IRC log for #koha, 2018-12-13

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07:22 magnuse \o/
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07:45 reiveune hello
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08:06 Archie^ Hey guys and girls
08:06 Archie^ a question
08:06 wahanui hmmm... a question is a bit general
08:06 Archie^ An error occurred when deleting this library. Check the logs. <-- where is these logs?
08:08 magnuse Archie^: /var/log/koha/<sitename>/
08:09 Archie^ thanks magnuse !
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08:09 magnuse if you are running plack, look for plack-error.log. if not, look for something like intranet-error.log
08:09 magnuse i might remember the names wrong, but you should be able to figure it out once you see them
08:10 Archie^ ya i found it :) thanks agian
08:14 Archie^ Hey magnuse another quick question if i may. Im trying to remove a library and it says This library cannot be deleted. Patrons or items are still using it (4081 items). Can i just remove the Items from "items"' table? or there is a way to remove them from Koha?
08:14 Archie^ as in, delete from items where homebranch = library branch code
08:33 Archie^ Unable to check in :/ this is frustrating without any explanation
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08:39 magnuse Archie^: yeah, just deleting from the items table should work
08:40 Archie^ thanks.
08:41 Archie^ is there a way to troubleshooting why can't items be checked in?
08:43 magnuse Archie^: any error messages in the GUI or in the logs we talked about earlier?
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08:48 Archie^ magnuse:  yes, tons of informations. looks like a date issue? maybe. i'm not sure. Screenshot:
08:50 Archie^ The following ids exist in both tables issues and old_issues: 1 . should i delete the issue from old_issues? :/
08:54 ashimema too late in the day for rangi isn't it
08:55 Archie^ ahh found a fix! I had Id in old_issues 1 and this issue had ID 1 aswell
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09:22 magnuse Archie^: it is this problem: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uto_increment_fix
09:23 magnuse ashimema: 10:23 pm his time, so probably
09:23 Archie^ magnuse:  yes, i remember restarting mysql multiple times. This is the issue. Fixed it :) thank you !
09:50 ashimema indeed.. ta
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10:22 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
10:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #627: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/627/
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11:03 AndrewIsh fridolin:  Hey, I noticed you backported bug 20968 for 17.11.13, many thanks for that! What are the chances of getting bug 21905 backported for the next 17.11.x release? It's tiny and fixes a bug that prevents the use of 20968
11:03 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugins: Add hooks to enable plugin integration into catalogue
11:03 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_en​hancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered
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11:19 ashimema Looks like that latter one hasn't made it to 18.05.x yet.. I'm sure I could expedite that a little if it helps ;)
11:30 AndrewIsh ashimema:  I'm sure that would be helpful for 18.05.x instances :)
11:31 ashimema indeed
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11:54 ashimema does anyone else find the tests written in db_dependant/Accounts.t just plain confusing..
11:55 ashimema there's a random set of tests for chargelostitem at the top.. then a subtest title 'Koha::Account::chargelostitem tests'..
11:55 ashimema but it's not Koha::Account at all..
11:55 ashimema it's C4::Account that contains the method
11:55 ashimema odd
11:56 ashimema and then there's also db_dependent/Circulation/Chargelostitem.t which seems to test the same stuff again
11:56 * ashimema thinks it's time for some cleanup
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12:32 cait hm workig on mailing list emails a bit
12:32 cait has someone taken a look at "instructions DP Tripathi gives at his channel called Library guide" ?
12:34 cait packages?
12:34 cait installing koha?
12:34 cait wahanui: .... you are no help
12:34 wahanui OK, cait.
12:34 cait oops
12:37 Joubu hi #koha
12:37 cait do we still recommend those? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages
12:37 cait hi Joubu!
12:38 Joubu cait: why not?
12:38 cait jut was not sure which are the most current ones :)
12:39 Joubu It is the ref wiki page if you want to install Koha on Ubuntu
12:39 * kidclamp waves
12:40 cait Joubu: trying to answer the email from 3 days ago about a problem installing on ubuntu
12:40 cait following these instructions "https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages"
12:41 Joubu which one?
12:41 wahanui which one are you looking at?
12:41 cait ah... sorry, it was: instructions DP Tripathi gives at his channel called Library guide"
12:41 cait no link
12:42 Joubu I do not see it in the archives
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12:43 marcelr hi #koha
12:44 Joubu Guys, there are very urgent bugs to test (there are patches already!), and most of them must be part of 18.11 and backport. I will put the list here (as I have no idea what I can do with it)
12:44 Joubu Bug 21931 - Upgrade from 3.22 fails when running script
12:44 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21931 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Upgrade from 3.22 fails when running script
12:44 cait Re: [Koha] Problem after the importation of the initial settings of Koha
12:44 Joubu bug 21950 - [OPAC] query_cgi and limit_cgi must not be filtered template-side
12:44 cait to koha
12:44 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21950 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , query_cgi and limit_cgi must not be filtered template-side
12:44 cait on december 10
12:44 Joubu bug  21973 - [Authentication] CAS URL escaped twice, preventing login
12:44 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21973 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , CAS URL escaped twice, preventing login
12:44 Joubu bug 21986 - [Cataloging] quotation marks are wrongly escaped in several places
12:44 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21986 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , quotation marks are wrongly escaped in several places
12:45 marcelr ok Joubu 21798 applies
12:45 cait[…]ember/051979.html
12:46 cait Joubu: do you want tme to send them to the qa team?
12:46 Joubu cait: that may be related to bug 21931 as well
12:47 cait hm fresh installation?
12:47 Joubu cait: whatever you think it could be useful
12:47 Joubu IMO there are blocker for 18.11.01
12:48 cait 373-64 seems like an odd primary key
12:49 Joubu @wunter Buenos Aires, Argentina
12:49 huginn` Joubu: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
12:49 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`.
12:49 Joubu @weather Buenos Aires, Argentina
12:49 huginn` Joubu: I suck
12:49 Joubu what's the command?
12:49 wahanui the command is !jenkins
12:49 Joubu as always you are wrong wahanui
12:50 cait wunder
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12:50 cait @wunder Buenos Aires
12:50 Joubu @wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina
12:50 huginn` cait: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Thunderstorm :: 70F/21C | Thursday: Showers early becoming a steady, drenching rain for the afternoon. High 69F. Winds ENE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Thursday Night: Windy early...thunderstorms likely. Low 68F. NE winds at 20 to 30 mph, decreasing to 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain
12:50 huginn` Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Thunderstorm :: 70F/21C | Thursday: Showers early becoming a steady, drenching rain for the afternoon. High 69F. Winds ENE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Thursday Night: Windy early...thunderstorms likely. Low 68F. NE winds at 20 to 30 mph, decreasing to 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain
12:50 cait @wunder Konstanz
12:50 huginn` cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 35F/2C | Wind Chill: 28F/-2C | Thursday: Partly cloudy. Widespread frost likely. Temps nearly steady in the low to mid 30s. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Clear to partly cloudy. Widespread frost likely. Low near 25F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.
12:51 Joubu the thunderstorms are super strong!
12:51 cait Showers early becoming a steady, drenching rain for the afternoon... ugh
12:51 cait getting cold here
12:53 Joubu cait: I would just answer to follow the wiki page
12:53 cait i tried to do that in a nice way
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13:03 ashimema Hello
13:03 wahanui bonjour, ashimema
13:05 cait hello ashimema
13:05 cait just sent an email about some bugs for 18.11 Joubu highlighted
13:06 cait bbl - time to go outside brrrr
13:15 ashimema ta :)
13:17 marcelr Joubu: did you finish bug 21971; check status ?
13:17 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21971 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , TestBuilder::build_sample_item
13:26 Joubu marcelr: yep, adjusting
13:27 Joubu marcelr: about AddItem - we will replace it with TestBuilder->build_object but only when we will create item using Koha::Item->new (so when the code will be moved from AddItem to Koha::Item)
13:27 marcelr yeah i see addbiblio still too -- too bad
13:27 marcelr let me test it
13:27 Joubu marcelr: I tried but failed, it was the first idea
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14:03 caroline good morning!
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14:15 Joubu I have written a wiki page for Hea, could somebody review it?
14:16 tcohen hola #koha
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14:22 ashimema hi tochen
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15:27 * cait waves
15:27 cait back
15:36 reiveune bye
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15:37 caroline back laterz!
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16:21 cait caroline: i will update the documentation page on the website
16:22 cait
16:24 cait hm or i would... but my login doesn't seem to work
16:25 cait ah, does now
16:37 cait caroline: just moved the versions around, because i noticed 18.11 was still marked development
16:48 cait hm, also removed link to Nicole's email and broken links from[…]ation/other-docs/
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17:47 coyas hello
17:47 wahanui hi, coyas
17:48 coyas i need help in customizing opac
17:49 coyas all this work is hard to understand
17:50 coyas for me(i speak Portuguese)
17:50 coyas not work but word
17:57 coyas what is OPACBaseURL
17:58 cait coyas: have you checked out the manual?
17:58 cait documentation?
17:58 cait manual?
17:58 wahanui somebody said manual was not entirely translated though[…]r/html/index.html
17:58 coyas no
17:58 cait hm not the link i was looking for (wahanui is a bot)
17:58 cait
17:59 cait there is even a portugese version, not sure how complete the translation is
17:59 cait it has descriptions of all system preferences
17:59 Joubu thanks cait for the review!
17:59 cait if you get stuck, you can still ask of course
17:59 cait Joubu: you are welcome :)
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18:13 coyas i know how to put slide book on opac without the user is logged
18:14 coyas who know how to put slide books on opac without the user is logged
18:14 caroline coyas: what do you mean by "silde books"?
18:15 coyas slide
18:17 coyas 5 or more books aside each other
18:17 caroline coyas: ah ok!
18:17 caroline there are plugins for that
18:17 coyas i see something awesome example on google image
18:18 coyas where is find plugins
18:18 caroline There is one here : and one here :[…]a-coverflow-setup
18:19 caroline not sure about that second one, since it's from 2016
18:19 ashimema I wasn't aware of the InLibro one..
18:19 caroline :D
18:19 ashimema what's the difference.. do they have different goals?
18:19 caroline trying to shamelessly plug in our stuff ;)
18:20 caroline I don't know the bywater one, so i'm not sure
18:20 caroline I find ours is a bit ancien looking
18:20 ashimema hehe
18:20 caroline I'm trying to get the devs to work on it to make it more modern, but it's not really a priority
18:20 ashimema I can confirm we've been using the ByWater one with lots of customers on lots of version for a long time
18:20 ashimema be interested to compare
18:21 ashimema hehe
18:21 caroline ashimema: here is one example :
18:21 coyas good
18:21 ashimema oh, interseting
18:21 ashimema cool
18:22 caroline it's based on a public list and the colours are configurable in the plugin
18:22 coyas this last link isn't work
18:22 coyas forguet now is goog
18:22 coyas good
18:23 caroline coyas: ok! good luck!
18:23 ashimema do you guys not link to open repos caroline?
18:23 ashimema I just see a download link which yields the kpz.. but no github or similar link :(
18:24 caroline no, another thing I'm working on... trying to get them more open
18:24 caroline but i'm told the plugins have the perl right in them
18:24 caroline so you can unzip and look at the code
18:25 ashimema indeed you can
18:25 ashimema but...
18:25 ashimema unless I see a licence and a repo I'm generally discouraged to contribute ;)
18:25 Joubu you cannot open issues and merge requests :)
18:25 ashimema indeed
18:26 caroline I know... If you want to give me a list of advantages, I could try to make a case of it
18:26 ashimema and.. in fact.. it kinda puts me off in general.. before I'd use that i'd have to download it.. unpack it (which one has to know that it's just a renamed zip file) and then inspect the code for security holes ;)
18:26 Joubu lazy ashimema :D
18:26 ashimema well.. the big advantage to your company is you 'might' get external contributors
18:27 ashimema well.. with the ByWater one's simpley because it's open it makes me less suspicious
18:27 ashimema though I do generally have a quick look at the code.. I'm not expecting to find naughty tracking or anthing in there in the first place.
18:28 ashimema I will admit.. it's a nice page showcasing your plugins caroline :)
18:29 ashimema that's a positive.. it's a tad harder to find bywater ones
18:29 ashimema and ptfs ones are also pretty hidden.. though likely very UK centric to date being they're mostly online payments ones and a copyright clearance one to date
18:31 cait might still be nice to have as examples
18:31 cait we have a plugin wiki page
18:31 ashimema we do
18:31 ashimema I wasn't aware of that one
18:31 cait
18:31 cait you could add the link htere
18:32 cait caroline: maybe yours too?
18:32 cait oh inlibro is already there!
18:32 caroline yes, added it a couple of months ago hehe!
18:32 cait caroline++
18:33 cait nice logo - did it change?
18:33 caroline last year yes
18:33 cait ah :)
18:33 caroline I did a blog post about it, my first after I started :)
18:35 caroline to go back to the open sharing thing, I'd like to share my training docs, so I'll start with that
18:35 caroline I don't think a lot of ppl are going to contribute
18:35 cait caroline: we could put them on the website
18:36 cait i just deleted a whole lot of links from other docs becuase they were broken
18:36 caroline I'll have to put them online. Right now there on our server
18:36 caroline I'd like my clients to be able to go back and get them too
18:37 caroline If they lose their copy
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19:25 magnuse caroline++
19:26 caroline ?
19:26 caroline just felt like throwing karma around :)
19:26 magnuse for intending to put training materials online
19:27 caroline oh, well it's just an intention so far, I have to convince my boss :)
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19:27 caroline I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here, any material created in the context of work belongs to the employer
19:28 magnuse bit now you got karma for it, you will feel obliged to make it happen for reals ;-)
19:28 magnuse hiya alexbuckley
19:28 caroline hehe!
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20:28 caroline English natives: shouldn't "the latter of the current and expiry date" be "the *later* of the current and expiry date"?
20:29 caroline The latter is the last of the list, no?
20:32 cait i think the latter looks right
20:32 cait the last of current and expiry - so expiry
20:32 caroline but the other options are current date or expiry date
20:32 caroline it's in BorrowerRenewalPeriodBase
20:32 cait oh!
20:33 cait the later
20:33 cait you are right i think - it changes the meaning
20:33 cait the later date
20:33 cait where are those native speakers when you need them?
20:33 caroline drinking beer most likely
20:33 caroline :)
20:34 cait heh
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20:35 cait it seems like a good gues
20:35 cait s
20:35 cait hm no oleonard
20:35 cait rangi?
20:35 wahanui i think rangi is a pretty big get
20:36 Joubu kidclamp: bug 21824 - you did not answer the question :) Be precise, provide an example
20:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21824 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to format dates in various formats in templates
20:36 kidclamp I want to show dates only in a specific format on my notice
20:37 kidclamp we have partners who want iso with no hours, etc
20:37 kidclamp the use case is just wanting more options for date in notices
20:40 cait doesn't dateonly work for no hours?
20:41 cait hm maybe not with TT
20:42 Joubu with TT you can use the KohaDates plugin
20:42 caroline kidclamp! You speak english well!
20:42 caroline What do you think of : shouldn't "the latter of the current and expiry date" be "the *later* of the current and expiry date"?
20:43 cait caroline: are we sure of that? *hides*
20:44 caroline hehe! he has a distinguished mustache, therefore speaks distinguished english
20:46 cait heh
20:47 kidclamp latter is a wierd word
20:47 kidclamp it can mean more recent, so it does work there
20:47 caroline it's in the context of BorrowerRenewalPeriodBase
20:48 caroline ok thanks kidclamp++ :)
21:08 alexbuckley hi all
21:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #139: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/139/
21:15 caroline hi alexbuckley!
21:15 alexbuckley :)
21:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #139: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/139/
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21:29 nuentoter hello
21:29 wahanui salut, nuentoter
21:29 nuentoter quick question, in koc file is there a renew option? or just issue and return?
21:30 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ation_file_format
21:30 cait another issue might act as a renew - but not sure
21:31 nuentoter thats what i was wondering...
21:32 nuentoter ill do a couple entries then to find out. I screwed my last import horrible by setting everything to an issue lol, 2 years of circulation in and outs and reset as just checkouts. ooof
21:32 caroline 2 years of offline circulation??
21:33 nuentoter i used the offline circ tool to import circ data from old non-koha system.
21:34 caroline oh ok! phew!
21:34 caroline I thought you were offline for two years
21:34 nuentoter oh lol i would hope not haha
21:35 caroline I don't know you might have been in a remote library where there is no internet connection, and you can only get out once every two years, so the first thing you do when you are free is to upload your circulation data
21:41 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
21:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #135: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/135/
21:47 Joubu hum... D9 should never have been fixed by this last build!
22:01 ashimema Lol
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22:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #136: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/136/
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23:01 caroline good night all!
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