IRC log for #koha, 2018-07-24

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01:47 tcohen hi
01:47 wahanui bidet, tcohen
01:49 wizzyrea hi
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04:43 Oak Guys, new Koha installation I did. Things have changed... w.r.t. Zebra? There is an indexer and there is a commented line in cron.d (old style). Zebra keeps stopping daily.
04:44 Oak Logs (zebra-error) have a message like "20180724 07:35:23 brightstar-koha-zebra: client (pid 3043) killed by signal 15, stopping"
04:49 Oak Server is a VM on cloud.
05:20 kivilahtio Oak: a lot of things have changed :D
05:21 kivilahtio Oak: are you doing the now unsupported dev install or using Debian-packages?
05:21 kivilahtio Oak: Or using the Ansible-Koha-Dev ?
05:21 kivilahtio
05:21 Oak Debian package :0
05:22 kivilahtio Oak: what does w.r.t mean?
05:22 Oak with respect to
05:22 kivilahtio ok, thanks
05:25 kivilahtio Oak: migration_tools/ -b -a
05:25 kivilahtio seems to work for us
05:25 kivilahtio Oak: 17.05
05:26 kivilahtio Oak: on the hindsight you are prolly speaking of the newest Koha-version...
05:27 kivilahtio Oak: is it restarting or actually dying and not servicing?
05:27 Oak Just dying randomly
05:28 kivilahtio Oak:[…]ignal-15-received
05:29 kivilahtio Oak: I don't think I can help you with this problem. We have never experienced anything liek that
05:29 kivilahtio It could be that some Koha maintenance command tries to restart it every day. For ex from cron.d
05:29 kivilahtio or cron.daily
05:30 kivilahtio but that is really a hipshot
05:32 kivilahtio If your problem appears daily, cron.daily doesn't havea guaranteed time to run, except that it runs daily, if the server is on.
05:32 kivilahtio Oak: but it should be predictable, if your server is on 24/7
05:32 Oak Cool, thanks kivilahtio. I'm searching as well.
05:37 kivilahtio Oak: these signals are really difficult matters to debug.
05:37 kivilahtio Oak: One appraoch is to try to intercepts which pid is sending the kill-signal
05:37 kivilahtio[…]-sent-me-a-signal
05:38 Oak That's a really good tip actually
05:38 Oak :)
05:38 kivilahtio Oak: but that approach is packed with caveats
05:38 kivilahtio Oak: like the process sending the kill -15 might be gone when you try to figure out more info
05:43 kivilahtio Is there any WIP on Authorities with ElasticSearch
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05:54 kivilahtio looks like some. https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19365
05:54 huginn Bug 19365: major, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, ASSIGNED , doesn't work with Elasticsearch
06:26 * magnuse waves
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06:38 reiveune hello
06:38 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
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06:47 alex_a bonjour
06:47 wahanui hola, alex_a
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07:28 gaetan_B hello
07:37 gaetan_B your irc passwords might have been compromised
07:38 gaetan_B i have received an extorsion email that mentions my irc password (which is weak and only used on irc since the protocol cannot be trusted)
07:38 gaetan_B time to change your passwords ;)
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07:58 cait good morning #koha
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08:17 dersmon hi everyone
08:18 dersmon i got disconnected yesterday, so sorry if for asking the same question again: is there a documentation on setting up koha+elasticsearch when installing from github? i only found the devbox and the instructions for configuring an package-installation of koha
08:19 dersmon and i got another one: how would you go about linking titles using 773 subfield 0 automatically? based for example on the linked item's title
08:36 cait dersmon: i think there is no script to do the linking right now
08:36 cait is this for easyanalytics?
08:37 cait for elasticsearch... i'd refer to the wiki or ask a bit later, when more people are around working actively on elasticsearch
08:40 eythian cait: can you folks please stop drinking from the Rijn. We're running out of water over here!
08:47 cait but... it's so hot here!
08:52 dersmon the linking is just for making it more explicte, otherwise the interface just searches for the linked items title
08:52 cait i think different fields can be used for linking
08:52 cait we use $w --> $0
08:52 cait sorry
08:53 cait 773$w --> 001 (parent)
08:53 cait i'd catalog a test title first to be sure it works like you want
08:53 cait $0 is usually only used for authority linking, not between records, but there might be a koha feature there i am not aware of
08:55 dersmon ok
08:56 dersmon when using 773$w, the link is still realised by searching the title in $a
08:56 cait ah, you would need to turn on UseControlnumber
08:56 cait systempreference
08:56 wahanui systempreference is set to match the way it was in 3.6.
08:57 cait but it only works if you are not using EeasyAnalytics... so some decision to make
08:57 cait i am not sure, but it hink EasyAnalytics might use $9
08:57 cait @marc 773$0
08:57 huginn cait: unknown tag 773$0
08:57 cait @marc 773 9
08:57 huginn cait: unknown field/subfield combination (773/9)
08:58 cait @marc 773 0
08:58 huginn cait: unknown field/subfield combination (773/0)
08:58 cait $0 §9 are both non-standard, so maybe used by Easyanalytics
09:03 eythian cait: it's hot enough here that 12 bridges can't be opened to let boats through as the expansion has locked them shut.
09:05 dersmon the systempreference did the trick, thanks
09:07 cait eythian: ouch
09:08 cait eythian: we really need some rain here, where i was this weeekend it rained a lot... but almost none here
09:10 dersmon where are you eythian?
09:10 eythian cait: yeah, we're hitting drought. Which for a waterlogged country is quite something.
09:10 eythian dersmon: Amsterdam
09:10 wahanui well, Amsterdam is nice.
09:10 eythian wahanui: it's true
09:10 wahanui I saw it on Digg!
09:11 eythian no wahanui, it's true is <reply>\I read it in a book!
09:11 * eythian glares at wahanui
09:11 eythian wahanui: it's true is <reply>\I read it in a book!
09:11 wahanui ...but it's true is <reply>I read it on the internet!|<reply>I saw it on Digg!...
09:11 eythian no wahanui: it's true is <reply>\I read it in a book!
09:11 eythian hmm
09:11 eythian weird
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10:05 magnuse gah! why is a search like /cgi-bin/koha/​=historie&limit=branch%3A11225 showing items from more than the selected branch? i have it working on another instance...
10:06 cait how are you limiting to the branch?
10:07 cait I think if you only want to see this branches you need more config
10:07 cait i am not sure it's possible even?
10:07 cait I guess there are items of the branch you limited to and anothers?
10:13 magnuse trying to set up multiple opacs for one instance. <input name="limit" value="branch:11225" type="hidden"> is added to the simple search form
10:14 magnuse hm, yeah, maybe the other instance has no overlap between the collections
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11:14 cait magnuse: not sure if it's possible
11:15 cait magnuse: hm an idea, not sue if it would work: overwrite the opachidden system preference
11:15 cait hiding the items from the branch
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11:30 magnuse cait: ooh, that might work!
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12:06 Joubu @later tell Oak about the daily stop of zebra: disable anacron
12:06 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:06 magnuse cait++ for being a genious!
12:07 kohaputti What's the procedure of fixing bugs in[…]/v1/swagger/paths ? Can I just edit them directly and send a patch or is there some program I need to run to make the changes.
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12:07 kohaputti like do I need to run some formatter or minifier before submitting the patch
12:08 Joubu kohaputti: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Getting_involved
12:09 Joubu from this page you should find whatever you want
12:09 kohaputti I searched the wiki for openapi validation but not many results
12:09 Joubu sorry, wrong answer. You wanted something more specific :)
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12:11 kohaputti https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Rest_Api_HowTo – the step 6 on that page could have maybe more information about this
12:12 kohaputti or step 3.
12:12 Joubu[…] ?
12:14 kidclamp Joubu - did you figure out what was giving you troubles on scss?
12:14 kohaputti I could probably infer the formatting rules from that
12:14 Joubu kidclamp: there was a bug in the patch, oleonard fixed it
12:15 Joubu kohaputti: tcohen is the one to ask for
12:15 kohaputti Joubu, btw, I used to use the nick "Putti" before so you might remember me from ~2 years ago from this channel.
12:15 kohaputti Joubu, and thanks for the tips
12:15 kidclamp excellent! one question oleonard - the patches gave me a warning about graident syntax, but file name and line numbers were wrong
12:16 oleonard kidclamp: That is a mystery to me.
12:17 kidclamp remove the 'to' from in front of a gradient definition and you should be able to recreate - I don't think it is blocker, seems to be something in autoprefix but I don't know what
12:19 oleonard kidclamp: I mean to say: I get that too and it has been a mystery to me since forever.
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12:39 cait magnuse: now you got to document that somewhere ;)
12:39 magnuse hehe, guess i do
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13:19 caroline Hello all!
13:19 wahanui Hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term
13:19 caroline Oh, I'd forgotten about that
13:19 oleonard wahanui: forget Hello all!
13:19 wahanui oleonard, I didn't have anything matching hello all
13:19 oleonard I had a feeling you'd say that wahanui
13:19 oleonard Hi caroline
13:20 caroline Hi oleonard !
13:43 tcohen hola kohaputti
13:44 kohaputti tcohen, hey
13:46 kohaputti tcohen, do you have some tool to format those openapi files? If not, maybe it would be good idea to have one.
13:48 tcohen jq
13:48 tcohen you mean a UI for inspecting the API?
13:49 kohaputti no, but for getting the whitespace right
13:49 kohaputti like if everybody uses a tool of their liking we end up with all the files being formatted in a different way
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14:14 tcohen kohaputti: if you have something in mind, just let me know
14:15 tcohen I basically start with koha_schema_to_openapi
14:15 tcohen then adjust it
14:15 tcohen koha_schema_to_api uses jq for formatting
14:15 kohaputti I don't have anything mind yet, but as I start developing koha again maybe I will find some tools. I will let you know then. And thanks for telling your process!
14:20 dersmon is there a depedency list on what i need installed for using elastic search? i am not installing koha as a package, instead i'm building everything based on a git clone
14:27 oleonard Koha interface blast from the past:[…]management-system
14:29 caroline oh boy! So colourful, it reminds me of OPALS
14:31 oleonard[…]apturas/498-0.jpg
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15:23 reiveune bye
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15:31 Nemo_bis moi kohaputti :)
15:33 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20287: (RM follow-up) Restore use C4::Members <[…]4035533a39f07cbab>
15:46 caroline Anybody doing translation is here right now?
15:54 cait caroline: kind of here
15:54 cait what's the question?
15:54 wahanui the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
15:55 caroline Hi cait! I was wondering in pref.po, what do I do with something like "acquisitions.pref#AcqCreateItem# This is only the default behavior, and can be changed per-basket." Do I leave acquisitions.pref#AcqCreateItem# ?
15:56 cait no
15:56 cait the pref po is a bit different than the others
15:56 cait for the translation, you cut off the part in the front
15:56 cait and start with This is...
15:56 cait they are generated to keep them sorted
15:56 cait usually the po files are alphabetic which would make it hard to translate the sentences, to the prefix helps you see whch pref and all the *parts* are together
15:57 caroline ah ok! So if it's just "acquisitions.pref" I write nothing?
15:57 cait i think so
15:57 cait it's been a while :)
15:57 cait but yes, that would be the pattern I think
15:57 caroline Ok thank you!
16:00 jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #14: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/14/
16:03 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #514: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/514/
16:11 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #15: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/15/
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22:04 caroline Good night everyone!
22:05 rangi ooh i notice the tentative schedule is up
22:06 rangi https://kohacon2018.bywatersol[…]com/schedule.html
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