IRC log for #koha, 2018-11-20

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07:39 magnuse \o/
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07:43 reiveune hello
07:43 wahanui hey, reiveune
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07:51 alex_a bonjour
07:53 ere good morning
07:55 ere ashimema: Hi, I'm not really sure if my work is "sponsored". I mean I work for the National Library of Finland and just my job. :)
08:01 ashimema morning
08:01 ashimema well, if yuo think they'd like to get recognition that you've worked on it on their time then feel free to add the trailers ;)
08:01 ashimema I'm all for recognising contributions every way we can ;)
08:02 ashimema it gives exposure and helps encourage others to contribute too :)
08:07 ere ashimema: Ok, I'll try to remember that in the future :)
08:08 ashimema no worries
08:08 ashimema I'm happy to add the trailes to the commits for you now if you like.. lots of it hasn't been pushed yet
08:08 ere ashimema: That'd be great, thanks!
08:08 ashimema okies
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10:47 cait hm
10:47 cait there is a patch requiring Dancer...
10:51 magnuse cait: we might not want to use both mojo and dancer...
10:51 magnuse which patch?
10:52 cait yeah it was my thinking we might want to discuss this
10:52 cait bug 21210
10:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21210 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, ASSIGNED , Elasticsearch based SRU server
10:53 magnuse ooh, that would be a Very Good enh, though!
10:55 cait true
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11:07 ere magnuse, cait: Yeah, well, that was just something I wrapped up real quick, but from what I recall from talking with kidclamp it would be better to have something more generic. I'll give it a bit more thought as soon as possible..
11:09 ashimema Wouldn't have thought that would be very hard to convert to a mojo app
11:10 ashimema I presume it's a self contained Daemon as its uses Dancer...
11:10 * ashimema hasn't got time to look at the moment
11:11 * ashimema is keen to investigate the run koha as a mojo app at some point too..
11:11 ashimema Would be nice to join the 20th century's
11:16 kivilahtio ashimema: agreed
11:16 ere ashimema: That's an area I don't really know much about. Still, it would be better to not tie the server on a specific search engine implementation if possible..
11:16 tuxayo Hi :)
11:16 tuxayo documentation: Does anyone know if the manual translations are synced with Pootle for every minor release?
11:17 tuxayo I mean this
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11:26 * andreashm waves
11:37 ere hi andreashm
11:38 andreashm hi ere!
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11:50 sophie_m Hi #koha
11:51 andreashm hi sophie_m
11:51 sophie_m For people who are using notices in Koha, using <<today>> in your template, how do you expect the final output, date only or date and time ?
12:19 magnuse sophie_m: i would expect date only
12:29 sophie_m Thanks magnuse. It has changed between 16.11 and 17.11 and I can't find why. I will file a bug
12:35 paxed sophie_m: can't you use <<today | dateonly>> ?
12:38 sophie_m Until now I didn't have to add dateonly. If I choose this solution, I had to modify all the templates of all our clients. If everybody agrees that today should be date only, it is better to change it in the source code
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12:50 cait sophie_m: I amnot sure, but i feel it had the time for a while now
12:50 cait so changing it back without hte option to have the time might be a surprise too
12:51 cait if it was changed in 17.11 it's been like that for a long itme
12:51 sophie_m cait : I have checked. For our customers that are still in 16.11, <<today>> is replaced with date only
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13:20 Freddy_Enrique Saludos #Koha
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13:21 marcelr hi #koha
13:23 cait sophie_m: i believe you - but ti's 2 years already
13:24 cait or 1.5 if it changed with 17.11
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13:25 sophie_m cait : that's why I'm surprised nobody else reacts when it changed
13:26 sophie_m And I am not sure that every Koha in production are all up to date with the last version :)
13:28 marcelr sophie_m: most are on 17.11 i suspect
13:29 sophie_m marcelr: so are most of our clients, but its only now that they report this change.
13:30 tcohen morning!
13:30 sophie_m Nevertheless, I'll try the template modification if I am the only one that it disturb...
13:30 Freddy_Enrique hi tcohen :)
13:30 Freddy_Enrique 17.05 here
13:30 tcohen 17.11 here
13:31 marcelr hi tcohen
13:31 tcohen hi marcelr
13:31 tcohen hola Freddy_Enrique
13:31 marcelr tcohen: any chance to qa 21774
13:31 marcelr tcohen: very small
13:33 magnuse bug 21774
13:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21774 critical, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Cloned item subfields disappear when editing an item
13:36 tcohen Sure, I'll take care later today :-D
13:37 marcelr tcohen++
13:37 marcelr better than manana
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13:39 tcohen :-D
13:39 Freddy_Enrique A question my friends. Is it possible to assign a item in more than one CCODE????
13:39 Freddy_Enrique an*
13:40 magnuse Freddy_Enrique: no
13:40 magnuse CCODE is stored in one field in the db, it can only take one value
13:41 magnuse but you can have different items with different CCODEs attached to the same record
13:41 Freddy_Enrique oh... I asked because of bug 21774
13:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21774 critical, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Cloned item subfields disappear when editing an item
13:41 Freddy_Enrique oh! I didn't explain myself correctly. You are right
14:00 tcohen they can be repeatable
14:00 tcohen they get stored |-separated
14:01 tcohen try it
14:01 tcohen I'm not sure it makes sense
14:01 tcohen but it can be done
14:01 tcohen :-D
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14:06 Archie hey Koha!
14:08 Archie i've come to you in my hour of need as i am unable to understand an issue ive found
14:08 Archie now how in the name of everything that is sacred do you make to log
14:08 Archie if im using -l there is no log (at least i am not aware of) if am using -l=filepath then bulkmarcimport is not working
14:09 * Freddy_Enrique goes blue screen
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14:37 oleonard Hi #koha
14:42 Freddy_Enrique Buenos dias oleonard :)
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15:03 maya hi
15:05 oleonard Hi maya
15:05 maya we have made amd 64-bit debian system multiarch, to install borther printer
15:05 maya our concern is that would it conflict with KOHA packages?
15:14 maya we have made amd 64-bit debian 9.6 system multiarch, to install borther printer  our concern is that would it conflict with KOHA packages or other packages installed before? any help is aprreciated !
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15:37 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:37 mtompset @seen cait
15:37 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 13 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <cait> or 1.5 if it changed with 17.11
15:37 mtompset @seen jcamins_
15:37 huginn mtompset: I have not seen jcamins_.
15:38 mtompset @seen jcamins
15:38 huginn mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 25 weeks, 0 days, 16 hours, 47 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <jcamins> cait: probably 561.
15:38 mtompset I need a MARC expert.
15:38 mtompset When did '9' get added?
15:38 mtompset 009 that is.
15:46 * CrispyBran waves
15:46 mtompset Greetings, CrispyBran
15:46 CrispyBran howdy
15:46 wahanui que tal, CrispyBran
15:46 mtompset CrispyBran, do you know anything about MARC control field 009?
15:47 CrispyBran looking
15:47 oleonard mtompset: Did you check the Library of Congress documentation?
15:48 mtompset The web site doesn't have it...
15:48 mtompset I think 009 is a new addition.
15:49 CrispyBran 009 Cartographic Material - Physical Description Fixed Field (Detailed)  (CM)  [obsolete, 1997]  [CAN/MARC only]:
15:49 CrispyBran CAN/MARC field 009 was made obsolete in 1997 with the definition of the new field 007 for remote sensing images and new values in the maps 008 field.
15:49 CrispyBran That's all I can find.
15:50 CrispyBran Library of Congress does not list it, so it must be old.
15:51 mtompset Hmm...
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15:54 * oleonard starts a gofundme for's medical bills
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16:00 reiveune bye
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16:00 oleonard tcohen around?
16:04 * mtompset frowns, "t/db_dependent/Biblio.t is failing for me. For a test I'm trying to add."
16:08 tuxayo oleonard: why not ;) After all, this part of Koha's infrastructure is used by many of us here for work. :P
16:08 tuxayo Seriously we (libraries and support companies) could put bounties on some bugs heads.
16:09 tuxayo I wonder how hard it is for a library to put money in there.
16:10 oleonard tuxayo: My genuine concern is that rangi is maintaining splitter out of the goodness of his heart and doesn't get the support he needs for it
16:13 oleonard @later tell rangi Is there anything we as a community can do to help get splitter up and stable?
16:13 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
16:16 tuxayo oleonard: Then maybe or could be solutions.
16:16 tuxayo To fund maintenance of software or services.
16:16 tuxayo I don't know, at least for general public a some developpement tools they are gaining adoption.
16:16 tuxayo *general public stuff
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16:28 Shane-S Anyone use a DYMO LabelWrite 400/450 with Koha's barcode creator? I just got one and the tool is nice, but it registers as a printer...just not sure how to create a template for it
16:31 oleonard Shane-S: Is there specific software which comes with the printer? Instead of printing directly to a label printer we export data to printer-specific software which formats it correctly.
16:32 Shane-S There is, do you just do a export via CSV/XLSX and then import into a template?
16:33 oleonard Yes
16:34 Shane-S okay I will have to look into that more, just normal report / sql I assume?
16:35 Shane-S I haven't played with the software much yet, literally got it 3 days ago for my own "IT" needs, just thinking it might be easier then fighting with toner and label alignments
16:36 oleonard We still go through the label creator tool, but we use the "Download as CSV" option and pass that file to the printer software.
16:38 Shane-S oleonard: thanks, you at least directed my thinking "out" of Koha to look more at the label maker
16:55 mtompset What is
16:56 oleonard A site that uses Bugzilla data to find what files have outstanding patches
16:58 oleonard
16:58 oleonard Correction:
16:59 oleonard Joubu++
17:00 mtompset Oooo.... so every bug that affects C4/ or whatever?
17:00 oleonard Yes, if there's a patch in Bugzilla which touches it
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18:18 oleonard I see I missed a lot while I was out.
18:29 * oleonard ducks into #CoolKoha to see if that's where everyone is
18:30 ashimema Splitter has a bug.. joubu was hunting for it a week or two ago.. we think it's encoding related.. or ipv6 requests or something that kills it
18:30 * oleonard is booted right out
18:30 ashimema If you have access to an ipv6 connection I'm sure joubu would appreciate the help narrowing it down.. once the bug is fixed I think it's fairly low maintanence
18:31 ashimema There's a #CoolKoha
18:31 * ashimema is uncool
18:31 oleonard Thanks ashimema
18:32 ashimema Been a busy few weeks.. else it would probably be a bit higher up some of our lists.. hehe
18:32 ashimema Always a good idea to help fund this stuff though.. it sits on the second server as bugzilla.. which I think is also a donated system
19:08 magnuse patreon for supporting rangi who pays for some of those servers:
19:10 oleonard Thanks magnuse I didn't know about that
19:14 magnuse my pleasure!
19:18 tcohen back
19:23 * oleonard is grumpy that Bug 7703 still exists
19:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7703 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Don't block bulk hold action on search results if some items can't be placed on hold
19:33 CrispyBran bug 17140
19:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17140 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Incorrect rounding in total fines calculations, part 2
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19:44 rangi ashimema: yep its this
19:44 rangi Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/share/perl5/HTTP/Server/ line 422.
19:44 rangi Bad arg length for Socket::sockaddr_family, length is 0, should be at least 2 at /usr/share/perl5/HTTP/Server/ line 4
19:44 rangi oleonard: basically that bug needs to be fixed
19:44 rangi it crashes it quite reliably
19:45 rangi its back up (for now)
19:45 oleonard Thanks rangi
19:45 oleonard rangi++
19:47 oleonard mtompset: Check out while it's up and running
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19:49 KotH a wonderful good evening everyone!
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19:50 KotH just stopping by to say thank you to everyone who works or worked on koha! it's by far the lowest maintenance web based software i've ever used... and the updates all work just like a breeze!
19:51 KotH thanks a lot!
19:51 * KotH bows
19:51 rangi :)
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19:52 CrispyBran rangi++
19:59 oleonard Bye all, see you tomorrow
20:00 * kidclamp waves
20:09 * CrispyBran waves back
21:13 ashimema Thanks for the pointer rangi. 😀
21:13 ashimema Will try to find a moment to look some time soon
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