IRC log for #koha, 2018-09-25

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00:15 mtompset CrispyBran you left. :(
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01:01 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
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02:48 wizzyrea oh
02:48 wizzyrea sorry CrispyBran
02:48 wizzyrea aaand now you're gone
02:48 wizzyrea @later tell CrispyBran just later me with whatever you need ;) I think I know what it is.
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05:43 cait someone else problems with being logged out of Koha all the time?
05:43 cait especially when switching between opac and staff
05:43 cait devbox
05:44 cait actually yes, every time i switch from opac to intranet i get logged out (localhost:8080 and localhost:8081)
05:47 calire I don't seem to have that issue
05:49 ashimema Mornin' #koha
05:50 calire hi ashimema
05:51 cait ah i accidentally gave myself the web check permission
05:51 cait that was doing it
06:21 magnuse \o/
06:27 cait ok... time to stop
06:27 cait bbiab
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06:43 * dcook waves to to the Europeans
06:47 josef_moravec hi dcook, long night? ;)
06:48 dcook heh. Short night but long previous day!
06:48 dcook josef_moravec: thanks for looking at 10662. I'll look at addressing those issues as soon as I can. Still catching up on my emails.
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06:49 alex_a bonjour
06:49 josef_moravec hi alex_a
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06:53 josef_moravec dcook: ;)
06:54 josef_moravec dcook: I am looking forward to your follow-up patches
06:55 calire hi dcook
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07:02 dcook hey calire :)
07:03 josef_moravec hi calire
07:03 calire hi josef_moravec
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07:06 cait morning #koha
07:06 josef_moravec morning cait
07:06 sameee good day cait
07:07 ashimema dcook :)
07:07 cait :)
07:08 josef_moravec cait++
07:10 dcook morning/afternoon cait
07:10 dcook hey ashimema, missed you at kohacon
07:10 ashimema :'(
07:10 ashimema I missed you all too
07:11 dcook Next time!
07:13 ashimema certainly..
07:13 ashimema you voted yet?
07:13 dcook Nope although I don't think I'll make the next one :/
07:14 ashimema :(
07:14 ashimema too far?
07:14 dcook More so where it falls in the tax year for us I think
07:14 dcook It's the same tax year as this last trip so I don't think I'll be able to
07:15 ashimema fair enough
07:15 dcook Although admittedly after my delayed 15 hour flight yesterday/last night/today... I don't want to think about flying for a little while heh
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07:18 fridolin hi there
07:18 dcook hey fridolin :)
07:18 josef_moravec hi fridolin
07:20 calire hi fridolin
07:21 fridolin hi dcook and josef_moravec calire and +
07:21 * fridolin needs coffee
07:22 ashimema nice work getting through that mamoth backlog for release yesterday fridolin.. just kinda dawned on me last night when i went through my mail queue of bugs
07:22 ashimema huge effory :)
07:22 ashimema s/y/t/
07:23 fridolin ashimema: thanks :) , you did the more important by maintaing stable
07:23 fridolin i hope oldstable 17.11 will be stable for some more month
07:23 ashimema sorry for creating that particular pain.. ;)
07:23 fridolin ashimema:  btw we need to think about roles for 19.05 no ?
07:23 ashimema i reckon 17.11 is a great solid release
07:24 fridolin i was late mostly because of my vacantions
07:24 cait i hope so, we update now :)
07:24 ashimema hehe, indeed
07:25 ashimema I was asking kidclamp about his intentinos for 19.05.. think he's keen to stay on as rm
07:25 calire 19.05 sounds so futuristic
07:25 ashimema though I don't know how much he's discussed it with the powers that be
07:25 * cait agrees with calire
07:26 cait anyway... qa backlog first
07:26 cait who is going to work on that today? :)
07:26 josef_moravec we're on 17.11 now and have to say it is very well stable ;)
07:26 ashimema I need to talk to the boss man.. see what I can put myself up for.. but hopefully I can continue somewhere
07:26 josef_moravec cait: I am going to do some qa today
07:26 cait josef_moravec++
07:26 cait there are quite a few I signed off or wrote...
07:26 ashimema you hopeing to continue an any capacity fridolin?
07:27 cait especially the signed off ones have been stuck for a while
07:27 fridolin ashimema: I am indeed, but maybe not on Rmain 18.11
07:27 cait bug 20044
07:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging
07:27 ashimema hehe.. you reckon that could be a big one..
07:27 ashimema I do ;)
07:28 cait bug 17674
07:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Signed Off , Allow UI to delete serials issues in batch
07:28 cait those 2 especially
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07:29 cait morning paul_p
07:29 josef_moravec cait: ok, I'll take 20044
07:29 ashimema I think I'll have an SO, QA day today too
07:29 paul_p hello cait !
07:30 cait thx!
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07:38 magnuse bonjour paul_p
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07:53 paul_p hi magnuse.
07:54 paul_p magnuse I hope that petter is safely back home/to work ! it was nice seing him, even if I had only a few contacts with him (not enough...)
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08:26 magnuse @later tell paul_p yes, petter is home and at work, thanks!
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08:30 cait josef_moravec++ :)
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09:12 * andreashm waves
09:16 josef_moravec cait: working on 17674 ;)
09:17 cait bug 17674
09:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Signed Off , Allow UI to delete serials issues in batch
09:17 cait ah, hope not another fail ;)
09:17 cait but if it has to, that is how it is
09:17 josef_moravec cait: don't know yet
09:17 josef_moravec trying to get on with these patches first ;)
09:43 * kidclamp waves
09:43 calire hi kidclamp
09:46 kidclamp morning calire
09:48 josef_moravec hi kidclamp
09:50 kidclamp hi josef_moravec
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09:59 josef_moravec cait: hm, deleting with items does not work for me on bug 17674 :(
09:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Signed Off , Allow UI to delete serials issues in batch
10:19 m23 I want to say sorry for default contact name and email at my "sgned off". I was problem in my devboxed. I hope that now issue is fixed. Sorry about that. Mike
10:20 ashimema no worries Mike
10:20 ashimema we've all been there ;)
10:20 ashimema thanks for you're work signing stuff off.. everything helps 🙂 m23
10:21 * ashimema aka Martin Renvoize
10:23 m23 I'm new in testing, but with help of Josef study this topic ... I like testing :-)
10:23 josef_moravec m23++
10:23 ashimema :)
10:24 ashimema we can always do with more testers :)
10:25 m23 more stripes, more Adidas :-)
10:28 josef_moravec kidclamp++ new Koha is coming...
10:33 kidclamp @later tell oleonard - bug 21047 please?
10:33 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
10:33 kidclamp @later tell oleonard - bug 21407 please?
10:33 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
10:41 ashimema any koha::object fans here?
10:41 ashimema what's the Koha::Object equivilent to discard_changes (i.e. how do i force a refetch from the database)
10:43 ashimema kidclamp?
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10:44 ashimema `get_from_storage`
10:44 ashimema mwah
10:44 ashimema possibly
10:47 kidclamp yeah, not sure ashimema
10:48 kidclamp why would you need to do that? wouldn't you just be fetching it again? so another search?
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10:51 ashimema why perform another search/find needlessly?
10:51 cait lunch break... inbox full again *sigh*
10:51 cait josef_moravec: hm did you check the checkbox?
10:51 ashimema I used to use it fairly often in dbic
10:51 ashimema common odiom
10:51 ashimema idiom.. even
10:52 cait josef_moravec: i seem to remember it asks if it should
10:52 ashimema anywho.. seems get_from_storage is in fact broken for Koha::Acquisition::Order
10:53 ashimema I don't understand well enough how Koha::Objects get created to track that bug back though
10:53 ashimema is khall around today?
10:53 kidclamp shoudl eb now
10:53 kidclamp tyiping--
10:53 * ashimema goes on slack to grab him :)
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10:58 josef_moravec cait: yes, I check it, the problem is here: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]77866&action=diff
10:59 cait maybe it broke in between :(
10:59 josef_moravec cait: the get_serial_items_count have different return value structure than the original one
10:59 cait i hope they will fix it
10:59 cait this already missed one release and i'd like to have it
11:00 cait it's good for libraries binding issues
11:00 cait or if you only keep the last year
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11:18 ashimema @later tell mtompset bug 21385 is finally ready for testing :)
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11:32 oleonard Hey
11:35 magnuse kia ora oleonard
11:37 ashimema josef_moravec++ #QAing bug 17282
11:37 ashimema our customers will love that one
11:38 josef_moravec hi oleonard
11:38 josef_moravec ashimema: thank, i like it too ;)
11:39 ashimema much more extensible than my proof of concept too :)
11:40 josef_moravec ashimema: and I hope we all will extend it ;)
11:40 ashimema :)
11:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17282 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Passed QA , Ability to create charts for SQL reports
11:48 calire hi oleonard
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13:07 oleonard kidclamp: GMail suggests it translate your 'Koha 18.11 Dates' email from Albanian into English.
13:07 kidclamp i know my typing is bad, but cmon gmail
13:08 oleonard its suggested translation of your closing line is "Let me know IF there is any feedback or a Need to Adjust the date."
13:08 ashimema lol
13:13 andreashm haha
13:14 * kidclamp shrugs
13:15 kidclamp anyways, fix my bug oleonard!
13:15 * oleonard fixes the bug in kidclamp's Albanian/English translation matrix
13:16 * kidclamp muppets arms around the house
13:17 * oleonard imagines some ceiling fans didn't survive that operation
13:17 oleonard Does Vermont have ceiling fans?!
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13:22 kidclamp we have one, but it is a to of stairwell, so I can't reach it
13:23 oleonard Punishment for your tall-person hubris
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13:31 Margaret Hello #koha.
13:33 tuxayo hi Margaret o/
13:34 caroline anyone has some sun they wouldn't mind sending my way? This grey weather is depressing
13:36 calire hi Margaret
13:36 * cait sends some to caroline
13:42 caroline thx cait! :)
13:43 Margaret hi tuxayo and calire!
13:48 tuxayo to  kidclamp cait ashimema and anyone deploying Koha in many libraries:
13:48 tuxayo Out of curiosity, are your requirements about browser versions compatible with these?
13:50 caroline tuxayo: we ask our libraries to install chrome on all user computers
13:50 caroline used to be firefox, but there was a problem with the receipt printers
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13:53 tuxayo caroline: interesting: what kind of issues did you had?
13:54 oleonard caroline: I usually hear the opposite: Requiring Firefox because of the js-print addon for receipt printers.
13:54 caroline I don't remember exactly, let me check in past tickets
14:00 caroline The ticket wasn't aligned on the paper and/or was printing as if on a 8 1/2 x 11 page, Firefox wasn't taking into account the specificities of the receipt printer (had to change manually for every print), but Chrome did automatically
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14:00 caroline It started after a Firefox upgrade, might be resolved now
14:02 Guest1239 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #66: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/66/
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14:11 cait usually firefox, but actually more like use anything bug IE
14:14 Guest1239 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #67: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/67/
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14:16 marcelr hi #koha
14:16 marcelr caroline here
14:16 marcelr ?
14:16 caroline hi!
14:16 marcelr hi caroline
14:16 marcelr i got no response from the voting server?
14:16 caroline ah, let me check
14:17 marcelr caroline: o no just in spam ;)
14:17 caroline ok!
14:17 marcelr :)
14:18 marcelr now calculating this sum ;)
14:20 caroline It reminds me that a lot of ppl registered but didn't vote
14:21 marcelr if there are two candidates and i ranked one, i still need to rank the second funny
14:21 caroline yes, it was one of the rules, that we had to rank all candidates (even with just two)
14:21 marcelr np
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14:33 tuxayo thanks for the info, hopefully this is solved :)
14:33 tuxayo hi marcelr o/
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15:27 cmo_ what are the reasons i might be unable to search my catalog? my zebrasrv and sqld are running and i can search the db via item search in admin interface
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15:30 caroline cmo_: did you build your indexes? ./misc/migration_tools/ -b -a -v -r
15:31 cmo_ i did
15:31 cmo_ well i ran that, i see i have a running right now
15:32 cmo_ i didn't try running it from path..
15:32 caroline cmo_: "right now" means that it's still running, or that it's in a cron?
15:33 cmo_ i guess it's a cron, it's been running for over an hour though
15:33 reiveune bye
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15:33 cmo_ i ran the zebra from my path
15:33 cmo_ i don't know if that makes a difference
15:34 caroline i don't know either
15:34 cmo_ well... let's try this
15:34 caroline It was actually my only hypothesis because usually if item search works but not regular search, it means the records are not indexed
15:36 cmo_ that makes sense to me, i just am not sure why i can't seem to get them indexed
15:39 cmo_ oh i'm missing a perl thing
15:40 cmo_ i was using the debian koha-rebuild-zebra script before
15:40 cmo_ i'm running it again now to compare... let's see
15:40 cmo_ it's on reindexing
15:41 cmo_ hmm then it goes to cleaning and then finishes
15:42 * caroline crosses fingers
15:43 cmo_ nope, my math library catalog contains no books with 'calculus'
15:43 cmo_ and my biblios/key directory is empty, which seems wrong
15:43 caroline :(
15:44 cmo_ my error on running perl migration_tools/ is "can't locate C4/ in @INC"
15:44 cmo_ hrm
15:45 oleonard cmo_: How did you install Koha? If you did a package installation there are shortcut commands for reindexing
15:45 cmo_ yeah, as just mentioned above i've run the debian zebra script several times
15:45 cmo_ it finishes cleanly but it gives no output during the reindexing stage
15:46 cmo_ and i still can't search catalog
15:46 magnuse cmo_: how exactly did you run it?
15:46 cmo_ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v my_library
15:46 magnuse looks good
15:46 cmo_ yeah, which is why i'm a bit at a loss
15:48 cmo_ i have a process rebuild_zebra.p (not .pl) that i notice respawns itself whenever i kill it
15:48 magnuse and you have zebra running?
15:49 magnuse sudo koha-zebra --status my_library
15:49 cmo_ zebrasrv is up.. my koha-conf.xml has koha_my_library and some password for it, tho not sure where the pw came from
15:49 cmo_ Zebra running for mathlibrary:.
15:49 cmo_ rm
15:49 cmo_ hrm
15:50 cmo_ what does . mean
15:50 magnuse where?
15:50 cmo_ that's the output of koha-zebra --status my_library
15:50 cmo_ Zebra running for mathlibrary:.
15:51 magnuse i get that too
15:51 cmo_ ok, so that's fine then
15:51 magnuse yup
15:51 cmo_ hm :(
15:51 cmo_ do you have this rebuild_zebra.p too?
15:51 magnuse never seen that, sounds weird
15:51 cmo_ is something trying to schedule and missing the l lol
15:52 magnuse cound you paste the complete output of "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v my_library"?
15:52 magnuse paste?
15:52 cmo_ sure hang on
15:52 magnuse at
15:52 magnuse preferably not here :-)
15:55 cmo_ oh i was gonna pastebin
15:55 cmo_ but sure that's fine
15:57 pastebot "cmo_" at pasted "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v mathlibrary" (1 line) at
15:58 cmo_ erm
15:58 cmo_ i guess i did it wrong
15:58 pastebot "cmo_" at pasted "mathlibrary" (1 line) at
15:59 cmo_ i'm just going to pastebin, i dunno why this is only 1 line
15:59 cmo_
16:03 magnuse yeah, calling that way will not work. "$ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v mathlibrary" should work, though
16:04 cmo_ hmm, i included it in case the error was useful
16:04 cmo_ anything weird in the output?
16:05 magnuse no, looks good
16:05 cmo_ hm :(
16:05 magnuse could perhaps be some old indexing process hanging around blocking things, but then the last command should complain about not getting a lock on the lockfiles
16:06 magnuse can you restart the server and see if that helps?
16:06 cmo_ i can try again, tho i've done it a lot already
16:09 cmo_ no difference
16:11 cmo_ that rebuild_zebra.p is being started with the command PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND 4212 ?        S      0:00 daemon --name=mathlibrary-koha-indexer --errlog=/var/log/koha/mat​hlibrary/indexer-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/mathlibrary/indexer.log --output=/v[0/0]g/koha/math​library/indexer-output.log --pidfiles=/var/run/koha/mathlibrary/ --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30
16:11 cmo_ --user=mathlibrary-koha.mathlibrary-koha -- /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ -daemon -sleep 5
16:11 cmo_ i don't really understand why it becomes rebuild_zebra.p...
16:12 cmo_ good time to check the logs tho i guess
16:13 cmo_ ok, it can't connect to mysqld.sock
16:13 cmo_ because the socket doesn't exist
16:14 cmo_ it does exist tho :(
16:14 cmo_ maybe this error is old
16:14 cmo_ i did have to restart my mariadb earlier
16:14 cmo_ there's no timestamp
16:15 cmo_ despite the weird name tho, it's apparently running
16:18 cmo_ the thing is that i actually dumped and restored the database to fix this problem
16:19 cmo_ i had to build a perl dependency for arm and i reinstalled koha and migrated the db
16:19 cmo_ i figured the perl dep was the problem
16:19 cmo_ now idgi...
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16:21 cmo_ i notice my koha-conf.xml has <user>kohauser</user> and a diff pw instead of <user>koha_mylibrary</user>
16:21 cmo_ maybe this will fix?
16:26 cmo_ no difference at all.... i'm so confused
16:26 cmo_ if it didn't fix it i thought it would at least break it
16:33 magnuse there are different passwords in koha-conf.xml
16:33 magnuse some are for zebra, i never understood how they work
16:34 magnuse the one down in the <config> section is for mysql/mariadb
16:34 magnuse if you change that and things still work it sounds a bit iffy
16:34 magnuse do you have more than one instance?
16:35 cait can someone jog my brain?
16:35 cait could i build a zebra index only on ab and without c?
16:36 magnuse cmo_: what is the output of "ps aux | grep zebra" and "ps aux | grep index"?
16:36 magnuse cait: a = auth, b = biblio, c = ?
16:41 cmo_ magnuse:
16:41 cmo_ i didn't change the one for mysql, but i changed the ones for zebra to match the sql one
16:41 cmo_ sounded like a dumb idea but i thought maybe i'd at least get a useful error out of it
16:41 magnuse ah, ok
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16:43 cmo_ and i have only one instance right now
16:44 cmo_ i guess i'll restore from backup tho
16:44 cmo_ should they really be 'kohauser' though, that seems wrong
16:45 cmo_ i have no system user kohauser, maybe zebradb has its own users...
16:46 magnuse this line looks a bit odd:
16:46 magnuse mathlib+ 13266  0.2 10.3 141268 98636 ?        S    10:47   0:08 /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ -daemon -sleep 5
16:47 magnuse nah, never mind, i have that too
16:47 cmo_ hrm
16:47 magnuse i'm out of ideas, i'm afraid, and i gotta run
16:47 cmo_ alright, thanks for your help
16:53 cait magnuse: subfields
16:54 cait i forgot to say 245ab
16:58 cait from the unimarc files i think it should be possible :)
16:58 cait 294   <!--200$fg-->
16:58 cait 295   <index_subfields tag="200" subfields="fg">
16:58 ashimema Yup, you can cait
16:59 cait nice :)
16:59 cait we get a lot of complaints about the title index containing c = author
16:59 ashimema Can't remember how off the top of my head, but I know you can
16:59 cait and title-cover is only a
16:59 cait so i need something in between
16:59 cait abnp is what i am htinking
16:59 ashimema Hehe
16:59 ashimema Good plan
17:00 cait but now i got to remember all the steps :)
17:00 cait do i need to copy the finished files somewhere on a kohadev setup? or does it use the right ones?
17:00 cait i think i did my last new index ona plain git installation
17:01 ashimema Ooh, now that is a fun question
17:01 ashimema But I need to go cook dinner
17:02 cait lol
17:02 cait ok :)
17:02 ashimema Good luck, shout later if your stuck and want someone to bounce ideas off
17:02 cait hopefully home later
17:02 cait it's already awfully late, but thx :)
17:02 cait i'll give it one try... if ti works good, if not, it won't be in the update :P
17:04 cmo_ still super confused about my catalog search :(
17:05 cait and how should i name the index hm
17:27 cait tcohen: around?
17:40 cait hopefully you have to copy them... because that's my last hope
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17:41 cait yay
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17:55 cmo_ i ran... zebraidx -c path/to/my/library/biblio/zebra.cfg check quick and it reports the right number of records even...
17:55 cmo_ how can it be that i cannot search
17:55 cmo_ argh
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18:02 cmo_ maybe i want to post this at and hope :\
18:07 cmo_ the... mailing list? is this what i want?
18:07 cmo_ hmm ok
18:11 ashimema @later tell fridolin one last backport needed for 17.05 I think mate. Bug 21226
18:11 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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18:34 magnuse looks like we have a bug in koha-create when used with the DEFAULTSQL setting
18:35 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "koha-create error" (5 lines) at
18:35 magnuse the database is created, tables are created, sysprefs are in place
18:35 magnuse but test.conf is only in sites-available, not in sites-enabled
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18:40 magnuse actually, its koha-upgrade-schema throwing the error
18:46 magnuse restarting memcached seems to solve it
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19:15 cmo_ omg lol
19:15 cmo_ magnuse: restarting memcached also fixed my catalog
19:15 cmo_ i forgot all about memcached
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19:16 cmo_ i'm so happy
19:19 caroline cmo_: congrats!
19:20 caroline should've thought of cache, source of so many problems
19:22 cmo_ yeah... i wonder if i can configure memcached to work better? i worry now that it will not update in general unless it is restarted after changes
19:22 cmo_ i could just script it to restart but i feel there must be a better way
19:32 cait cmo_: congrats :)
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19:47 rangi morning
19:47 bag morning rangi
19:49 caroline Good morning rangi!
19:55 cait morning rangi
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20:03 ashimema Morning rangi
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22:00 caroline bye #koha!
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22:17 Margaret Have a great evening #koha
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