' as your selection the update would end up breaking it.
14:42 ashimema mmm
14:42 ashimema I meant to file a bug for it but think I forgot..
14:43 ashimema or maybe I did then couldn't work out how to retrospectively fix it.
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14:46 cait wizzyrea: don't agree there... what woudl you win?
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14:46 cait you'd have to redo the whole config... probably easier t compate datatable structures
14:50 ashimema 98 to go
14:50 * ashimema is tired
14:52 ashimema ps bug 22749 may be what fixed your thing above if you wanted to mark it as a dupe
14:52 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22749 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Koha::Item->hidden_in_opac should consider hidelostitems syspref
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14:56 wizzyrea well, redoing the config isn't necessarily a bad thing
14:56 wizzyrea a lot of libraries find that they have things a certain way only because of history
14:56 wizzyrea maybe there is a new, better way to do it
14:56 wizzyrea in the newer version
14:58 wizzyrea (i'm not advocating this as a routine upgrade strategy)
14:58 wizzyrea (only, perhaps, for very old installations)
14:58 * wizzyrea recalls upgrading Horowhenua libraries, oldest DB.
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15:08 oleonard wizzyrea: I would find that upgrade to be a nail-biter just because of the history
15:08 wizzyrea it is.
15:09 wizzyrea remember when we added columns to the action_logs
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15:10 wizzyrea or changed some column definitions in old_issues
15:10 wizzyrea took so long.
15:10 wizzyrea so long.
15:10 oleonard Hi lisettelatah
15:10 lisettelatah hi oleonard
15:10 wahanui hi oleopard
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15:14 tcohen hi all, public wifi with no IRC ports
15:15 * oleonard hacked the CIA over IRC ports in 1992 and ruined it for everyone
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15:15 tcohen LOL
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15:18 wizzyrea can someone else run the tests for 22284 and tell me if the fact that libraries.t is failing just for me
15:18 wizzyrea is unique to me
15:19 wizzyrea prove t/db_dependent/Koha/Libraries.t t/db_dependent/LibraryGroups.t
15:19 wizzyrea prove t/db_dependent/Holds.t
15:19 wizzyrea prove t/db_dependent/Koha/Biblios.t t/db_dependent/Koha/Items.t
15:20 wizzyrea with the patches on
15:21 * wizzyrea is going to have to go away soon
15:23 oleonard Fails for me too wizzyrea
15:26 wizzyrea ok and you updated the dbic and all that
15:27 wizzyrea idk how your setup is
15:27 wizzyrea thank you for checking on it
15:27 oleonard I did updatedatabase but not dbic
15:28 wizzyrea I did both and it was still failing
15:28 wizzyrea and I feel like that error ought to be fixed by updating dbic
15:28 wizzyrea but gr idk.
15:28 ashimema 40 to go.. phew
15:29 wizzyrea not to interrupt your flow ashimema
15:29 wizzyrea but if you need a qa break
15:29 oleonard I added emoji support to our intranet staff forum recently and now it's broken and I don't know why... Staff is so mad!!
15:30 wizzyrea would you run the tests on that bug 22284
15:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22284 new feature, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Needs Signoff , Groups of pickup locations for holds
15:30 wizzyrea !!!
15:30 AnnaBoten Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
15:31 oleonard (not really mad, but everyone is talking about it. Need those emojis!)
15:33 wizzyrea that's hilarious
15:34 wizzyrea like, what do they use the emojis for?
15:34 wizzyrea tags?
15:34 oleonard Punctuating their posts in the staff-only forum
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15:35 ashimema anyone happen to know if bug 22669 is present in 18.11.x?
15:35 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22669 blocker, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit received item in acquisitions with acqcreateitem set to "when placing an order"
15:35 wizzyrea ooh
15:35 wizzyrea hm
15:35 wizzyrea idk
15:35 wizzyrea i doubt it
15:35 wizzyrea i feel like we'd have heard about it
15:35 wizzyrea i found it on master
15:36 ashimema coolios
15:36 wizzyrea well, is 31c29fd31f557306233e6a2936148a5bb10b89a1
15:36 ashimema I'll take a quick look at those tests for you now..
15:36 wizzyrea in 18.11
15:37 wizzyrea oh, no jonathan got it confused
15:37 wizzyrea is THIS in 18.11
15:37 wizzyrea 1253975389975a8ff11a9bb2ef84582aeb6bd08b
15:37 ashimema yeah.. I must admit hat confused me
15:37 ashimema I'm not sure it was actually that ocmmit
15:38 ashimema aha
15:38 ashimema no. that's not in 18.11 :)
15:38 wizzyrea then it ain't broken :)
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15:39 ashimema excellent.. thanks
15:39 ashimema think my brain is starting to melt.. nice to have it varified
15:40 lukeG does that mean your done pushing to 18.11 ashimema? im racing to catch up with you! :)
15:43 ashimema i have 24 commits still to go
15:43 ashimema sorry for the uber late push
15:43 wizzyrea i just spent an hour in the sun I am feelingn so happy
15:43 ashimema been a manic week
15:44 wizzyrea well, within the boundaries of what an hour of sunlight does for your happiness levels. :)
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15:44 ashimema it's pooring with rain here now
15:45 ashimema so db_dependant/Holds.t passes
15:46 ashimema but t/db_dependent/Koha/Libraries.t does not
15:46 wizzyrea ok great i feel confident in that
15:46 ashimema pickup_locations fails
15:46 wizzyrea it'f failing for 3 of us
15:47 ashimema looking at the error it looks like a case of calling a row method on a set
15:48 ashimema i.e Koha::Item vs Koha::Items
15:48 wizzyrea i've bounced it back to the dev
15:48 wizzyrea probs a typo
15:48 wizzyrea or something
15:48 wahanui something is broken
15:49 wizzyrea indeed.
15:49 wizzyrea alright I'm walking away from my computer now
15:49 wizzyrea i have errands to do :)
15:50 wizzyrea ttyl
15:50 ashimema yuk.. it's gonna be horrible to walk that tree of code backwards
15:50 ashimema have a good one
15:51 ashimema think I'd start by bunging in some stricter type checking
15:51 ashimema looks like he might be passing the set object into one of the verious callers but we don't check the object type to throw an appropriate warning
15:51 ashimema anywho.. punt it back
15:51 ashimema and have fun
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15:54 oleonard I don't want to have to wait for humans to share their weather situation. I want a robot to tell me on demand!!
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16:27 ashimema joubu
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16:32 kidclamp is it a summoning spell ashimema
16:32 kidclamp joubu
16:32 kidclamp only one more time to beetlejuice
16:32 ashimema haha
16:33 ashimema I'll resort to email
16:33 ashimema unless you're feeling especially clever selenium wise ;)
16:33 kidclamp i can try
16:33 kidclamp but I might magic 8 ball you
16:34 * ashimema switches to PM
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17:12 oleonard Bye all
17:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #76: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/76/
17:19 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:19 wahanui Congratulations!
17:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #78: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/78/
17:36 cait :)
17:37 cait that might actually be a new record 2019-04-26: 583 changes
17:38 ashimema told ya it was a rather busy time
17:39 cait it is, but numbers in the queues are almost not moving
17:48 ashimema Productivity has been through the roof.. we all seem to have gotten into our stride
17:49 ashimema Hope you guys are all game for more of the same next couple of cycles.. heh
17:50 tcohen next cycle is resting, and letting the RM do all the things
17:50 ashimema 😥
17:50 ashimema Good cycle guys, let's all take the next cycle off..
17:50 ashimema Haha
17:52 tcohen hahahaha
17:53 tcohen lets keep it rolling ashimema! It's been a great cycle
17:53 cait don't make him run off before he is elected
17:53 cait there is still time after
17:53 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15496: (QA follow-up) Fix remaining cases <[…]995f360147f519d4b>
17:53 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22461: (follow-up) Use `exists` not `defined` <[…]8fc23ffa3ee5ad9d2>
18:06 cait hm bug 22788
18:06 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22788 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Wrong accruing Overdue Amount
18:07 ashimema gmcharlt around per chance?
18:07 cait not stnadard koha
18:07 gmcharlt ashimema: yep
18:07 cait the screenshot shows columns we don't have
18:07 ashimema imagine he's rather tied up with evergreen conf
18:07 ashimema oh.. cool
18:07 ashimema will pm.. one sec
18:08 * cait waves at gmcharlt
18:08 * gmcharlt waves back at cait
18:10 cait :)
18:21 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:21 wahanui Congratulations!
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18:26 tcohen @seen matts
18:26 huginn` tcohen: matts was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 16 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <matts> https://downforeveryoneorjustm[…]
18:31 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:31 wahanui Congratulations!
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18:39 tcohen boo
18:42 wizzyrea hi
18:44 wizzyrea yass all tests are passing
18:44 wizzyrea fun-ctionality nao
19:04 wizzyrea i love the sound of a very relaxed snoozing dog.almost as good as a sleeping baby
19:06 cait hot shower... good food... and i still feel like i could fall asleep on the spot
19:08 wizzyrea maybe you should
19:09 cait you think?
19:09 cait hm.
19:17 wizzyrea yes.
19:17 wizzyrea I do think you should have a rest
19:17 wizzyrea you have been crazy busy
19:18 cait i think i fell behind a bit the last 2 days :) so many things going on
19:21 wizzyrea well you don't catch up as efficiently when you are tired. Just saying.
19:22 * ashimema goes for a bber
19:22 ashimema beer
19:22 ashimema even
19:22 kidclamp I like thinking you went for  beiber
19:23 wizzyrea O.o
19:23 wizzyrea if we're going for teen heartthrobs
19:23 * wizzyrea goes for a timberlake
19:23 wizzyrea j/k I really only like one song of his, the one from Trolls.
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19:24 wizzyrea something about sunshine in my pocket.
19:24 wizzyrea sure
19:32 magnuse y'all should check out the norwegian twins Marcus & Martinus ;-)
19:52 * ashimema sups Gin happily
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