IRC log for #koha, 2018-07-25

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06:09 fridolin hi there
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06:29 reiveune hello
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06:50 alex_a bonjour
06:53 cait bonjour alex_a, good morning #koha
06:53 alex_a salut cait
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07:49 cait hi gaetan_B
07:49 rangi evening
07:49 cait how long now?
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09:54 gveranis hi all can anyone help with Shibboleth and Koha /
09:55 gveranis ?
09:56 gveranis I follow the guidelines as described here : https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eth_Configuration and Shibboleth metadata cannot appear on https://mydomain/Shibboleth.sso/Metadata
09:56 gveranis I need to change my koha installation from http to https ? to work with Shibboleth ?
10:23 cait gveranis: are you running plack?
10:23 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #72: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/72/
10:23 jenkins * fridolin.somers: Bug 17373: Elasticsearch - Authority mappings for UNIMARC - patch1
10:23 jenkins * alex.arnaud: Bug 17373: Add mappings for unimarc authorities - Match index
10:23 jenkins * alex.arnaud: Bug 19873: Ability to search on 0 value
10:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17373 normal, P5 - low, ---, claire.hernandez, RESOLVED FIXED, Elasticsearch - Authority mappings for UNIMARC
10:23 jenkins * alex.arnaud: Bug 19873: Add unit tests
10:23 jenkins * julian.maurice: Bug 19873: (QA follow-up) Prevent warnings
10:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19873 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , Make it possible to search on value 0
10:23 gveranis cait : no
10:24 cait ok, because Shibboleth doesn't work with Plack
10:24 cait apat from that, I probably can't help :(
10:24 gveranis yes I have read it
10:24 gveranis ok thanks
10:24 cait ashimema maybe
10:25 gveranis ok I would have it on my mind to ask ashimema
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10:50 kidclamp gveranis: you must use https with shibboleth
10:50 gveranis so my koha should run under ssl
10:50 kidclamp yes
10:50 gveranis ok thanks
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10:55 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #73: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/73/
10:55 jenkins alex.arnaud: Bug 21046: Return the correct borrowernumber when there is empty
10:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21046 critical, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI - AuthenticatePatron returns a wrong borrowernumber if cardnumber is empty
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11:13 cait @later tell tcohen ping!
11:13 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
11:16 fridolin gveranis: for Shobboleth and Plack , see 17776:
11:16 fridolin Bug 17776
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11:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17776 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack
11:16 fridolin we use it for several instances
11:17 gveranis ok I will check it also
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11:30 oleonard hI ALL
11:30 * oleonard un-caps
11:35 cait fridolin: hey frido, are you planning a 17.11 release for this week?
11:38 fridolin cait: yes i try for tomorrow
11:38 cait ok
11:38 cait then i can update our branch before my vacation next week :)
11:38 fridolin tehre is still a few bugs to backport
11:38 fridolin cool, it will be v17.11.08
11:38 fridolin very stable i hope ;)
11:39 fridolin jenkins is happy for nos
11:39 fridolin now
11:39 cait we'vemostly run into some issues with the label module recently
11:39 cait but i think those are old bugs
11:39 cait otherwise it seems ok :)
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12:22 dersmon hey! i have set "USE_MEMCACHED=no", but on startup i get "Connection to the memcached servers '' failed. Are the unix socket permissions set properly? Is the host reachable?"
12:23 dersmon i feel like that did not happen before, did something change in 18.05?
12:29 gveranis cait and fridolin : thanks for your help , the problem on my case was on self signed ssl on apache. Also on documentation is needed to changed as described the procedure on bug 8446 by Martin at 2013-10-20 . Has some differences than the documentation on wiki
12:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8446 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, Shibboleth authentication
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12:41 caroline Hello!
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12:50 tcohen morning!
12:51 tcohen hi cait
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13:12 tcohen hola Joubu
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13:12 Joubu o/
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13:19 Joubu I am hitting bug 21087 10 times a day, how do you all do without it?
13:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21087 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Patron's password is hashed twice when the object is saved
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13:39 tuxayo Hi: if someone wants to list SRU servers configs, it can be done on this page: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]igure_SRU_targets
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14:01 oleonard What if suggestion forms were based on a special MARC framework, and submissions were stored in the reservoir?
14:06 * oleonard can't believe saying something out loud doesn't make it happen instantly
14:10 cait i like the idea :)
14:10 cait it would also make it easier i guess to deal with duplicates? potentially...
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14:49 Joubu 2073   `librarian` varchar(100) default '', -- the librarian's username from borrowers.userid
14:50 Joubu from kohastructure, subscription.librarian
14:50 Joubu what does it mean?
14:53 Joubu username is firstname + surname, not userid
15:09 cait test it ? :)
15:09 cait i think it's the userid
15:09 cait it's the only table that doesn't have borrowernumber but some name istead... i wrote a bug about that ages ago
15:10 reiveune bye
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15:12 Joubu cait: bug 13542
15:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13542 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Subscripton is only table to store userid instead of borrowernumber
15:12 cait ah yep
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15:46 Freddy_Enrique Hi everyone :)
15:46 Freddy_Enrique anyone here?
15:47 caroline Hi Freddy_Enrique !
15:47 * cait waves
15:48 Freddy_Enrique Was getting worried, yesterday I was here and the silence got me scared. Glad to hear from you
15:48 caroline heh heh! I'm guessing a lot of ppl are on vacation
15:48 cait it depends on the time of day
15:49 cait and the number of meetings...
15:49 Freddy_Enrique I see
15:50 Freddy_Enrique I meant to ask something.... Does Koha have a config file to determine how many people can see the OPAC?
15:51 Freddy_Enrique There are moment when it takes a couple of second to get a result
15:51 Freddy_Enrique moments*
15:51 cait there is no limit no
15:51 cait for sessions or similar
15:52 cait I think more people = slower, but Koha itself has no problems with it
15:52 cait sometimes opacs get hammered by search bots... ignoring robots.txt... but that's more a sysadmin thing to fix I think
15:53 Freddy_Enrique Oh... and what if, for example. I have a number of people working on the catalog module and in the same time a lot of users making queries to the OPAC?
15:53 Freddy_Enrique Koha can handle that right?
15:54 Freddy_Enrique So far... I see good results in both sides. But what if the number of people increases
15:55 tuxayo hi :) Does someone from the QA team plan to check bug 15395 out?
15:55 tuxayo Is there a way to begin QAing a bug without feeling compelled to do the full QA work on it?
15:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more
15:55 tuxayo Because it seems that bug 15395 is huge and scary ^^'
15:56 cait tuxayo: that's part of the problem i guess
15:56 cait i didn't have time recently to spend 2 hours with a working brain on something
15:56 cait :(
15:57 cait Freddy_Enrique: koha shoudl be able to handle that, depends maybe a bit on your server specifications how much load it will be able to take
15:57 Freddy_Enrique Thanks cait :)
15:58 tuxayo cait: thanks, that gives an idea of how big that thing is O_o
15:59 cait the other thing is
15:59 cait we usually handle bugs before enh
15:59 cait so people focus there first, especially after a big new release that needs some bad bugs fixed
16:01 tuxayo cait: many translation bugs would be solved by that one ;)
16:02 cait as a result probably
16:02 cait i think it might not be testable with a sample file changed over
16:02 cait or at least that would help
16:04 tuxayo cait: «i think it might not be testable with a sample file changed over»
16:04 tuxayo I don't get it, sorry.
16:06 cait a working example file
16:06 cait for this to take effec tI think you need to change the templates
16:08 Joubu tuxayo: it's on my list, I need time to get back to it
16:08 oleonard From what I can tell 15395 has internationalization happening in real time via JavaScript?
16:09 oleonard Is that correct? If so that seems problematic.
16:16 tuxayo oleonard: I don't think so, jajm  can you confirm?
16:18 cait my impression was also that it would work via po... but i might be mistaken
16:18 cait Joubu: it used to be displayed - on the subscription detail page first tab
16:19 cait for the userid in subscriptions
16:22 tuxayo Joubu: Thanks :)
16:22 tuxayo cait: yes, i'm sure that it still works via po. cc oleonard
16:23 oleonard Speaking as a tester, I wish all the patches on 15395 were squashed with a single test plan
16:24 tuxayo cait: I think there is an example there: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]73909&action=edit
16:27 tuxayo oleonard: wouldn't the test plan be to huge and scare testers? At least there it can be tested partially.
16:27 tuxayo And the trade off of a single patch might be making life hard for QA.
16:27 oleonard Maybe it's just a personal preference. I hate sifting through dozens of bug comments looking for little test plans.
16:29 cait oleonard: good point
16:30 cait i think that's one of my problems too, lots to read and not sure what is still valid
16:42 cait time to go home, bye all
16:43 Freddy_Enrique Now that you mention it, Bye cait :). Take care
16:43 tuxayo bye!
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16:43 Freddy_Enrique me too
16:43 Freddy_Enrique bye all
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20:11 cait should we have a dev meeting right onw?
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20:12 cait please speak up if here for the meeting :)
20:13 caroline which meeting is it?
20:13 caroline ah sorry, just saw your previous message
20:14 rangi meeting?
20:14 wahanui it has been said that meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then
20:14 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_25_July_2018
20:14 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_25_July_2018
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20:16 cait hm counting 3 of us, that's not quite enough i think?
20:16 rangi not really
20:21 * thd has been here for the meeting
20:22 * caroline tried to rope in blou for the meeting but think she was too subtle
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20:51 caroline Is there a way to exclude a doc type from advance notices? (i.e. send advance notices for all doc types except that one)
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20:52 cait i don't think you can
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20:53 caroline :/
21:08 rangi caroline: are you attending kohacon?
21:08 caroline rangi: I asked my boss but he hasn't answered me yet...
21:09 rangi want me to send him a letter? hehe
21:09 rangi "As one of the original developers, I think it is very important Caroline attend"
21:09 caroline yay! I'd really like to go and meet you all in person
21:09 * cait too
21:09 cait well, meet you :)
21:10 cait @seen LeeJ
21:10 huginn cait: LeeJ was last seen in #koha 2 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <LeeJ> tcohen: around?
21:11 wizzyrea hi
21:11 wahanui que tal, wizzyrea
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21:30 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 25 July 2018
21:30 huginn Meeting started Wed Jul 25 21:30:30 2018 UTC.  The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at
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21:30 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 25 July 2018)
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21:30 Joubu #info Next meeting: 8 August 2018, 14 UTC
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21:30 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
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21:48 caroline Bye all!
22:00 tcohen hi
22:00 wahanui privet, tcohen
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23:13 uuu print receipt from the opac
23:14 wizzyrea not a feature
23:32 Joubu lol
23:32 Joubu "thanks!"
23:32 Joubu bye #koha
23:33 rangi hehe
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