IRC log for #koha, 2018-10-23

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05:36 fridolin hihi
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05:41 dcook Argh stuck in a database upgrade loop. I've had this happen before...
05:41 dcook Me thinks perhaps a caching issue...
05:42 calire hi dcook
05:42 dcook Hmm needed to restart Plack
05:42 dcook heya calire :)
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06:41 * magnuse waves
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06:47 alex_a bonjour
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06:54 reiveune hello
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06:59 dcook Adios folks
06:59 dcook Off to Chinese class ^_^
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08:37 * andreashm waves
08:49 cait acq--
08:56 * andreashm gives cait cookies
08:56 cait thx :)
08:56 cait tax calculation is mean
08:57 cait and bug 21282
08:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21282 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Ordered/spent lists should use prices including tax for calculations
08:57 * andreashm forgot to get candy for cait when in LuleÃ¥. Sorry about that!
09:00 cait no problem - i forgot the candy too :)
09:06 magnuse oops, has some problems with HTTPS. all internal links are https, but https does not work
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10:08 kohaputti The HTTP git protocol seems to be down again for Git protocol works so it's fine
10:23 calire does anyone know what the rest api url is for kohadevbox?
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10:31 kohaputti calire, /api/v1/
10:33 calire thanks kohaputti
10:34 kohaputti and /api/v1/doc should give you documentation
10:34 kohaputti for me it didn't work, though. I mean it loaded the page but it was broken
10:36 calire I'm trying on devbox but I just get not found at the moment
10:38 calire matts++
10:38 calire for infinte patience
10:42 skimsk hi all! could anyone help me to automate my koha-backups. I have bash-script that works fine from command line, but when ran from cron it returns this error: "/usr/sbin/koha-run-backups: 58: /usr/sbin/koha-run-backups: koha-list: not found" what to do to fix this?
10:43 skimsk in my script "/usr/sbin/koha-run-backups LIBRARYNAME" is the command that produces the error.
10:54 kohaputti calire, I tested on the intranet domain, try it if you are using opac doman
10:55 kohaputti but I would assume it is also enabled for opac
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11:40 calire kohaputti I have tried with both and got the same result
11:42 kohaputti calire, hmm, I'm actually using plack and I don't think it was enabled out of the box for devbox, try enabling it?
11:42 calire enabling plack?
11:42 kohaputti calire, maybe the koha error logs tell you what is the problem
11:42 kohaputti calire, yes
11:42 calire plack is running
11:57 fridolin ashimema: around ?
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11:57 ashimema Hi
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12:31 * andreashm waves
12:35 kidclamp hi ashimema
12:35 kidclamp I worry about 9775
12:35 kidclamp bug 9775
12:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9775 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , unitprice should be hidden when creating an order
12:36 ere hi andreashm
12:36 kidclamp hi ere
12:36 ere hi kidclamp
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13:11 caroline good morning!
13:23 caroline Can I ask about the philosophy/history of the item statuses in Koha? Why are withdrawn, lost, damaged and not for loan statuses separated?
13:29 ashimema sorry kidclamp
13:29 Joubu caroline: because an item can be damaged and lost? Also I guess it's to map each of them to an authorised value category, and a MARC field
13:29 ashimema what's the apology about?
13:29 ashimema :confused:
13:30 * ashimema totally misread.. 'worry' vs 'sorry'
13:30 ashimema my bad
13:30 caroline Joubu: if it's lost, what does it matter that it's damaged?
13:30 caroline And some other combinations don't make sense. Withdrawn 1; Not for loan 0 means that its withdrawn, but also avilable
13:31 caroline Or lost 1 and withdraw 1 ??
13:35 nuentoter morning all
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13:40 nuentoter caroline: in our library we have a book and dvd repair area, if a dvd is scratched we will mark it as damaged but available. meaning it is still available to borrow just give us 5 minutes if you want it right now. same with damaged books, we have, it and it's available, just give us a bit of time.
13:44 caroline nuentoter: I understand, bug 13658 kind of illustrates this problem
13:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13658 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Show 'damaged' items as available in OPAC XSLT result list
13:45 caroline so you can circulate damaged items, good for you, but would you circulate lost or withdrawn items? It makes 0 sense to me
13:49 eythian I betcha that some library somewhere does/can
13:49 eythian @get quote 123
13:49 huginn eythian: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
13:49 eythian @quote get 123
13:49 huginn eythian: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
13:49 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
13:50 caroline eythian: lol!
13:51 caroline It's probably because of that 1 library that Koha is like that
13:58 Joubu eythian: did you see the funny "fixme" wahanui's bug last week?
13:58 Joubu eythian:[…]8-10-12#i_2082505 # quits have not been logged, but there are the joins
14:06 Joubu ashimema: bug 21610, ok but then you should suggest something :)
14:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21610 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Koha::Object->store needs to handle incorrect values
14:19 Joubu - she is very bad at fixing bugs...
14:20 caroline Joubu: <3 she looks so blasé!
14:20 eythian Joubu: haha
14:20 eythian ah, I guess search is broken, because I think that's an infobot command
14:20 eythian wahanui: search for foo
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14:23 ashimema Mmm, I don't know the answer I'm afraid Joubu.
14:25 ashimema I'll try and have another think about it this evening
14:27 Joubu ashimema: basically the problem is: we do not want to insert "" or invalid date to attribute that must be date or integer. We 0, "", undef must be taken into account. And also default value defined at DB level.
14:27 Joubu it's either we do the test when creating the object, controller-side, which will be very hard to write and maintain (and buggy). We will need to be exhaustive
14:28 Joubu or... on storing, what I am doing, and what we actually doing already for some objects
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14:38 * cait waves
14:50 cait @wunder Karlsruhe
14:50 huginn cait: Karlsruhe, Germany :: Rain :: 50F/10C | Tuesday: Windy with light rain early. Lows overnight in the mid 40s. Tuesday Night: Cloudy and windy. Periods of light rain early. Low around 45F. Winds WNW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
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15:34 dersmon hi!
15:34 dersmon when configuring postfix for email, is koha able to use different emails as specified in the user patron configuration?
15:35 cait ?
15:35 cait koha will send the email to the address you want - there is a preference to set which one to use
15:35 dersmon i think i could configure that in postfix, but is koha able to use different accounts? or is every email supposed to be sent from koha using the same email address?
15:35 dersmon ah ok
15:35 cait it has a setting 'first vlaid' too
15:35 cait 'first valid'
15:36 cait and as the sender it mostly uses the email from the library
15:36 cait in some cases the kohaadminemailaddress from the preferences
15:38 dersmon ah ok the library's address
15:38 dersmon thx
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16:09 caroline In Tools > Stage MARC records for import > Look for existing records in catalog? > Action if no match is found, there is an option that says "Ignore incoming records (its items may still be processed). Is the items part a typo? If you have no matching record in your catalog and ignore the incoming record, where would the items go?
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16:13 caroline There's another similar option in "How to process items": Add items only if no matching bib was found
16:23 CrispyBran @seen oleonard
16:23 huginn CrispyBran: oleonard was last seen in #koha 1 day, 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <oleonard> Okay thanks, it's working now
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16:28 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:28 mtompset @seen CrispyBran
16:28 huginn mtompset: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 5 minutes and 24 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> @seen oleonard
16:29 mtompset You still around, CrispyBran?
16:50 Joubu caroline: that sounds wrong instead, did you try?
16:52 caroline Joubu: No, I wanted to know if there was code at the back of this to support what is written. But I can try it (not now, eventually)
16:53 caroline There's also a third discrepancy in the items section. You can choose to process items (yes or no radio buttons), but you can also choose to "ignore items" in the drop down...
16:53 corilynn mtompset, did you see my notes on bug 17650? I'd be happy to attempt a signoff if you make some test steps
16:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17650 new feature, P5 - low, ---, rsantellan, Needs Signoff , Create the option to save the cover with the uploaded files.
16:53 caroline I'll try it and write a bug report to redo this page, sometime in the near future
16:54 caroline I'm revising my training materials, so I'm finding things that don't make sense...
16:56 Joubu caroline: reading the code the items are attached to... an existing record, so I am expecting this option to explode
16:57 Joubu but I guess I am missing something, the code is not clear enough :)
16:58 mtompset caroline, not my bug... just my rescue.
16:58 corilynn you mean, corilynn :)
16:59 Joubu I am not sure I am reading the right part of the code anyway...
16:59 mtompset Oops... car cor... what are vowels? DOH!
16:59 corilynn but do you know what this even does, mtompset?
17:03 mtompset "Save the covers on the the hard disk instead of the database."
17:03 mtompset I'm assuming you can save local covers in the DB.
17:03 mtompset This lets you put the covers on the koha server file system.
17:04 corilynn mm k
17:04 mtompset That's my guess.
17:04 mtompset But ... Actually, now that I read the code more... need to Fail QA it.
17:04 mtompset doesn't use tmp_path from the koha-conf xml file.
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17:15 arsl hi
17:15 arsl anybody here to help me regarding koha sip2 issue?
17:16 arsl ??
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17:32 arsl hi
17:32 wahanui privet, arsl
17:32 arsl ok
17:36 arsl hi anyone there?
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17:43 corilynn arsl, I'm here, but know nothing about sip2. If you want to bounce ideas...
17:43 Joubu what's your issue?
17:43 arsl its ok
17:44 arsl its connected but not login at all
17:44 arsl all configurations are correct
17:46 Joubu if it does not connect I guess the configuration is not correct ;)
17:46 Joubu how did you configure it?
17:46 Joubu did you read the wiki page - https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]SIP2_server_setup ?
17:48 cait there is also a sip chapter in the manual i think
17:48 cait I tihn one of the more often mistakes is to forget to give circulation permission to the self check user
17:49 cait not self check, but circulate
17:49 cait[…]otocols.html#sip2
17:50 cait arsl ^
17:50 arsl All configs are correct
17:51 arsl yes i have read this page
17:51 arsl i have given a permission to user (super librarian)
17:51 cait no not superlibrarian
17:52 cait circulate
17:52 arsl circulate only?
17:52 cait yes
17:52 arsl ok let me try..give me a minute
17:52 cait you also should not give more permissions than necessary
17:56 arsl i tried but no luck
17:56 arsl i have only given a permissions circulate
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19:35 kidclamp what's the error arsl?
19:35 kidclamp hmm...slightly delayed on my part i sippose
19:36 cait1 a little :) go push stuff! ;)
19:37 ashimema Lol
19:38 * cait1 sends cookies
19:38 * ashimema will get back on the push wagon tomorrow now the release is out. 😀
19:38 cait1 ... and someone tell me to writ eslides (again) please
19:38 * ashimema now expects kidclamp to see that as a challenge and fill my queue
19:39 kidclamp doing my best ashimema - i never want you to get bored
19:40 ashimema Hehe.. your awesome kidclamp , feels like there's been great throughout this cycle to me
19:40 ashimema And cait1 .. go write some slides!
19:40 cait1 grrr.
19:40 * ashimema sends cait1 cookies
19:41 tcohen kidclamp++
19:41 ashimema kidclamp++
19:42 kidclamp ashimema++
19:42 kidclamp tcohen++
19:42 kidclamp Joubu++
19:42 kidclamp koha++
19:43 kidclamp karmafest!
19:43 caroline kidclamp is making it rain!
19:43 * cait1 shares the cookies
19:43 ashimema koha++
19:43 ashimema @karma
19:43 huginn ashimema: Highest karma: "Joubu" (700), "cait" (627), and "tcohen" (376).  Lowest karma: "failed" (-38), "ie" (-38), and "-" (-37).  You (ashimema) are ranked 8 out of 872.
19:43 kidclamp caroline++
19:43 kidclamp @karma
19:43 huginn kidclamp: Highest karma: "Joubu" (700), "cait" (627), and "tcohen" (376).  Lowest karma: "failed" (-38), "ie" (-38), and "-" (-37).  You (kidclamp) are ranked 9 out of 872.
19:43 kidclamp breathing down your neck :-)
19:43 ashimema 8.. that's not bad 😀
19:43 ashimema Hehe..
19:44 andreashm wow. I go off to get a sandwich, and when I get back there is karmafest in here.
19:44 ashimema @karma kidclamp
19:44 huginn ashimema: Karma for "kidclamp" has been increased 219 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 219.
19:44 ashimema @karma ashimema
19:44 huginn ashimema: Karma for "ashimema" has been increased 229 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 229.
19:44 * ashimema only learnt that we have two karma bots here a few days ago..
19:45 ashimema Haha, not far to go kidclamp++
19:46 cait1 @karma cait
19:46 huginn cait1: Karma for "cait" has been increased 627 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 627.
19:46 kidclamp @karma wnickc
19:46 huginn kidclamp: Karma for "wnickc" has been increased 24 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 24.
19:46 kidclamp add in those 24 and I got you ashimema
19:46 kidclamp :-b
19:46 ashimema Ooh.. deffo
19:46 rangi morning
19:47 andreashm @karma andreashm
19:47 huginn andreashm: Karma for "andreashm" has been increased 14 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 14.
19:47 ashimema Haha, you should never change your nick 😉
19:47 kidclamp andreashm++
19:47 andreashm ha
19:47 ashimema Hey rangi
19:47 caroline hi rangi! Welcome to the karma wars
19:47 andreashm =)
19:47 rangi heh
19:47 kidclamp rangi++
19:47 rangi dont make me reset them again
19:47 * kidclamp stops
19:47 rangi :)
19:48 rangi i think about 2015 was the last reset
19:48 * andreashm offers everyone some Julmust
19:48 ashimema Random question for you rangi ... Dredging the memory.. any idea who sushi was back in the day..
19:48 andreashm
19:48 * ashimema has been deep diving the git logs for fun today
19:48 rangi andreashm: that sounds yum!
19:48 rangi ashimema: hmm trying to remember
19:48 andreashm rangi: it is. I love it. But kinda weird.
19:49 caroline "[...] and his father Robert Roberts [...]"
19:49 caroline reminds me of Humbert Humbert (not a good association)
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19:50 cait1 what did he/she do?
19:50 cait1 might help to narrow down
19:50 ashimema Lots back in the day..
19:50 rangi ahhh
19:50 * ashimema should dig out the laptop again.. twas this morning I spotted it
19:50 rangi of course
19:51 rangi its mtj
19:51 rangi when we were working at katipo, cvs days, pre git
19:51 ashimema Oh, cool... Thought it might be someone like that
19:52 cait1 heh
19:52 cait1 sounds like him :)
19:52 ashimema Yeah.. the early stuff is fun to read.. hehe
19:52 * CrispyBran waves
19:52 ashimema I was looking at automating a bit more to the history.txt generation and developers and sponsored lists as part of the release-tools
19:53 * CrispyBran knows that the most important word in the english language is reboot.
19:53 ashimema Random lunchtime project
19:53 rangi :)
19:54 andreashm rangi: do you have ikea in nz?
19:54 rangi nope
19:54 andreashm dang.
19:55 rangi much to wifes eternal dissapointment
19:55 andreashm haha
19:55 andreashm that's one place to find Julmust outside of Sweden. Though they call it Vintersaga - Swedish festive drink
19:56 andreashm[…]ink-art-00426277/
19:56 rangi ahhh i coulda got some in portland if I knew! :)
19:56 andreashm it's usually only available around christmas
19:56 rangi they have them in australia and i have to go there next month, so maybe i can find it then
19:56 andreashm outsells coca-cola in december
19:57 caroline andreashm: is it fizzy?
19:57 ashimema looks tasty
19:57 andreashm caroline: yup
19:57 andreashm ashimema: it is. there's plenty of uk stores! =)
19:58 ashimema indeed.. will have to pick some up
19:58 andreashm thumbs up
19:59 * ashimema just found the hint he missed earlier regarding sushi.. there's another commit with more info.. email being mason.loves.sushi@gmail
19:59 ashimema gege
20:03 * cbrannon[A] is now away - Reason : Lunch
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20:27 kidclamp later all
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21:19 * Francesca waves
21:44 * CrispyBran is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 41 minutes 11 seconds
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22:03 caroline bye #koha!
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23:50 CrispyBran @seen tcohen
23:50 huginn CrispyBran: tcohen was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 9 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <tcohen> kidclamp++
23:51 CrispyBran @seen JesseM
23:51 huginn CrispyBran: JesseM was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 45 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <JesseM> Cool
23:51 CrispyBran @seen barton
23:51 huginn CrispyBran: barton was last seen in #koha 5 days, 9 hours, 32 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <barton> no worries, just asking :-)
23:52 CrispyBran @seen rangi
23:52 huginn CrispyBran: rangi was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 55 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <rangi> they have them in australia and i have to go there next month, so maybe i can find it then
23:52 kidclamp ah, that was a drive by fruiting - pinged by tcohen :-)
23:52 CrispyBran ??? What are you still doing around?
23:53 kidclamp making tomorrow easier :-)
23:53 CrispyBran :)
23:54 CrispyBran I've had no luck with the rebasing thing you told me about.  I must be doing it wrong.
23:55 CrispyBran maybe my devbox lost its connection
23:56 CrispyBran fatal: Needed a single revision
23:56 kidclamp what exactly are you trying to do?
23:56 kidclamp which commit are you trying to remove?
23:58 CrispyBran trying to set koha back before patch 19469 was applied to see if it is affecting my patch somehow.

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